Livi Goal

[gbhibby]

Watching sky sports ref watch Dermot Gallagher mentioned that the goal Livi scored which started with the corner kick was offside, must admit didn't see it at the time. There were two Livi players behind our goalie.

[hibbysam]

Watching sky sports ref watch Dermot Gallagher mentioned that the goal Livi scored which started with the corner kick was offside, must admit didn't see it at the time. There were two Livi players behind our goalie.

We had two players on the line, that part wasn’t offside. Watching live I thought it would be offside at the short corner, but without a still photo showing the middle of the box at the same time it’s hard to tell.

[gbhibby]

We had two players on the line, that part wasn’t offside. Watching live I thought it would be offside at the short corner, but without a still photo showing the middle of the box at the same time it’s hard to tell.
When ball was passed back to the player that took the corner the corner kicker was offside also hibs players were in front of the goalie and a Livi player behind the goalie when the ball was played back to the corner kicker was also in an offside position. The guy behind the goalie would also have been offside in the 2nd phase of play as well as he became active.

[danhibees1875]

Probably is offside.

Looks like the livi player was off the pitch when the pass was made which I believe puts his position as on the line and so with no Hibs players off the field he must have been.

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[MWHIBBIES]

That along with every corner they took being outside the semi circle. Poor from officials.

[CentreLine]

Probably right but in think we are clutching at straws if we need to analyse so minutely post match. Officials make mistakes, it’s up to us to expect that and defend it regardless.
It looked at times as of some prankster had changed our players boots for oversized clown shoes the way usually reliable players performed. 🤨

[Alfred E Newman]

That along with every corner they took being outside the semi circle. Poor from officials.

I can’t remember the last time I saw a corner kick taken from inside the markings.

[ancient hibee]

The ball only has to touch the marking which means that most of the ball can be outside.

[Frazerbob]

The ball only has to touch the marking which means that most of the ball can be outside.

The ball doesn’t need to touch the line, as long as it over hangs the quadrant is how I understand it.

[SaulGoodman]

Only one thing for it.

Replay the match.

[Callum_62]

To be fair that should be an easy one for the officials
I await Kris Boyds aboslute rage at this shocking decision

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[gbhibby]

Saul
You are sounding like Kris Boyd he still goes on About our second goal against them at Easter Road. 😁😁

[brog]

I was calling it for offside at the time. Probably the easiest call that any official needed to make! I know we were awful on Saturday but going 2 down so early really did make it a much more difficult task.

[gbhibby]

Saul
You are sounding like Kris Boyd he still goes on About our second goal against them at Easter Road. 😁😁
Sorry Saul should not have compared you to Kris Boyd please accept my apologies.

[Bangkok Hibby]

The ball doesn’t need to touch the line, as long as it over hangs the quadrant is how I understand it.

Correct and this touches on a pet peeve of mine. How footballers over the years NEVER took a free kick from where it was supposed to be taken. As if grabbing a few inches made any difference to a forty yard punt into the box.

[hibbysam]

When ball was passed back to the player that took the corner the corner kicker was offside also hibs players were in front of the goalie and a Livi player behind the goalie when the ball was played back to the corner kicker was also in an offside position. The guy behind the goalie would also have been offside in the 2nd phase of play as well as he became active.

The player behind the keeper (Bartley I think) isn’t offside, he’s never involved in the play, Barnes played the ball which resets play, their player then heads the ball and by that time we had two players on the line, keepers position is irrelevant. Seeing the photo the original corner taker is offside and that’s the only part of the move I thought was offside at the time, fairly easy call as well. No idea why teams do that from corners as 99% of the time it results in an offside for the sake of about 2 feet.

[MWHIBBIES]

The player behind the keeper (Bartley I think) isn’t offside, he’s never involved in the play, Barnes played the ball which resets play, their player then heads the ball and by that time we had two players on the line, keepers position is irrelevant. Seeing the photo the original corner taker is offside and that’s the only part of the move I thought was offside at the time, fairly easy call as well. No idea why teams do that from corners as 99% of the time it results in an offside for the sake of about 2 feet.

takes 2 defending players out the box for 1 attacker

[JimBHibees]

takes 2 defending players out the box for 1 attacker

Absolutely really surprised we don't d that sort of corner variation. Seems very one dimensional

[hibbysam]

takes 2 defending players out the box for 1 attacker

Of course it does, I mean the short pass, stop and cross, move that they done, the majority of the time the corner taker hasn’t the time to get onside and is flagged. Short corners make sense to me, just not this little shift of the ball.

[JimBHibees]

Watching sky sports ref watch Dermot Gallagher mentioned that the goal Livi scored which started with the corner kick was offside, must admit didn't see it at the time. There were two Livi players behind our goalie.

Disappointing that very basic decision was missed

[ancient hibee]

Wasn’t missed by the Hibs bench who were pointing down the line and speaking to the 4th official.

[SaulGoodman]

Sorry Saul should not have compared you to Kris Boyd please accept my apologies.

I’m not that fat.. yet.

[Lancs Harp]

Back in the day when most of us were growing up i'm pretty sure the rule for all the ball being over the line was interpreted as most of the ball. I think it still is as far as a thrown in is concerned. If most of the ball is out Im pretty sure he lino flags. We never had this millimetre of the ball eclipsing the quadrant line at corners (as if it makes that much difference being honest). Oh for a return to jumpers for goalposts :greengrin

Regarding the original post, no excuse for a dismal display but technically it was offside as proved on Sky.

[Peevemor]

Back in the day when most of us were growing up i'm pretty sure the rule for all the ball being over the line was interpreted as most of the ball. I think it still is as far as a thrown in is concerned. If most of the ball is out Im pretty sure he lino flags. We never had this millimetre of the ball eclipsing the quadrant line at corners (as if it makes that much difference being honest). Oh for a return to jumpers for goalposts :greengrin

Regarding the original post, no excuse for a dismal display but technically it was offside as proved on Sky.The ball has to be entirely over the line when viewed from directly overhead.

[Lancs Harp]

The ball has to be entirely over the line when viewed from directly overhead.

I know fella my post was more about how it was enforced or not enforced, especially for throw ins.

[Peevemor]

I know fella my post was more about how it was enforced or not enforced, especially for throw ins.Fair enough. I'm just reciting subbuteo rules - I'm sure it's the same thing. [emoji6]

[Lancs Harp]

Fair enough. I'm just reciting subbuteo rules - I'm sure it's the same thing. [emoji6]

My Hibs Subbuteo team was invincible. We need to be playing with a bigger ball. We once beat a Striker team (remember that game?) 5-0 and their players were miles bigger than our lads. Even had one of our lads on the sidelines recovering from a bostik job.

[bigwheel]

My Hibs Subbuteo team was invincible. We need to be playing with a bigger ball. We once beat a Striker team (remember that game?) 5-0 and their players were miles bigger than our lads. Even had one of our lads on the sidelines recovering from a bostik job.

Subbuteo and Striker my two favourite football games as a kid ! Loved the diving keepers. And the throwing action of the striker goalie’s !

[Peevemor]

My Hibs Subbuteo team was invincible. We need to be playing with a bigger ball. We once beat a Striker team (remember that game?) 5-0 and their players were miles bigger than our lads. Even had one of our lads on the sidelines recovering from a bostik job.When we were bored we sometimes did a striker version of headers & volleys (or 7 byes or whatever you want to call it), where volleys only counted if you pressed down on the top of your head at the same time.

[gbhibby]

My Hibs Subbuteo team was invincible. We need to be playing with a bigger ball. We once beat a Striker team (remember that game?) 5-0 and their players were miles bigger than our lads. Even had one of our lads on the sidelines recovering from a bostik job.
Subbuteo players don't have any bos

[brog]

Back in the day when most of us were growing up i'm pretty sure the rule for all the ball being over the line was interpreted as most of the ball. I think it still is as far as a thrown in is concerned. If most of the ball is out Im pretty sure he lino flags. We never had this millimetre of the ball eclipsing the quadrant line at corners (as if it makes that much difference being honest). Oh for a return to jumpers for goalposts :greengrin

Regarding the original post, no excuse for a dismal display but technically it was offside as proved on Sky.

You're correct. Balls down wing & along goal line are continually flagged as being out when they're not. It's long been a bugbear of mine. Interestingly when I took my ref's badge, in London, this was something they emphasised. Our instructor, a Prem League ref, lined about 10 of us up in line with penalty spot then placed a ball with all of the ball touching the turf behind the goal line. I was only person who said it wasn't a goal & that was only because of my fixation with the subject. That was nearly 40 years ago & yet most people only understand the rule now because of the strange obsession with gaining an inch or 2 at corner kicks!!

[Speedy]

Correct and this touches on a pet peeve of mine. How footballers over the years NEVER took a free kick from where it was supposed to be taken. As if grabbing a few inches made any difference to a forty yard punt into the box.

The Chelsea Man City game was odd the other day. Indirect freekick for a backpass. The freekick was then taken ourside the box.

[hibbysam]

The Chelsea Man City game was odd the other day. Indirect freekick for a backpass. The freekick was then taken ourside the box.

There was a back pass in our game the other day as well (IIRC) that I was screaming at the tele about. Through ball, our player chasing but the Livi player got there just in front and nicked it back to the keeper who came out and collected it. Sure one of their players went down injured and play was stopped just after, not one protest, not one mention of it in commentary.

I’m 99% sure it was our game as I wouldn’t have been as animated as I was if it was another game 😂

[Sir David Gray]

The Chelsea Man City game was odd the other day. Indirect freekick for a backpass. The freekick was then taken ourside the box.

I noticed that at the time too, very odd.

If the referee thought the goalkeeper had handled the ball outside his box then it should have been a direct free kick and the goalkeeper potentially sent off.

[H18 SFR]

I noticed that at the time too, very odd.

If the referee thought the goalkeeper had handled the ball outside his box then it should have been a direct free kick and the goalkeeper potentially sent off.

The referee definitely didn’t think that as he clearly signalled it was indirect at the restart of play.

[Hibernianrus]

That along with every corner they took being outside the semi circle. Poor from officials.

it’s the new normal it would appear for every corner to be outside the quadrant but the officials never pick up on it.

[davym7062]

Only one thing for it.

Replay the match.

god no, im not watching that again :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

There was a back pass in our game the other day as well (IIRC) that I was screaming at the tele about. Through ball, our player chasing but the Livi player got there just in front and nicked it back to the keeper who came out and collected it. Sure one of their players went down injured and play was stopped just after, not one protest, not one mention of it in commentary.

I’m 99% sure it was our game as I wouldn’t have been as animated as I was if it was another game 😂

Was that the the goalie kicked out and Doidge should have go to it but was outrun. Think the defende was at it going down maybe because of the backpass. Didn't notice it at the time.

[JimBHibees]

god no, im not watching that again :greengrin

Spot on Davy. Was torture. :greengrin

[hibbysam]

Was that the the goalie kicked out and Doidge should have go to it but was outrun. Think the defende was at it going down maybe because of the backpass. Didn't notice it at the time.

That’s exactly the one, now you remind me! Aye Doidge falls on his arse with the defender in front of him, knocks it back to the keeper and the player goes down. I actually couldn’t believe it wasn’t even claimed for.

[Sir David Gray]

The referee definitely didn’t think that as he clearly signalled it was indirect at the restart of play.

I didn't think so either it just doesn't make sense why he made them take it outside the box.