Emotionless/passionless

[Stuart93]

Seems to be running right through the club just now

From your captain, to the rest of the team, to your manager, to your sporting director

They all sound and act like robots. No-one overly pissed off at the previous 2 results.

[gaz1875]

Seems to be running right through the club just now

From your captain, to the rest of the team, to your manager, to your sporting director

They all sound and act like robots. No-one overly pissed off at the previous 2 results.


You could drop the e and just say motionless.

[MWHIBBIES]

They're all annoyed. Spouting emotional pish in public doesn't help. Correct to do their business behind the scenes

[Eaststand]

Seems to be running right through the club just now

From your captain, to the rest of the team, to your manager, to your sporting director

They all sound and act like robots. No-one overly pissed off at the previous 2 results.

Why do you use the term 'your captain' and 'your manager' in your post.

I'd expect most hibbies to refer to them same as I do, and use the term 'our captain' etc as its our team, our club

GGTTH

[Allant1981]

Seems to be running right through the club just now

From your captain, to the rest of the team, to your manager, to your sporting director

They all sound and act like robots. No-one overly pissed off at the previous 2 results.

you know them all personally I take it to suggest they aren't overly pissed off

[Coco Bryce]

you know them all personally I take it to suggest they aren't overly pissed off

It would be fair to say the players didn't really give a **** today even after that woeful performance on Wednesday night.

[Keith_M]

There's already a 'Spineless and Gutless' thread.



:wink:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

You could drop the e and just say motionless.

We could all do with dropping an e tonight! Making do with Strongbow instead. 🍺

[Stuart93]

Why do you use the term 'your captain' and 'your manager' in your post.

I'd expect most hibbies to refer to them same as I do, and use the term 'our captain' etc as its our team, our club

GGTTH

Ah right. You’ve rumbled me then. All because I’ve said your.

[Stuart93]

you know them all personally I take it to suggest they aren't overly pissed off

I didn’t see any reaction today from Wednesday to suggest they give a **** to be honest

[Keith_M]

Ah right. You’ve rumbled me then. All because I’ve said your.


Just out of interest, why did you say 'your'?

:dunno:

[Since452]

Seems to be running right through the club just now

From your captain, to the rest of the team, to your manager, to your sporting director

They all sound and act like robots. No-one overly pissed off at the previous 2 results.

What do you want them to do? Cry on camera? They need to to their talking on the park and nowhere else. If I didn't hear their voices again I couldn't care less.

[Speedy]

Balance is wrong. It's important that strategic decision makers can put emotion to one side but if that emotion and fight isn't there for the players then it's gone too far.

[Stuart93]

Just out of interest, why did you say 'your'?

:dunno:

It’s a term of phrase

It obviously wasn’t meant as in your as in not mine but the people I’m addressing

[bingo70]

Just out of interest, why did you say 'your'?

:dunno:

It’s a figure of speech (if that’s the right phrase), I know what he meant and thought it was pretty clear from his post that most people would have known what he meant.

[superfurryhibby]

Just out of interest, why did you say 'your'?

:dunno:

Over exuberant distancing of oneself from any association with a team that is plummeting from grace after two rather abysmal performances in a row.

[Stuart93]

What do you want them to do? Cry on camera? They need to to their talking on the park and nowhere else. If I didn't hear their voices again I couldn't care less.

Have you seen any emotion or passion on the park? Cause I haven’t. Absolutely no reaction to Wednesday poor performance

[Allant1981]

I didn’t see any reaction today from Wednesday to suggest they give a **** to be honest

So because we were beaten they dont care, aye OK then

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It’s a term of phrase

It obviously wasn’t meant as in your as in not mine but the people I’m addressing

Seemed pretty obvious to me.

[Stuart93]

Seemed pretty obvious to me.

Aye either that I’m a Jambo

[Eaststand]

Ah right. You’ve rumbled me then. All because I’ve said your.

Rumbled you as what ?
Even though we were poor again today, I'm curious why you don't want to call it our club, our team.

GGTTH

[Wheat Hound]

The lack of visible passion/emotion throughout the leadership roles in our club is a common theme. A disconnect between clubs and fans.

[GreenCastle]

Would be good if they could replace Leanne sometime soon.

Seems lack of leadership at the club.

The recruitment team need to find leaders to get us back on track - young up and coming loan players aren’t going to help unless they are really good and make an instant impact.

[Stuart93]

Rumbled you as what ?
Even though we were poor again today, I'm curious why you don't want to call it our club, our team.

GGTTH

Why the **** do I have to refer to it as our club or our team? Does it make my point any less relevant hahaha

This place is so strange at times

[Carheenlea]

The standards should be such at Hibs that anything less that 6 points in back to back home games against Ross County and Livingston is unacceptable. We have fell well short of that and I’d like to think there is anger at those last two performances internally.
We’ve tended to bounce back from bad results in recent times, but this is threatening to turn into a bad run. And our bad runs can be quite spectacular.

[Robbo6-2]

Graeme Mathie is a very similar to Cathro. A laptop guy with no leadership skills.

How is he seriously our Sporting Director. Your not telling me an intelligent ex player could not do his job? I am not saying Goc or Deek but your not telling me that the likes of Ian Murray, Gary Smith or dare i say someone like Michael Stewart do his gig. Someone that actually knows what it takes to become a professional footballer.


Not someone university graduate that is excellent on powerpoint. What do we pay Mathie? 100k a year? Absolute joke that theres loads of ex players overlooked for these types of roles.

[Allant1981]

Graeme Mathie is a very similar to Cathro. A laptop guy with no leadership skills.

How is he seriously our Sporting Director. Your not telling me an intelligent ex player could not do his job? I am not saying Goc or Deek but your not telling me that the likes of Ian Murray, Gary Smith or dare i say someone like Michael Stewart do his gig. Someone that actually knows what it takes to become a professional footballer.


Not someone university graduate that is excellent on powerpoint. What do we pay Mathie? 100k a year? Absolute joke that theres loads of ex players overlooked for these types of roles.

You do know that mathie was a professional footballer

[Robbo6-2]

You do know that mathie was a professional footballer


How many SPL games did he play?

0

[hulk]

Graeme Mathie is a very similar to Cathro. A laptop guy with no leadership skills.

How is he seriously our Sporting Director. Your not telling me an intelligent ex player could not do his job? I am not saying Goc or Deek but your not telling me that the likes of Ian Murray, Gary Smith or dare i say someone like Michael Stewart do his gig. Someone that actually knows what it takes to become a professional footballer


Not someone university graduate that is excellent on powerpoint. What do we pay Mathie? 100k a year? Absolute joke that theres loads of ex players overlooked for these types of roles.


Pretty sure Mathie is an ex professional footballer.

[Nicho87]

Mathie shouldn’t be in that again. Comment was pathetic saying he can’t comment.

[Allant1981]

How many SPL games did he play?

0

So because he didn't play in the Premier league he isn't qualified to do that role, got you now

[Peevemor]

Pretty sure Mathie is an ex professional footballer.He is.

Don't let that get in the way of a moan though. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210102/23a1efafb4a5371e1ef6323140b50d6d.jpg

[Iain G]

Graeme Mathie is a very similar to Cathro. A laptop guy with no leadership skills.

How is he seriously our Sporting Director. Your not telling me an intelligent ex player could not do his job? I am not saying Goc or Deek but your not telling me that the likes of Ian Murray, Gary Smith or dare i say someone like Michael Stewart do his gig. Someone that actually knows what it takes to become a professional footballer.


Not someone university graduate that is excellent on powerpoint. What do we pay Mathie? 100k a year? Absolute joke that theres loads of ex players overlooked for these types of roles.

What are you actually criticising him of not doing or not being able to do!

A laptop guy with no leadership skills must be the most vague and silly attempted criticisms.

Which specific leadership skills is he lacking and how do you know he can use a laptop?

[Peevemor]

Mathie shouldn’t be in that again. Comment was pathetic saying he can’t comment.No, he shouldn't have been asked to comment.

[marinello59]

No, he shouldn't have been asked to comment.

He shouldn’t have been there in the first place then.

[Carheenlea]

So because he didn't play in the Premier league he isn't qualified to do that role, got you now

By that logic none of the opinion expressed by any of us on here can be taken seriously as none of us has played football in the top flight.

Mathie is well qualified for the job, but like anyone else in the playing side of the club his reputation ultimately is determined by what we see on the pitch on a Saturday.

[Nicho87]

No, he shouldn't have been asked to comment.

Your getting beat 2 nil. We don’t need a corporate answer when it’s going out on hibs tv. Even a generic backing off hopefully the guys can’t turn around a dismal first half. But to say he can’t comment, ridiculous.

I can be pretty sure if it was 2-0 hibs he would have commented.

[Robbo6-2]

Pretty sure Mathie is an ex professional footballer.

15 games for East Fife.

Top career

[Hibees1973]

It is important not to be over reactive after three consecutive losses.

What is concerning is the nature of the last two defeats. The title of this thread is appropriate and sums up our two most recent home performances.

There is a real danger of this getting out of hand and spiralling out of control. You only need to look over the road of how the Yams got into decline and it can take years to get out of it.

What is bothering me just now is Dempster’s decision to leave. Let’s face it she was at the root of what was good about Hibs over the last few years and with her leaving there is a risk of the club de-stabalizing.

Not sure what the answer is. In the short term a couple of good victories to get us back on track.

However, we will find out soon if Ross can turn this round. If, not it is over to Ron, not Dempster to make some big calls.

[Peevemor]

Your getting beat 2 nil. We don’t need a corporate answer when it’s going out on hibs tv. Even a generic backing off hopefully the guys can’t turn around a dismal first half. But to say he can’t comment, ridiculous.He did comment though, but said (more or less) that he wouldn't get drawn into criticising Hibs.

[Peevemor]

15 games for East Fife.

Top careerSo he wasn't a footballer?

[Allant1981]

By that logic none of the opinion expressed by any of us on here can be taken seriously as none of us has played football in the top flight.

Mathie is well qualified for the job, but like anyone else in the playing side of the club his reputation ultimately is determined by what we see on the pitch on a Saturday.


Yip agree, crazy to suggest his lack of Premier league experience means he shouldn't be in the role, but folk need a scapegoat after a defeat it appears, it's Mathies turn now by the poster

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Anyone comparing Mathie to The Dalry Llama already lost the argument. Lazy throw away comment.

[Peevemor]

Yip agree, crazy to suggest his lack of Premier league experience means he shouldn't be in the role, but folk need a scapegoat after a defeat it appears, it's Mathies turn now by the posterHe obviously chose the wrong day to stick his head above the parapet.

[WhileTheChief..]

It’s the same old problem with us being too ‘nice’ as a club.

Gray and McGregors contract extensions were ridiculous, Mathie’s promotion just lacks any kind of imagination or foresight and sticking with past favourites like Hanlon and Stevenson isn’t doing anyone any favours.

I think LD going is a good thing and I’m pretty sure Ron saw the need to freshen and liven things up in the boardroom, hence the 4 new faces there.

Hopefully their strategy going forwards is more results driven and less about all the other stuff the club seems keen to be involved with.

Ron has stated many times that he wants us playing in Europe and in semi finals.

As long as JR hits these goals he’ll be safe. If it looks like we’ll miss out on 4th I think he could be in trouble.

[Allant1981]

15 games for East Fife.

Top career

How many games did you play? Should your posts on here just be ignored also if that's the important factor

[Keith_M]

It’s a figure of speech (if that’s the right phrase), I know what he meant and thought it was pretty clear from his post that most people would have known what he meant.


Sorry, but it obviously wasn't, as is shown by other people's replies.

I'm not accusing him of anything, I just wondered why he used that particular word as it seemed a bit strange.

TBH, I still don't get it but it's no big deal.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Rumbled you as what ?
Even though we were poor again today, I'm curious why you don't want to call it our club, our team.

GGTTH

It's a turn of phrase, I wouldn't get overly concerned about it.

[Stuart93]

It always makes me think about the spurs documentary.

The first thing Mourinho came in and done was told the players they were far too nice and he wanted them to be *****

He wanted them to be dirty, commit fouls etc. Maybe it’s time we started some of that. Play with a bit more passion

[Nicho87]

He did comment though, but said (more or less) that he wouldn't get drawn into criticising Hibs.

Which is the point. Absolute pointless him being a guest on a matchday in my opinion.

[Peevemor]

Which is the point. Absolute pointless him being a guest on a matchday in my opinion.People moan about everything these days, including the matchday Hibs TV output.

Hibs TV get the club's sporting director on to talk during 30 minutes before the match, then again at half time.

Nothing's good enough apparently.

[PercyHibs]

It always makes me think about the spurs documentary.

The first thing Mourinho came in and done was told the players they were far too nice and he wanted them to be *****

He wanted them to be dirty, commit fouls etc. Maybe it’s time we started some of that. Play with a bit more passion

Totally agree with your opening post. There should have been an obvious reaction after Wednesday. A bit of grit and determination to prove they’re better than the previous result. More intensity and urgency in their play. You see it in all sports after a team has had a tough defeat. I’m big Jack Ross fan but I find his interviews boring and almost patronising the way he plays everything down. I know he’s not there to entertain in interviews but I always feel we’re not hearing his honest thoughts on the game.

Fair play to you for sticking with this thread also and discussing your original point. Having to explain your use of words and grammar to people after raising a valid point is one of the reasons I done come on here much anymore.

[WhileTheChief..]

Sorry, but it obviously wasn't, as is shown by other people's replies.

I'm not accusing him of anything, I just wondered why he used that particular word as it seemed a bit strange.

TBH, I still don't get it but it's no big deal.

You’re being deliberately awkward here.

You hear it all the time...

”you want your goalie to command his area”

”you want your wingers running at the defence”

’you want your manager to show some emotion”

”you want your strikers to take their chances”

etc etc etc.

[Carheenlea]

Things have really went on a downward spiral very quickly since Lexo rocked up for his Hibs TV gig. Hopefully whoever had that bright idea is already clearing their desk.

[Keith_M]

You’re being deliberately awkward here.
....


Thanks for clearing that up.

:aok:

[Eaststand]

You’re being deliberately awkward here.

You hear it all the time...

”you want your goalie to command his area”

”you want your wingers running at the defence”

’you want your manager to show some emotion”

”you want your strikers to take their chances”

etc etc etc.

It must be different styles of chat for different folks.
I don't think Keith is being awkward at all, and I've never heard anyone I chat to about football using the type of chat you describe, it's always our team or our club, our manager when we're talking about the cabbage.

*Last post from me as our game against Dundee is on the TV now ;-)

Haha

GGTTH

[Keith_M]

It must be different styles of chat for different folks.
I don't think Keith is being awkward at all, and I've never heard anyone I chat to about football using the type of chat you describe, it's always our team or our club, our manager when we're talking about the cabbage.


GGTTH


Thanks, I really wasn't.

:aok:


I honestly just wasn't very quick on the uptake yesterday, and really didn't get it at the time.

[basehibby]

Mathie shouldn’t be in that again. Comment was pathetic saying he can’t comment.

His comment that his job is to take the emotion out of the situation and make rational objective recruitment decisions is actually bang on from the POV of a Sporting Director and if he had made them against a background of a comfortable win against Livi you would not give a rats erse.