Jehovah's Witness

[DaveF]

Not a thread for slagging them off but we just got a letter through the post (addressed to the householder) and it contained a JW newsletter but more surprisingly, and handwritten note all about JW and their beliefs.

I'm not about to join the ranks but it's a very personal touch, an interesting strategy to get their message out and it took me back 30 years as it's been that long since I saw a handwritten letter!

[G B Young]

Not a thread for slagging them off but we just got a letter through the post (addressed to the householder) and it contained a JW newsletter but more surprisingly, and handwritten note all about JW and their beliefs.

I'm not about to join the ranks but it's a very personal touch, an interesting strategy to get their message out and it took me back 30 years as it's been that long since I saw a handwritten letter!

There's a big complex comprising, I think, a church and offices/accommodation on Spylaw Road which is occupied by 'The Church of the Latter Day Saints' which I think means Mormons. Are they the same as Jehovah's Witnesses?

[Peevemor]

There's a big complex comprising, I think, a church and offices/accommodation on Spylaw Road which is occupied by 'The Church of the Latter Day Saints' which I think means Mormons. Are they the same as Jehovah's Witnesses?Not at all.

Different founders and different beliefs.

[easty]

There's a big complex comprising, I think, a church and offices/accommodation on Spylaw Road which is occupied by 'The Church of the Latter Day Saints' which I think means Mormons. Are they the same as Jehovah's Witnesses?

Very different.

[Scouse Hibee]

Not a thread for slagging them off but we just got a letter through the post (addressed to the householder) and it contained a JW newsletter but more surprisingly, and handwritten note all about JW and their beliefs.

I'm not about to join the ranks but it's a very personal touch, an interesting strategy to get their message out and it took me back 30 years as it's been that long since I saw a handwritten letter!

Have they given up door knocking then?

[G B Young]

Not at all.

Different founders and different beliefs.

Cheers. I remember reading a Sherlock Holmes story many years ago, part of which was set in the Mormon community around Salt Lake City. That is pretty much my only 'reading up' on this subject so I have no real idea about the Jehovah's Witnesses other than the fact I've occasionally been stopped by them in the street for a chat and you see quite a few 'Kingdom Halls' around Scotland.

[easty]

I went to see The Book of Mormon in New York a few years ago, while I’m sure it’s not a great description of Mormonism, it was absolutely brilliant.

[Peevemor]

Cheers. I remember reading a Sherlock Holmes story many years ago, part of which was set in the Mormon community around Salt Lake City. That is pretty much my only 'reading up' on this subject so I have no real idea about the Jehovah's Witnesses other than the fact I've occasionally been stopped by them in the street for a chat and you see quite a few 'Kingdom Halls' around Scotland.There was a couple of guys (brothers) about my age that were at the same schools as me who were/are Jehovah's Witnesses. We heard bits and pieces about their beliefs (they don't celebrate Christmas or birthdays, they refuse blood transfusions...) and they were bullied - purely because they were different and kids are s**ts.

Later my big sister went out with a Jehovah's Witness for a couple of years. Apart from being a Hearts supporter he was/is really sound and, while he was fairly devout, he joined in with our family celebrations no problem. If you speak to him about his beliefs he'll explain them to you rationally. Anyone who doesn't know or ask his religion would be none the wiser.

As for Mormons, the majority of people in the UK probably first heard of them because of the Osmonds. One of my pals, a brickie, went to work in Salt Lake City for a few months (big bucks) and basically everything was controlled by the Mormons. That's about the sum of my knowledge.

[Jack]

Are you sure its handwritten?

Some of the printers these days can do amazing work.

[Pretty Boy]

I've always found Jehovah's Witnesses to be quite fascinating.

Their rejection of the Trinity, a conscious afterlife and similar points of doctrine is quite distinct in Christianity. Equally their exclusivism is probably unrivaled in mainstream Christianity nowadays. Whilst Catholics, several Protestant denomination and the Orthodox Churches seek ever closer relationships with each other and non Christian religions, the Jehovahs witnesses steadfastly stick to their belief they are the only true religion. Some of their belies around homosexuality, abortion, masturbation, same sex marriage and suicide makes the likes of the Catholic Church or the wee frees look positively enlightened. It's really zero tolerance stuff.

I know a couple of people who are JWs. One was a guy who used to come into my old work for a half pint every Friday night. He was quite an affable guy and would occasionally give me a copy of The Watchtower or Awake but was rarely pushy. The other converted in his 30s and became really hard line. he cut himself off from all his non JW friends and acquaintances, which I believe is encouraged, and became quite involved in the recruitment side of things. Last time I saw him was a couple of years ago around about Christmas standing outside Waverley Station ranting about unbiblical fairy stories.

[DaveF]

Are you sure its handwritten?

Some of the printers these days can do amazing work.

Looks 100% handwritten. You can see the impressions of the pen on the flip side of the paper.

[makaveli1875]

Looks 100% handwritten. You can see the impressions of the pen on the flip side of the paper.

I got 1 a couple of weeks ago , it was defo hand written . Must have had the whole Kingdom Hall smashing out letters 24/7 during lockdown

[hibsbollah]

Looks 100% handwritten. You can see the impressions of the pen on the flip side of the paper.

...if you look really closely you can make out Jesus. Or it might be one of the bee gees

[Mon Dieu4]

I used to work with an older lady who was a JW, she was lovely, we sat beside each other and I'm curious about people's beliefs, this was pre internet being everywhere days so finding out answers about these kind of things wasn't as easy as it is now, but she would happily tell me what they do and don't believe in with great patience and without trying to convert me

Think she likes the fact I was genuinely interested and didn't mock her in any way, what I will say is they've pretty much thought of everything when it comes to leaflets, I remember asking if there is only room for so many people in heaven then what happens to the rest of us

She told me that earth will be amazing with everyone living in peace and harmony, no killings etc, I cracked a joke asking if tigers will still hunt and eat prey, the next again day she brought me in a leaflet which had a cartoon of a tiger eating wheat

[Hibernia&Alba]

Who was the guy on here a while back who was raised a Jehovah's Witness? I'm sure he said they kicked him out for becoming too 'wordly'.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

who was the guy on here a while back who was raised a jehovah's witness? I'm sure he said they kicked him out for becoming too 'wordly'.

dbs? 😉

[Scorrie]

...if you look really closely you can make out Jesus. Or it might be one of the bee gees

You can tell by the way they walk

[Hibernia&Alba]

You can tell by the way they walk

:top marks:top marks

[Hibby70]

I had a friend who committed suicide. His parents and brother/sister were JW - he wasn't and I think he always felt like an outcast.

Anyway the funeral was really weird. I think they only mentioned him by name once and the rest felt like a recruitment drive.

[greenlex]

Not a thread for slagging them off but we just got a letter through the post (addressed to the householder) and it contained a JW newsletter but more surprisingly, and handwritten note all about JW and their beliefs.

I'm not about to join the ranks but it's a very personal touch, an interesting strategy to get their message out and it took me back 30 years as it's been that long since I saw a handwritten letter!
There’s a rather large Kingdom Hall complex up Eiliburn way on Appleton Parkway. It’s quite a big complex. Always dozens of cars at it. It’s weird as I get around West Lothian with golf and work and know lots of people from all over. I do not know one single JW. For a complex that big I’d assume I’d know at least one. They sure do keep themselves to themselves other than knocking doors which us a bit of an oxymoron thyme thingy.

[lord bunberry]

I know a guy from the taxis that became a JW. He was treated really badly by his wife and kids and turned to them. It’s actually quite funny when I think what he used to be like, but he seems happy enough. I think for some people it’s about being a part of something that does a lot of the thinking for you.

[Onceinawhile]

I went to see The Book of Mormon in New York a few years ago, while I’m sure it’s not a great description of Mormonism, it was absolutely brilliant.

I had tickets for it at the playhouse this year. Rescheduled for June 2021, so fingers crossed it's on!

[Peevemor]

I know a guy from the taxis that became a JW. He was treated really badly by his wife and kids and turned to them. It’s actually quite funny when I think what he used to be like, but he seems happy enough. I think for some people it’s about being a part of something that does a lot of the thinking for you.Same could be said of most religions.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Same could be said of most religions.

Yes, an emotional crutch. That isn't a criticism, as we all need something that helps us survive and make sense of our lives.

[Peevemor]

Yes, an emotional crutch. That isn't a criticism, as we all need something that helps us survive and make sense of our lives.I wasn't criticising. Likewise there are people that will go further by themselves instead of simply accepting doctrine, which is probably more suited to some religions than others.

[MartinfaePorty]

Remember reading a pamphlet produced by the Catholic church telling you what to say to any JWs who came to your door, Basically just directing you to ask them about certain 'questionable' aspects about the origin of their religion, albeit I guess you could do something similar for all religions. Can't remember a lot about it, but there was an accusation that much of it centered around commercial activities they undertook to raise funds (IIRC the phrase 'miracle wheat' was mentioned, where they sold said wheat for a higher price, as it was blessed).

Regarding Mormonism, one of my American History lecturers at Edinburgh took great delight in trashing the origins of the Mormon religion, which I felt was pretty unfair, given that he wasn't aware if there were any in the audience. Quakers actually got praised (can't remember if by him or someone else) for being very peaceful, tolerant and quite progressive e.g. many of them advocating the abolition of slavery.

[stu in nottingham]

One or two ex-JWs I know, including a very close pal often seem emotionally and mentally scarred by their experiences. Quite difficult for them to talk about too. That particular friend left the JWs many, many years ago and his sister has refused to speak to him ever since, stating that she is 'not allowed' to as he left the Brotherhood. He has an absolute hatred for them now and to some extent all religion.

It's often find that JWs move from casual job to job and situation to situation in order to spread the word more widely. A typical example was a cleaning person who worked in a large building where I worked. Friendly and personable, within minutes the conversation would always inevitably turn to the same familiar subject. It's why they are there in those environments, it's their duty to spread the word.

They hold details of all homes in the area they operate in and it is recorded when you've had a visit and the outcome. Visits to homes are scheduled on a rota I'm told.

I've personally never had a problem at the front door with them. Expressing that I'm a Catholic and that I would hope they would respect my own faith and by responding to their open questioning a little assertively and repetitively usually does the trick no problem.

[Peevemor]

One or two ex-JWs I know, including a very close pal often seem emotionally and mentally scarred by their experiences. Quite difficult for them to talk about too. That particular friend left the JWs many, many years ago and his sister has refused to speak to him ever since, stating that she is 'not allowed' to as he left the Brotherhood. He has an absolute hatred for them now and to some extent all religion.

It's often find that JWs move from casual job to job and situation to situation in order to spread the word more widely. A typical example was a cleaning person who worked in a large building where I worked. Friendly and personable, within minutes the conversation would always inevitably turn to the same familiar subject. It's why they are there in those environments, it's their duty to spread the word.

They hold details of all homes in the area they operate in and it is recorded when you've had a visit and the outcome. Visits to homes are scheduled on a rota I'm told.

I've personally never had a problem at the front door with them. Expressing that I'm a Catholic and that I would hope they would respect my own faith and by responding to their open questioning a little assertively and repetitively usually does the trick no problem.They definitely have something on file somewhere for our address, as they always speak English regardless of who answers our door (my wife and daughters are French).

[Keith_M]

....he cut himself off from all his non JW friends and acquaintances, which I believe is encouraged, ...


No, it's not


,,,stating that she is 'not allowed' to as he left the Brotherhood.....

Not true.


,...
They hold details of all homes in the area they operate in and it is recorded when you've had a visit and the outcome,,,.

That's actually against the law, so they stopped doing that years ago

[stu in nottingham]

Not true.

That's actually against the law, so they stopped doing that years ago




Yes I know thanks. Are you trying to tell me you know what she said to her brother?

Yes i work with GDPR etc. every day thanks. My information is different to yours.

[Keith_M]

Yes I know thanks. Are you trying to tell me you know what she said to her brother?


No, I mean that what she said wasn't true, in that they are not told to cut off links to 'non believers'. That is not one of their doctrines.

They invariably spend more time with their fellow believers but consider family to be very important.

[stu in nottingham]

No, I mean that what she said wasn't true, in that they are not told to cut off links to 'non believers'. That is not one of their doctrines.

They invariably spend more time with their fellow believers but consider family to be very important.

Yes, I knew that too thanks.

[Keith_M]

Regarding their beliefs:

I've always found them no more weird than, say, the beliefs of Roman Catholicism or Islam.

Though, to be fair, you are a lot less likely to be killed by a JW, as they tend to practice their beliefs a bit more strongly ('Thou shalt not kill', and all that stuff)

[Pretty Boy]

No, it's not



Not true.



That's actually against the law, so they stopped doing that years ago

I can only go on what the guy told his friends and family.

He said he had been encouraged to move on from his worldly friends as it would affront God for him not to do so. He wasn't forbidden from seeing them or anything as far as I'm aware but simply believed it was better to spend as much time as possible with fellow witnesses and was encouraged in that line of thought.

[Keith_M]

Yes, I knew that too thanks.


Just making it clear, as it was the second post that kind of inferred they did that as a matter of policy


Sorry if that bothers you, I didn't realise you'd get so touchy about it

:greengrin

[Keith_M]

I can only go on what the guy told his friends and family.

He said he had been encouraged to move on from his worldly friends as it would affront God for him not to do so. He wasn't forbidden from seeing them or anything as far as I'm aware but simply believed it was better to spend as much time as possible with fellow witnesses and was encouraged in that line of thought.


Fair enough. As I said in the other post, I was just clarifying the facts, in case anybody thought it was actually their policy

:aok:

But yes, as I also mentioned, they invariably spend more time with believers than non-believers, which is a bit sad, really.

[Bostonhibby]

One or two ex-JWs I know, including a very close pal often seem emotionally and mentally scarred by their experiences. Quite difficult for them to talk about too. That particular friend left the JWs many, many years ago and his sister has refused to speak to him ever since, stating that she is 'not allowed' to as he left the Brotherhood. He has an absolute hatred for them now and to some extent all religion.

It's often find that JWs move from casual job to job and situation to situation in order to spread the word more widely. A typical example was a cleaning person who worked in a large building where I worked. Friendly and personable, within minutes the conversation would always inevitably turn to the same familiar subject. It's why they are there in those environments, it's their duty to spread the word.

They hold details of all homes in the area they operate in and it is recorded when you've had a visit and the outcome. Visits to homes are scheduled on a rota I'm told.

I've personally never had a problem at the front door with them. Expressing that I'm a Catholic and that I would hope they would respect my own faith and by responding to their open questioning a little assertively and repetitively usually does the trick no problem.I found myself being challenged by a JW who cold called at our front door, he was an elderly gent and polite.

I told him I wasn't religious and preferred not to discuss other peoples religion on the doorstep, inevitably he asks the open question about why I'm not religious. I'm a committed atheist but preferred to politely send him packing.

A good time later he was back at the door asking for my wife by her first name.

She spoke to him at the door then sheepishly told me that he'd recently spoken to her when she was in the garden but she never gave him her name.

She wasn't comfortable telling an elderly person to sling his hook so when he appeared at the door again some weeks later with a colleague yours truly had to be firm but direct, they insisted I had given our names and agreed to a visit which definitely wasn't true, to me they're just employing sales techniques that perhaps vulnerable or gullible people are going to find harder to say no to.

The icing on the cake is our new neighbour turns out to be one so I'm thinking of holding druid rituals in the front garden just so they get the message[emoji6]

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[stu in nottingham]

Just making it clear, as it was the second post that kind of inferred they did that as a matter of policy


Sorry if that bothers you, I didn't realise you'd get so touchy about it

:greengrin

I'm not touchy about it at all keith. Maybe your imagination mate. :wink:

[McD]

In 5 and a half years in this house, I think I’ve had them at the door 3 times (I live about 2 miles from the Kingdom Hall (is that the right term?) in Livingston. Each time they’ve been polite and encouraged me to join them in a celebration of something (apologies, I don’t wish to sound disrespectful, I just can’t remember the details), and each time gave me a leaflet to provide more details

[patch1875]

Remember the Mormons coming round the doors when I was a boy 2 well dressed and very tall Americans.

Sure they had a big house in Inverleith but not anymore I think.

[The 90+2]

I went to see The Book of Mormon in New York a few years ago, while I’m sure it’s not a great description of Mormonism, it was absolutely brilliant.

Definitely the worst thing I’ve ever heard you say 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[The 90+2]

Always felt sorry for the JW laddie at the Inch growing up, boy had no chance man and Christmas must have been torture. Every single time he came out for football or that people would sing the Hovis tune. He became a boxer and dropped the religion when he was 16 and for that his parents disowned him. Weird ****ers, kids should be before everything.

[hibsbollah]

Always felt sorry for the JW laddie at the Inch growing up, boy had no chance man and Christmas must have been torture. Every single time he came out for football or that people would sing the Hovis tune. He became a boxer and dropped the religion when he was 16 and for that his parents disowned him. Weird ****ers, kids should be before everything.

Excuse my ignorance but what’s the New World Symphony got to do with Jehovahs Witnesses?

[greenlex]

Excuse my ignorance but what’s the New World Symphony got to do with Jehovahs Witnesses?

I’m guessing JeHovis Witness. Kids eh?

[The 90+2]

I’m guessing JeHovis Witness. Kids eh?

Correct. Shan as anything at time.

[lord bunberry]

I found myself being challenged by a JW who cold called at our front door, he was an elderly gent and polite.

I told him I wasn't religious and preferred not to discuss other peoples religion on the doorstep, inevitably he asks the open question about why I'm not religious. I'm a committed atheist but preferred to politely send him packing.

A good time later he was back at the door asking for my wife by her first name.

She spoke to him at the door then sheepishly told me that he'd recently spoken to her when she was in the garden but she never gave him her name.

She wasn't comfortable telling an elderly person to sling his hook so when he appeared at the door again some weeks later with a colleague yours truly had to be firm but direct, they insisted I had given our names and agreed to a visit which definitely wasn't true, to me they're just employing sales techniques that perhaps vulnerable or gullible people are going to find harder to say no to.

The icing on the cake is our new neighbour turns out to be one so I'm thinking of holding druid rituals in the front garden just so they get the message[emoji6]

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I had a similar experience with them. My partner answered the door to them when I was out and instead of telling them she wasn’t interested she let them waffle on for a bit. They came back a while later and I answered the door, they asked for my partner by name. I told them she wasn’t in, which was true. When she did come home I told her they’d been and she told me about their previous visit. The last time they came we were both at home and she told me to tell them she wasn’t interested in speaking to them, they practically told me that I was being a dominant male and suppressing my partners right to talk to them. They were not so politely told to leave and never come back.

[NOLA]

Just tell them your a Pagan, they won’t be back in a hurry, or politely hold up your hand and inform them that if you want to seek the truth hidden in the bible you’ll do so yourself whenever you choose to [emoji106]

[stu in nottingham]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jehovahs-witnesses-religion-christianity-religious-group-what-it-a7214966.html

'He also described how his family now refused to acknowledge him and his wife after they left the group.Those who leave the faith are called "apostates" and are " disfellowshipped", a term for formal expulsion and shunning, where members are "prohibited from talking, and even from saying 'hello' to them", according to Ohmyjw.

In one situation where an elder started to lose his faith and challenge the group, he said they allegedly denounced him and spread gossip about him, pressuring him "so much he jumped into a river and killed himself".'

[Peevemor]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jehovahs-witnesses-religion-christianity-religious-group-what-it-a7214966.html

'He also described how his family now refused to acknowledge him and his wife after they left the group.Those who leave the faith are called "apostates" and are " disfellowshipped", a term for formal expulsion and shunning, where members are "prohibited from talking, and even from saying 'hello' to them", according to Ohmyjw.

In one situation where an elder started to lose his faith and challenge the group, he said they allegedly denounced him and spread gossip about him, pressuring him "so much he jumped into a river and killed himself".'



Far be it for me to defend any religion, but if we start digging up nasty stuff done in the name of the more established faiths we'll never be finished.

[stu in nottingham]

Far be it for me to defend any religion, but if we start digging up nasty stuff done in the name of the more established faiths we'll never be finished.

Why stop at faiths. Non-faiths aren't doing that well either.

[Hibrandenburg]

Far be it for me to defend any religion, but if we start digging up nasty stuff done in the name of the more established faiths we'll never be finished.

Maybe we should be doing exactly that.

[patch1875]

Just tell them your a Pagan, they won’t be back in a hurry, or politely hold up your hand and inform them that if you want to seek the truth hidden in the bible you’ll do so yourself whenever you choose to [emoji106]


or tell them your ex JW they are not allowed to speak to you.

[Jim44]

This thread about Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormonism brought back memories of a holiday in Canada about 30 years ago. Before going on holiday, I had just watched a really interesting film, starring Harrison Ford, called Witness involving the Ammish religion. We visited a town called St Joseph’s which was predominantly Mennonite, similar to Ammish. It was fascinating to see folk going about their business in horse and carts and wearing their traditional clothes, although I think their strict religious rules were easing a bit and cars were plentiful. In the film, there were scenes of co-operative barn building and while we were in St Joseph’s we stumbled across this very thing. As a wee aside, my Canadian nephew had just been telling me about car registrations in Canada, where you can actually invent ( within reason ) your own number plate. I was amused to see, in St Jacob’s, an old VW Beetle which had been customised into a pink pig, with the plate, O1NK.

[stu in nottingham]

This thread about Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormonism brought back memories of a holiday in Canada about 30 years ago. Before going on holiday, I had just watched a really interesting film, starring Harrison Ford, called Witness involving the Ammish religion. We visited a town called St Joseph’s which was predominantly Mennonite, similar to Ammish. It was fascinating to see folk going about their business in horse and carts and wearing their traditional clothes, although I think their strict religious rules were easing a bit and cars were plentiful. In the film, there were scenes of co-operative barn building and while we were in St Joseph’s we stumbled across this very thing. As a wee aside, my Canadian nephew had just been telling me about car registrations in Canada, where you can actually invent ( within reason ) your own number plate. I was amused to see, in St Jacob’s, an old VW Beetle which had been customised into a pink pig, with the plate, O1NK.

Visited St Jacob's in Ontario myself a few years ago Jim. Lovely little place. Really interesting and was very impressed with the welcoming and friendly Mennonite people there too. it was good to have a litte insight into their way of life. Witness is a great film too.

[hibsbollah]

This thread about Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormonism brought back memories of a holiday in Canada about 30 years ago. Before going on holiday, I had just watched a really interesting film, starring Harrison Ford, called Witness involving the Ammish religion. We visited a town called St Joseph’s which was predominantly Mennonite, similar to Ammish. It was fascinating to see folk going about their business in horse and carts and wearing their traditional clothes, although I think their strict religious rules were easing a bit and cars were plentiful. In the film, there were scenes of co-operative barn building and while we were in St Joseph’s we stumbled across this very thing. As a wee aside, my Canadian nephew had just been telling me about car registrations in Canada, where you can actually invent ( within reason ) your own number plate. I was amused to see, in St Jacob’s, an old VW Beetle which had been customised into a pink pig, with the plate, O1NK.

It wasn’t that long ago when a visit to the Western Isles wasn’t complete without the playparks being shut on a Sunday, all the locals going indoors and reading The Good Book, and any attempt at outdoor activities by tourists, even if it be just hanging up your laundry outside, was met with menacing frowns from auld corbies dressed head to toe in black. Now even the ferries run on a Sunday.

it’s interesting how we like to ethnically cleanse our religious oddities but if they’re in a Harrison Ford movie they are something quaint and deserving of preservation :tumble:

[marinello59]

It wasn’t that long ago when a visit to the Western Isles wasn’t complete without the playparks being shut on a Sunday, all the locals going indoors and reading The Good Book, and any attempt at outdoor activities by tourists, even if it be just hanging up your laundry outside, was met with menacing frowns from auld corbies dressed head to toe in black. Now even the ferries run on a Sunday.

it’s interesting how we like to ethnically cleanse our religious oddities but if they’re in a Harrison Ford movie they are something quaint and deserving of preservation :tumble:

You obviously didn’t know the knock that got you in to the local bars on a Sunday :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

You obviously didn’t know the knock that got you in to the local bars on a Sunday :greengrin

That’s the Islay lot, drunken heathen savages :greengrin

[marinello59]

That’s the Islay lot, drunken heathen savages :greengrin

Ach, the Ileachs never let the Sabbath get in the way of a good party.:greengrin

[Peevemor]

Ach, the Ileachs never let the Sabbath get in the way of a good party.:greengrinEspecially if there was a ferry running with a bar on it!

[marinello59]

Especially if there was a ferry running with a bar on it!

:greengrin

[Keith_M]

I knew a couple that were originally from the Isle of Lewis and her Dad was a pastor (if that's the right term) in the Free Church of Scotland (the Wee Frees).

She told me that if they had to travel to her parents on a Sunday, the Ferries to Lewis don't run on The Sabbath, so they had to get one to Harris and drive up.

When her parents visited her in Alva, they used to have to go round the house and remove any items that her Dad could find remotely offensive (Christmas Trees(?), photos with anybody not fully dressed, etc) in case they got 'The Lecture'.


I used to think she made all this stuff up... until I met her Dad.

:greengrin

[heretoday]

You can tell JWs a mile off. They all wear weird shoes and walk slowly but deliberately in pairs.

[Scouse Hibee]

or tell them your ex JW they are not allowed to speak to you.

Just tell them to **** off, the same I would tell any clown that knocked st my door trying to peddle any religion.