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spike220
09-01-2021, 11:18 AM
what is it with football players and body art? Or are they just representative of youngsters today. It seems like a large portion have tattoos or sleeves these days. Is it because they can, or just a fashion statement or linked to personal beliefs? I just notice them on so many players these days and was wondering why this is now so widespread. Is it a nod and a wink to the working class or something else? I Would be interested in some points of view on this. Perhaps it is just a modern day thing, like cell phones. We all are just so accustomed to these now!

SChibs
09-01-2021, 11:29 AM
Because they like them. That's the only reason they need.

Also tattoo sleeves are expensive. Theres plenty people out there that want a sleeve but cannot justify paying the money or afford to pay for one. Footballers are more likely to have more disposable income to pay for one.

Allant1981
09-01-2021, 11:29 AM
what is it with football players and body art? Or are they just representative of youngsters today. It seems like a large portion have tattoos or sleeves these days. Is it because they can, or just a fashion statement or linked to personal beliefs? I just notice them on so many players these days and was wondering why this is now so widespread. Is it a nod and a wink to the working class or something else? I Would be interested in some points of view on this. Perhaps it is just a modern day thing, like cell phones. We all are just so accustomed to these now!

Most people I know my age have quite a few tattoo's and I'm almost 40 so yip a youngster thing!!! I have 10 myself

BILLYHIBS
09-01-2021, 11:32 AM
Not into tattoos myself but went to a 21st a few years back pre 2016 and this young guy had the latest HIBS badge on his right arm it truly was a thing of great beauty practically perfect in every way without looking tacky :agree:

spike220
09-01-2021, 11:36 AM
Most people I know my age have quite a few tattoo's and I'm almost 40 so yip a youngster thing!!! I have 10 myself

I guess the term youngster is relative.I am thinking of footballers playing in the 70's or earlier. As an aside I really miss long sleeve football tops. I wonder if we will ever see another strip with long sleeves?

BlackSheep
09-01-2021, 11:37 AM
Body art is no new thing, but it certainly is a lot more accepted these days making it less of a life decision to adorn ones body with said art.

Some tattoos would have made your life difficult in the past that are a lot more accepted these days, such as hand tattoos... these are extremely common place these days and only a handful of professions would look down upon someone having one.

The differential between the average Joe and footballers is the financial side of things.... as the above poster said more disposable income.

I have a collection of tattoos myself and in the past 6 months have added 10 new pieces... being able to do so was largely down to not having to pay for holidays, not using my car daily to commute from Edinburgh to Glasgow among other savings... I have been fortunate enough to have what is deemed disposable income that I chose to use on adding more to my body.

erin go bragh
09-01-2021, 11:42 AM
Because they like them. That's the only reason they need.

Also tattoo sleeves are expensive. Theres plenty people out there that want a sleeve but cannot justify paying the money or afford to pay for one. Footballers are more likely to have more disposable income to pay for one.
Plenty money and plenty spare time . The detail and art work some artists do is amazing. Compared to 20 years ago .

J-C
09-01-2021, 11:52 AM
I'm 62 and have 6 tats, I'd love to finish of my Moari tat on my shoulder and do the full sleeve but can't justify the money for it right now.

spike220
09-01-2021, 12:04 PM
I'm 62 and have 6 tats, I'd love to finish of my Moari tat on my shoulder and do the full sleeve but can't justify the money for it right now.

What's the cost of a full sleeve?

erin go bragh
09-01-2021, 12:07 PM
What's the cost of a full sleeve?

Depends on each artist but the guy I use , charges £60 an hour . So I’d guess , a full sleeve by him , would cost between 3 and 4 k .

chrisski33
09-01-2021, 12:21 PM
What's the cost of a full sleeve?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MGDMQT7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_X2A-FbEEHEMKV

Fake ones on a budget 🤣

Greenbeard
09-01-2021, 12:26 PM
Body art is no new thing, but it certainly is a lot more accepted these days making it less of a life decision to adorn ones body with said art.

Some tattoos would have made your life difficult in the past that are a lot more accepted these days, such as hand tattoos... these are extremely common place these days and only a handful of professions would look down upon someone having one.

The differential between the average Joe and footballers is the financial side of things.... as the above poster said more disposable income.

I have a collection of tattoos myself and in the past 6 months have added 10 new pieces... being able to do so was largely down to not having to pay for holidays, not using my car daily to commute from Edinburgh to Glasgow among other savings... I have been fortunate enough to have what is deemed disposable income that I chose to use on adding more to my body.
But why? I just don't get it. Some say it is fashion. Some say it is art. But when fashions change and/or I grow out of my fashion choices (whether physically or in terms of what is "in"), or when I no longer like a piece of art, I can easily change it for something else, nor do I have to wear it or carry it with me everywhere i go including the pool or the beach.

Kenny1875
09-01-2021, 12:36 PM
But why? I just don't get it. Some say it is fashion. Some say it is art. But when fashions change and/or I grow out of my fashion choices (whether physically or in terms of what is "in"), or when I no longer like a piece of art, I can easily change it for something else, nor do I have to wear it or carry it with me everywhere i go including the pool or the beach.

Because he wants to

NAE NOOKIE
09-01-2021, 12:39 PM
My best pal was talking about getting a tattoo. I said to her, why don't you get a clock on yer arse, then when it starts to sag you can tell folk it's a tribute to Salvador Dali :greengrin

I like tats, but seeing as how I have the pain threshold of a 5 year old kid it's no happnin' :confused:

.Sean.
09-01-2021, 12:46 PM
What's the cost of a full sleeve?
The woman that does mine (who is brilliant) is £80 an hour. Got my left arm done and must’ve spent about 2 - 2 and a half grand. Had my right arm started too but toiling to get further appointments with covid etc

H18S NX
09-01-2021, 12:51 PM
I got 6 tatts on my arms in 1967 when i was 16,I was in the merchant navy and thought it was manly,i have regretted it every day since more so in the early days as they were regarded by some as a bit of a rogue element,people used to say "what possessed you to get these things",hindsight is a great thing right enough.

SouthMoroccoStu
09-01-2021, 12:53 PM
As I always respond, “don’t worry, my tattoos don’t like you either”

heretoday
09-01-2021, 01:07 PM
I got 6 tatts on my arms in 1967 when i was 16,I was in the merchant navy and thought it was manly,i have regretted it every day since more so in the early days as they were regarded by some as a bit of a rogue element,people used to say "what possessed you to get these things",hindsight is a great thing right enough.
It's ok if you were at sea. Almost mandatory in fact.

Jim44
09-01-2021, 01:11 PM
I’m not a tattoo person, but ‘chaque a son gout’ and all that. This thread reminded me of a time just before my 70th birthday. My son was joking on our family WhatsApp about getting me a special tattoo. I had just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and apparently he had read about somebody having invented tattoo ink which changed colour according to your blood glucose level. I jumped in and told him not to bother as I had run out of body space for another tattoo with this photo.

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DH1875
09-01-2021, 01:13 PM
I'm 40 and gave 9 tattoos. Would love to get loads more but can't justify the money. If I could afford it most my body would be tattooed.

The Baldmans Comb
09-01-2021, 01:14 PM
There was a Hibs steward that had a "Skins" tattoo on the back of his neck and "Love and Hate" on his knuckles and looked like a real hard man back in the day.

Unfortunately he is now in his late 60's and on a bus journey to Easter Road was mobbed and laughed at mercilessly by a bunch of kids on the back of a number 1 bus.

He isn't a hard man now and just sat their and took it. You cringed for him as you do for many people with tattoos that can look ridiculous on a man of a certain age.

Tattoos can be very attractive, meaningful and reflective of someone personality but people do age and it might be better if they were in a place less prominent.

CMurdoch
09-01-2021, 01:19 PM
I got 6 tatts on my arms in 1967 when i was 16,I was in the merchant navy and thought it was manly,i have regretted it every day since more so in the early days as they were regarded by some as a bit of a rogue element,people used to say "what possessed you to get these things",hindsight is a great thing right enough.

Footballers are young and young people have always sought to get noticed by setting themselves apart from their parents and the older generation.
Loads of older people are now getting tats so the young will move on to something else soon to set themselves apart again.
Until recent times the only folk that had tats were sailors and the only folk who had beards were old men and folkies
Fashions will change again and the beards will go but the tats are forever.

I find tats a really ugly thing on women but folk are entitled to do what floats their boat.
However, I would advise young folk not to get them on their face, neck or hands for obvious reasons as well as the permanence issue.
When you are a mature older adult you don't like the same things you did when you were 20 so you don't want stuck for life with something chosen by your young self. I wouldn't advice getting married young for the same reason :wink:.

DH1875
09-01-2021, 01:26 PM
Used to know a guy with a swastika tattoo right in middle of his forehead. He owned a vending machine company and would go around bars asking if you wanted them in your bar, things like Pringles and stuff. He stocked them and would collect the money every few weeks from the machines and you got half so loads of bars had them. Must have been on a fortune when I think about it as had bars from Benidorm all the way down to Benalmadena. Often wanted to ask him what he was doing with that kite on his head but never had the balls to.
Point is, despite having that on his forehead 100s of bars were dealing with him.

J-C
09-01-2021, 01:30 PM
What's the cost of a full sleeve?

Exact cost I don't know, my daughter has a full sleeve and it cost a few hundred, it also depends what you want and who does it, if I have a few spare hundreds knocking around it's going towards a holiday when all this **** is over. :greengrin

Peevemor
09-01-2021, 01:30 PM
Until recent times the only folk that had tats were sailors and the only folk who had beards were older men.
Changed days. Fashions will change and the beards will go but the tats are forever.
I find them a really ugly thing on women but folk are entitled to do what floats their boat.
However, I would advise young folk not to get them on their face, neck or hands for obvious reasons.Women with beards have never done it for me either.

DH1875
09-01-2021, 01:39 PM
Exact cost I don't know, my daughter has a full sleeve and it cost a few hundred, it also depends what you want and who does it, if I have a few spare hundreds knocking around it's going towards a holiday when all this **** is over. :greengrin

Costs a lot more than a few hundred pound for a full sleeve. Wouldn't even get a half sleeve for that in most shops.

CMurdoch
09-01-2021, 01:42 PM
Women with beards have never done it for me either.

I knew someone would come back with that :wink:

SteveHFC
09-01-2021, 01:43 PM
I'm 62 and have 6 tats, I'd love to finish of my Moari tat on my shoulder and do the full sleeve but can't justify the money for it right now.

Have 6 myself bud and looking at some point in the future to getting the rest of my left arm covered up.


Not into tattoos myself but went to a 21st a few years back pre 2016 and this young guy had the latest HIBS badge on his right arm it truly was a thing of great beauty practically perfect in every way without looking tacky :agree:

Got this done on my right upper arm a few years back.

https://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/239/2/c/hibernian_by_76bev-d47zc7s.jpg

jacomo
09-01-2021, 01:55 PM
I guess the term youngster is relative.I am thinking of footballers playing in the 70's or earlier. As an aside I really miss long sleeve football tops. I wonder if we will ever see another strip with long sleeves?


Footballers in the 70s used to spend all their time in the pub and then maybe become a publican when they retired.

Today’s footballers don’t. No great surprise they spend their money on things that don’t impact their physical fitness, and of course football is much more fashion conscious these days.

Allant1981
09-01-2021, 02:14 PM
Have 6 myself bud and looking at some point in the future to getting the rest of my left arm covered up.



Got this done on my right upper arm a few years back.

https://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/239/2/c/hibernian_by_76bev-d47zc7s.jpg

How much did that cost if you don't mind me asking, really like that

SChibs
09-01-2021, 02:48 PM
What's the cost of a full sleeve?

I'd say around £500- £750 for the lower half and around £750-£1250 for the top half and shoulder. It depends on the style and artist too. It's the same as anything where generally if you pay more you get a better quality tattoo.

SteveHFC
09-01-2021, 02:48 PM
How much did that cost if you don't mind me asking, really like that

£150 mate from Hotter than Hell on Home Street. :aok:

Took around 2 hours.

Pretty Boy
09-01-2021, 02:50 PM
I've got one tattoo and would love to add a few more but it would have to be something really good and I just don't have the money for that at the moment.

Ultimately tattoos are a personal thing. If they mean something to you and you like them then anyone else's opinion is largely irrelevant. About 20% of the total UK population is tattooed now, that rises to 30% among 25-39 years olds. We might look daft when we look older but a sizeable minority of us will all look daft together.

Allant1981
09-01-2021, 02:59 PM
£150 mate from Hotter than Hell on Home Street. :aok:

Took around 2 hours.

Cheers ta, might need to steal that!

BILLYHIBS
09-01-2021, 03:00 PM
I have a Hun mate who is everything you would expect a Hun to be complete with the full collection of Hun tattoos on both arms

He eventually came to his senses and went to Turkey to get both sleeves done to cover them up

Don’t know how much it cost him ?

hibbyboy1
09-01-2021, 03:07 PM
have heard that Scott brown has a rangers tattoo on his foot

EI255
09-01-2021, 03:35 PM
Not sure what's worse, footballers awful tats or the stupid symbols they make with their hands after they score. Probably the latter.

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EI255
09-01-2021, 03:36 PM
have heard that Scott brown has a rangers tattoo on his footBet he kept that covered at the pool last week in Dubai.

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BSEJVT
09-01-2021, 03:58 PM
Because he wants to

I don't think he is criticising, more trying to understand and his OP I think made that clear.

Keith_M
09-01-2021, 04:33 PM
It's just fashionable and footballers can afford it much easier than the man/woman/other in the street. I honestly didn't know it costs thousands, though.

Imagine the cost of removing the damn things when the same people get a lot older. Removing that Swastika from my forehead was expensive enough...

Carheenlea
09-01-2021, 04:42 PM
“The one in the middle’s Danny McGrain”

.Sean.
09-01-2021, 04:43 PM
How much did that cost if you don't mind me asking, really like that
That’s minted. On the subject on Hibs tattoos, I’ve got this on my inner forearm, lost a bit of its sharpness when I’ve uploaded it however.

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McD
09-01-2021, 04:48 PM
I've got one tattoo and would love to add a few more but it would have to be something really good and I just don't have the money for that at the moment.

Ultimately tattoos are a personal thing. If they mean something to you and you like them then anyone else's opinion is largely irrelevant. About 20% of the total UK population is tattooed now, that rises to 30% among 25-39 years olds. We might look daft when we look older but a sizeable minority of us will all look daft together.


fascinating numbers PB, I would have thought for 25-39 it would have been higher than 30%

CMurdoch
09-01-2021, 04:57 PM
That’s minted. On the subject on Hibs tattoos, I’ve got this on my inner forearm, lost a bit of its sharpness when I’ve uploaded it however.

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I'm not a tattoo guy but there is a lot about that I like :aok:

Greenbeard
09-01-2021, 06:02 PM
That’s minted. On the subject on Hibs tattoos, I’ve got this on my inner forearm, lost a bit of its sharpness when I’ve uploaded it however.

24210
It's yersel?
Or a young Jamie Oliver?

The dalmeny
09-01-2021, 06:14 PM
It’s each to their own I suppose, have to have I find tattoos on women, on the whole, a real turn off.

Jay
09-01-2021, 06:30 PM
It’s each to their own I suppose, have to have I find tattoos on women, on the whole, a real turn off.

I find that really sad. Women being judged differently to men. Surely it would depend on the tattoo and where it is rather than the gender of the person. I suppose some women dont like men with tattoos but I find it a bit of a sweeping statement.

I say this as a woman with tattoos :greengrin

J-C
09-01-2021, 06:43 PM
Costs a lot more than a few hundred pound for a full sleeve. Wouldn't even get a half sleeve for that in most shops.


How much is a few hundred? if it's nearer 1 thousand then that's still a few hundred is it not, the point still stands it'll cost a lot of dosh I haven't got right now.

Renfrew_Hibby
09-01-2021, 07:06 PM
Footballers tend to be sheep like in their thinking so when tats galore started to take hold then it quickly became commonplace in the game.

Theres one very prominent player that I believe has zero tattoos. Whereas Messi might be covered head to toe in ink, his arch rival Ronaldo is still completely free of them.

Always been impressed by that, not sure why but good on Ronaldo, a leader and most definitely not a sheep.

Vault Boy
09-01-2021, 07:24 PM
Footballers tend to be sheep like in their thinking so when tats galore started to take hold then it quickly became commonplace in the game.

Theres one very prominent player that I believe has zero tattoos. Whereas Messi might be covered head to toe in ink, his arch rival Ronaldo is still completely free of them.

Always been impressed by that, not sure why but good on Ronaldo, a leader and most definitely not a sheep.

Don't think that's a fair assessment at all. Football is full of young people with the disposable income available to pay for some purely aesthetic things, such as hair transplants and tattoos, that other young professionals can't afford or justify. Casting footballers as being sheep is just a sweeping generalisation.

Can't understand how Ronaldo should be given any particular credit for not having tattoos - he should be focusing on, allegedly, treating women better. Mbappe, Robben, Haaland, Mané, Modric, Bale, Son, and Lewandowski, to add just a few to your list. Can genuinely think of more prominent players without tats than with them.

I've got no tattoos myself, but like with all art, there's some that I like the look of and some that I don't.

danhibees1875
09-01-2021, 07:45 PM
Footballers tend to be sheep like in their thinking so when tats galore started to take hold then it quickly became commonplace in the game.

Theres one very prominent player that I believe has zero tattoos. Whereas Messi might be covered head to toe in ink, his arch rival Ronaldo is still completely free of them.

Always been impressed by that, not sure why but good on Ronaldo, a leader and most definitely not a sheep.

On the Ronaldo bit, I think I once read that he doesn't have tattoos so as to maximise the number of times he can donate blood... No idea if you can't give blood for a while after getting a tattoo, or if it's just completely made up though.

Allant1981
09-01-2021, 08:37 PM
On the Ronaldo bit, I think I once read that he doesn't have tattoos so as to maximise the number of times he can donate blood... No idea if you can't give blood for a while after getting a tattoo, or if it's just completely made up though.

Yip can't give blood after getting a tattoo, 6 months rings a bell but can't quite remember

tamig
09-01-2021, 08:44 PM
I can’t stand tattoos myself and think they look so tacky now that they’re so mainstream. I agree with the poster above’s sheep like comment. They do nothing for me but each to their own.

Jones28
09-01-2021, 08:48 PM
On the Ronaldo bit, I think I once read that he doesn't have tattoos so as to maximise the number of times he can donate blood... No idea if you can't give blood for a while after getting a tattoo, or if it's just completely made up though.

I mean, if that’s the case it’s a pretty phenomenal thing to do.

A previous poster mentioned something about questionable conduct with women, what was that?

Bridge hibs
09-01-2021, 09:03 PM
I find that really sad. Women being judged differently to men. Surely it would depend on the tattoo and where it is rather than the gender of the person. I suppose some women dont like men with tattoos but I find it a bit of a sweeping statement.

I say this as a woman with tattoos :greengrinI agree, I have a female colleage, she has sleeves and to be honest they are excellent art work, they are a work of art and I love art, I love the various footballer tattoos, each to their own

Vault Boy
09-01-2021, 09:14 PM
I mean, if that’s the case it’s a pretty phenomenal thing to do.

A previous poster mentioned something about questionable conduct with women, what was that?

https://www.si.com/.amp/soccer/2020/02/06/cristiano-ronaldo-rape-case-kathryn-mayorga-arbitration

h1bs4life
10-01-2021, 09:25 AM
Not a big fan of tattoos either , mate , brother and myself said we would get a Hibs tattoo when we win the Scottish Cup ,we were in our twenties at the time .
After the cup win and in my fifties , 6 hours of pain and a cost £380 have my tattoo.
Still waiting on the other two getting there's , it would need to be something like winning the league before I would even think of another one.