Goal line technology

[Monts]

Obviously it is great to have it in the game, as it verifies the most important part of the game.

But how typical was it that hearts would be the first team to benefit from it.

Just glad it didn't matter in the end.

[jacomo]

It really is a no brainer, as it’s a clear matter of fact.

The ref pointed to his watch to indicate it had buzzed to confirm the goal but he might have awarded it anyway. Or, if Christie blocked it with his hand, he might have got sent off and Hearts awarded a penalty, which would have been worse for Celtc.

[where'stheslope]

Obviously it is great to have it in the game, as it verifies the most important part of the game.

But how typical was it that hearts would be the first team to benefit from it.

Just glad it didn't matter in the end.
Strange analogy of it?
If the goal was not given it would have been a penalty and Christie would be sent off!!!
Remember the goal line official would have seen it all, and Celtic would have been playing with 10 men for the rest of the game!!!

[Carheenlea]

Goal line technology is a no brainier. Hard to tell immediately if the ball was in but they were quickly able to verify without impacting the flow and emotion of the passage of play.
In stark contrast to the laboured time outs to examine offsides or handballs not visible to the naked eye. I’m all for his technology but stop short at wishing to see VAR in our game.

[Diclonius]

After ball line technology is introduced in the top division the first team to have a goal awarded for it will be Hearts in the Edinburgh derby.

The script is written.

[Nicho87]

Always been in favour of goal line technology. That’s all, nothing else.

[blackpoolhibs]

Strange analogy of it?
If the goal was not given it would have been a penalty and Christie would be sent off!!!
Remember the goal line official would have seen it all, and Celtic would have been playing with 10 men for the rest of the game!!!

I have no idea what the rules are now, is it a straight red or is there not this double jeopardy where you can’t be punished twice? I have no idea if that’s for this foul, or bringing a player down, or I’m just talking pish as usual?

[Monts]

Strange analogy of it?
If the goal was not given it would have been a penalty and Christie would be sent off!!!
Remember the goal line official would have seen it all, and Celtic would have been playing with 10 men for the rest of the game!!!

The ref didn't stop play until his buzzer went off. He wasn't giving a penalty.

[Monts]

I have no idea what the rules are now, is it a straight red or is there not this double jeopardy where you can’t be punished twice? I have no idea if that’s for this foul, or bringing a player down, or I’m just talking pish as usual?

Double jeopardy only applies if you are making a genuine attempt to play the ball.

[where'stheslope]

The ref didn't stop play until his buzzer went off. He wasn't giving a penalty.
The goal line official would then have to stop play by signaling the ref, but only if he had seen it.

[Monts]

The goal line official would then have to stop play by signaling the ref, but only if he had seen it.

Replay of the goal (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/55336250?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5fdf73835afdc802c37f9666%26Watch%3A%20 Kingsley%27s%20header%20draws%20Hearts%20level%262 020-12-20T15%3A54%3A26.791Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:2bfe6fb5-35ff-4875-86eb-fd93736f5cef&pinned_post_asset_id=5fdf73835afdc802c37f9666&pinned_post_type=share)

The ball was in hearts half before the whistle was blown. There wasn't going to be a penalty given.

[blackpoolhibs]

Double jeopardy only applies if you are making a genuine attempt to play the ball.

How would that apply to yesterday's attempt to keep the ball out of the net?

[Monts]

How would that apply to yesterday's attempt to keep the ball out of the net?

Deliberate handball doesn't count as a genuine attempt to play the ball.

[blackpoolhibs]

Was it deliberate?

[where'stheslope]

Replay of the goal (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/55336250?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5fdf73835afdc802c37f9666%26Watch%3A%20 Kingsley%27s%20header%20draws%20Hearts%20level%262 020-12-20T15%3A54%3A26.791Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:2bfe6fb5-35ff-4875-86eb-fd93736f5cef&pinned_post_asset_id=5fdf73835afdc802c37f9666&pinned_post_type=share)
Thank you for that, you clearly see the goal line official pointing to the centre spot.

[Monts]

Replay of the goal (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/55336250?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5fdf73835afdc802c37f9666%26Watch%3A%20 Kingsley%27s%20header%20draws%20Hearts%20level%262 020-12-20T15%3A54%3A26.791Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:2bfe6fb5-35ff-4875-86eb-fd93736f5cef&pinned_post_asset_id=5fdf73835afdc802c37f9666&pinned_post_type=share)
Thank you for that, you clearly see the goal line official pointing to the centre spot.

Clearly? Certainly not clear from that video. You see him beginning to lift his arm 3 seconds after the incident while being ran at by hearts players.

Regardless if the official gave the goal, the ref was not giving a penalty.

[worcesterhibby]

I'd love to hear from anyone who thinks the current situation with handball rules and VAR is better than the rules we had for about 50 years. Other than Thierry Henry's famous cheating...there really wasn't much of a problem to be fixed...everything that has been done since, has just made the situation worse. I would propose that...

1) most supporters, players and even some referees no longer actually know what the rule is and certainly not a single pundit in Scotland and very few in England have a clue.
2) far more "unfair" penalty's have now been given against people who have had the ball smashed against their hand from about 3 yards away than "wrongs have been righted" where players have used their hands to stop a goal attempt.
3) We now have a different set of rules for defenders and attackers..which is just nonsensical.

[brog]

I'm really glad the goal was given. We would be in court for the next 10 years otherwise!!

[hibbysam]

It wasn’t even a handball, Christie got his chest round to clear it, it wouldn’t have went over the line had he ‘saved’ it with his hand. Very good attempt at a clearance that just failed.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Always been in favour of goal line technology. That’s all, nothing else.

:agree:

The difference is that goal line technology is a matter of fact. Everything that VAR looks at is open to interpretation to some degree.

Almost like when they invented football 150 years ago the rules weren't written up to have every incident examined under a microscope.

Long live human error.

[ancient hibee]

Except what happened recently in England when the goalie took the ball over the line when catching a cross but the camera did not have a clear view
The ref and linesman were in perfect position but refused to give the goal.Crazy.

[BILLYHIBS]

What about Sparky’s goal against the Hearts at Easter Road?


Petrie!