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Seveno
24-11-2020, 06:18 PM
Could someone ask him to include some excitement in his voice. With no crowd, a good commentator can add some atmosphere. Cliff is as boring as Martin Tyler.

HendoDelivered
24-11-2020, 06:20 PM
If there's anything to moan about, Cliff’s commentating ain’t it. It’s Hibs TV not Sky Sports mate :greengrin

Smartie
24-11-2020, 06:23 PM
I think he’s great.

No complaints here.

Alfred E Newman
24-11-2020, 06:25 PM
Maybe it's because there is no excitement.

dp00
24-11-2020, 06:25 PM
Think he is great, fair and let’s folk know it’s hibs commentary in the correct way

Folk should also remember he is a volunteer


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Centre Hawf
24-11-2020, 06:32 PM
Cliff is a class act who has been doing this for years, absolutely no complaints here.

Coco Bryce
24-11-2020, 06:34 PM
Nothing to get excited about to be fair.

SaulGoodman
24-11-2020, 06:50 PM
He used to go mental, genuinely screaming down the mic at goals.

Wonder if he’s been told to tone it down a bit.

hibee-boys
24-11-2020, 06:50 PM
He’s probably as bored as the rest of us watching that!

Lendo
24-11-2020, 06:51 PM
Throughly enjoy Cliff’s calming, measured and professional commentary.

Viva_Palmeiras
24-11-2020, 06:51 PM
Cliffs delivery is quite quiet but I prefer that to some of the more forced shouting down the mic. Of others - all about preferences.
Glad they sorted out that rustling mic (I hope)

Jones28
24-11-2020, 07:02 PM
He used to go mental, genuinely screaming down the mic at goals.

Wonder if he’s been told to tone it down a bit.

Would sound a bit daft echoing round an empty stadium.

Brightside
24-11-2020, 07:08 PM
We should give fans a chance to do it.

Peevemor
24-11-2020, 07:13 PM
We should give fans a chance to do it.Cliff is a fan.

Brightside
24-11-2020, 07:29 PM
Cliff is a fan.

Aye I meant the more excitable fans. 😂

Steve20
24-11-2020, 07:39 PM
Could someone ask him to include some excitement in his voice. With no crowd, a good commentator can add some atmosphere. Cliff is as boring as Martin Tyler.

To be fair, how can you get excited at that garbage.

We are awful to watch.

dmc1875
24-11-2020, 07:53 PM
I mean we can be an incredibly boring team to watch with zero zip or pace so I can understand why he might not sound excited all the time

SRHibs
24-11-2020, 07:54 PM
He has improved a lot to be fair.

PatHead
24-11-2020, 07:56 PM
No problems with him other than him thinking that was an entertaining game!

007
24-11-2020, 07:57 PM
Cliff is very good and is much more like a proper commentator than any of the other clubs' commentators that I've heard, which I'm glad about.

lord bunberry
24-11-2020, 07:57 PM
I really like Cliff and he gives up his time for nothing to bring us commentary and he does a good job. Having listened to some other clubs commentators Cliff is one of the best.

Centre Hawf
24-11-2020, 08:01 PM
I really like Cliff and he gives up his time for nothing to bring us commentary and he does a good job. Having listened to some other clubs commentators Cliff is one of the best.

I know some clubs will have people doing it for the first time this season but he really is a cut above them all in my opinion in regards to the club commentators. I think if you were a neutral or an opposition fan you could still enjoy watching the Hibs TV coverage while also not sacrificing the bit of Hibs bias we like as well.

lord bunberry
24-11-2020, 08:15 PM
I know some clubs will have people doing it for the first time this season but he really is a cut above them all in my opinion in regards to the club commentators. I think if you were a neutral or an opposition fan you could still enjoy watching the Hibs TV coverage while also not sacrificing the bit of Hibs bias we like as well.
Absolutely, you only have to see how bad it is when Cliff can’t make it to a game.

matty_f
24-11-2020, 08:21 PM
I really like Cliff and he gives up his time for nothing to bring us commentary and he does a good job. Having listened to some other clubs commentators Cliff is one of the best.

:agree:

Irish_Steve
24-11-2020, 08:32 PM
I liked his Simon and Garfunkel analogy, seemed to go straight over Tam's head. Tam was probably googling what teams they played for

HFC93
24-11-2020, 08:40 PM
I think Cliff and Tam do a great job.

Gloucester Hibs
24-11-2020, 08:52 PM
Don’t mind whispering Cliff, and Tam provides a decent analysis too.

“Go and get yourself a half-time cup of tea, or, perhaps something stronger”

Bishop Hibee
24-11-2020, 08:56 PM
Cliff used to be more enthusiastic which I liked but he’s doing a decent job. Tam McManus is decent too.

USAHibee
24-11-2020, 11:28 PM
If there's anything to moan about, Cliff’s commentating ain’t it. It’s Hibs TV not Sky Sports mate :greengrin

Having enjoyed Hibs tv from afar for years this is a strange post. Cliff and the team are excellent.. can we not find something more worthwhile to complain about. It's getting depressing reading the forum nowadays

BILLYHIBS
24-11-2020, 11:49 PM
Cliff is cool

When you are abroad and you sneak back to your Apartment in the middle of the day when it is 100 degrees outside and you switch on your laptop log in and you hear his dulcet tones you think to yourself ‘Ah that is HIBS TV’

Only mad dogs and Hibbys !

Kaff
24-11-2020, 11:50 PM
As a first time watcher of HibsTV this season I think Cliff is good. I'm sure there's better out there but not sufficient enough for it to cost more.
Perfectly happy with the package on offer from Hibspass/TV. Its not the same as being in the ground or as slick as Sky etc but I wouldn't want the club spending that sort of money either for what will hopefully be a short period till we get back to 'normal'

Wheat Hound
24-11-2020, 11:58 PM
No issues with the commentary......however the constant playing of replays of nothing moments in the game whilst the game is in play and we can't see the action is really getting on my nerves!

basehibby
25-11-2020, 12:12 AM
No issues with the commentary......however the constant playing of replays of nothing moments in the game whilst the game is in play and we can't see the action is really getting on my nerves!

Funny you should mention that because I thought there was a blatant foul on Boyle at the edge of the St Js area after about 10-15 mins which the ref totally missed but which WAS highlighted - and I thought confirmed - by the replay.

It wasn't even acknowledged by the commentary team though and I thought at the time - why are Cliff and Tam not analysing that? - and it makes me wonder if they were even aware of the replay being shown to us - the viewers. They are presumably watching directly from some commentator's perch in the stadium and would need a word in the ear from a director to alert them to replays being shown which perhaps our budget doesn't stretch to?

Anyway, on the whole I enjoy Cliff's style - usually very descriptive - but I thought he and Tam let a big incident pass without comment on that occasion.

Vault Boy
25-11-2020, 01:15 AM
I really like Cliff and he gives up his time for nothing to bring us commentary and he does a good job. Having listened to some other clubs commentators Cliff is one of the best.

Fully agreed.

Forza Fred
25-11-2020, 03:28 AM
Cliff is the best ‘club’ commentator I’ve heard

PeeJay
25-11-2020, 03:55 AM
Cliff Pike does a fine job as Hibs TV commentator and has done so for some time now - looking forward to the return of his half-time pie report when things get back to normal ...:greengrin

Curried
25-11-2020, 04:23 AM
I really enjoy Cliff's commentary. I don't think it would be Hibs TV without him or his similes (eg "leapt like a salmon", "went down like he was shot", and my particular favorite of all time "rolling around like he was dead") :-)

Peevemor
25-11-2020, 05:23 AM
As a long time user of Hibs TV, Cliff can annoy me at times but this is no doubt familiarity breeding contempt.

However, commentating isn't easy, especially being able to recognise the opposing teams' players. I know he does a far, far better job than I could ever manage and for that he has my respect, even moreso given that he's a volunteer.

Col L
25-11-2020, 08:59 AM
I generally like Cliff’s style and glad he doesn’t go over the top for the sake of it like most of today’s breed of commentators - Liam McLeod particularly gets on my wick!

It can’t be easy at the moment commentating from empty stadiums and he has no atmosphere to feed off.


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The Modfather
25-11-2020, 10:06 AM
Cliff’s commentary before and after the feedback on this thread :greengrin

https://youtu.be/qjp1Zrvn8VQ

Onceinawhile
25-11-2020, 10:25 AM
I think he's a decent commentator. Not the best in the world, but not worth complaining about.

cabbageandribs1875
25-11-2020, 10:29 AM
if cliff posted on .net he'd be all over this thread like a cheap suit



mon the cliff

Peevemor
25-11-2020, 10:40 AM
if cliff posted on .net he'd be all over this thread like a cheap suit



mon the cliff

Except Cliff usually refers to Burtons suits.

AZhibee
25-11-2020, 11:01 AM
For a while now, Cliff has been the voice of Hibs for me. I look forward to hearing him call the game. Best memory was some game in the championship (away to Alloa?) with audio only, and he had to speak through a cell phone or something like that, still listened halfway across the world.
:flag:

AZhibee
25-11-2020, 11:02 AM
if cliff posted on .net he'd be all over this thread like a cheap suit



mon the cliff

exactly.

He would probably see his name up in lights as well.

Carheenlea
25-11-2020, 11:18 AM
I like Cliff’s commentary. He’s one of us and his ability to commentate in a measured tone with primarily in a Hibs context without going overboard strikes the right balance for a club TV feed.

Hiber-nation
25-11-2020, 11:35 AM
if cliff posted on .net he'd be all over this thread like a cheap suit



mon the cliff

He used to...PC Stamp was his user name.

I like him, he's improved massively.

Iggy Pope
25-11-2020, 06:24 PM
Aye I meant the more excitable fans. 😂

I can think of one who would be pretty excitable, if irritable, and could weigh in with the latest for us on how Hearts are doing as he went.

phoenixfire
25-11-2020, 08:02 PM
Cliffs a class act , and a respected keeper of the law when he was pc stamp:thumbsup::not worth

Jonnyboy
25-11-2020, 08:17 PM
Having commentated for Hibs TV in the olden days I can tell you it's not easy to do. Disappointed that somebody has had a dig at Cliff who does, in my opinion, a very good job. I also like Tam's input, as a former player he can offer thoughts on aspects of the game that we, as supporters, may see differently

Callum_62
25-11-2020, 08:29 PM
Need a whole new first team and production crew at this rate

:wink::greengrin

Ive watched Hibs TV back from when we had what i assume was a handheld video camera and I believe Stewart Crowther done the comms

Cliff is absolutely fine

Peevemor
25-11-2020, 08:43 PM
Need a whole new first team and production crew at this rate

:wink::greengrin

Ive watched Hibs TV back from when we had what i assume was a handheld video camera and I believe Stewart Crowther done the comms

Cliff is absolutely fineI remember the "live" text updates on 56k dial-up.

Goooaaaal!

CMurdoch
25-11-2020, 10:04 PM
Folk that get paid are fair game but hard to believe posters are having a go at a guy that does the commentary for Brussel Sprout AND who is no far off professional standard.
I have listened to other clubs offerings and in many cases the volunteer commentators don't even know the players in the opposing team which is rubbish.
Cliff knows all the players in both teams and his tone is good. I rate the guy as highly and in some cases higher than the paid contributers. FWIW, I thought Joelle Murray was good last night. Called it as she saw it including criticising individual players which was a change.

Carheenlea
25-11-2020, 10:11 PM
I was not aware that Cliff provides his commentary for Hibs TV for free. Fair play :applause:

Eesti
25-11-2020, 10:24 PM
I was not aware that Cliff provides his commentary for Hibs TV for free. Fair play :applause:

If we had more Cliff Pikes we would be dandy. Great guy and a Hibs stalwart.

AZhibee
25-11-2020, 11:42 PM
Folk that get paid are fair game but hard to believe posters are having a go at a guy that does the commentary for Brussel Sprout AND who is no far off professional standard.
I have listened to other clubs offerings and in many cases the volunteer commentators don't even know the players in the opposing team which is rubbish.
Cliff knows all the players in both teams and his tone is good. I rate the guy as highly and in some cases higher than the paid contributers. FWIW, I thought Joelle Murray was good last night. Called it as she saw it including criticising individual players which was a change.


Indeed, from what I can tell his knowledge of the game is excellent and he does a professional level job. Even if I am away from the screen I can tell what is happening just by the pitch or cadence in his voice.

CmoantheHibs
25-11-2020, 11:43 PM
I think both Cliff and Tam do a great job. They are obviously biased but try to give a balanced appraisal and I think they work well as a team. The fact that Cliff is doing a good job and for free doesn’t seem enough to escape criticism is ridiculous in my mind. Well apart from him saying high wide and mighty. It’s obviously high wide and handsome😁

NAE NOOKIE
25-11-2020, 11:47 PM
Jeezo, folk will have a go at anything, the guy does a very decent job and as others have pointed out does it for nothing. Mind, when he does get over excited he sounds a bit like an out of control Dalek ....... Exteeeeeeerminate !!! :greengrin

JimBHibees
27-11-2020, 12:55 PM
I think both Cliff and Tam do a great job. They are obviously biased but try to give a balanced appraisal and I think they work well as a team. The fact that Cliff is doing a good job and for free doesn’t seem enough to escape criticism is ridiculous in my mind. Well apart from him saying high wide and mighty. It’s obviously high wide and handsome😁

Absolutely agree think they are both very good.

IberianHibernian
27-11-2020, 08:05 PM
Reading this thread it seems obvious that overseas fans who`ve listened to Cliff for years have no complaints at all and really appreciate his efforts . I also like Tam McManus this season and thought Kevin Harper was good when he was on Hibs TV too . Cliff`s commentaries seem much calmer and more neutral this season than before which may upset some viewers / listeners though personally I prefer it that way as I prefer a fairer commentary ( don`t agree with previous comments about commentators of other clubs´TY service - when we were in Championship ( was that right name ? ) I remember very good and fair commentaries by Raith and St Mirren / Ayr United ( University of West of Scotland Media Studies students I think who commentated on both teams ) - not sure about TV services of OF or Hearts as I`ve never listened to them .

stu in nottingham
27-11-2020, 11:41 PM
I first met Cliff many years ago around the outset of Hibs in the media and consider him an old pal. He's a lovely chap and you'd find it hard to find someone who cared about Hibs more than him.

I find he has a very reasoned and balanced way of looking at the game in general and enjoy reading and listening to the things he has to say.

He's a hockey man too so we have that in common. :greengrin

In recent times I've had the opportunity to listen a little more to his commentaries and really enjoyed them. Maybe a little toned down from previous and possibly all the better for it in my humble opinion. I think he's excellent and strikes a good balance. He does a grand job.

matty_f
28-11-2020, 12:45 AM
I first met Cliff many years ago around the outset of Hibs in the media and consider him an old pal. He's a lovely chap and you'd find it hard to find someone who cared about Hibs more than him.

I find he has a very reasoned and balanced way of looking at the game in general and enjoy reading and listening to the things he has to say.

He's a hockey man too so we have that in common. :greengrin

In recent times I've had the opportunity to listen a little more to his commentaries and really enjoyed them. Maybe a little toned down from previous and possibly all the better for it in my humble opinion. I think he's excellent and strikes a good balance. He does a grand job.

I know Cliff as well, he’sa really good guy and his commentary is absolutely fine!

Viva_Palmeiras
28-11-2020, 02:01 AM
How on Earth I managed to listen to CelticTV (probably an “interesting” feed or periscope) it seems like their contract dictates
Then need to mention the word “Paradise” literally every 5 mins.

PeeJay
28-11-2020, 10:47 AM
Reading this thread it seems obvious that overseas fans who`ve listened to Cliff for years have no complaints at all and really appreciate his efforts . I also like Tam McManus this season and thought Kevin Harper was good when he was on Hibs TV too . Cliff`s commentaries seem much calmer and more neutral this season than before which may upset some viewers / listeners though personally I prefer it that way as I prefer a fairer commentary ( don`t agree with previous comments about commentators of other clubs´TY service - when we were in Championship ( was that right name ? ) I remember very good and fair commentaries by Raith and St Mirren / Ayr United ( University of West of Scotland Media Studies students I think who commentated on both teams ) - not sure about TV services of OF or Hearts as I`ve never listened to them .

Good post, Cliff's a fine commentator and McManus has been a great addition to the team - you're spot on too about the smaller club commentary teams - no real problems with a bit of bias as the volunteers are all fans - many thanks to each and every one of the many guys who have volunteered their services to Hibs TV down the years - the service has really come of age ...

AlbertK86
28-11-2020, 01:49 PM
Could someone ask him to include some excitement in his voice. With no crowd, a good commentator can add some atmosphere. Cliff is as boring as Martin Tyler.

Aye right mate !! Boy does a great job


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Peevemor
28-11-2020, 01:56 PM
Irish Dave on today, who also does a great job :aok:

Billy Whizz
28-11-2020, 02:01 PM
Irish Dave on today, who also does a great job :aok:

He’s a good lad, and a volunteer as well

hibee
28-11-2020, 02:50 PM
Irish Dave on today, who also does a great job :aok:

Is he the same Irish Dave that used to broadcast the games illegally on Facebook and add his own commentary?

Bright_Hibee
28-11-2020, 02:59 PM
Is he the same Irish Dave that used to broadcast the games illegally on Facebook and add his own commentary?

Yes and he's still not very good at commentating in my opinion. We used to be spoiled for choice between Cliff, Martin, John and Luke in times gone by, now we've got Cliff and a huge drop in quality to Dave.

tamig
28-11-2020, 03:03 PM
Yes and he's still not very good at commentating in my opinion. We used to be spoiled for choice between Cliff, Martin, John and Luke in times gone by, now we've got Cliff and a huge drop in quality to Dave.

I think the Irish boy is an upgrade tbh. I’ve not heard too many mentions of the 18 yard line or 18 yard box today which seems to be Cliff’s stock cliched unit of distance bassline. Refreshing.

overdrive
28-11-2020, 03:19 PM
I quite like the Irish guy. First time I’ve heard him.

Peevemor
28-11-2020, 03:20 PM
I quite like the Irish guy. First time I’ve heard him.I think he commentates very well.

Bright_Hibee
28-11-2020, 03:52 PM
I think the Irish boy is an upgrade tbh. I’ve not heard too many mentions of the 18 yard line or 18 yard box today which seems to be Cliff’s stock cliched unit of distance bassline. Refreshing.

Each to their own but Cliff's player identification and knowledge is much better. Dave is the worst commentator Hibs TV has had in terms of general quality. I'd hate to be listening to him as a UK fan with only audio coverage, you'd not know what was going on

Peevemor
28-11-2020, 03:55 PM
Each to their own but Cliff's player identification and knowledge is much better. Dave is the worst commentator Hibs TV has had in terms of general quality. I'd hate to be listening to him as a UK fan with only audio coverage, you'd not know what was going onIs commentating not like most things though, in that the more you do the better you'll become?

I think Dave, as another volunteer, does very well.

Hiber-nation
28-11-2020, 04:01 PM
Each to their own but Cliff's player identification and knowledge is much better. Dave is the worst commentator Hibs TV has had in terms of general quality. I'd hate to be listening to him as a UK fan with only audio coverage, you'd not know what was going on

Totally agree, Dave was ok but Cliff has a better knowledge of the players and of the game all round.

Billy Whizz
28-11-2020, 04:13 PM
Yes and he's still not very good at commentating in my opinion. We used to be spoiled for choice between Cliff, Martin, John and Luke in times gone by, now we've got Cliff and a huge drop in quality to Dave.

Do you like anyone

Bright_Hibee
28-11-2020, 04:15 PM
Is commentating not like most things though, in that the more you do the better you'll become?

I think Dave, as another volunteer, does very well.

I do know that he is a volunteer, like they all are. I've been a subscriber for several years. Guys like Cliff, Martin, Connor, Keith, John and Luke were all volunteers but performed at a level very close to what I would expect to hear from mainstream journalists. I think the fact that Luke is on Sky and both Cliff and Keith come from a radio background proves that point, both John and Connor were young and John went full-time at the club for a few years and helped improve things like the programme and other things on the website and Hibs TV. The difference in quality between the ones I've said above and Dave is quite stark. He is better at co-commentary but I'd prefer a former player to do it or even Keith to come back

Bright_Hibee
28-11-2020, 04:17 PM
Do you like anyone

Can you read? Genuine question as I praise others in my post. Maybe reread it with your glasses on rather than taking a petty dig at me

Carheenlea
28-11-2020, 04:40 PM
Do you like anyone


Can you read? Genuine question as I praise others in my post. Maybe reread it with your glasses on rather than taking a petty dig at me

You can add your name to his list now Billy!

Bright_Hibee
28-11-2020, 04:50 PM
You can add your name to his list now Billy!

Can you state where I was hating on everyone in my post please? I pay for a product and I can rightly criticise things. I'm not just some cantankerous auld codger, though my wife might disagree. I'm just defending myself against Billy being a bit snide is all

Billy Whizz
28-11-2020, 04:53 PM
Can you state where I was hating on everyone in my post please? I pay for a product and I can rightly criticise things. I'm not just some cantankerous auld codger, though my wife might disagree. I'm just defending myself against Billy being a bit snide is all

The guy is a volunteer and doing it for free, so give him a bit of slack please
I thought he did just fine today

Northernhibee
28-11-2020, 04:55 PM
The guy is a volunteer and doing it for free, so give him a bit of slack please
I thought he did just fine today

Aye, he was fine. No complaints from me.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
28-11-2020, 05:19 PM
I like Cliffs commentary, balanced and honest. That'll do for me.

Iggy Pope
28-11-2020, 08:13 PM
Yes and he's still not very good at commentating in my opinion. We used to be spoiled for choice between Cliff, Martin, John and Luke in times gone by, now we've got Cliff and a huge drop in quality to Dave.

We simply need more disciples for the spread of the Word. Has to be a priority in the next transfer window.

dphibs
28-11-2020, 09:49 PM
I don’t understand the love in with cliff !! I think his commentary is boring and mundane. The guy today made the game sound more interesting than it was.

gaz1875
28-11-2020, 09:55 PM
I don’t understand the love in with cliff !! I think his commentary is boring and mundane. The guy today made the game sound more interesting than it was.

Haha I was about to post the same, he did make the game sound better than it was, so done a good job :agree:

FilipinoHibs
28-11-2020, 10:19 PM
I thought Dave was a bit bland and lacking of football game knowledge today. Prefer as second commentator or half time analysis. Tam is the real plus and adds so much game knowledge from his inside view as a former player. People could learn a lot about the game by listening to him.
Been listening to the HibsTV commentary for 6 years since I left Edinburgh and Cliff is by far the best main commentator.

The Baldmans Comb
28-11-2020, 10:55 PM
So Cliff Pike is/was PC Stamp...how interesting.

He is a very good commentator, nice balance, good knowledge, easy to listen to and interacts well with guests.

Tam the Bam will be getting paid as will the "Billy Boy" and Cliff Pike deserves something for his trouble as well.

JimBHibees
01-12-2020, 06:33 AM
I think he commentates very well.

Yep thought he was good, enthusiastic and seems to know his stuff. Thought he bounced off Tam well.

Greenbeard
01-12-2020, 07:12 AM
I don’t understand the love in with cliff !! I think his commentary is boring and mundane. The guy today made the game sound more interesting than it was.
Maybe Irish Dave lacks the knowledge Cliff has of the players and the game in general, however in terms of audio only, he paints a much better description of what is happening and where the ball is. Too often with Cliff all you know is that the ball is in a team's possession, whether us or the oppo, is passed a couple of times between their players and the next thing "it's in the back of the net" like it's been a 50 yard goal. I started my Hibs tv sub to hear a Hibs orientated audio commentary on all games (can't get to too many) rather than the occasional BBC radio commentary, however if there is a choice, and it's Cliff on duty on Hibs TV, I'm afraid it's BBC all the way for me so I at least get a feel for where the ball is via a commentary that paints a continuous picture of what is happening on the pitch. Sorry but Cliff doesn't get pass marks in the audio-only department.

BILLYHIBS
05-12-2020, 02:51 PM
Has Cliff downed tools?

Not a peep from HIBS TV today 😃

BILLYHIBS
05-12-2020, 03:21 PM
Motherwell guys on nooo

Hibernia&Alba
05-12-2020, 04:02 PM
Could someone ask him to include some excitement in his voice. With no crowd, a good commentator can add some atmosphere. Cliff is as boring as Martin Tyler.

You want him to fake it? I will get the wife to do commentary :greengrin

Iggy Pope
05-03-2021, 05:01 PM
Can you state where I was hating on everyone in my post please? I pay for a product and I can rightly criticise things. I'm not just some cantankerous auld codger, though my wife might disagree. I'm just defending myself against Billy being a bit snide is all

Hey Bright guy, we are all paying for the product right now but it seems only you get to criticise, when I do it I’m irate! You’re some cookie.