Dundee United without nine players for games against Livingston and Rangers

[Diclonius]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55171011

This is ridiculous. The games should be postponed.

[The 90+2]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55171011

This is ridiculous. The games should be postponed.

They will get 0-3 losses. What’s the point?

[Andy74]

This season is all about surviving as best you can.

Lots of twists and turns to go yet.

[Since90+2]

And back nice and fresh for their next game which is against us.

[Smartie]

Do we all agree that Rangers would be forced to play if they had 9 players and their entire coaching staff missing?

Or would "common sense prevail" under those circumstances?

[Moulin Yarns]

I wonder if clubs will try and play youngsters to avoid the st mirren and Kilmarnock situation?

[Peevemor]

They will get 0-3 losses. What’s the point?

Don't be silly.

If you have 13 fit players (I think) the match goes on.

If you don't and it's not the club's fault, the match will be postponed.

If it is found to be the club's fault, they'll forfeit the game and will thus "lose" 3-0.

It's really not that complicated.

[EI255]

They will get 0-3 losses. What’s the point?100%. That bar was set yesterday.

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[Peevemor]

100%. That bar was set yesterday.

Sent from my LG-H870 using Tapatalk100% it wasn't.

[thebakerboy]

That may be so but in the EPL games are postponed in those circumstances , can the SPFL not come into the 21st century soon.

[The 90+2]

Don't be silly.

If you have 13 fit players (I think) the match goes on.

If you don't and it's not the club's fault, the match will be postponed.

If it is found to be the club's fault, they'll forfeit the game and will thus "lose" 3-0.

It's really not that complicated.

Aye,right you are. 🤣

[Keith_M]

Surely this is good news for Hibs?


:dunno:

[Peevemor]

Aye,right you are. [emoji1787]Maybe it is too complicated for you?

[The 90+2]

Maybe it is too complicated for you?

No it’s not. Teams will simply make youth players available to make the quota after yesterday. No need to act like a tit either.

[CropleyWasGod]

No it’s not. Teams will simply make youth players available to make the quota after yesterday. No need to act like a tit either.

Or.... maybe.... forfeit the game and take a 0-3 rather than a 0-12 by fielding a crap team :greengrin

[The 90+2]

Or.... maybe.... forfeit the game and take a 0-3 rather than a 0-12 by fielding a crap team :greengrin

Fair point, aye 😎

[CropleyWasGod]

This season is all about surviving as best you can.

Lots of twists and turns to go yet.

Maybe the SPFL should just say "hang on in there guys. There's no relegation this season. So just get through it....."

:cb

[Peevemor]

No it’s not. Teams will simply make youth players available to make the quota after yesterday. No need to act like a tit either.I didn't start it.

[The 90+2]

I didn't start it.

👍

[Smartie]

Surely this is good news for Hibs?


:dunno:

Yeah.

Seems a bit unfair though, no?

[davhibby]

No it’s not. Teams will simply make youth players available to make the quota after yesterday. No need to act like a tit either.

Neither St Mirren or Killie would have been able to do that. St Mirren had something like 8 available players and 3 of them were goalies. It’s worth noting that none of these United players actually have the virus, they’re just isolating

[superfurryhibby]

Maybe the SPFL should just say "hang on in there guys. There's no relegation this season. So just get through it....."

:cb

Sounds fair to me.

[lucky]

More details needs released about St Mirren and Kilmarnock’s behaviour before judging. As for United they need to get on with it like everyone else

[The 90+2]

Neither St Mirren or Killie would have been able to do that. St Mirren had something like 8 available players and 3 of them were goalies. It’s worth noting that none of these United players actually have the virus, they’re just isolating

They couldn’t play youngsters? St Mirren also had no goalies available against us. There is ways, and after what happened yesterday no club will risk getting a game postponed.

[jacomo]

More details needs released about St Mirren and Kilmarnock’s behaviour before judging. As for United they need to get on with it like everyone else


Like everyone else except Celtc and Aberdeen, who were allowed to postpone games earlier in the season when they had their own issues with players.

[PatHead]

Neither St Mirren or Killie would have been able to do that. St Mirren had something like 8 available players and 3 of them were goalies. It’s worth noting that none of these United players actually have the virus, they’re just isolating

But are they isolating because they didn't follow the rules. If so,Dundee United should be docked points with the game played at a later date. That ship has sailed though with yesterday's decisions.

[Del Boy]

More details needs released about St Mirren and Kilmarnock’s behaviour before judging. As for United they need to get on with it like everyone else


They are, to be fair. Released a statement saying they are preparing for tomorrow’s game.

[Peevemor]

More details needs released about St Mirren and Kilmarnock’s behaviour before judging. As for United they need to get on with it like everyone elseIs there not enough here?

https://spfl.co.uk/news/kilmarnock-fc-and-st-mirren-fc-disciplinary-outc

[Alfred E Newman]

Maybe the SPFL should just say "hang on in there guys. There's no relegation this season. So just get through it....."

:cb

Or promotion.:greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

More details needs released about St Mirren and Kilmarnock’s behaviour before judging. As for United they need to get on with it like everyone else

https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/files/shares/Decision%20of%20the%20Tribunal%20-%20St%20Mirren%20FC.pdf

[Diclonius]

Yeah.

Seems a bit unfair though, no?

That's where I stand on it.

[mal]

Like everyone else except Celtc and Aberdeen, who were allowed to postpone games earlier in the season when they had their own issues with players.

They were obliged to postpone by the Scottish government so it's not the same circumstances. I'm sure that Celtic would have preferred their game to go ahead. That the SPFL didn't deal properly with the Aberdeen players is another matter.

[Ronniekirk]

After the festive period could be carnage as different bubbles mix players will like the test of us want to see family


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[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-united/1789021/dundee-united-leaked-team-photo-covid-19-rules/

Eejits

[Since452]

Hope they get pumped. Closing the gap a bit.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Its actually just breathtaking what football players and clubs think they can get away with.

The Celtc player off for a 2 day jolly to Spain or the Aberdeen players having a night on the sauce set the standard.

Now we the find out that Kilmarnock don't pay much attention to the regulations and St Mirren don't even bother trying.

Dundee Utd weren't to be outdone though and line up the whole team and backroom staff for a team photo published to the world in clear breach of the 2 metre rule and it just goes without saying that there will be many more regulations they aren't following.

The Scottish government can't possibly let fans back in the stadium in any great numbers as there are so many clubs out there who are just not capable of following any guidelines as self entitlement just runs through the bones of Scottish football.

[Sir David Gray]

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-united/1789021/dundee-united-leaked-team-photo-covid-19-rules/

Eejits

That will be Livingston and Rangers awarded 3-0 wins then.

[Since452]

Its actually just breathtaking what football players and clubs think they can get away with.

The Celtc player off for a 2 day jolly to Spain or the Aberdeen players having a night on the sauce set the standard.

Now we the find out that Kilmarnock don't pay much attention to the regulations and St Mirren don't even bother trying.

Dundee Utd weren't to be outdone though and line up the whole team and backroom staff for a team photo published to the world in clear breach of the 2 metre rule and it just goes without saying that there will be many more regulations they aren't following.

The Scottish government can't possibly let fans back in the stadium in any great numbers as there are so many clubs out there who are just not capable of following any guidelines as self entitlement just runs through the bones of Scottish football.

Unfortunately it isn't just football clubs. I have friends (don't know if I'd call them that now) who haven't been bothering about any of the restrictions from the start. Sad reflection of the world we live in.

[southern hibby]

Can we really blame the teams for what happening when we have the SPFL allowing Celtic to go on a jolly to Dubai? If Celtic come back and we end up with COVID are we going to be penalised because of allowing Celtic’s jolly?

We have a severe lack of leadership in this country and what seems to happen is that smaller teams get hammered and the big two get away with a lot more. Are our rule makers scared too single out these two because of fans or is it because they are scared they upset their
bosses and get their fingers rapped.

It’s allowed to happen because the rest can’t get their sh t together and sort it out. The media allow it to happen too because they’re scared of not being in bed with the biggest two. country needs a complete overhaul and we need to do it soon for the sake of our football.

GGTTH

[Billy Whizz]

That will be Livingston and Rangers awarded 3-0 wins then.

Not if the games go ahead

[Sir David Gray]

Not if the games go ahead

True.

[Moulin Yarns]

Right, St Mirren and Kilmarnock have had games awarded against them by 3-0 because of Covid protocol breaches and the games were postponed.

Dundee Utd have also breached the Covid protocols but have not had any games postponed, what punishment will the SPFL give them?

This is exactly why points deductions is more workable and fairer on all other clubs.

The table would look different but no team would have benefitted from the actions of others.


Rangers 41
Celtc 30
Aberdeen 27
Hibernian 26
Dundee Utd 20
St Johnstone 16
Motherwell 15
Kilmarnock 14
Ross County 13
Livingstone 12
Hamilton 8
St Mirren 5

[Del Boy]

Imagine Utd will get a fine. They’ll probably lose to Livingston and Rangers anyway as they have 9 players isolating.

[Moulin Yarns]

Imagine Utd will get a fine. They’ll probably lose to Livingston and Rangers anyway as they have 9 players isolating.

So, the consistent punishment of fine, and 3-0 losses is out the window already.

[Moulin Yarns]

Jason Leitch take on the photo

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55199920


The outcome is up to the football authorities. I was, to say the least, a little surprised to see 49 people in a non-distanced club photograph. That didn't seem to me to be an essential part of the return of Scottish football in a safe and considered way. It's not something that fits in with the guidelines

[Keith_M]

Just to clarify the rule:

A 3-0 win is being awarded to the opposition when a club is unable to fulfil a fixture AND the subsequent SPFL investigation has deemed that said club has broken the Covid rules.


If Dundee Utd have enough players to fulfil the fixture (even if it's reserves and kids), then the game goes ahead, i.e. no need to award a win to the opposition.

[G B Young]

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-united/1789021/dundee-united-leaked-team-photo-covid-19-rules/

Eejits

Pics now emerging of Celtic staging a similar squad photo. You kind of despair at such idiocy.

[Keith_M]

Pics now emerging of Celtic staging a similar squad photo. You kind of despair at such idiocy.


:agree:

[Smartie]

I think what they need to do to get this under control is to have a covidiot hot potato competition.

Aberdeen made a strong start with their early season exploits - they received the hot potato. It has since been passed on to Celtic, appears to have gone through Hamilton, Killie and others.

At the moment it is hard to argue that the hot potato doesn’t reside at Tannadice, although the Celtic team photo in the article linked above is interesting.

As each club (or player) blunders, the potato moves on.

At the end of this season there should be an automatic relegation place for the team left holding the potato at the end of the season.

This has 2 main aims - primarily to get clubs and players to get a much needed grip of themselves and start behaving appropriately. Secondly, it should give us a much needed laugh when, at the final hurdle, Rangers find themselves in possession of the potato after some of exuberant title winning celebrations, and an unfortunate relegation follows.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-united/1789021/dundee-united-leaked-team-photo-covid-19-rules/

Eejits



the "most idiotic club in scottish football award" goes to........

[cabbageandribs1875]

Right, St Mirren and Kilmarnock have had games awarded against them by 3-0 because of Covid protocol breaches and the games were postponed.

Dundee Utd have also breached the Covid protocols but have not had any games postponed, what punishment will the SPFL give them?

This is exactly why points deductions is more workable and fairer on all other clubs.

The table would look different but no team would have benefitted from the actions of others.


Rangers 41
Celtc 30
Aberdeen 27
Hibernian 26
Dundee Utd 20
St Johnstone 16
Motherwell 15
Kilmarnock 14
Ross County 13
Livingstone 12
Hamilton 8
St Mirren 5

Livingston pick up extra points for the wrong spelling

[The Baldmans Comb]

Pics now emerging of Celtic staging a similar squad photo. You kind of despair at such idiocy.

Its Scottish football at its finest as there are many clubs and players who don't give a flip.

There are around 50 people in these photographs and no one seems to think they are doing anything wrong and that's the mindset of self entitlement that just goes through Scottish football from top to bottom.

St Mirren and Kilmarnock were great value as they admitted all the breaches but didnt seem to think they should be punished.

The Kilmarnock manager was just on the radio saying there were "no guidelines" and it was all disgraceful that they were punished. Breathtaking garbage.

You would be taking your life in your hands to go back to a Scottish football ground if you are in any way vulnerable as you can have no confidence covid regulations will be followed.

[Billy Whizz]

Quite a strong Dundee Utd team, most of their regular players are Covid free

[Moulin Yarns]

Pics now emerging of Celtic staging a similar squad photo. You kind of despair at such idiocy.

I think the Celtc team photo was actually taken at the beginning of the season and it's promoting the calendar, but it still breaches what the clubs were told to do.

[erin go bragh]

Quite a strong Dundee Utd team, most of their regular players are Covid free

Bloody typical as I’ve put Livi in my coupon at 4-6 😉

[Moulin Yarns]

Livingston pick up extra points for the wrong spelling

I was rushing to be fair :wink:

[cabbageandribs1875]

I was rushing to be fair :wink:



excuses excuses

[Moulin Yarns]

excuses excuses

I had to deal with my tear and share Brioch for tonights nibbles, now rising in the kitchen hopefully :greengrin