Matt Macey

[Magpie]

Thought he looked really comfortable today. Would have worked at a high standard with Arsenal, hopefully he puts in a shift to make the position his own over the coming weeks. 👍🏻

[Vault Boy]

Very good debut from the guy. Well done.

[HendoDelivered]

Looks decent. Few dodgy kick outs though!

[Bangkok Hibby]

Looks decent. Few dodgy kick outs though!

Nothing we aren't used to from Rocky

[skyehibee]

Looks class and commanding

[BILLYHIBS]

Took up a dodgy position for the free kick

Turnbull said as much post match

Apart from that did fine

:cb

[Lancs Harp]

Thought he made a very good debut. Not much to do in the second half but made some good saves towards the end of the first half. Thought his distribution was fair.

[sleeping giant]

Took up a dodgy position for the free kick

Turnbull said as much post match

Apart from that did fine

:cb

Yip.
Said it at the time .

[BILLYHIBS]

Yip.
Said it at the time .
:agree:

Said it to my laddie top left hand corner goalies right

Dearie me!

Good strike but never a foul if you watch the replay

[Shrekko]

Took up a dodgy position for the free kick

Turnbull said as much post match

Apart from that did fine

:cb

Turnbull didn’t actually say that - just that he fancied himself to do what he did when he saw the way everything was set up.

At any time - if a player can get it up and over the wall there’s very little you can do.

[Hermit Crab]

Gloves are his to lose as far as I'm concerned, what a difference it makes having a keeper who commands his box and comes for crosses. One or two iffy kick outs but the pitch wasn't exactly great, blameless for the goal as it was a brilliant free kick. Have we finally found a reliable keeper? Lets see how he does v Killy on Saturday. :aok:

[kaimendhibs]

Looks more than decent on that showing. Mibbe gave Turnbull too much to aim at but wouldnt know the laddies ability

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[Hermit Crab]

Took up a dodgy position for the free kick

Turnbull said as much post match

Apart from that did fine

:cb


Tom Kite. It was pin point free kick. 2 keepers wouldn't have saved that.

[04Sauzee]

Took up a dodgy position for the free kick

Turnbull said as much post match

Apart from that did fine

:cb
Only Turnbull didn't say that and his positioning was fine,just done by a great frre kick

[lord bunberry]

Gloves are his to lose as far as I'm concerned, what a difference it makes having a keeper who commands his box and comes for crosses. One or two iffy kick outs but the pitch wasn't exactly great, blameless for the goal as it was a brilliant free kick. Have we finally found a reliable keeper? Lets see how he does v Killy on Saturday. :aok:
We’ve had a reliable keeper for years and he’ll be back in goals when he’s fit. Macey played well tonight and will be a decent backup.

[BILLYHIBS]

Only Turnbull didn't say that and his positioning was fine,just done by a great frre kick
“ When I saw the position the goalkeeper took up”

[The Modfather]

Only one game but looked good tonight.

[BILLYHIBS]

Tom Kite. It was pin point free kick. 2 keepers wouldn't have saved that.
Please read my post an excellent strike but the keeper did himself no favours by adopting a central left position

Turnbull said it himself the keeper made up his mind

[Shrekko]

“ When I saw the position the goalkeeper took up”

A goalie is meant to cover the side of the goals the wall isn’t protecting. He’s just saying he knew he’d have to get it to that side.

It’s always ‘looks’ easy before a free kick actually happens but how often do players do what Turnbull did?

[HibeeHibernian4]

Dodgy kick out directly led to the free kick for their goal. Apart from that he was good.

[calumhibee1]

Done quite well. Still want to see Rocky back in when he’s fit but he doesn’t look bad at all.

[Hermit Crab]

We’ve had a reliable keeper for years and he’ll be back in goals when he’s fit. Macey played well tonight and will be a decent backup.


You think so?

[Lancs Harp]

Please read my post an excellent strike but the keeper did himself no favours by adopting a central left position

Turnbull said it himself the keeper made up his mind


I always thought that was where a keeper was supposed to start from. The wall covers one side, keeper covers the other side. That was what i was always taught. Anything that goes over the wall with enough dip on it always has the keeper scrambling.

[Stuart93]

He was good. More than able and couple decent saves.

Couple dodgy kick outs but that was about it. Don’t think he could’ve done much with the freekick

[Ozyhibby]

Gave away the ball for the goal but ok apart from that.


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[04Sauzee]

“ When I saw the position the goalkeeper took up”

Yip that's what he said. Still zero wrong with how he set uo the wall or how hw was positioned. Zeeo blame.

[Since452]

Well done the big man

[BILLYHIBS]

Turnbull didn’t actually say that - just that he fancied himself to do what he did when he saw the way everything was set up.

At any time - if a player can get it up and over the wall there’s very little you can do.

Oh yes he did!

” I won it at the edge of the box I just grabbed the ball I seen where the goalkeeper positioned himself I thought I could do it “

David Turnbull

:cb

[lord bunberry]

You think so?
Definitely.

[BILLYHIBS]

Yip that's what he said. Still zero wrong with how he set uo the wall or how hw was positioned. Zeeo blame.
Whatever?

[Ardenttwo]

:agree:

Said it to my laddie top left hand corner goalies right

Dearie me!

Good strike but never a foul if you watch the replay

Just said to wife that there is a big gap at goalies right.

[CMac1988]

Thought he had a really good game. Thought his positioning at the free kick could've been better which Turnbull all but confirmed. Whether or not he'd have got to to it anyway is another story but on the whole a solid start.

[speedy_gonzales]

Dodgy kick out directly led to the free kick for their goal. Apart from that he was good.


Gave away the ball for the goal but ok apart from that.



Yup, took the saves he had to make, well. Couple of poor kick outs towards the end of the first half and then that rushed kick after the short pass back which led to the foul which led to the goal.
Fine margins they say, but a good opener for him in a Hibs top.

[ACLeith]

:agree:

Said it to my laddie top left hand corner goalies right

Dearie me!

Good strike but never a foul if you watch the replay

But if he'd stood more behind the wall the other half of the goal would have been gaping. Has to ask the wall to cover one side and he takes the other. Superb kick from a promising Scottish talent. I also reckoned Turnbull was putting it where he did but can't see what anyone could have done about it.

But I agree it was never a foul; McGinn didn't get the ball but if you watch it back Turnbull is diving before any contact. But they were at that all night, especially McGregor.

Overall a good start to his Hibs career, a couple of bad clearances was the only down side

[BILLYHIBS]

I always thought that was where a keeper was supposed to start from. The wall covers one side, keeper covers the other side. That was what i was always taught. Anything that goes over the wall with enough dip on it always has the keeper scrambling.
I don’t think I was alone in knowing where the ball was going and so did David Turnbull but anyway happy with a point

Onwards and upwards

[Hiber-nation]

“ When I saw the position the goalkeeper took up”

And if he'd taken up a different position McGregor would have probably put it in the other corner. Not a goalkeeping error in a million years.

[BILLYHIBS]

Just said to wife that there is a big gap at goalies right.
:aok:

[weecounty hibby]

Why would the keeper stand behind the wall that he has set up to protect that side of the goal? It was a great free kick and sometimes folk just look for criticism or blame when sometimes you just have to accept that it was a great price of skill from Turnbull

[Stuart93]

If you think it’s the goalies fault you have no idea about how keepers set up their wall.

If we watch again the goalie was near enough in the middle of his goal maybe just a bit to his left hand side then they trust their wall to cover the rest.

The freekick was so well hit & got it up and down. Can’t be blaming the goalie

[BILLYHIBS]

If you think it’s the goalies fault you have no idea about how keepers set up their wall.

If we watch again the goalie was near enough in the middle of his goal maybe just a bit to his left hand side then they trust their wall to cover the rest.

The freekick was so well hit & got it up and down. Can’t be blaming the goalie
If you listen to what Turnbull said -see my post - that made up his mind

Some strike though maybe the wall didn’t do it’s job?

[Shrekko]

Oh yes he did!

” I won it at the edge of the box I just grabbed the ball I seen where the goalkeeper positioned himself I thought I could do it “

David Turnbull

:cb

The fact he had to strike the ball as perfectly as he did tells me there was nothing wrong with the wall or goalies positioning. Turnbull is only saying he fancied himself to get it over the wall.

Macey had a really good game. Made a couple of very difficult saves look easy and looked far stronger than Rocky sometimes does at crosses. Good hands on everything.

[Pretty Boy]

No chance with the free kick. Turnbulls got it up and down over the wall with a bit of pace on the ball. It's a great save if he keeps that out. If he stood directly behind the wall and the FK went in the other corner then I'd be fuming.

Looked confident and commanding. A more than decent debut.

[Andy74]

If you listen to what Turnbull said -see my post - that made up his mind

Some strike though maybe the wall didn’t do it’s job?

Think Nisbet and Hanlon could have done a bit better. Just seen it the once but looked like they parted and turned their backs a bit.

[BILLYHIBS]

The fact he had to strike the ball as perfectly as he did tells me there was nothing wrong with the wall or goalies positioning. Turnbull is only saying he fancied himself to get it over the wall.

Macey had a really good game. Made a couple of very difficult saves look easy and looked far stronger than Rocky sometimes does at crosses. Good hands on everything.
Agree apart from the huge gap to his right ��

[Stevie Reid]

Looked assured, not at fault for the goal at all.

Couple of dodgy kicks but it happens, especially in conditions like those tonight. Kicking ain’t exactly Rocky’s strong point in any case.

[ACLeith]

Differing opinions eh? Maybe those of us who were goalkeepers think one thing (the goalkeepers' "union") and those who didn't have the "honour" of playing in that position think different.

[Irish_Steve]

Zibi would have caught it......

[SaulGoodman]

If you listen to what Turnbull said -see my post - that made up his mind

Some strike though maybe the wall didn’t do it’s job?

Why are we looking for someone to blame? It was a cracking free kick.

[Lancs Harp]

Zibi would have caught it......

John Burridge would have cleared it hanging off the crossbar.

[Sammy7nil]

Keeper did fine decent debut and imho not at fault for the goal

[BILLYHIBS]

Why are we looking for someone to blame? It was a cracking free kick.

Read my first post

I said he did fine apart from his positioning at the free kick

These folk that read half a thread 😃

[Ronniekirk]

On that performance an upgrade on Barnes Atrocious conditions
Would like to see him given a few games now to see how consistent he is


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[Carheenlea]

Agree with the sentiment that you can`t lay much blame at his door for the goal. It was a proper postage stamp job and you can only praise Turnbull for his execution of the free kick.

A good, solid debut and looks comfortable and to have settled quickly.

[Lancs Harp]

How tall is he? Looked massive.

[Stuart93]

How tall is he? Looked massive.

6’5 or 6’7 I’m sure

[Stevie Reid]

How tall is he? Looked massive.

6’ 6” I think.

[BILLYHIBS]

6’ 6” I think.

6’7”

[cabbageandribs1875]

How tall is he? Looked massive.


6ft 7"


7ft at weekends in his heels

[Scooter]

Felt 10x more comfortable than I've had watching Barnes in goal.
Did anyone hear him shouting to Porto when sorting the wall 🤣 "no.5, ni.5" you forget hes only been here 2days and doesnt know anyones names

[Eyrie]

There's a big difference between Turnbull looking at the keeper and realising where he has to try to put the ball, and actually executing it with the wall in the way. Had Macey been more to his right, he'd have been partly unsighted by the wall and the left of our goal would've been unguarded. I've no issue with his positioning and instead acknowledge that Turnbull did extremely well.


PS: Andy Goram would have taken both sides of the goal himself.

[GreenCastle]

You could argue we put players on the line.

If you see how teams stop Messi these days. Walls like that tonight are nearly dated as a half decent player scores more than they miss.

Pretty solid debut in difficult conditions- didn’t look like the occasion got to him.

Worried about him palming the ball out - gets it wrong and opposition get a tap in.

[Diclonius]

Solid.

[BILLYHIBS]

There's a big difference between Turnbull looking at the keeper and realising where he has to try to put the ball, and actually executing it with the wall in the way. Had Macey been more to his right, he'd have been partly unsighted by the wall and the left of our goal would've been unguarded. I've no issue with his positioning and instead acknowledge that Turnbull did extremely well.

PS: Andy Goram would have taken both sides of the goal himself.

Yeah! But I watch Serie A and it happens every other game

At our level you have to expect he might get it over the wall especially leaving such a big gap

Everyone else expected it 😂

[easty]

If you see how teams stop Messi these days. Walls like that tonight are nearly dated as a half decent player scores more than they miss.

60% of things are made up 5/8 of the time.

[hibbysam]

Yeah! But I watch Serie A and it happens every other game

At our level you have to expect he might get it over the wall especially leaving such a big gap

Everyone else expected it 😂

Stop digging. As a keeper his position was spot on. He’s not expected to save one in the postage stamp at the wall side, literally the only place Turnbull scores. If he moves a yard over then he can’t see the ball, and Turnbull can go the opposite side.

The biggest issue for me is Duffy in the wall. He should’ve been fouled against for being within 2m of our wall.

[BILLYHIBS]

Stop digging. As a keeper his position was spot on. He’s not expected to save one in the postage stamp at the wall side, literally the only place Turnbull scores. If he moves a yard over then he can’t see the ball, and Turnbull can go the opposite side.

The biggest issue for me is Duffy in the wall. He should’ve been fouled against for being within 2m of our wall.

Not digging not my style just stating the obvious

Spotted Duffy 1m away as well

[Lancs Harp]

Not digging not my style just stating the obvious

Spotted Duffy 1m away as well

You've worked bl00dy hard on this thread Billy :greengrin

[BILLYHIBS]

You've worked bl00dy hard on this thread Billy :greengrin

Harder than any quiz or on this day in history

I don’t have any gripe with the guy just thought he was too far to his left that is all

Way past my bedtime anyway 😃

[SChibs]

You could argue we put players on the line.

If you see how teams stop Messi these days. Walls like that tonight are nearly dated as a half decent player scores more than they miss.

Pretty solid debut in difficult conditions- didn’t look like the occasion got to him.

Worried about him palming the ball out - gets it wrong and opposition get a tap in.

Complete nonsense. I'd love to see if any player wo has taken 10+ free kicks at goal even has a 20% success rate. I'm sure Ronaldo had scored 1 of his last 30 attempts at one point a few years ago.

[hibbysam]

Not digging not my style just stating the obvious

Spotted Duffy 1m away as well

The obvious is that his position was spot on for a free kick. Your asking him to stand directly behind a wall he set up, in which case he would be as well not having one at all.

[GreenCastle]

Complete nonsense. I'd love to see if any player wo has taken 10+ free kicks at goal even has a 20% success rate. I'm sure Ronaldo had scored 1 of his last 30 attempts at one point a few years ago.

Agree to disagree. Though I agree with you that Ronaldo is castle over rated with free kick goals to free kick taken ratio.

[SChibs]

Agree to disagree. Though I agree with you that Ronaldo is castle over rated with free kick goals to free kick taken ratio.

Eh? It's a factual matter so you can disagree all you want but you are still wrong. No player scores more free kicks than they miss. Ward-Prowse is regarded as the best free kick taker in the EPL just now and his conversion rate is 12.5%.

[04Sauzee]

Eh? It's a factual matter so you can disagree all you want but you are still wrong. No player scores more free kicks than they miss. Ward-Prowse is regarded as the best free kick taker in the EPL just now and his conversion rate is 12.5%.
An interesting article on free kicks from a few years back

https://www.fearthewall.com/2019/8/23/20829138/set-piece-specialists-which-players-are-the-best-in-the-world

[BILLYHIBS]

The obvious is that his position was spot on for a free kick. Your asking him to stand directly behind a wall he set up, in which case he would be as well not having one at all.

So why did everyone expect Turnbull to dink it over the wall and in ?

Just watched it again and if he is slightly more central he gives himself half a chance as he almost gets to it

As others have said some free kick and as Turnbull himself said “ when I seen where the goalkeeper positioned himself “

I’m done happy with the point

GGTTH

[hibbysam]

So why did everyone expect Turnbull to dink it over the wall and in ?

Just watched it again and if he is slightly more central he gives himself half a chance as he almost gets to it

As others have said some free kick and as Turnbull himself said “ when I seen where the goalkeeper positioned himself “

I’m done happy with the point

GGTTH

If he’s more centre he can’t see the ball due to the wall so wouldn’t even move. If he’s more central he opens up the other side of the goal, again he can’t see the ball so wouldn’t move. Turnbull said what he said as he knew he then had to beat the wall, no other option was available. He did and stuck it in the postage stamp. Maybe the keeper should’ve just stood on that post, we all knew he’d try and put it there after all.

[Percy Vere]

Took up a dodgy position for the free kick

Turnbull said as much post match

Apart from that did fine

:cb

Don’t think so. Got to stand somewhere. Basically Turnbull had to hit it almost perfect to score there, which fair play he did. Don’t think you can blame Macey. Great debut.

[MWHIBBIES]

Gloves are his to lose as far as I'm concerned, what a difference it makes having a keeper who commands his box and comes for crosses. One or two iffy kick outs but the pitch wasn't exactly great, blameless for the goal as it was a brilliant free kick. Have we finally found a reliable keeper? Lets see how he does v Killy on Saturday. :aok:
Rocky is a reliable keeper.

[Scouse Hibee]

Macey was positioned where he should have been, beaten by a great free kick with no blame on him what so ever.

[Onceinawhile]

Macey was positioned where he should have been, beaten by a great free kick with no blame on him what so ever.

I think he could have been another step towards his right, but even then, I don't think he'd have got it.

Just a really good free kick.

[Iain G]

Not digging not my style just stating the obvious

Spotted Duffy 1m away as well

Celtic players have shown they can't work out distances of 1m + as we see from their holiday snaps from Dubai and the resultant covid outbreak 😂

[BILLYHIBS]

I think he could have been another step towards his right, but even then, I don't think he'd have got it.

Just a really good free kick.
:aok:

[hibbysam]

I think he could have been another step towards his right, but even then, I don't think he'd have got it.

Just a really good free kick.

And stand right behind his wall, unable to see the ball? What use would that be out of curiosity apart from allow Turnbull to score in the other side.

[EI255]

Very good debut indeed. Looks commanding, even after one game. Might have uncovered a gem here.

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[EI255]

I think he could have been another step towards his right, but even then, I don't think he'd have got it.

Just a really good free kick.The free kick was pretty much perfect, either side would have been difficult to save. Looked at it a few times now and it's a tremendous free kick from Turnbull. The wall might have did a bit better imo but it really was a perfect free kick.

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[Onceinawhile]

And stand right behind his wall, unable to see the ball? What use would that be out of curiosity apart from allow Turnbull to score in the other side.

I've just watched it again and you're right,.a further step to the right would put him behind his wall.

It still feels like a very big gap that was left though and I just wonder if the wall should have been over a step.

Either way, no blame on the keeper. Only the ref for the bad decision to let it stand.

[hhibs]

Think Nisbet and Hanlon could have done a bit better. Just seen it the once but looked like they parted and turned their backs a bit.

No way, Nisbet was well up ,Hanlon was poor ,almost a non jump from him.

[CmoantheHibs]

Thought he had a good solid debut. We can pick holes all we want in their goal but in fairness it was just a cracking free kick. Other than having a man on the post behind the wall we weren’t saving it.

[hughio]

Thought he had a good solid debut. We can pick holes all we want in their goal but in fairness it was just a cracking free kick. Other than having a man on the post behind the wall we weren’t saving it.

:agree:

I agree with you on this Thai man.

Solid debut.

Sorry to say Rocky has been driving me crazy with his decision making.

[Anthony Soprano]

Very little he could have done for the free kick IMO, he can only cover one side of the goal and you have to hope the wall does it's job covering the other, if a player manages to get it up and over the wall and back down then you're always struggling, brilliant precise free kick from a favourable position, no fault lies with the keeper for me.

Solid debut, as others have said apart from a couple kickouts he was pretty much faultless.

[JimBHibees]

No way, Nisbet was well up ,Hanlon was poor ,almost a non jump from him.

Not sure he would have reached it anyway imo

[Brooster]

And stand right behind his wall, unable to see the ball? What use would that be out of curiosity apart from allow Turnbull to score in the other side.

Correct, as a very competent goalie yourself you are better placed than most to comment. I thought Macey had a great game, his distribution was a vast improvement on Rocky.

[The Harp]

Only saw highlights of the game, but from what I saw, thought Macey gave a solid performance. A very good addition to the squad.

[MrRobot]

Thought he played really well, making 2 really good saves. Looked solid throughout and had no chance with the goal