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Key West
10-01-2021, 07:51 AM
Which paper or internet media do you regard as being the most trustworthy?

bigwheel
10-01-2021, 07:56 AM
For me ......

Guardian , NYT, Washington Post , Independent

And the FT on a Monday ..like that too

Mon Dieu4
10-01-2021, 08:10 AM
Don't really find any news outlet completely objective, they all have their agendas imo, you have to read a few and try and decipher what you think the truth to be

Moulin Yarns
10-01-2021, 08:19 AM
You read the media that most closely match your views.

Observer and Sunday National are the only papers I buy.

Jack
10-01-2021, 08:26 AM
Private Eye.

Santa Cruz
10-01-2021, 08:29 AM
You read the media that most closely match your views.

Observer and Sunday National are the only papers I buy.

Not always. My Dad has voted Labour for nearly 60 years and he buys the Mail cos he likes the crossword, sports columns and weekend supplements.

Bostonhibby
10-01-2021, 08:49 AM
Private Eye. Don't buy newspapers anymore.


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Pretty Boy
10-01-2021, 08:50 AM
I'm wary of reading news sources that exclusively cater to my own views. The danger is you become blinkered and fail to recognise other viewpoints, often valid ones, exist. There also has to be a bit of critical analysis involved, I don't want spoon fed news, I can read an article in a right leaning publication and still pick out the key facts without necessarily being swayed by the tone of the article.

I tend to buy a hard copy of the Guardian, I subscribe to The Telegraph online, I check the BBC daily, I usually have a quick look at Al Jazeera and I buy The Economist, The Week, The Big Issue and Tribune regularly.

Glory Lurker
10-01-2021, 09:37 AM
The Holy Ground.

SHODAN
10-01-2021, 09:47 AM
Guardian/Observer, sometimes. The National is a good read but hyperpartisan.

The rest - nah. There's a reason younger people get their news elsewhere now.

Hibrandenburg
10-01-2021, 09:53 AM
I read basically all that's put in front of me. I can't remember the last time I actually bought a newspaper but it would have been the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. What I tend to do now is zap through video text (yes we still have video text) and get the gist of what news is trending then look it up online if it interests me.

When I first started learning German I used to hold my nose and read the Bild Zeitung, similar to the Sun in its political views and sensationalism and also written in language that even those with a basic ability to read can understand.

wookie70
10-01-2021, 09:58 AM
I don't subscribe or buy any papers and don't really trust any of them. I do however watch and read from all sources with the exception of The Sun. I would trust Private Eye as others have said. It is so difficult to have an informed view these days. Take the Coup this week. If I watched Fox then the President was doing a grand job. If I watched CNN then he had incited it but even their coverage seemed to show a rosier view when compared to some footage I have seen.
In the UK I do trust figures produced by ONS etc. They are my go to. eg I look at the raw data for excess deaths to try and make a judgement on how devastating the virus has been. I trust nothing politicians say in general although I always thought Corbyn was honest and only struggled when he was representing the party view where it didn't align with his. I'd trust the media more than I trust the PM and his cabinet.

WhileTheChief..
10-01-2021, 10:00 AM
Not bought an actual paper for a few years but it was probably the Scotsman or Scotland on Sunday.

Jones28
10-01-2021, 10:09 AM
The Guardian is probably my choice for no reason other than I find their coverage of COVID etc to be the most reasoned.

And they do a sex problems column which is fun.

Pretty Boy
10-01-2021, 10:25 AM
The Guardian is probably my choice for no reason other than I find their coverage of COVID etc to be the most reasoned.

And they do a sex problems column which is fun.

Reading about the wonderfully bizarre sexual kinks of middle class champagne socialists is one of the best things about buying the Guardian.

Some of the columns and questions are proper jaw droppers.

Smartie
10-01-2021, 10:36 AM
Not bought a paper for years.

I like the cross section of views you get here.

Sky is my “go to” for news on the telly although I’ve enjoyed CNN for the recent American action.

The BBC website is still somewhere I’ll frequently go. Some of their tv people have more credibility than others, some manage to remain more neutral than others.

I like linked to articles in the Guardian. I actually enjoy laughing at articles in the Mail and the Express.

I’m actually much more interested in the opinions of the people around me, whether I agree with them or not, than be force fed the opinions of media megalomaniacs.

The posters on the Holy Ground whose opinions are not necessarily the majority view are of great value imo.

Jones28
10-01-2021, 10:37 AM
Reading about the wonderfully bizarre sexual kinks of middle class champagne socialists is one of the best things about buying the Guardian.

Some of the columns and questions are proper jaw droppers.

They’re cracking, and some of the responses in the comments on Facebook are the cherry on top.

stu in nottingham
10-01-2021, 11:14 AM
I haven't bought a hard copy newpaper in probably more than twenty years. I don't particularly have trust in any newspaper.

Of late, I've become fond of reading a few articles in the irish Post.

matty_f
10-01-2021, 11:19 AM
I read The Guardian online and buy “i” but I’ll also read the BBC website, and will watch a variety of Channel 4, BBC and Sky News. I watched CNN for their coverage this week and found it clearly one sided.

Do i trust any of them? No, not really. The BBC used to be considered the benchmark for neutrality but those days appear to be long gone.

To me, it’s a very worrying state of affairs where the only viable alternative to mainstream media, which has shown itself to be agenda led and untrustworthy, is social media, which is full of content out out to manipulate people.

Best bet is to gather as many sources as you can and try and figure it out yourself, imho.


Someone mentioned the Holy Ground, and i like that as a wee balance check and opportunity to read alternative opinions, which is healthy.

marinello59
10-01-2021, 11:25 AM
I’d read any of the broadsheets. I might not agree with the opinion pieces in most of them but the facts are generally there. Despite popular opinion we still have some really fine journalists in this country.
Given it’s origins Sky News has surprisingly become, for me, the best live news channel we have. And as unfashionable as it is to say it the BBC still does a decent job most of the time.

overdrive
10-01-2021, 01:18 PM
Mainly the Guardian but I like reading anything really even if they don’t totally align with my views (although this doesn’t stretch to The National).

Thanks to whoever posted on the EEN thread about the Edinburgh Libraries access to the Press Reader app/website. I’ve been enjoying reading a variety of titles on there recently.

Colr
10-01-2021, 01:34 PM
Which paper or internet media do you regard as being the most trustworthy?

Tend to read the Guardian. It’s a bit stupid and up its arse at times on issues like London, trans issues and Owen Jones is a trumpet. It’s football overage is woeful but its arts coverage is good. And it’s free, which is the main thing.

Decades ago I used to read the Independent and Telegraph but they are less serious than the Dandy now.

There’s some interesting online stuff in Byline Times even if it does have a bit of an agenda.

I read the FT at the weekend. There’s definitely two days reading in the weekend edition.

Colr
10-01-2021, 01:37 PM
Reading about the wonderfully bizarre sexual kinks of middle class champagne socialists is one of the best things about buying the Guardian.

Some of the columns and questions are proper jaw droppers.

North London is like Sodom and Gamorrah, I can tell you - very ‘liberal’!

Coco Bryce
10-01-2021, 02:01 PM
Guardian app for me.

Pretty Boy
10-01-2021, 03:25 PM
Tend to read the Guardian. It’s a bit stupid and up its arse at times on issues like London, trans issues and Owen Jones is a trumpet. It’s football overage is woeful but its arts coverage is good. And it’s free, which is the main thing.

Decades ago I used to read the Independent and Telegraph but they are less serious than the Dandy now.

There’s some interesting online stuff in Byline Times even if it does have a bit of an agenda.

I read the FT at the weekend. There’s definitely two days reading in the weekend edition.

I still quite like a hard copy of the Sunday Times for the same reason as your last paragraph.

By the time you work through the paper, the supplements, quizzes and crosswords it's Tuesday afternoon. The fact they now spend a decent chunk of their time attacking Johnson is an added bonus.

G B Young
10-01-2021, 03:28 PM
I’d read any of the broadsheets. I might not agree with the opinion pieces in most of them but the facts are generally there. Despite popular opinion we still have some really fine journalists in this country.
Given it’s origins Sky News has surprisingly become, for me, the best live news channel we have. And as unfashionable as it is to say it the BBC still does a decent job most of the time.

Agreed. Not so sure about the BBC. Some of the stuff that qualifies as news stories on their website these days baffles me.

G B Young
10-01-2021, 03:36 PM
I'm wary of reading news sources that exclusively cater to my own views. The danger is you become blinkered and fail to recognise other viewpoints, often valid ones, exist. There also has to be a bit of critical analysis involved, I don't want spoon fed news, I can read an article in a right leaning publication and still pick out the key facts without necessarily being swayed by the tone of the article.

I tend to buy a hard copy of the Guardian, I subscribe to The Telegraph online, I check the BBC daily, I usually have a quick look at Al Jazeera and I buy The Economist, The Week, The Big Issue and Tribune regularly.

I subscribe to both online. Gives me a good balance of views, and as somebody else has pointed out there are some very good writers on both papers.

Scottish papers are, by and large, not worth the paper they're printed on these days - a major casualty of the internet age decimating their advertising budget. The Scotsman titles in particular should be put out of their misery. The only ones I'd say that still serves a purpose are the Courier and the Press and Journal with their ability to focus on local news. The National is like an alternative version of the Daily Mail for those who live and breathe Scottish independence.

Rumble de Thump
10-01-2021, 03:41 PM
Read from as wide a variety of sources as possible and question everything. I particularly like The Beano, though.

lapsedhibee
10-01-2021, 09:31 PM
Read from as wide a variety of sources as possible and question everything.
"Why?"

PeeJay
11-01-2021, 09:31 AM
Which paper or internet media do you regard as being the most trustworthy?

Living in Berlin I take the print version of German newspaper "Süddeutsche Zeitung" and I read the print version of political magazine "Der Spiegel" regularly, - I sponsor "The Guardian" online. The ICIJ site (International Consortium of Investigative Journalists) is also an excellent site for good journalism ... while I value and "trust" these sites/newspapers, I don't necessarily agree with everything I read ... but they are what I would refer to as proper old school journalists.

Süddeutsche Zeitung - Aktuelle Nachrichten, Hintergründe und Kommentare - SZ.de (sueddeutsche.de) (https://www.sueddeutsche.de/)
ICIJ - International Consortium of Investigative Journalists - ICIJ (https://www.icij.org/)
Der Spiegel - DER SPIEGEL | Online-Nachrichten (https://www.spiegel.de/)

My tv news media is now mainly the international versions of Sky News / BBC for English language versions and - to an extent CNN: if anything of import happens in the world, these are the tv media sites I go to first - Here in Germany, I value the reports presented by ARD/ZDF/ARTE, which are all extremely good at in-depth coverage of events ...

Have to also mention Hibs.Net for some truly thought provoking stuff and opinions, some of which is presented very well - and for me it is a link back home for me to "stuff" I could never pick up on over here - I also enjoy the "rubbish" posted on here at times too ... :greengrin

I don't do twitter/facebook and whatever else is out there. From what I have seen and heard of these "services", it has more negatives than positives to offer. I personally wouldn't "trust" anything posted on twitter and all the rest etc.