Hibs v Dundee

[Heisenberg]

Mallan hooked for Hallberg

[SHODAN]

Not convinced that was offside.

[Moulin Yarns]

vast majority of that half was spent watching Dundee with the ball

While the BBC has Hibs with 55% possession, bizarre!

[J-C]

Hallberg for Mallan and Doidge stays on, strange tactics.

[sleeping giant]

Why not just make the sub at half time ?

[Sir David Gray]

Lovely from Boyle, ball cleared.

[BT58]

Very good play by the squirrel
B

[The 90+2]

Off the line

[Vault Boy]

Well why threaten me with a ban then? Was he posting as a fan or an admin?

I'll leave it there as I don't want to waste the admins time with this crap and I actually agree with 99% of Pretty Boy's posts.

I'd imagine you realise that if you hadn't made an irrelevant, sly comment about PB being an admin, then there would have been no reaction whatsoever. That's my point. I agree, it should be left there.

[Moulin Yarns]

Mallan hooked for Hallberg

Mallan injured.

[wookie70]

Daz has looked a lot sharper today.

[J-C]

Lovely from Boyle, ball cleared.


Unless Mallan had taken a wee knock and wanted to see how it went, he didn't look happy going off.

[Andy74]

Hallberg for Mallan and Doidge stays on, strange tactics.

Just because you are currently obsessed with the 442 not being a good formation does not make it a bizarre tactic.

[Ozyhibby]

Imagine what this place will be like when we actually lose a game.

Have we not lost any games recently?


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[Vault Boy]

I think we're playing better this half. Boyle lively.

[Coco Bryce]

Unless Mallan had taken a wee knock and wanted to see how it went, he didn't look happy going off.

I looked well happy when he went off.

[tamig]

Wtf is Collum on?

[Baldy Foghorn]

I think we're playing better this half. Boyle lively.

Better tempo

[MrRobot]

Mallan hooked for Hallberg

Glad to see Hallberg coming on, much better player than most people make out.

[Yorkshire HFC]

We are winning today so far of course.

I've never understood why it's the managers fault when a player misses a penalty.

[Northernhibee]

Linesman gives a Hibs foul when he’s three yards away, Willy Collum gives it against us from thirty yards away.

Disgraceful.

[J-C]

Just because you are currently obsessed with the 442 not being a good formation does not make it a bizarre tactic.


I'm not obsessed, Ross chooses the tactic and I feel like a lot of people on here that we don't have the players to play it well, apart from a counter attacking goal, it hasn't worked again today.

[cabbageandribs1875]

mon hibs

lets be havin ya

[J-C]

Glad to see Hallberg coming on, much better player than most people make out.

With you on that, strange he doesn't get more of a chance, maybe Ross just doesn't fancy him.

[Hibs90]

Better tempo

Much better tempo

[bringbackbenny]

Glad to see Hallberg coming on, much better player than most people make out.

Agreed, he's has already got closer to Dundee and made more challenges than Mallan. I think he's a better option than Mallan when playing 2 in the middle. And I rate Mallan but not in that formation.

[Andy74]

I'm not obsessed, Ross chooses the tactic and I feel like a lot of people on here that we don't have the players to play it well, apart from a counter attacking goal, it hasn't worked again today.

Playing well just now.

Two wingers, two strikers at home against a team the division below. And winning.

I would have found it more bizarre if we’d taken a striker off in those circumstances.

[J-C]

Much better tempo


A lot more energy and tempo.

[Moulin Yarns]

mon hibs

lets be havin ya

That doesn't cut the mustard. :wink:

[Vault Boy]

Improving our pressing game has helped us this half. Strikers playing a significant part in that.

[hibee62]

Nisbet must have a good few assists to his name already this season? Really good signing and should only get better, needs to impose himself a bit more today though I can see him scoring.

I hate to say it, but tactically speaking Jack Ross now has a few alarms bells ringing for me. You could argue that he has played a large part in at least 4 of our last 5 or so poor results:

Hearts semi - couldn't respond to their subs at 60 odd mins
Celtic game - arguably his subs and sitting in lost us that win
St Johnstone - takes Gogic off and we lose control
Dundee today - decides to play a 2 in midfield with Mallan

And before anyone says anything, I'm not saying he was at fault as it's not as clear cut as that, but the fact you could argue each of those is a little worrying

When negative things happen it is natural to focus on the things that caused it. We don’t do the same things for the good results. What were the tactical changes that got us a 3-0 win over Aberdeen, or a 2-0 win at tynecastle, or a 2-2 draw against rangers?

There’s been more good results than bad since he took over so I don’t think you are being entirely fair.

Ps, I think the win at tynecastle was down to his decision to push Boyle up front to run off a slow defence. But we all know that... :)

[Coco Bryce]

Much better from us now. Stepping up a gear and more direct.

[Vault Boy]

Really good move between Mackie, Doidge, and Boyle, Newell's effort was poor.

[Peevemor]

Good play from Doidge in the box to set up Newell (who skied it).

[CmoantheHibs]

Nice play by Hibs there.

[Snedz]

Much better from us now. Stepping up a gear and more direct.

:agree:

Would be great to get that second goal cushion. Mon Hibs.

[J-C]

Playing well just now.

Two wingers, two strikers at home against a team the division below. And winning.

I would have found it more bizarre if we’d taken a striker off in those circumstances.


Amazing what happens when they get a rollocking at half time and some decide to start playing, better tempo and energy. Doidge did nothing the 1st half but has chased and harried since half time, 442 can work but needs the 10 outfield players to work hard to do so.

[HH81]

I have lost sound on ppv. Picture has come back on just in time to see some good build up play.

[DaveF]

Far better so far this half.

[blackpoolhibs]

We are crying out for Omeonga.

[J-C]

We are crying out for Omeonga.


There's times when I wonder if you're being serious or tongue in cheek. :greengrin

[Stuart93]

Has there been a difference after mallan’s went off?

[Coco Bryce]

Has there been a difference after mallan’s went off?

Massive difference.

[The Modfather]

Just because you are currently obsessed with the 442 not being a good formation does not make it a bizarre tactic.

It is a bit bizarre persisting with a formation we don’t have the players for though. If that’s Ross’ preferred formation, fine, but wait until he signs the players needed for it and play a more pragmatic formation until them IMO

[J-C]

Has there been a difference after mallan’s went off?


Not really, just the whole team pressing hard and a higher tempo.

[The 90+2]

They still look dangerous at set pieces. Would take 1-0 now and move on.

[Peevemor]

Not really, just the whole team pressing hard and a higher tempo.Exactly. There has been a difference but it's not all down to Hallberg. Far from it.

[Coco Bryce]

Not really, just the whole team pressing hard and a higher tempo.

A huge difference then.

[Stuart93]

Not really, just the whole team pressing hard and a higher tempo.

Ah right, fair dooz

[Tambo]

Get Gullan on.

[wookie70]

Exactly. There has been a difference but it's not all down to Hallberg. Far from it.
More work rate from Doidge has played a part. He and Nisbet working hard was a major part of our success early in the year

[Coco Bryce]

Exactly. There has been a difference but it's not all down to Hallberg. Far from it.

Your right. Anybody coming on for Mallen would have made a difference.

[The 90+2]

These long throws and Osman Sow on give me the fear.

[Andy74]

It is a bit bizarre persisting with a formation we don’t have the players for though. If that’s Ross’ preferred formation, fine, but wait until he signs the players needed for it and play a more pragmatic formation until them IMO

We do have the players for it.

We’ve got good wingers, good strikers and we’ve just about every type of different midfielder you can get.

[villahibs]

McGinn been good again... Kevin Nisbet’s first touch is horrible....

[percy veer]

These long throws and Osman Sow on give me the fear.

You can see it , 1 nil with hibs is never easy

[Vault Boy]

McGinn been good again... Kevin Nisbet’s first touch is horrible....

Agree. Disagree.

[tamig]

Doidge has been excellent this half. I’d bring Gullan on soon though.

[Peevemor]

Doidge has been excellent this half. I’d bring Gullan on soon though.Ha !

[cabbageandribs1875]

dundee have only won once against us in the last 19 games, it's nice us being some clubs bogey team :greengrin

[J-C]

Gullan for Nisbet

[tamig]

Oh well there we go. Didn’t expect Nisbet to come off.

[Scorrie]

Gullan on for Nisbet

[worcesterhibby]

You can see it , 1 nil with hibs is never easy

1-0 with ANY team (except Arsenal in the Tony Adams days) is never easy...look at Liverpool today !

[Andy74]

Oh well there we go. Didn’t expect Nisbet to come off.

Think he had a bit of an injury earlier.

[The Modfather]

We do have the players for it.

We’ve got good wingers, good strikers and we’ve just about every type of different midfielder you can get.

Who are the two central midfielders we can play in a two and not lose the midfield? Gogic & Newell are probably the closest two IMO, but we saw their flaws against St Johnstone. What midfielders do we have with energy, tempo and can drive 20 yards with the ball?

[Peevemor]

F***in' boooooo!

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[DaveF]

Last 15 we have regressed again.

[Vault Boy]

Mackie has really impressed me today

[wookie70]

Another good performance from Mackie. Some of the other players could look at Sean's pressing and commitment over the last three games

[Coco Bryce]

Mackie has really impressed me today

Laddie is getting better week by week.

[Jones28]

Great to hear about Mackie 👍🏻

[Heisenberg]

Wright on for Murphy.

[Snedz]

Mackie has really impressed me today

Yep. I reckon both him and Hammer will push on. Hopefully Josh Doig will as well.

[Andy74]

Laddie is getting better week by week.

Yep. Needs to use the ball a little better but will come from playing.

[J-C]

Laddie is getting better week by week.


Confidence must be high, he'll make the odd error but that's expected.

[Peevemor]

Laddie is getting better week by week.You get the impression that Doig getting a run ahead of him might have given him a kick in the backside.

[WhileTheChief..]

This should be a lot more comfortable than it is.

Got to be able to hold out against a lower division team for 10 mins.

[Andy74]

Wright on for Murphy.

Would be good to see something positive from Wright.

[Peevemor]

Wright on for Murphy.Yeah. Wright on man !

[wookie70]

Unlucky Wright, great move

[Vault Boy]

Close from Wright, good break from Hibs. Struck it well, but too close to Hamilton.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Deserved a goal after that move

[Brightside]

Dre very unlucky. Great play.

[Andy74]

Hallberg has been very good.

[CmoantheHibs]

Almost an instant impact by Drey Wright

[MrRobot]

Hallberg having a much better impact on the game than Mallan was.

[Ronniekirk]

Would be good to see something positive from Wright.

He needs to show can do do well against a team in league below us


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[Vault Boy]

Boyle hasn't been on his absolute top form today, but I think he's been better and used the ball well when compared to some previous weeks. Some decent runs and passes from him today.

[Santa Cruz]

Reporter from the Hearts game on Sportscene said the game was utter garbage 😊

[HH81]

If they score is it extra time?

[J-C]

Hallberg being more combative in the middle than Mallan this half.

[staunchhibby]

yep then penalties

[Ronniekirk]

If they score is it extra time?

Have they had a shot on target this half


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[wookie70]

Murphy MOTM, that baffles me, Great finish but poor apart from that imo

[Coco Bryce]

Mackie should have been MOTM

[Dmas]

far better second half, much more urgency, moved it about better as well

[sleeping giant]

Have they had a shot on target this half


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Don't tempt fate :-)

[Peevemor]

Murphy MOTM, that baffles me, Great finish but poor apart from that imoIt's the match sponsor that decides. There's been some wonky ones over the years.

[J-C]

Murphy MOTM, that baffles me, Great finish but poor apart from that imo


Nobody really stood out the whole game, he scored the only goal so far, maybe a shout for Mackie as he's been pretty good today.

[Ronniekirk]

Don't tempt fate :-)

Just sounds like a routine 1. 0 win


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[HH81]

Have they had a shot on target this half


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Not really. Was just asking as you never know.

[Snedz]

far better second half, much more urgency, moved it about better as well

Yep, much improved, I'd have loved a second goal cushion though obviously. Mon Hibs.

[Vault Boy]

Mackie, McGregor and McGinn our best performers IMO.

[tamig]

Wtf Collum? Again. Unbelievable.

[blackpoolhibs]

Comfortable 😂

[wookie70]

Nobody really stood out the whole game, he scored the only goal so far, maybe a shout for Mackie as he's been pretty good today.

Quite a few good performers mostly defenders. Murphy, goal apart wasn't one of the

[Vault Boy]

Good from Gullan. He's been bright, as usual.

[Peevemor]

4 minutes? Where did that come from?

[Vault Boy]

Ooft, our shooting boots were left in the dressing room today.

[SaulGoodman]

Terrible shot

[Andy74]

Wright looks much sharper but should have been scoring there.

[J-C]

Shocking attempt by Wright.

[Coco Bryce]

Drey Wright jeezo.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Just been kicked lout 3 times in the last 5 mins :/

Video stream has ended

[calumhibee1]

Drey Wright mate.

[cabbageandribs1875]

my goodness that was awful

[Mon Dieu4]

We really need to improve our finishing

[Carheenlea]

Disgraceful from Collum.

Equally disgraceful effort from Wright ��

[Heisenberg]

We really need to improve our finishing

No doubt about it. Pass up so many chances most games.

[Ronniekirk]

Wright looks much sharper but should have been scoring there.

He doesn’t look like he has the confidence to score goals to me Still can’t see the potential that made him one of our priority signings


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[J-C]

We really need to improve our finishing


11 shots, 3 on target isn't great.

[Dmas]

Yep, much improved, I'd have loved a second goal cushion though obviously. Mon Hibs.

far too greedy

[Hiber-nation]

Shooting practice required.

[Heisenberg]

Full time!

[Coco Bryce]

Job done. The Hibs go marching on...

[SaulGoodman]

Well that was something

[we are hibs]

FT

Into the quarter finals but will need to step it up if we want to win the cup

[cabbageandribs1875]

phew

[Peevemor]

1-0 FT. Happy with a place in the quarter finals.

[Magpie]

Into the quarter final, job done.

[Sir David Gray]

Full time.

[HH81]

Through. When is the draw?

[weecounty hibby]

Well done Hibs

[Andy74]

Not vintage. Job done though.

[Vault Boy]

Of course we'd like to have scored more, but we didn't really look troubled in the second half. Good to be through.

[sleeping giant]

Win is a win.
Job done. The Hibs go marching on...

[Snedz]

far too greedy

:thumbsup:

One nil will do me though. Delighted to win and hopefully we get a nice draw when it happens. Alloa would be good. Well done the Hi bees.

[wookie70]

Daz would me my MOTM, poor in midweek but never bothered today. Through in the 90 mins so a good day at the office result wise. Rocky could have played in his slippers today as the defence were all very good despite only 2 central midfielders protecting them.

[Brightside]

Take it. Next round. Need to improve that middle of the park.

[kaimendhibs]

Good 2nd half. Great to be through

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[J-C]

A wins a win, not a great 1st half, more energy in the 2nd, not much more you can say, good to see Mackie doing well though.

[Keith_M]

Well at least we're through but...


Jeezo was that p1sh


:rolleyes:

[blackpoolhibs]

That was as poor a game in quality as I've seen in a long time, but it's a win and that's really all that matters in a cup game.

[Andy74]

Daz would me my MOTM, poor in midweek but never bothered today. Through in the 90 mins so a good day at the office result wise. Rocky could have played in his slippers today as the defence were all very good despite only 2 central midfielders protecting them.

Although I think the bad moment first half between McGregor and Rocky knocked us off our stride for the next 20 minutes.

[Sir David Gray]

Through. When is the draw?

Tomorrow after Falkirk v Rangers.

[Since90+2]

When is the next round played?

[Hibby70]

Not great but we are through, time to switch over to Alloa TV.

[cabbageandribs1875]

now

mon the wasps

[Magpie]

Mon the Alloa

[worcesterhibby]

well done Hibs...come on Alloa

[WhileTheChief..]

‘Job done’ is the most positive thing we have to say!

[Sir David Gray]

When is the next round played?

15th December.

[wookie70]

Although I think the bad moment first half between McGregor and Rocky knocked us off our stride for the next 20 minutes.
Must have missed that with a dodgy stream. I remember the one with Porteous and Rocky

[Since90+2]

That was as poor a game in quality as I've seen in a long time, but it's a win and that's really all that matters in a cup game.

A win is really all that matters in any game.

[Tambo]

Home time next please.

[PeeJay]

Pretty uninspiring stuff all round, we deserved to win though ...

[Carheenlea]

Much more mobile looking in second half and dominated the play. Disappointing not to have won by more, but it’s a comfortable enough win.

[The Modfather]

Who are the two central midfielders we can play in a two and not lose the midfield? Gogic & Newell are probably the closest two IMO, but we saw their flaws against St Johnstone. What midfielders do we have with energy, tempo and can drive 20 yards with the ball?

Did you see this reply Andy74? Genuinely interested in what two central midfielders you’d go with that give us what we need.

[Robbo6-2]

That was grim.

Only positives is we are thru and Hearts canny beat Alloa

[blackpoolhibs]

A win is really all that matters in any game.

Not really, you can't be knocked out of the league with a defeat.

[Magpie]

Got a feeling we will get Dunfermline in the next round.

[H18S NX]

Back four were very good with big Daz the stand out.

[Bishop Hibee]

Much better second half. Should have scored a couple more but through to the next round.

[Hiber-nation]

McGinn best today.

Massive improvement required, we can't have another first half like that.

[Sir David Gray]

Got a feeling we will get Dunfermline in the next round.

Alloa.

[thegaffer12]

Good to finally have a clean sheet again 😅

[GreenCastle]

I really hope they bring in some midfielders in January.

Such a key area.

Glad to get the win but feels it’s an area really needing improved and he doesn’t know his best combination.

[Magpie]

Alloa.

Hopefully 🙃

[tamig]

McGinn best today.

Massive improvement required, we can't have another first half like that.

Sorry but McGinn was as poor as I’ve seen him today.

[Magpie]

Good to finally have a clean sheet again 😅

That’s what happens when Hanlon is out... 🤪

[Lago]

A wins a win, not a great 1st half, more energy in the 2nd, not much more you can say, good to see Mackie doing well though.
Totally agree, took the words out my mouth

[Northernhibee]

Wtf Collum? Again. Unbelievable.

Yep, Doidge elbowed in the throat - and I'd like to see it again to see if the Dundee player knew what he was doig - Collum gives a free kick to Dundee. Bizarre.

[weecounty hibby]

Alloa.

Would be nice, but if have split loyalties. Only joking I'd want Hibs to pump them. Hope they beat the tarts though

[Hiber-nation]

Sorry but McGinn was as poor as I’ve seen him today.

Seriously?? Can't quite believe that, you said Doidge was excellent as well and I thought he was pretty poor. Ah well, opinions.

[Since452]

Can we play Dundee every week please

[Andy74]

Did you see this reply Andy74? Genuinely interested in what two central midfielders you’d go with that give us what we need.

Look, 442 is not some weak formation where you are certain to lose the midfield or the game.

I wouldn’t be playing Mallan in it, same as I wouldn’t play Allan in it but just about any other combination will be fine with it.

[Since90+2]

Not really, you can't be knocked out of the league with a defeat.

But if you win every game regardless of performance you win the league.

[tamig]

Yep, Doidge elbowed in the throat - and I'd like to see it again to see if the Dundee player knew what he was doig - Collum gives a free kick to Dundee. Bizarre.

There were numerous howlers today.

The Doidge one you mention.

Boyle’s pirouette in the first half when he turned and the guy grabbed him back with both hands. Cynical and a yellow.

He reached for his pocket in the first half when Mallan got stamped on then decided not to book the guy.

Adam should have been carded for persistent in the first half. The ludicrous one in the second half down the bottom corner when Boyle was fouled and the linesman flagged for it only to be over-ruled by the hopeless Willie.

Those are the obvious ones that come to mind.

[The 90+2]

Win is all that matters but recently performing worryingly.

[Northernhibee]

There were numerous howlers today.

The Doidge one you mention.

Boyle’s pirouette in the first half when he turned and the guy grabbed him back with both hands. Cynical and a yellow.

He reached for his pocket in the first half when Mallan got stamped on then decided not to book the guy.

Adam should have been carded for persistent in the first half. The ludicrous one in the second half down the bottom corner when Boyle was fouled and the linesman flagged for it only to be over-ruled by the hopeless Willie.

Those are the obvious ones that come to mind.

Adam at waist height with his leg fully outstretched too. Seen red given for them, would have been super soft but not even a booking.

[Peevemor]

There were numerous howlers today.

The Doidge one you mention.

Boyle’s pirouette in the first half when he turned and the guy grabbed him back with both hands. Cynical and a yellow.

He reached for his pocket in the first half when Mallan got stamped on then decided not to book the guy.

Adam should have been carded for persistent in the first half. The ludicrous one in the second half down the bottom corner when Boyle was fouled and the linesman flagged for it only to be over-ruled by the hopeless Willie.

Those are the obvious ones that come to mind.Daz had a good penalty claim from a corner in the 1st half.

[truehibernian]

Look, 442 is not some weak formation where you are certain to lose the midfield or the game.

I wouldn’t be playing Mallan in it, same as I wouldn’t play Allan in it but just about any other combination will be fine with it.

I actually do like your posts Andy and I find myself agreeing a lot more with your outlook.

Here's a question - given the emergence of Doig and Mackie, would you consider Lewis Stevenson in the midfield area centrally ? I'm a wee bit biased in my feelings towards Lewy, but I've often thought he has the industry, tenacity, and more importantly the technical ability with the ball to keep possession and keep the play circulating. Still a very fit guy too. Him next to Gogic ?

I think Ross sees a partnership with Gogic and Magennis moving forward.

[The Modfather]

Look, 442 is not some weak formation where you are certain to lose the midfield or the game.

I wouldn’t be playing Mallan in it, same as I wouldn’t play Allan in it but just about any other combination will be fine with it.

442 as a formation is fine, but you do need almost specialist positions in midfield. Almost all rounder, like Ferguson & McCrorie at Aberdeen. We don’t have those players and it’s suicide to stick to 442 with the players we have IMO. If Ross wants to play 442, that’s fine but he needs to sign the players needed for it and until he does play whatever formation that uses 3 midfielders to mitigate all that the players we do have lack.

[Billy Whizz]

Think all 3 subs made a positive impact

[blackpoolhibs]

But if you win every game regardless of performance you win the league.

Very true, when did we last achieve that?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Penalty alloa :greengrin

[Waxy]

1-0 Alloa

[cabbageandribs1875]

1-0 the wasps

[tamig]

Seriously?? Can't quite believe that, you said Doidge was excellent as well and I thought he was pretty poor. Ah well, opinions.

I thought Doidge had a very good second half. I thought Paul McGinn looked tired today. There were a couple of times in the second half especially when the ball broke wide on the right and I was expecting to see McGinn charge in and pick up the ball - but he seemed to be a yard off it. Just don’t think it was his best today.

Very difficult to pick a MOTM today but I thought Newell was good in patches and not so good in others. Was good to see Daz have a fairly decent game and I thought Mackie did well. Boyle was much better in spells today than I’ve seen him for weeks and I thought Halberg made a big difference when he came on.

[Northernhibee]

I should have posted earlier: I've set up the "pie stand" in the kitchen for half time scran on these streamed games. Today wasn't a pie as such but more of a brunch theme - pancakes (made the proper way - with the eggs seperated and the whites whipped to just before meringue stiffness then folded into the batter), bacon and maple syrup and also a cheeky wee retro bucks fizz.

For the right wage I can set up a cheeky stall within the East stand at Easter Road :greengrin

[Peevemor]

I should have posted earlier: I've set up the "pie stand" in the kitchen for half time scran on these streamed games. Today wasn't a pie as such but more of a brunch theme - pancakes (made the proper way - with the eggs seperated and the whites whipped to just before meringue stiffness then folded into the batter), bacon and maple syrup and also a cheeky wee retro bucks fizz.

For the right wage I can set up a cheeky stall within the East stand at Easter Road :greengrinI don't have an advent calendar, so I just go to the kitchen and open the doors at random, eating anything I find behind them.

[Andy74]

442 as a formation is fine, but you do need almost specialist positions in midfield. Almost all rounder, like Ferguson & McCrorie at Aberdeen. We don’t have those players and it’s suicide to stick to 442 with the players we have IMO. If Ross wants to play 442, that’s fine but he needs to sign the players needed for it and until he does play whatever formation that uses 3 midfielders to mitigate all that the players we do have lack.

Disagree. We all used to play 442 and no talk of specialists.

You do need players that can do a bit of everything in midfield. Commonly used to be known as central midfielders. We have some of those.

Playing 3 is also fine but you then need to lose something from elsewhere.

We have good wide players so best not to lose one of those and our strikers play better with partners.

Formations are a bit over emphasised by fans. Think today showed that being sharp and quick with the ball and getting stuck in are far more important. They might have had an extra man in midfield but we weren’t being beaten there.

[NAE NOOKIE]

After the first half I was gonna E Mail Hibs and ask for my money back, it was woeful. Better 2nd half, but how could it have been worse.

Big Daz played well, Murphy took his goal well after good play by Nisbet and I thought Mackie had a good game.

Am I the only one who gets really annoyed when the ref gives a free kick after a forward plays the ball past a defender with nowhere to go and then runs into him as Collum did for Dundee in the first half, what the hell is the defender supposed to do FFS?

Overall we are through, which is a positive, but the ongoing issues with poor passing and at times woeful finishing remain, I mean our shooting is terrible, Nisbet should have done a lot better with the one that came off the post to him and that was followed by Newell, Boyle and Wright blasting decent opportunities miles over the bar, Wright's was so bad I actually laughed out loud. Talking of which I was moved to do the same in the first half when either Murphy or Newell, can't remember which one, under no pressure whatsoever played a 10 yard pass straight out of play.

We need to sharpen up all over the pitch, because when it gets so bad you are laughing at your own teams players you know there's a problem :confused:

[B.H.F.C]

Disagree. We all used to play 442 and no talk of specialists.

You do need players that can do a bit of everything in midfield. Commonly used to be known as central midfielders. We have some of those.

Playing 3 is also fine but you then need to lose something from elsewhere.

We have good wide players so best not to lose one of those and our strikers play better with partners.

Formations are a bit over emphasised by fans. Think today showed that being sharp and quick with the ball and getting stuck in are far more important. They might have had an extra man in midfield but we weren’t being beaten there.

Who are our central midfielders that give us a bit of everything?

I can’t see a single player in that position that fits that description.

[Spike Mandela]

It’s ALL about being through, just ask Robbie Neilson.:greengrin

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Whether you win 1-0 or 5-0 the end results the same, your in the next round of the cup. Unlike Hearts. 😄

[Andy74]

Who are our central midfielders that give us a bit of everything?

I can’t see a single player in that position that fits that description.

So we don’t have a single centre midfielder at the club?

Whether in due course we can get better, I’m sure we can but John McGinn isn’t coming back so I’m reasonably comfortable that Gogic, Newell, Hallberg and Magennis are all central midfield players that can play in a 442. So can Stephen McGinn but I don’t think he’s really here to be playing unless it is an emergency.

[Northernhibee]

It’s ALL about being through, just ask Robbie Neilson.:greengrin

Robbie Replay must be downtrodden now cup replays have been banished this year.

[B.H.F.C]

So we don’t have a single centre midfielder at the club?

Whether in due course we can get better, I’m sure we can but John McGinn isn’t coming back so I’m reasonably comfortable that Gogic, Newell, Hallberg and Magennis are all central midfield players that can play in a 442. So can Stephen McGinn but I don’t think he’s really here to be playing unless it is an emergency.

We have plenty players that play there. None that offer a bit of everything, which is what I was asking about.

We won’t have any real success playing with any of them as a central two. We’ll win games as we have better players than most teams, but that area of the pitch will stop us getting an real success unless addressed.

[The Modfather]

Disagree. We all used to play 442 and no talk of specialists.

You do need players that can do a bit of everything in midfield. Commonly used to be known as central midfielders. We have some of those.

Playing 3 is also fine but you then need to lose something from elsewhere.

We have good wide players so best not to lose one of those and our strikers play better with partners.

Formations are a bit over emphasised by fans. Think today showed that being sharp and quick with the ball and getting stuck in are far more important. They might have had an extra man in midfield but we weren’t being beaten there.

442 used to be the default formation in the 90s, now the default is some variation with 3 in the middle. That’s why playing with a two only works if you have specialist players to mitigate being up against 3. No two midfielders we have, have what is needed to play in a two and it’s setting them up to fail by doing so IMO.

I also think we have more quantity than quality in midfield with most of them being a similar level to Aberdeen’s squad depth. I don’t think any of our central midfielders would get into the Aberdeen starting 11. Newell and Gogic have been improvements but we need to transition them into excellent squad players rather than starters if we’re to take the next step IMO.

[Since90+2]

442 used to be the default formation in the 90s, now the default is some variation with 3 in the middle. That’s why playing with a two only works if you have specialist players to mitigate being up against 3. No two midfielders we have, have what is needed to play in a two and it’s setting them up to fail by doing so IMO.

I also think we have more quantity than quality in midfield with most of them being a similar level to Aberdeen’s squad depth. I don’t think any of our central midfielders would get into the Aberdeen starting 11. Newell and Gogic have been improvements but we need to transition them into excellent squad players rather than starters if we’re to take the next step IMO.

Aberdeen's midfield is miles better than ours. Lewis Ferguson would be the best player at the club if we had him, MCrorie is better than Gogic and when fit McGeough would be a starting centre mid for us.

[H18 SFR]

Meant to contribute earlier, I thought Gullan looked really lively when he came on. I’d like to see him coming off the bench a bit more regularly. The boy looks like he’s got something about him.

[Gatecrasher]

Meant to contribute earlier, I thought Gullan looked really lively when he came on. I’d like to see him coming off the bench a bit more regularly. The boy looks like he’s got something about him.

He's improving, I like that he seems to be able to play anywhere in the final third.

[erin go bragh]

Meant to contribute earlier, I thought Gullan looked really lively when he came on. I’d like to see him coming off the bench a bit more regularly. The boy looks like he’s got something about him.

He is pushing for a start imo . I’d put Boyle on the bench and start Hammer.
Bring Boyle on with 20 or so to go .

[Iggy Pope]

He's improving, I like that he seems to be able to play anywhere in the final third.

He is. I think from today’s game him and Sean Mackie only seem to have a weakness in decision making. It’ll be inexperience and probably needing confidence but they both work tremendously hard. One assist from Sean Mackie today and he’s MOM for me. And Gullan injects life each time he’s come off the bench. Very positive about them.

[Zambernardi1875]

Meant to contribute earlier, I thought Gullan looked really lively when he came on. I’d like to see him coming off the bench a bit more regularly. The boy looks like he’s got something about him.

always impressed when he comes on, always so positive and puts defenders under pressure, someone mentioned earlier about lewis in midfield and id be tempeted to try a gogic/newell with gullan in front as a 3

[MWHIBBIES]

Disagree. We all used to play 442 and no talk of specialists.

You do need players that can do a bit of everything in midfield. Commonly used to be known as central midfielders. We have some of those.

Playing 3 is also fine but you then need to lose something from elsewhere.

We have good wide players so best not to lose one of those and our strikers play better with partners.

Formations are a bit over emphasised by fans. Think today showed that being sharp and quick with the ball and getting stuck in are far more important. They might have had an extra man in midfield but we weren’t being beaten there.

Tbf, 2 defenders and 5 forwards used to be common. Game has evolved. Standard 442 basically never used by decent sides anymore.

[Phil MaGlass]

He is pushing for a start imo . I’d put Boyle on the bench and start Hammer.
Bring Boyle on with 20 or so to go .
This, dropping Boyle might do him and us a bit of good, pace coming off the bench with 20-25 to go.

[Brightside]

This, dropping Boyle might do him and us a bit of good, pace coming off the bench with 20-25 to go.

our 442 has affected Boyle more than most. We have him at his best when we are breaking the lines for him to exploit. In the flat four he almost always gets the ball infront of defence. His pace is his gift, he's technically not the most gifted winger in 1:1 situations. We obv miss Allan for those passes, but Newell etc are more than capable.