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Kinross Hibee
27-12-2020, 10:00 AM
Just because the manager picks him it doesn’t mean folk can’t have a different opinion surely..
There wouldn’t be much to discuss on here if we couldn’t discuss players, tactics, refereeing decisions etc because these people know better.
Well said. Some people have permanent blinkers on when it comes to other people's opinions, they don't matter or are incorrect. Mainly when it comes to sport, religion or politics. And evidently, DREY WRIGHT 😂
GreenCastle
27-12-2020, 10:05 AM
Folk need to understand he’s not playing in his natural position.
He’s a right midfielder !
Shove Boyle on left / left wing back and see how he does..not sure if link below works..this is Wright at his best.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=831156597330333&_rdr
https://twitter.com/premiersportstv/status/1234142236494958592?s=21
https://youtu.be/0UoMAUilbpE (1 min 5 seconds)
calumhibee1
27-12-2020, 10:10 AM
Folk need to understand he’s not playing in his natural position.
He’s a right midfielder !
Shove Boyle on left / left wing back and see how he does..not sure if link below works..this is Wright at his best.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=831156597330333&_rdr
https://twitter.com/premiersportstv/status/1234142236494958592?s=21
https://youtu.be/0UoMAUilbpE (1 min 5 seconds)
It’s going to take more than a shot that pulled a fairly comfortable save and a screamer from over 6 years ago to convince a lot of folk he’s good enough. He needs to start offering more for us, what he’s done elsewhere is largely irrelevant.
The first video you posted shows he can clearly offer something going forward at this level - we need some of that from him because he’s not offered nearly enough of it so far.
hibsbollah
27-12-2020, 10:10 AM
If we’re talking about all players that a team signs then it’s not 9/10, I’d agree.
The post was talking about good players though and imo you don’t see good players taking half a season or so to settle in 50% of the time.
If someone is a good player they generally show it if not straight away then after a few games. I can’t think of many players I’ve seen at Hibs that I’d consider to have been good players that have needed half a season or so to find their feet. There’ll be some, but not too many.
Using yesterday’s starting 11 as an example I’d say:
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Nisbet
Possibly Boyle to an extent as well all ‘hit the ground running’ to varying degrees.
That leaves Hallberg, Wright and Newell who struggled and out of they 3 I fancy that Newell will be the only one I’ll look back on as a particularly good player
Just off the top of my head Jason Cummings, Newell and Claros took a good long time to come good, and became real standout players. I still don’t think 9/10 of even top players will show what they can do straightaway, but you may just have been using hyperbole there. Lots of Jason Cummings , Joe Newells and Jorge Claroses out there.
Going back to Drey Wright, I think the point is hes always been given 25 mins here, 65 mins there, either coming on as a sub or being replaced usually to accommodate a change of shape swapping with macgennis or to make way for Doidge. I can’t remember the last time he was given 90 minutes, has he even had a full game before? So around a dozen bitty appearances off the bench isn’t enough time for me (and I’m sure for Ross) to be sure. He definitely made an impact a game a few weeks ago (Arabs? Can’t actually remember).
GreenCastle
27-12-2020, 10:16 AM
It’s going to take more than a shot that pulled a fairly comfortable save and a screamer from over 6 years ago to convince a lot of folk he’s good enough. He needs to start offering more for us.
The first video you posted shows he can clearly offer something going forward at this level - we need some of that from him because he’s not offered nearly enough of it so far.
I personally would like to see more from him but it’s hard to know what instructions he has been given for the team.
Compare to Doig / Boyle yesterday and the effect he had and I can only remember a small positive attacking contribution in 2nd half. I know we were up against it at times but 2nd half we needed more creativity.
He showed earlier in season he can be involved but needs the ball / needs to be in areas the ball is passed to him.
I want to give him some time - Murphy got injured at a time he started to play well annoyingly, but that’s given others a chance to play. It’s rare you get a team with all 11 standing out. Teams have players who do a job and it gets unnoticed- but an attacking player should be showing some lthing surely ?
Our midfield does need to give more to take us next level - that means assists or goals. Hallberg / Newell and Wright all need to add this. Gogic I don’t expect that from but others need to chip in. That’s what Mallan and Allan do add.
Vault Boy
27-12-2020, 10:19 AM
Folk need to understand he’s not playing in his natural position.
He’s a right midfielder !
Shove Boyle on left / left wing back and see how he does..not sure if link below works..this is Wright at his best.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=831156597330333&_rdr
https://twitter.com/premiersportstv/status/1234142236494958592?s=21
https://youtu.be/0UoMAUilbpE (1 min 5 seconds)
I thought Drey played well yesterday, in a selfless role, and has shown promise playing in a more defensive position - but I think these clips are perhaps an example of why he's not done so well further up the pitch. One of the clips is from a
game 6/7 years ago, and the other two don't show a goal or assist between them.
Drey has played 43 matches in all comps these last two seasons, scoring 1 goal and assisting 3. The majority of those games have been on the left or right wing, he's played as a number 10 a few times too. He's got ability and I'm not one to bash him or write him off, but I think there's plenty of evidence that he's not going to be a prolific forward player. If he can be repurposed as a wing back, fullback, or more of a box to box wide player, then I think that's a good thing, as he's not shown the attacking aptitude needed to start ahead of Murphy or Boyle.
calumhibee1
27-12-2020, 10:21 AM
Just off the top of my head Jason Cummings, Newell and Claros took a good long time to come good, and became real standout players. I still don’t think 9/10 of even top players will show what they can do straightaway, but you may just have been using hyperbole there. Lots of Jason Cummings , Joe Newells and Jorge Claroses out there.
Going back to Drey Wright, I think the point is hes always been given 25 mins here, 65 mins there, either coming on as a sub or being replaced usually to accommodate a change of shape swapping with macgennis or to make way for Doidge. I can’t remember the last time he was given 90 minutes, has he even had a full game before? So around a dozen bitty appearances off the bench isn’t enough time for me (and I’m sure for Ross) to be sure. He definitely made an impact a game a few weeks ago (Arabs? Can’t actually remember).
The fact you’ve had to go back to Claros who didn’t hit the ground running nearly 9 years ago and Cummings who broke through as a 17/18 year old in a team that got relegated 7 years ago says it all imo. I’d hazard a guess if I made a list of all the players I’ve considered to have been good for Hibs in the nearly 10 years since then that it probably would work out that about 90% of them didn’t take too long at all to get going so I don’t think it is hyperbole - I do actually reckon that about 90% of players who have been good for Hibs have shown it pretty quickly and I’d imagine it’s the same for most sides.
Wright has made 18 appearances so far with 11 of them starts so he’s had a decent amount of opportunity. I’m not sure you could argue he’s deserved much more than that given the level of performances he’s given.
hibsbollah
27-12-2020, 10:22 AM
I thought Drey played well yesterday, in a selfless role, and has shown promise playing in a more defensive position - but I think these clips are perhaps an example of why he's not done so well further up the pitch. One of the clips is from a
game 6/7 years ago, and the other two don't show a goal or assist between them.
Drey has played 43 matches in all comps these last two seasons, scoring 1 goal and assisting 3. The majority of those games have been on the left or right wing, he's played as a number 10 a few times too. He's got ability and I'm not one to bash him or write him off, but I think there's plenty of evidence that he's not going to be a prolific forward player. If he can be repurposed as a wing back, fullback, or more of a box to box wide player, then I think that's a good thing, as he's not shown the attacking aptitude needed to start ahead of Murphy or Boyle.
:agree: Good point.
Prof. Shaggy
27-12-2020, 10:22 AM
Because no Hibs manager has ever got it wrong, right enough.
On average I expect Hibs managers get it wrong fewer times than folk on Hibs.net do.
The 90+2
27-12-2020, 10:58 AM
On average I expect Hibs managers get it wrong fewer times than folk on Hibs.net do.
That is completely debatable between 2008 and 2014 :agree:
Prof. Shaggy
27-12-2020, 11:35 AM
That is completely debatable between 2008 and 2014 :agree:
Maybe. That's why I wrote 'on average'.
Unseen work
27-12-2020, 11:44 AM
I can hardly remember Barisic or Kent doing anything yesterday, that is largely down to Wright so for that reason I think he done well.
On the ball he had one good driving run in the second half and it made me question why he doesn’t do it more.
Couple of poor touches here and there but given the conditions it’s go he excepted.
Can hold his head high after that performance and effort as far as I’m concerned.
CMurdoch
27-12-2020, 11:56 AM
Because no Hibs manager has ever got it wrong, right enough.
It's not any Hibs manager. It's the pragmatic Jack Ross.
Dalianwanda
27-12-2020, 12:03 PM
Because no Hibs manager has ever got it wrong, right enough.
And no one on here is the manager of a top league professional football team.
Brightside
27-12-2020, 12:06 PM
Where did he play for St Johnstone?
His performances at us so far have looked more like a full back being played out of position than a wide midfielder/winger. The fact the praise that people give him is based on keeping attacking players quite kind of adds to that.
Was he a winger there?
Right Midfield. and as far as stats are concerned he will go down as playing at RB yesterday.
calumhibee1
27-12-2020, 12:12 PM
And no one on here is the manager of a top league professional football team.
What does that matter?
We’re not players at top league professional football teams,
We’re not managers at top league professional football teams,
We’re not referees at top league level
Is it now a prerequisite that you have to be equal to or above the level of the player/manager/referee that’s being discussed to have an opinion :confused:
Robbo6-2
27-12-2020, 12:15 PM
What does that matter?
We’re not players at top league professional football teams,
We’re not managers at top league professional football teams,
We’re not referees at top league level
Is it now a prerequisite that you have to be equal to or above the level of the player/manager/referee that’s being discussed to have an opinion :confused:
It only matters when your opinion is negative and not in agreement with the Happy Clapper
Since90+2
27-12-2020, 12:18 PM
He's alright, not great not abysmal.
Our budget dictates you need a good few players around his level that can cover multiple positions and he does that.
Brightside
27-12-2020, 12:22 PM
It only matters when your opinion is negative and not in agreement with the Happy Clapper
No need for the happy clapper comments. If you are going to critique a player though it surely matters how he performs based on what the manager is asking of him, not on what the punters want to see? He is nothing like Martin Boyle. never had been, never will be. He has never been a dynamic final 3rd player.
Mr. Wonderful
27-12-2020, 12:23 PM
I don't mind Drey Wright but he's now becoming the latest in a long line of criticised players described on hibs.net (in his defence) of doing "unseen work"
I take it almost as a players version of the dreaded vote of confidence, as I've never seen a player recover and go on to have a good career with us from that point.
Hiber-nation
27-12-2020, 12:24 PM
Did a job yesterday and did it pretty well but was signed for his attacking threat and hasn't showed that yet. Still seems unrecognisable from the player I saw at McDiarmid a couple of years ago but as mentioned before, maybe because he can't get a run in his best position which will usually be filled by Martin Boyle. Hope he can improve.
Brightside
27-12-2020, 12:30 PM
I don't mind Drey Wright but he's now becoming the latest in a long line of criticised players described on hibs.net (in his defence) of doing "unseen work"
I take it almost as a players version of the dreaded vote of confidence, as I've never seen a player recover and go on to have a good career with us from that point.
Like Hallberg?
Brightside
27-12-2020, 12:34 PM
Did a job yesterday and did it pretty well but was signed for his attacking threat and hasn't showed that yet. Still seems unrecognisable from the player I saw at McDiarmid a couple of years ago but as mentioned before, maybe because he can't get a run in his best position which will usually be filled by Martin Boyle. Hope he can improve.
But he wasnt..... hes hardly every played as a winger. Everyone has just assumed that. At StJ last season - RM 16 app, RW 5 app. 1 goal. At Hibs. 3 at RM, 2 LM, 1 CM, 1 RB. 1 goal
superfurryhibby
27-12-2020, 12:43 PM
But he wasnt..... hes hardly every played as a winger. Everyone has just assumed that. At StJ last season - RM 16 app, RW 5 app. 1 goal. At Hibs. 3 at RM, 2 LM, 1 CM, 1 RB. 1 goal
What’s the difference between right midfield and wing? Assuming the formations mean you play as a wide player regardless of the label ? Surely both attack and defend according to the flow of the game. Is Boyle a winger or a wide midfielder?
Hiber-nation
27-12-2020, 12:44 PM
But he wasnt..... hes hardly every played as a winger. Everyone has just assumed that. At StJ last season - RM 16 app, RW 5 app. 1 goal. At Hibs. 3 at RM, 2 LM, 1 CM, 1 RB. 1 goal
Right midfield then...what difference does it make, he was wide right and not a full back. I wasn't really interested in what formation St Johnstone were playing, although I assumed Tommy Wright played 4-4-2 in almost every game. Formations can change during a game.
B.H.F.C
27-12-2020, 12:45 PM
But he wasnt..... hes hardly every played as a winger. Everyone has just assumed that. At StJ last season - RM 16 app, RW 5 app. 1 goal. At Hibs. 3 at RM, 2 LM, 1 CM, 1 RB. 1 goal
When did he ever play right back for us?
hibee-boys
27-12-2020, 12:50 PM
For me the likes of Hallberg and Wright are useful squad players who can cover a number of positions when called upon. They won’t be regular starters should everyone be fit, haven’t seen Wright offer much going forward as yet but always gives 100%.
Since90+2
27-12-2020, 12:55 PM
For me the likes of Hallberg and Wright are useful squad players who can cover a number of positions when called upon. They won’t be regular starters should everyone be fit, haven’t seen Wright offer much going forward as yet but always gives 100%.
Hallberg is better than Wright IMO. Technically he is quite abit above Wright for me.
B.H.F.C
27-12-2020, 12:56 PM
What’s the difference between right midfield and wing? Assuming the formations mean you play as a wide player regardless of the label ? Surely both attack and defend according to the flow of the game. Is Boyle a winger or a wide midfielder?
Whatever position he plays there should be an expectation on him to provide an attacking threat. He’s rarely done that. It’s the lack of intent to try and do it that gets me. He always seems content to simply pass the ball inside to whoever is nearest. He tried to run Barasic once in the whole game yesterday, did him for pace and won a corner. But that was the only time he got the ball and tried to be positive. Compare that to Doig, playing the same position on the other side.
Whatever anyone wants to call those positions there is an expectation to attack. Look at Paul McGinn when he plays on the right of a back four.
Brightside
27-12-2020, 01:30 PM
When did he ever play right back for us?
Rangers yesterday. RWB is classed as RB in stats. Difference between RW and RM is an RW does the majority of work in opponents half. RM has 50/50 responsibilities.
B.H.F.C
27-12-2020, 01:35 PM
Rangers yesterday. RWB is classed as RB in stats. Difference between RW and RM is an RW does the majority of work in opponents half. RM has 50/50 responsibilities.
Aye but what does it matter what it’s classed in stats? We all watched it and know he wasn’t playing right back.
BSEJVT
27-12-2020, 01:35 PM
🤣 Knew my comment would draw a Drey Wright appreciation team post from Mrs Yarns 🙂
Equally predictable then as another baseless attempt from you at criticising a player who did well yesterday.
The thing about some folk is that once they start pedalling an agenda, they feel obliged to continue it despite evidence to the contrary.
When you start picking the team your opinion will count for something, until then you are just going to have to like it or lump it as Ross clearly rates Drey Wright
ancient hibee
27-12-2020, 01:36 PM
Whatever position he plays there should be an expectation on him to provide an attacking threat. He’s rarely done that. It’s the lack of intent to try and do it that gets me. He always seems content to simply pass the ball inside to whoever is nearest. He tried to run Barasic once in the whole game yesterday, did him for pace and won a corner. But that was the only time he got the ball and tried to be positive. Compare that to Doig, playing the same position on the other side.
Whatever anyone wants to call those positions there is an expectation to attack. Look at Paul McGinn when he plays on the right of a back four.
Has it occurred to you that he was playing the way the manager wanted him to? Perhaps he was told not to push up from the right in order to cover Rangers counter attacking?
B.H.F.C
27-12-2020, 01:41 PM
Has it occurred to you that he was playing the way the manager wanted him to? Perhaps he was told not to push up from the right in order to cover Rangers counter attacking?
I don’t believe for a minute he was asked to go out there and not do any attacking, no.
calumhibee1
27-12-2020, 01:41 PM
When you start picking the team your opinion will count for something, until then you are just going to have to like it or lump it as Ross clearly rates Drey Wright
When on earth did this become a thing? :faf:
We may as well just shut down the forum if you can only have an opinion by being the ‘most qualified’ to give it.
ancient hibee
27-12-2020, 01:42 PM
I don’t believe for a minute he was asked to go out there and not do any attacking, no.
Did you notice how much Ryan Kent was in the game yesterday? There was a reason for that-there was no space for him.
calumhibee1
27-12-2020, 01:43 PM
I don’t believe for a minute he was asked to go out there and not do any attacking, no.
And even if he was, you can guarantee it wasn’t his instructions in his 17 other appearances where he’s offered very little going forward.
I think we’re really starting to clutch at straws when we’re seeing suggestions he wasn’t signed to give an attacking threat because he’s actually an RM and not a RW or that he has been given instructions not to attack. Or even worse, folk suggesting that you shouldn’t have an opinion unless you’re a top tier football manager or you have the same opinion as them.
Regardless, he done a decent job yesterday and should be applauded for that but that job will only be required a few times a season. Every other week he’ll need to show attacking intent, something he’s been nowhere near doing so far.
B.H.F.C
27-12-2020, 01:52 PM
Did you notice how much Ryan Kent was in the game yesterday? There was a reason for that-there was no space for him.
Yes Kent was quiet. Nobody has disputed that Wright contributed defensively. It was another game where he has contributed very little going forward though.
Tavernier, the highest scoring/assisting full back in Europe was also quiet on the other side. Despite contending with that, Doig found the time to pose a threat himself. Two sides to the game.
Kinross Hibee
27-12-2020, 01:52 PM
Equally predictable then as another baseless attempt from you at criticising a player who did well yesterday.
The thing about some folk is that once they start pedalling an agenda, they feel obliged to continue it despite evidence to the contrary.
When you start picking the team your opinion will count for something, until then you are just going to have to like it or lump it as Ross clearly rates Drey Wright
Ohhhh, there's that word again "Agenda". I'm a right b*****d for having an opinion am I not? 🤭😂
We live in a country of free speech, therefore it's you that will have to like it or lump it until that changes 🙂
CMurdoch
27-12-2020, 01:58 PM
Just because the manager picks him it doesn’t mean folk can’t have a different opinion surely..
There wouldn’t be much to discuss on here if we couldn’t discuss players, tactics, refereeing decisions etc because these people know better.
The problem is a lot of folk on hibs.net have opinions that are not nuanced. They are generally partizan and romantic about Hibs and over praise and over criticism in short posts is their norm.
Joe Newell is the man currently being lavished with praise and coincidentally another player folk on here said should be gone. Joe is a good player who is playing well but it is clear that his shooting is appalling but not many folk are pointing that out amongst the praise.
As for Drey Wright who is the man currently being lavished with criticism, I agree he has had a few bad games where he struggled to even pass to his team mates and he has not been an attacking player like folk expected. However, he has played some decent games, take yesterday he did nothing that stood out but that wasn't his role in the team. He was part of the Ross strategy to stifle Rangers and he played his role well. Not a sexy roll and probably not the roll he wanted but the one the team needed from him to and the one he was told to play.
Moving forward I'm not expecting exciting things from Wright with his roll under Ross likely to be a strategic and largely defensive one to ensure the defence is protected but that doesn't mean he can't be an important if understated player for Hibs.
Rest assured If he can't consistently produce what Ross wants he will quickly go the way of Vela, Kamberi, Slivka, Whittaker, Horgan etc.
FWIW I think he will be at Hibs for the remaining 18 months off his contract before moving on.
As ever time will tell.
B.H.F.C
27-12-2020, 02:14 PM
Moving forward I'm not expecting exciting things from Wright with his roll under Ross likely to be a strategic and largely defensive one to ensure the defence is protected but that doesn't mean he can't be an important if understated player for Hibs.
When he signed Ross described him as quick and direct. I don’t think that could be further away from what we’ve seen.
I don’t buy in to the whole idea that he is there to just do a defensive role. At Ibrox, absolutely you’re going to need to defend. But we will be the dominant team in the majority of our games and the only way for him to start winning folk round is by contributing in an attacking sense.
Brightside
27-12-2020, 02:14 PM
And even if he was, you can guarantee it wasn’t his instructions in his 17 other appearances where he’s offered very little going forward.
I think we’re really starting to clutch at straws when we’re seeing suggestions he wasn’t signed to give an attacking threat because he’s actually an RM and not a RW or that he has been given instructions not to attack. Or even worse, folk suggesting that you shouldn’t have an opinion unless you’re a top tier football manager or you have the same opinion as them.
Regardless, he done a decent job yesterday and should be applauded for that but that job will only be required a few times a season. Every other week he’ll need to show attacking intent, something he’s been nowhere near doing so far.
All I’m saying is he is performing almost exactly like he did at St J.
BSEJVT
27-12-2020, 02:30 PM
When on earth did this become a thing? :faf:
We may as well just shut down the forum if you can only have an opinion by being the ‘most qualified’ to give it.
Who said anything like that about being most qualified?
We can each have as many opinions as we like but unless we are the person picking the team they have no effect whatsoever.
What’s so hard to understand about that?
Dalianwanda
27-12-2020, 02:31 PM
What does that matter?
We’re not players at top league professional football teams,
We’re not managers at top league professional football teams,
We’re not referees at top league level
Is it now a prerequisite that you have to be equal to or above the level of the player/manager/referee that’s being discussed to have an opinion :confused:
I was responding to ‘ Because no Hibs manager has ever got it wrong, right enough’...of course they have. Doesn’t mean they don’t have a better idea of things than any of us to judge or use a player. Does that make our opinion any less relevant on a forum, no.
Iggy Pope
27-12-2020, 02:32 PM
The problem is a lot of folk on hibs.net have opinions that are not nuanced. They are generally partizan and romantic about Hibs and over praise and over criticism in short posts is their norm.
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Much prefer partisan and long may that continue. Especially the shorter post in reaction to the debate. Rambling posts don’t offer much. Longer posts are better kept to the factual or historical. IMO.
Other times, folk on Hibs.net appear to publish opinions that appear to be based on some sort of qualification, fact if you like. These are opinions that couldn’t possibly be given substance short of Ron Gordon, Ross, Potter or even Drey Wright himself, the notorious Perthshire grass cutter, outing themselves on here.
CMurdoch
27-12-2020, 02:59 PM
Much prefer partisan and long may that continue. Especially the shorter post in reaction to the debate. Rambling posts don’t offer much. Longer posts are better kept to the factual or historical. IMO.
Other times, folk on Hibs.net appear to publish opinions that appear to be based on some sort of qualification, fact if you like. These are opinions that couldn’t possibly be given substance short of Ron Gordon, Ross, Potter or even Drey Wright himself, the notorious Perthshire grass cutter, outing themselves on here.
Partisan is great but not when it tips into being blind and unreasoning. That's the territory of fools.
Hiber-nation
27-12-2020, 03:18 PM
All I’m saying is he is performing almost exactly like he did at St J.
All I'm saying is not in the games I saw. St Johnstone played a straight lines 4-4-2 every week under Wright didn't they? Anyway, I'm not debating any more, no point.
jacomo
27-12-2020, 04:15 PM
Well said. Some people have permanent blinkers on when it comes to other people's opinions, they don't matter or are incorrect. Mainly when it comes to sport, religion or politics. And evidently, DREY WRIGHT 😂
I think the criticism is that some folk are being well over the top, almost in desperation to find a new boo boy.
Brightside
27-12-2020, 04:22 PM
All I'm saying is not in the games I saw. St Johnstone played a straight lines 4-4-2 every week under Wright didn't they? Anyway, I'm not debating any more, no point.
No they didn’t. He only played as a winger 5 times last season for St J. Jack wasn’t expecting another Boyle but it seems the majority of fans did expect that. I’m happy with his contribution. Murphy isn’t at all like Boyle either but again will bring other qualities.
Northernhibee
27-12-2020, 04:25 PM
Ohhhh, there's that word again "Agenda". I'm a right b*****d for having an opinion am I not? 🤭😂
We live in a country of free speech, therefore it's you that will have to like it or lump it until that changes 🙂
Free speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences. If you post attention seeking trolling pish, then expect to be called out for it as the other person has a right to do.
Besides, a messageboard has its own rules which you agree to when you sign up.
Winston Ingram
27-12-2020, 04:36 PM
Where did he play for St Johnstone?
His performances at us so far have looked more like a full back being played out of position than a wide midfielder/winger. The fact the praise that people give him is based on keeping attacking players quite kind of adds to that.
Was he a winger there?
He played right midfield and right wing.
Northernhibee
27-12-2020, 04:39 PM
I can't remember who earlier said that they seen Drey Wright as a wing back and after the Rangers game, I completely see it as well. His defensive work was very good, he tracks back well, his passing is neat and tidy but he lacks the attacking threat of Martin Boyle. I did wonder what we would do if McGinn picked up a knock as I don't trust that David Gray is at the level required for the top flight anymore (and I say that with a very heavy heart) but he'd be a good option to have in the team as he can play so many positions.
Winston Ingram
27-12-2020, 04:39 PM
Folk need to understand he’s not playing in his natural position.
He’s a right midfielder !
Shove Boyle on left / left wing back and see how he does..not sure if link below works..this is Wright at his best.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=831156597330333&_rdr
https://twitter.com/premiersportstv/status/1234142236494958592?s=21
https://youtu.be/0UoMAUilbpE (1 min 5 seconds)
Boyle is hopeless on the left
B.H.F.C
27-12-2020, 04:43 PM
No they didn’t. He only played as a winger 5 times last season for St J. Jack wasn’t expecting another Boyle but it seems the majority of fans did expect that. I’m happy with his contribution. Murphy isn’t at all like Boyle either but again will bring other qualities.
Jack described him as quick and direct when he signed him. That sounds fairly similar to Boyle. We haven’t seen much of that though. Why would he allude to that if he wasn’t expecting him to show it a bit?
lord bunberry
27-12-2020, 05:00 PM
He’s been disappointing so far, but he played well yesterday. As others have said he’s shown very little as an attacking player, but he’s done ok defensively. He’s a useful guy to have around as he can slot into a few positions when needed. I didn’t think he looked particularly fit in the early games and I’d hope that’s something he’s been working on.
Iggy Pope
27-12-2020, 05:41 PM
Partisan is great but not when it tips into being blind and unreasoning. That's the territory of fools.
Yes. Quite so.
calumhibee1
27-12-2020, 06:08 PM
Jack described him as quick and direct when he signed him. That sounds fairly similar to Boyle. We haven’t seen much of that though. Why would he allude to that if he wasn’t expecting him to show it a bit?
:agree:
There’s quite simply not a chance that we signed a wide midfielder/winger who our manager described as quick and direct and brought him in so he can double up with the full back. We brought him in to offer us something going forward much like Murphy and Boyle.
He done a good job yesterday, but for anything other than an away game against the OF we will be expecting him to offer something in an attacking sense and not just keep the other team quiet.
superfurryhibby
27-12-2020, 06:17 PM
Has it occurred to you that he was playing the way the manager wanted him to? Perhaps he was told not to push up from the right in order to cover Rangers counter attacking?
I think that is entirely possible, given the tactical challenges facing a side where the opponents have fundamentally better footballers than your team overall. You negate the opposition main threats and play to your own strengths. I think Ross got that pretty spot on yesterday. Hibs were well worth a point and a wee bit odd unlucky not to take one.
Mr. Wonderful
27-12-2020, 06:49 PM
Like Hallberg?
Nope. Nobody ever doubted his technical ability as far as I'm aware
Did a job yesterday and did it pretty well but was signed for his attacking threat and hasn't showed that yet. Still seems unrecognisable from the player I saw at McDiarmid a couple of years ago but as mentioned before, maybe because he can't get a run in his best position which will usually be filled by Martin Boyle. Hope he can improve.
Was he signed as competition for Boyle, if so he hasn't got anywhere near the level to push Boyle for his spot. In his Hibs interview he said he can play across the front line and in behind the striker, so far he hasn't shown enough to be considered a starter when all our top players are fit.
Robbo6-2
27-12-2020, 08:04 PM
I think right wing back is his best position.
CMurdoch
27-12-2020, 08:48 PM
When he was leaving St J their gripes about him were different from folks on here.
Their 2 big gripes were lack of end product/stats after getting himself into attacking parts of the pitch and his serious injuries.
Their likes were his work rate, defensive abilities, his attacking trickery and flicks.
On the upside we have seen his work rate and defensive abilities and importantly not his serious injuries.
On the downside we haven't seen his attacking trickery and flicks yet but there is lots of time yet.
Moulin Yarns
27-12-2020, 09:17 PM
Ohhhh, there's that word again "Agenda". I'm a right b*****d for having an opinion am I not? 🤭😂
We live in a country of free speech, therefore it's you that will have to like it or lump it until that changes 🙂
What surprises me about all your posts is the lack of support for any of our players. All there has been is criticism of Drey Wright.
What about Rocky, he never gets out of his own half of the pitch. Totally rubbish, doesn't offer anything in attack. Rarely gets forward, no assists. Boooo, get rid of him.
Brightside
27-12-2020, 09:28 PM
Jack described him as quick and direct when he signed him. That sounds fairly similar to Boyle. We haven’t seen much of that though. Why would he allude to that if he wasn’t expecting him to show it a bit?
“I know I’ll be expected to bring goals and assists, to help bring drive and energy to contribute in the attacking areas, but I also want to build a good relationship with the full-backs and make sure I can offer them some protection.“
We will just have to hope for more assists. He’s certainly doing the 2nd part well.
Kinross Hibee
28-12-2020, 05:22 AM
What surprises me about all your posts is the lack of support for any of our players. All there has been is criticism of Drey Wright.
What about Rocky, he never gets out of his own half of the pitch. Totally rubbish, doesn't offer anything in attack. Rarely gets forward, no assists. Boooo, get rid of him.
Ohhhh my dear Moulin, what an other awfully uninformed nonsense post 🤭 Have a wee look back at the porteous, newell and doig posts following the rangers game, I praised all of them, even mentioned the need for a new contract for newell but of course you wouldn't have noticed that ay? Blinkers well and truly in full use, what's that word used so much in here, Agenda? Think you may have one against me 🤷
bigwheel
28-12-2020, 06:43 AM
Ohhhh my dear Moulin, what an other awfully uninformed nonsense post [emoji2960] Have a wee look back at the porteous, newell and doig posts following the rangers game, I praised all of them, even mentioned the need for a new contract for newell but of course you wouldn't have noticed that ay? Blinkers well and truly in full use, what's that word used so much in here, Agenda? Think you may have one against me [emoji1745]
It surely can’t surprise you that you are getting an adverse reaction by starting (or restarting ?) your posting history on here by slamming one of our players. Also quite a sarcastic tone in your subsequent responses. I don’t want to get involved in this to and fro you guys are having, but it’s certainly not a neutral entry into the forum, that’s for sure....
Why not just take it easy and get involved in some of the chat..rather than be controversial? Just a suggestion..
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PaulSmith
30-12-2020, 06:18 PM
Tonight was one chance too many, an absolutely terrible player who offers nothing other than hope to the opposition.
Kinross Hibee
30-12-2020, 06:19 PM
Sorry to the usual culprits in advance, but that was his worst performance yet!
1875Sean
30-12-2020, 06:20 PM
I’d rather see young Bradley been given a chance, Wright has had enough chances
calumhibee1
30-12-2020, 06:21 PM
He is nothing short of chronic.
And I don’t give a **** if Tommy Wright thinks he’s minted. See if St J want him back in January. If not, loan him out to a Championship side because this isn’t his level.
Steve88
30-12-2020, 06:24 PM
Bargain buy at IKEA
DaveF
30-12-2020, 06:24 PM
A complete waste of a jersey. I couldn't care less how many injuries we have, he should be nowhere near the first team squad.
GreenCastle
30-12-2020, 06:33 PM
That was awful tonight - needs benched until he contributes more.
Fraser Murray would offer more.
Coco Bryce
30-12-2020, 06:33 PM
My son and his pals say he's 'Drey Wright' as cockney rhyming slang when they're playing Fifa.
hfc-1875
30-12-2020, 07:01 PM
He’s absolutely terrible and hopefully never anywhere near a hibs shirt starting again.
B.H.F.C
30-12-2020, 07:06 PM
It’s ok, he wasn’t signed for his attacking threat or anything like that.
Track a few runs at Ibrox and you’re a player....
He offers absolutely nothing.
we are hibs
30-12-2020, 07:07 PM
Constantly passing the ball backwards all evening. Absolutely dreadful and offered nothing.
Smartie
30-12-2020, 07:09 PM
I've defended him but I'm not defending that.
Dreadful tonight.
I reckon he might be a "horses for courses" player - has a role to play for us when we need something defensive, absolutely not what we were needing tonight as he offers too little going forward.
Incredibly not our worst player tonight though, a few were worse.
Booked4Being-Ugly
30-12-2020, 07:09 PM
Can’t think of anything he offers. At one point he passed the ball to young Doig as he was too scared to take a man on or actually create something himself. Dreadful.
HibbyAndy
30-12-2020, 07:11 PM
He's just not very good
calumhibee1
30-12-2020, 07:12 PM
It’s ok, he wasn’t signed for his attacking threat or anything like that.
Track a few runs at Ibrox and you’re a player....
He offers absolutely nothing.
It really says a lot that in just short of 20 appearances that folk have managed to praise our winger for being good at doubling up with a fullback on occasion.
He’s probably our worst signing that we’ve actually been subjected to for more than one or two games since we got relegated
Hiber-nation
30-12-2020, 07:13 PM
It’s ok, he wasn’t signed for his attacking threat or anything like that.
Track a few runs at Ibrox and you’re a player....
He offers absolutely nothing.
Yep, some comical stuff about his Ibrox performance on here. I can't remember seeing a player in a Hibs jersey get so many games and offer so little since Allan O'Brien.
Robbo6-2
30-12-2020, 07:15 PM
He will be the scapegoat tonight but there was alot equally aa bad.
Porteous, Boyle, Diodge, Newell and especially Hallberg were stinking tonight
Pedantic_Hibee
30-12-2020, 07:15 PM
Him and Hallberg are garbage.
B.H.F.C
30-12-2020, 07:17 PM
He will be the scapegoat tonight but there was alot equally aa bad.
Porteous, Boyle, Diodge, Newell and especially Hallberg were stinking tonight
Nobody is just commenting on his performance tonight though.
I agree the rest were rotten, but they all have a bit credit in the bank.
The Captain....
30-12-2020, 07:22 PM
Ive tried hard to give him the benefit of the doubt but the reality is he is well short of the standard required. He's filled in playing a number of positions and hasn't convinced in any of them with the possible exception of the rangers game at ER where he had a decent game.
He's far from alone and the only reason for our poor home form tho and five or six of the senior players who play every week despite performances being questionable need a ****ing rocket. Time to ditch the softly softly approach...they need to be told in no uncertain terms to shape up or ship out.
Robbo6-2
30-12-2020, 07:26 PM
Ive tried hard to give him the benefit of the doubt but the reality is he is well short of the standard required. He's filled in playing a number of positions and hasn't convinced in any of them with the possible exception of the rangers game at ER where he had a decent game.
He's far from alone and the only reason for our poor home form tho and five or six of the senior players who play every week despite performances being questionable need a ****ing rocket. Time to ditch the softly softly approach...they need to be told in no uncertain terms to shape up or ship out.
He wouldny be playing if Murphy or Magenis was fit imo.
B.H.F.C
30-12-2020, 07:27 PM
He wouldny be playing if Murphy or Magenis was fit imo.
Of course he wouldn’t. But that’s the chance you take with players who are coming off an ACL injury having played very little football in Murphy’s case and none at all in Magennis’s case.
calumhibee1
30-12-2020, 07:35 PM
Of course he wouldn’t. But that’s the chance you take with players who are coming off an ACL injury having played very little football in Murphy’s case and none at all in Magennis’s case.
Magennis is looking like he could backfire spectacularly if he can’t stay fit.
Brooster
30-12-2020, 07:37 PM
Him and Hallberg are garbage.
I cant disagree with any of that unfortunately.
Heisenberg
30-12-2020, 07:40 PM
Of course he wouldn’t. But that’s the chance you take with players who are coming off an ACL injury having played very little football in Murphy’s case and none at all in Magennis’s case.
They both appear to be very risky signings on what we’ve seen so far. Smaller squad means we need players available and those two haven’t been anywhere near available enough.
hibee-boys
30-12-2020, 07:46 PM
Him and Hallberg are garbage.
Been saying this for long enough, bottom 6 premiership players at best.
GreenCastle
30-12-2020, 07:54 PM
Oddly reminds me of Rowan Vine when we signed him from Saints.
Flanny boy
30-12-2020, 07:54 PM
Him and Hallberg are garbage.
Sadly that is 100% correct
calumhibee1
30-12-2020, 08:04 PM
Oddly reminds me of Rowan Vine when we signed him from Saints.
At least we never got subjected to Vine for this many games.
Stuart93
30-12-2020, 08:06 PM
I’d look to offload in January and replace
The Modfather
30-12-2020, 08:08 PM
Think Wright is a bit like Gogic, good for specific games like away to the Old Firm where we need to protect the fullbacks more so than be on the front foot, or seeing out games. We lack viable options out wide so Wright has played a lot more than he probably should have IMO.
Wheat Hound
30-12-2020, 08:08 PM
Try and return him to St Johnstone in part return for Jason Kerr.
B.H.F.C
30-12-2020, 08:13 PM
Think Wright is a bit like Gogic, good for specific games like away to the Old Firm where we need to protect the fullbacks more so than be on the front foot, or seeing out games. We lack viable options out wide so Wright has played a lot more than he probably should have IMO.
I think that’s harsh on Gogic. We’ve not been as poor in a game like tonight with him in the team. You still need players that can tackle, even in games like tonight. Their first goal tonight, that was right in Gogic’s area. I don’t think he’s brilliant but I’d have him ahead of Hallberg any day.
Wright is just garbage, doing a bit of running at ibrox doesn’t change that.
He is playing zero risk football at the moment and even then he is misplacing simple passes. It's the game of a player completely bereft of confidence.
Maybe he could turn it around if given a run of games as a right winger/wingback, which seems to be his position, but given he isn't going to get that with boyle around a sub role would be better than fitting him in out of position every week.
Hibees1973
30-12-2020, 08:27 PM
Not fair to single out anyone tonight....they were all pish.
Kinross Hibee
30-12-2020, 08:42 PM
But but Tommy Wright said he was his best signing so we need to keep giving him a chance every week until he comes good 👀
CMurdoch
30-12-2020, 08:46 PM
He is playing zero risk football at the moment and even then he is misplacing simple passes. It's the game of a player completely bereft of confidence.
Maybe he could turn it around if given a run of games as a right winger/wingback, which seems to be his position, but given he isn't going to get that with boyle around a sub role would be better than fitting him in out of position every week.
Think Wright is suffering with the same issue suffered by Newell and Doidge under Hecky.
Being played out of position is killing him.
Given Boyle was getting nothing out of Tremarco tonight there was a case for Wright and Boyle switching wings.
Playing Wright on the left tonight didn't help the player and more importantly didn't help the team.
I'm a patient man but tonight has tipped the balance for me against Wright playing on the left. Simply not progressive enough playing in that position against teams below Hibs.
Hermit Crab
30-12-2020, 08:49 PM
Not good enough, file under Doidge.
EVENTUALLY
30-12-2020, 08:51 PM
He is playing zero risk football at the moment and even then he is misplacing simple passes. It's the game of a player completely bereft of confidence.
Maybe he could turn it around if given a run of games as a right winger/wingback, which seems to be his position, but given he isn't going to get that with boyle around a sub role would be better than fitting him in out of position every week.
There were at least 2 occasions tonight when he could have chipped in little diagonal balls like the one he put on Doidge's head at Hamilton and he choose to turn away and just laid the the ball off to Doig and Newall. He is not demonstrating any confidence. Its safety first with no intent to take a risk and try to beat his man with a trick or a pass. Looking similar to the Joe Newall of last season.
B.H.F.C
30-12-2020, 09:13 PM
Think Wright is suffering with the same issue suffered by Newell and Doidge under Hecky.
Being played out of position is killing him.
Given Boyle was getting nothing out of Tremarco tonight there was a case for Wright and Boyle switching wings.
Playing Wright on the left tonight didn't help the player and more importantly didn't help the team.
I'm a patient man but tonight has tipped the balance for me against Wright playing on the left. Simply not progressive enough playing in that position against teams below Hibs.
I agree Wright has been shunted about a wee bit but he shows a total lack of intent. Wherever you are on the pitch, you can show a bit of positivity. He’s gutless, all he wants to do is turn inside and pass it to the nearest available man, pass on responsibility.
The Modfather
30-12-2020, 09:29 PM
Not good enough, file under Doidge.
Constructive criticism is fine, entrenched views where you go out your way to criticise certain players, like on a thread about Wright, is boring and makes it a less fun board to read tbh.
Winston Ingram
30-12-2020, 10:31 PM
Really struggling to fathom how there is such little acknowledgment on here of the fact he’s being picked to play in a position he isn’t capable of playing.
He’s a right sided midfielder or winger and has demonstrated each time he’s picked at left midfield that he cannot play there and yet keeps getting picked to play in that position. With him being so right footed, the only thing guaranteed when he gets the ball on the left is that the ball is going to be passed to our back 4.
Nicho87
30-12-2020, 10:34 PM
If hallberg and Wright played for Someone outside the top 3 in Scotland we wouldn’t want to sign them. Should be told times up get a new club in January. My personal favourite was wright just after half time couldn’t make a ten yard pass to a free hibs player but found the Ross county boy standing five yards off him.
Really struggling to fathom how there is such little acknowledgment on here of the fact he’s being picked to play in a position he isn’t capable of playing.
He’s a right sided midfielder or winger and has demonstrated each time he’s picked at left midfield that he cannot play there and yet keeps getting picked to play in that position. With him being so right footed, the only thing guaranteed when he gets the ball on the left is that the ball is going to be passed to our back 4.
Do you not remember his Hibs interview, he said he can play across the attacking midfield and in behind the striker, I've seen nothing to suggest he can do this.
B.H.F.C
30-12-2020, 10:41 PM
Really struggling to fathom how there is such little acknowledgment on here of the fact he’s being picked to play in a position he isn’t capable of playing.
He’s a right sided midfielder or winger and has demonstrated each time he’s picked at left midfield that he cannot play there and yet keeps getting picked to play in that position. With him being so right footed, the only thing guaranteed when he gets the ball on the left is that the ball is going to be passed to our back 4.
There are games he has played on the right and has offered nothing.
His single goal and single assist have come not playing on the right.
Playing out of position doesn’t stop you trying to be positive. He looks scared at the thought of even trying to be positive.
MWHIBBIES
30-12-2020, 10:46 PM
Daryl Horgan had many flaws but he was definitely better than Wright. Would swap them in a heartbeat now. Horgan is still on more assists for us this season I believe.
LeithMike
30-12-2020, 11:02 PM
Really struggling to fathom how there is such little acknowledgment on here of the fact he’s being picked to play in a position he isn’t capable of playing.
He’s a right sided midfielder or winger and has demonstrated each time he’s picked at left midfield that he cannot play there and yet keeps getting picked to play in that position. With him being so right footed, the only thing guaranteed when he gets the ball on the left is that the ball is going to be passed to our back 4.I think there is a confidence issue, which could well have arisen as a result of this. Winter pitches dont usually help a winger either.
Let's be patient and see if he can build his confidence as the season progresses.
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B.H.F.C
30-12-2020, 11:06 PM
I think there is a confidence issue, which could well have arisen as a result of this. Winter pitches dont usually help a winger either.
Let's be patient and see if he can build his confidence as the season progresses.
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What is it that is making him lack confidence? He’s getting a game (more games than he deserves). It can’t be the crowd. The pre winter pitches didn’t seem to help him either.
He’ll run out of chances if the likes of Murphy can actually stay fit for more than a few weeks.
Jones28
30-12-2020, 11:15 PM
Oddly reminds me of Rowan Vine when we signed him from Saints.
****in easy man, I thought I’d blotted that memory out.
LeithMike
30-12-2020, 11:19 PM
What is it that is making him lack confidence? He’s getting a game (more games than he deserves). It can’t be the crowd. The pre winter pitches didn’t seem to help him either.
He’ll run out of chances if the likes of Murphy can actually stay fit for more than a few weeks.Not sure but playing out of position for a while could be a factor. Even great wingers like Giggs were hopeless playing on the opposite wing.
He's come into a new club with higher standards and expextations and might be struggling to adapt. Wingers are often confidence players and tske a while to come good after a change in clubs. No guarantee that will happen but its still early days.
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calumhibee1
31-12-2020, 07:00 AM
Really struggling to fathom how there is such little acknowledgment on here of the fact he’s being picked to play in a position he isn’t capable of playing.
He’s a right sided midfielder or winger and has demonstrated each time he’s picked at left midfield that he cannot play there and yet keeps getting picked to play in that position. With him being so right footed, the only thing guaranteed when he gets the ball on the left is that the ball is going to be passed to our back 4.
He’s played near enough every position he told us he could play.
That to me suggests he’s just nowhere near the required standard. The excuses have ran out imo. We’ve been told he’s better defensively, we’ve been shown what he can do in video clips which in reality we’re either 6 years old or pulling a comfortable save from the goalie. We’ve been told Tommy Wright thinks he’s class. We’ve been told he’s not a right winger and he’s actually a right midfielder. We’ve been told he wasn’t brought in to provide attacking intent. Imo He’s just a very, very poor footballer.
Since90+2
31-12-2020, 07:02 AM
I actually think he's an ok squad player. He'll be nowhere near the starting 11 when Murphy,Magennis and Allan are back fit.
You have to wonder if Tommy Wright was bigging him up so much to appease his own supporters to save face.
Brightside
31-12-2020, 08:44 AM
I actually think he's an ok squad player. He'll be nowhere near the starting 11 when Murphy,Magennis and Allan are back fit.
Agreed.
GreenCastle
31-12-2020, 08:49 AM
Daryl Horgan had many flaws but he was definitely better than Wright. Would swap them in a heartbeat now. Horgan is still on more assists for us this season I believe.
Would take Horgan over Wright 100%.
Horgan took players on.
We have Boyle, Newell and Murphy, McGinnis who take players on.
Murphy is injured annoyingly as he was looking really good. McGinnis similar but more he was improving every game.
Horgan wasn’t perfect but he definitely contributed with goals and assists.
Key West
31-12-2020, 08:58 AM
Hopefully with match sharpness and playing in the correct position, confidence will be restored as is the case with a few others.
lucky
31-12-2020, 09:36 AM
He’s still settling in at Hibs, he’s wife has given birth to twins this year, they are away from their families. Lockdown will be tough for a new family in a new city. I’m not sure many fans actually think about the the mental health and well being of players. At least let the guy get a run of games before casting him aside.
Coco Bryce
31-12-2020, 09:47 AM
He’s still settling in at Hibs, he’s wife has given birth to twins this year, they are away from their families. Lockdown will be tough for a new family in a new city. I’m not sure many fans actually think about the the mental health and well being of players. At least let the guy get a run of games before casting him aside.
Do the players think about our mental health and well being putting in performances like that? 😉
Having had twins he should be delighted just to get out the hoose 😀
I know what you mean though.
calumhibee1
31-12-2020, 10:20 AM
He’s still settling in at Hibs, he’s wife has given birth to twins this year, they are away from their families. Lockdown will be tough for a new family in a new city. I’m not sure many fans actually think about the the mental health and well being of players. At least let the guy get a run of games before casting him aside.
He’s made 19 appearances.
He doesn’t deserve a run of games. You can’t expect a run of games to show what you can do when you’re so poor in the chances you do get., especially when you’ve had plenty of them.
It always gets suggested on here that players who aren’t playing well should be given a run in their favoured position to see what they can do. We’d drop down the league like a stone if we done that.
Since90+2
31-12-2020, 10:34 AM
Would take Horgan over Wright 100%.
Horgan took players on.
We have Boyle, Newell and Murphy, McGinnis who take players on.
Murphy is injured annoyingly as he was looking really good. McGinnis similar but more he was improving every game.
Horgan wasn’t perfect but he definitely contributed with goals and assists.
Horgan is an old school out and out left winger. As a winger he is better than Wright I'd agree however in the modern game you need players to be able to play more than one role.
If we played Horgan in centre mid he'd look pretty honking too.
Hibby_Paul
31-12-2020, 10:34 AM
He’s still settling in at Hibs, he’s wife has given birth to twins this year, they are away from their families. Lockdown will be tough for a new family in a new city. I’m not sure many fans actually think about the the mental health and well being of players. At least let the guy get a run of games before casting him aside.
I made same point to my crowd about him & twins which most folk prob don’t think off & haven’t seen mentioned yet.
Having got 18 month old twin boys (and a 5 yr old), this lockdown year has been so tough and crazy at times for us with them growing up. Plus I’m lucky enough to have good family childcare support.
It prob does affect anyone who has such demanding intense jobs as a footballer.
That said on purely footballing level I’ve not been that impressed with his showings to date and if he doesn’t improve asap, ideally with better run in his preferred position, then harsh reality is we should look to get new blood in and move him on when we can.
SHODAN
31-12-2020, 10:38 AM
It's time to stop starting Wright for now.
The Modfather
31-12-2020, 10:38 AM
Would take Horgan over Wright 100%.
Horgan took players on.
We have Boyle, Newell and Murphy, McGinnis who take players on.
Murphy is injured annoyingly as he was looking really good. McGinnis similar but more he was improving every game.
Horgan wasn’t perfect but he definitely contributed with goals and assists.
In a straight comparison Horgan is obviously the better option than Wright. However Wright wasn’t signed as Horgans direct replacement and in Horgans own right, given we paid a fee for him and he would have been on a wage to match that fee, he was a disappointing signing IMO
Brightside
31-12-2020, 10:39 AM
It's time to stop starting Wright for now.
I’d actually agree with this. I don’t think he would have started had others been fit to play.
The Spaceman
31-12-2020, 10:44 AM
We have yet to sign a good player from St Johnstone. Always absolutely honking.
BILLYHIBS
31-12-2020, 11:25 AM
We have yet to sign a good player from St Johnstone. Always absolutely honking.
John O’Neil ?
Hibs90
31-12-2020, 11:33 AM
Daryl Horgan had many flaws but he was definitely better than Wright. Would swap them in a heartbeat now. Horgan is still on more assists for us this season I believe.
Agreed for once but I’d suggest Horgan would have contributed far more than what Murphy has
JimBHibees
31-12-2020, 11:46 AM
He’s made 19 appearances.
He doesn’t deserve a run of games. You can’t expect a run of games to show what you can do when you’re so poor in the chances you do get., especially when you’ve had plenty of them.
It always gets suggested on here that players who aren’t playing well should be given a run in their favoured position to see what they can do. We’d drop down the league like a stone if we done that.
Agree needs to earn the right to get a run of games. Clearly only playing because Magennis and Murphy injured. Also looked like he was in a bit of a huff when taken off last night, really.
Winston Ingram
31-12-2020, 12:08 PM
There are games he has played on the right and has offered nothing.
His single goal and single assist have come not playing on the right.
Playing out of position doesn’t stop you trying to be positive. He looks scared at the thought of even trying to be positive.
Against who has he played on the right?
It does stop you being positive if your not confident in playing the position.
Winston Ingram
31-12-2020, 12:11 PM
You have to wonder if Tommy Wright was bigging him up so much to appease his own supporters to save face.
I know a couple of St Johnstone fans and they think he’s superb.
Winston Ingram
31-12-2020, 12:13 PM
Hopefully with match sharpness and playing in the correct position, confidence will be restored as is the case with a few others.
Problem is I can’t see him getting a run there unless Boyle gets injured.
1875Sean
31-12-2020, 12:20 PM
Problem is I can’t see him getting a run there unless Boyle gets injured.
What worries me is if Boyle goes away on international duty in Jan with Australia he will miss 3 or 4 games
basehibby
31-12-2020, 12:36 PM
I don't think it's fair to single out Wright after a game where pretty much the whole side played like they were carrying bags of cement - bar the goalie who was not at fault for either goal. That said he has done little to impress at Hibs to date and looks a squad player at best on showings so far. Can't wait for Murphy to get fit again.
B.H.F.C
31-12-2020, 12:55 PM
Against who has he played on the right?
It does stop you being positive if your not confident in playing the position.
Kilmarnock and Rangers in the league and a some league cup games off the top of my head. Total lack of attacking intent wherever he plays despite saying himself that he was comfortable in a number of positions.
calumhibee1
31-12-2020, 01:00 PM
I don't think it's fair to single out Wright after a game where pretty much the whole side played like they were carrying bags of cement - bar the goalie who was not at fault for either goal. That said he has done little to impress at Hibs to date and looks a squad player at best on showings so far. Can't wait for Murphy to get fit again.
The whole side was poor and whilst there wasn’t a lot in it, Wright was probably the worst of the lot. No surprises at all when he was the first to come off.
JimBHibees
31-12-2020, 01:11 PM
Kilmarnock and Rangers in the league and a some league cup games off the top of my head. Total lack of attacking intent wherever he plays despite saying himself that he was comfortable in a number of positions.
Played against Brora and was poor gave the ball away constantly
I know a couple of St Johnstone fans and they think he’s superb.
Which Wright, Tommy or Drey?
Moulin Yarns
31-12-2020, 03:35 PM
Which Wright, Tommy or Drey?
Paul 😉
Halmyre Hibee
01-01-2021, 10:03 AM
I don’t like slagging Hibs players off always try & back them. That said we do need a better standard of player than we have collectively in the team at this moment. The talent scouting team need to do better or the budget increased if we want to consistently challenge for silverware.
Wilson
01-01-2021, 12:05 PM
I don’t like slagging Hibs players off always try & back them. That said we do need a better standard of player than we have collectively in the team at this moment. The talent scouting team need to do better or the budget increased if we want to consistently challenge for silverware.
I think we're doing alright in terms of scouting and recruitment and I've been critical of them in the past.
Recent injuries have exposed the lack of depth in our squad but in terms of the quality we have been bringing in I'd say we were heading in the right direction.
It was always going to take a couple of transfer windows so I'm interested to see how we build from here.
Baldy Foghorn
01-01-2021, 02:04 PM
I think we're doing alright in terms of scouting and recruitment and I've been critical of them in the past.
Recent injuries have exposed the lack of depth in our squad but in terms of the quality we have been bringing in I'd say we were heading in the right direction.
It was always going to take a couple of transfer windows so I'm interested to see how we build from here.
We were told it was quality over quantity. Injuries have exposed that mantra.
We need our key players back but questionable signings when players are not fully fit, doesn't help our case
Allowing Murray to go on loan and letting Stirling leave for Hamilton may have been a mistake as they would've been good cover with all the injuries we've had.
We were told it was quality over quantity. Injuries have exposed that mantra.
We need our key players back but questionable signings when players are not fully fit, doesn't help our case
We signed 3 players who were not match fit at the time of signing - Murphy, McGennis and S McGinn.
All good players in their own right but a hell of a risk and that has backfired on us at the moment!
The 90+2
01-01-2021, 02:32 PM
We signed 3 players who were not match fit at the time of signing - Murphy, McGennis and S McGinn.
All good players in their own right but a hell of a risk and that has backfired on us at the moment!
Could add Scotty Allan to the list also.
1875Sean
01-01-2021, 02:35 PM
Allowing Murray to go on loan and letting Stirling leave for Hamilton may have been a mistake as they would've been good cover with all the injuries we've had.
Murray needs to get games under his belt to improve, it was right to loan him out, he isn’t even playing week in and out in the championship
blackpoolhibs
01-01-2021, 02:37 PM
I've been as guilty as anyone of critisicing some of our players, yet here we are in a European place with a healthy lead over 5th place and a real chance of making 3rd.
Perhaps the real time to be really critical is this time next season, when we have had another 2 windows to judge our progress as a club under Ross and new owner Gordon.
We can be critical about the strength of the league, but we are in the same pandemic as the rest of them, and overall we are doing well.
Of course we could have done better, but being real, we could also have done a lot worse.
As a whole, we've progressed well, and hopefully we continue to progress.
As fans, the problem I see now is every bad result is treated as if the world has ended, when looking at the bigger picture, its far from that, and things are improving.
Obviously not quick enough for some. :greengrin
Drey Wright is part of this improvement, along with others who have played better than him.
Baldy Foghorn
01-01-2021, 03:21 PM
I've been as guilty as anyone of critisicing some of our players, yet here we are in a European place with a healthy lead over 5th place and a real chance of making 3rd.
Perhaps the real time to be really critical is this time next season, when we have had another 2 windows to judge our progress as a club under Ross and new owner Gordon.
We can be critical about the strength of the league, but we are in the same pandemic as the rest of them, and overall we are doing well.
Of course we could have done better, but being real, we could also have done a lot worse.
As a whole, we've progressed well, and hopefully we continue to progress.
As fans, the problem I see now is every bad result is treated as if the world has ended, when looking at the bigger picture, its far from that, and things are improving.
Obviously not quick enough for some. :greengrin
Drey Wright is part of this improvement, along with others who have played better than him.
Agree with parts of this. We are maybe too critical at times, sitting comfortably in 4th place, but we also think we should be higher up the league too, given the draws, or defeat to RC, and our home form.
Centre Hawf
01-01-2021, 05:05 PM
Could add Scotty Allan to the list also.
Scott Allan was fit and played pretty much all season for us before whatever has happened forced him out. Not really the same as signing Murphy and Magennis who have spent more time crocked since day 1.
Winston Ingram
01-01-2021, 05:19 PM
Kilmarnock and Rangers in the league and a some league cup games off the top of my head. Total lack of attacking intent wherever he plays despite saying himself that he was comfortable in a number of positions.
He played central midfield v Killie and right wing back v Sevco.
The 90+2
01-01-2021, 08:52 PM
Scott Allan was fit and played pretty much all season for us before whatever has happened forced him out. Not really the same as signing Murphy and Magennis who have spent more time crocked since day 1.
He signed having hardly kicking a ball for Celtic for a season.
B.H.F.C
01-01-2021, 09:17 PM
He played central midfield v Killie and right wing back v Sevco.
Killie first day of the season he started at right wing back, Boyle started up front. I think we changed shape and he ended up subbed, which is fairly common also.
Not sure about the relevance of him playing as a wing back at Ibrox. Are they not meant to try and go forward? I mean Doig managed it on the other side. Wherever Wright plays he shows no intent to attack.
blackpoolhibs
02-01-2021, 02:56 PM
I've been as guilty as anyone of critisicing some of our players, yet here we are in a European place with a healthy lead over 5th place and a real chance of making 3rd.
Perhaps the real time to be really critical is this time next season, when we have had another 2 windows to judge our progress as a club under Ross and new owner Gordon.
We can be critical about the strength of the league, but we are in the same pandemic as the rest of them, and overall we are doing well.
Of course we could have done better, but being real, we could also have done a lot worse.
As a whole, we've progressed well, and hopefully we continue to progress.
As fans, the problem I see now is every bad result is treated as if the world has ended, when looking at the bigger picture, its far from that, and things are improving.
Obviously not quick enough for some. :greengrin
Drey Wright is part of this improvement, along with others who have played better than him.
What are you talking about ya clown, we are pish.
marinello59
02-01-2021, 02:57 PM
What are you talking about ya clown, we are pish.
:faf:
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