Hearts

[The dook]

do they raise there game against Hibs? I just watched Dunfermline beat them easy, my children and grandchildren don't believe me when I say we beat them routinely .whats been the difference for the last 30 years.?

[Paul1642]

Absolutely. They have been honking for the best part of the last decade yet their record for us is infuriatingly decent.

[Santa Cruz]

This is an interesting point that I don’t think been raised before!

[Since452]

Of course they do. Every game against Hibs is their cup final. Back to losing games in a piss poor championship

[BILLYHIBS]

No another Hearts thread

Dearie me !

[Smartie]

Lovely start to the weekend.

Let's enjoy it for a bit before we use it as a weapon against our own team.

[Andy74]

We probably won’t play them again for a year or so. Are we going to have this after every game Hearts don’t win until then?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

We probably won’t play them again for a year or so. Are we going to have this after every game Hearts don’t win until then?

Hopefully playing them in the League Cup 1/4 final in less than 4 weeks time..

[Kano Kirsty]

do they raise there game against Hibs? I just watched Dunfermline beat them easy, my children and grandchildren don't believe me when I say we beat them routinely .whats been the difference for the last 30 years.?

Sadly I’m too young to remember beating them routinely, has that ever been the case? For whatever reason though, they seem to be able to be pish against all other teams but sneak the results against us? God knows why that is when, on paper, we usually have the far better team.

[Since452]

**** Hearts. Watching them pathetically lose in the Championship on a Friday night was very pleasing. Pathetic football club.

[JimBHibees]

**** Hearts. Watching them pathetically lose in the Championship on a Friday night was very pleasing. Pathetic football club.

Yep brilliant start to the weekend brings out the yam trolls as usual. Absolutely wonderful.

[hibbysam]

Hopefully playing them in the League Cup 1/4 final in less than 4 weeks time..

Hopefully not, I’d rather they got pumped next week, and out the cup at the earliest opportunity every competition they play in.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Hopefully not, I’d rather they got pumped next week, and out the cup at the earliest opportunity every competition they play in.

I agree, but think its unlikely.
They will be in the draw, and hopefully we will to - and I'd relish the chance to play them.

[CLASS OF 72 -73]

No another Hearts thread

Dearie me !

Valid thread highlighting how mentally we are poor. Random on form limited teams give them a game or beat them and we historically bottle it. Sad Fact

[Snedz]

Its bad enough being beating in the Championship but even worse getting beaten on the Friday Night. Long weekend for the shysters.

Yaaaasssss!!!

Up you Jambos

Especially to the ones on here.

:thumbsup:

[hibbysam]

I agree, but think its unlikely.
They will be in the draw, and hopefully we will to - and I'd relish the chance to play them.

Don’t disagree with any of that, just the ‘hopefully we play them’ bit, I hope we don’t as it would mean they’d potentially been pumped by whatever crap they’ve been drawn against.

[Magpie]

We probably won’t play them for another couple of seasons as they fight their way back to the top flight.

[Stuart93]

I think the difference is the fact they were pressured by the pars all game. Didn’t get time on the ball.

We, as seems to be the case just now, let them get over the half way line before we got near them

Get in their faces and they can’t play

[Since452]

Once again I'd like to reiterate that Hearts are pathetic little football club

[TheHarpy76]

My Jambo mates are worried. A few of them felt that they would lose tonight (last night). They didn’t look like a side that will run away with the championship to me.

[Snedz]

My Jambo mates are worried. A few of them felt that they would lose tonight (last night). They didn’t look like a side that will run away with the championship to me.

They (Jambo's) have every right to be worried. Dunfermline looked a class above them. Naismith and Boyce looked finished imo.

[BILLYHIBS]

Valid thread highlighting how mentally we are poor. Random on form limited teams give them a game or beat them and we historically bottle it. Sad Fact
Difficult to disagree but try keying in Hearts in the search engine ?

We have a generic thread,

We have a thread on their horrendous tv programme

We have a thread on the semi final

We have a thread on their travails in the summer

We have a thread on Stendel

Liam Boyce

Hearts pay to beat us

Etc etc etc ...

Who the f#@k cares ?

I personally struggle to name any Hearts players

Rat Boy Naismith....Plooky Gordon ....Jamie Walker.....’...?

We need to rid ourselves of this unhealthy obsession with all things Hearts

Look at last season for example Hearts could beat Hibs maybe The Rangers and no one else

Whoopy do!

We need to concentrate - focus on us

Hearts are dugsۤt

I will not even think about them until the next time we play them in the Cup which will be sometime soon no doubt

There is also the option of ignoring this thread

Rant over :greengrin

[FilipinoHibs]

Yes watched it here. Could have been 3 or 4 before they scored.

Cup semi was played in horrendous conditions and was a game of fine margins. We should have had a penalty in the last minute of normal time. If our spot kick had gone in there would be a different narrative on here.

I was scunered by the defeat and only just getting some enthusiasm back for the Hibs.

[mjhibby]

do they raise there game against Hibs? I just watched Dunfermline beat them easy, my children and grandchildren don't believe me when I say we beat them routinely .whats been the difference for the last 30 years.?

It is obvious to everybody that they do indeed raise their game against us. They only won four games last season in the spl and two were against us. Invariably they then can’t replicate the effort and performance on the next few games and so it proved last night. Dunfermline look a decent out fit but hertz should be winning that league by a distance. They won’t because they aren’t as good as they think they are. If they don’t win the league I can’t see them winning the play off day day against st Mirren. As regards the derby results they are three points like any other game. We’re winning games we last a son were drawing hence we are fourth. Hertz biggest problem is an ageing and injury prone squad . With injuries far more regular due to this strange year I can see them struggling to get out of the championship. I actually forgot the game was on but a nice wee surprise when I seen the result and watching the game later. As with most folk the game at er at 3pm is my focus.

[Since452]

Yes watched it here. Could have been 3 or 4 before they scored.

Cup semi was played in horrendous conditions and was a game of fine margins. We should have had a penalty in the last minute of normal time. If our spot kick had gone in there would be a different narrative on here.

I was scunered by the defeat and only just getting some enthusiasm back for the Hibs.

We dominated for long spells in that game. It was very one sided at times. The conditions were definitely a bit of a leveller and we ended up making hard work of it. They got lucky but won at the end of the day, they found a way to and we didn't. Still frustrated by not winning that. They aren't very good really. Scraping past East Fife and Cowdenbeath. I watched their game against Dundee and thought Dundee were better for long spells despite the scoreline.

[Eyrie]

I didn't even know Hearts were playing last night until I read this thread.

Not that it would have made any difference as I was watching Hibs Women yesterday evening. I'll confess to giving up at half time though.

[NC1875]

They certainly do. And unfortunately we very rarely raise ours against them.

[A Hi-Bee]

As it says **** the hertz, way too many jambo ***** on this forum now, we are all Hibs.
**** the hertz.
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin :greengrin:greengrin

[hibbysam]

They certainly do. And unfortunately we very rarely raise ours against them.

I keep reading this, and maybe in years gone by it may have been correct, but in recent times (arguably since relegation) that hasn't rung true. We beat them about as much as they beat us, with some draws chucked in. It’s two sides nowadays which in the main has players of a similar ability level, trading wins. We’ve won the last two at tynecastle, they’ve won the last two at ER. They scored their penalty at hampden when we missed ours. That’s not to do with their will to win, just unfortunate.

[matty_f]

I keep reading this, and maybe in years gone by it may have been correct, but in recent times (arguably since relegation) that hasn't rung true. We beat them about as much as they beat us, with some draws chucked in. It’s two sides nowadays which in the main has players of a similar ability level, trading wins. We’ve won the last two at tynecastle, they’ve won the last two at ER. They scored their penalty at hampden when we missed ours. That’s not to do with their will to win, just unfortunate.
Absolutely correct.

Some were stop trying to convince ourselves that they’ve got some sort of superior will to win derbies the better. Recent history doesn’t back it up at all.

[PolmontHibby]

do they raise there game against Hibs?

An easy no - they have a way superior win rate against Dunfermline, one game means nothing.

[Col2]

They are SO slow. Boyce should get 20 plus goals but is hardly prolific.

Neilson signings in Halliday, Roberts, Frear and the centre half they got look bang average.

I still think they will win it but it’s not a certainty.

[Since90+2]

They got out of jail against us. They are not a particularly good side and it's far from certain they will win the league. If Raith win today that's 2 sides 4 points clear of them.

[monarch]

I keep reading this, and maybe in years gone by it may have been correct, but in recent times (arguably since relegation) that hasn't rung true. We beat them about as much as they beat us, with some draws chucked in. It’s two sides nowadays which in the main has players of a similar ability level, trading wins. We’ve won the last two at tynecastle, they’ve won the last two at ER. They scored their penalty at hampden when we missed ours. That’s not to do with their will to win, just unfortunate.

Exactly. The Gorgie PR machine appears to have brainwashed a number of posters on here.
For the avoidance of doubt, during the period to date starting after the horrendous 2012 cup final, Hearts have 11 derby wins, Hibs have 10 with 9 games drawn. You could say that an extra time penalty is all that separates us. Hardly evidence that “Hearts habitually beat Hibs” as quoted by the creepy estate agent Deans on Sportsound during the summer.

An interesting comparison is that between 1947 and 1952 Hearts won 9 and Hibs 2 with 1 draw. Going by some reactions on here it’s just as well that the Hibs.net didn’t exist then.

Oh by the way Hibs won 3 league championships during that period.

[CMurdoch]

Exactly. The Gorgie PR machine appears to have brainwashed a number of posters on here.
For the avoidance of doubt, during the period to date starting after the horrendous 2012 cup final, Hearts have 11 derby wins, Hibs have 10 with 9 games drawn. You could say that an extra time penalty is all that separates us. Hardly evidence that “Hearts habitually beat Hibs” as quoted by the creepy estate agent Deans on Sportsound during the summer.

An interesting comparison is that between 1947 and 1952 Hearts won 9 and Hibs 2 with 1 draw. Going by some reactions on here it’s just as well that the Hibs.net didn’t exist then.

Oh by the way Hibs won 3 league championships during that period.

Good post.
I've never bought into any of the daft chat

[Ringothedog]

Sadly I’m too young to remember beating them routinely, has that ever been the case? For whatever reason though, they seem to be able to be pish against all other teams but sneak the results against us? God knows why that is when, on paper, we usually have the far better team.

When I first started going to games with my friends I only saw us lose twice by the time I was 19 in a ten year period covering 26 games

[ekhibee]

When we get beat by them I do find myself being more critical of Hibs' performance than anything Hearts have done tbh, the teams full of cloggers that Hearts used to have are long gone IMO, they just look a pretty soft side with average ability which makes some of our performances against them look even worse.

To make a comparison, one of my favourite trainers in horse racing is John Gosden. He has produced some of the best horses that have ever raced in Europe and America. Unlike other trainers, who spend more time focussing purely on their own horses and not the opposition, he spends hours, even days studying the performances of the other horses his horses are racing against in the more prestigous races, so that he is prepared for most eventualities, and can adopt different tactics if need be.

Maybe Hibs could take a leaf out of his book that way. Too often we have had better quality players than Hearts and still end up on the wrong end of the result. Maybe the management team should spend more time studying the opposition than they do, what style they use, where their strengths and weaknesses are and adapting our game accordingly, and just as importantly, replace players who struggle to perform the particular duty asked of them in these games. I suppose that goes for any game we play, but it seems to work for Hearts when they play us.

[SHODAN]

Exactly. The Gorgie PR machine appears to have brainwashed a number of posters on here.
For the avoidance of doubt, during the period to date starting after the horrendous 2012 cup final, Hearts have 11 derby wins, Hibs have 10 with 9 games drawn. You could say that an extra time penalty is all that separates us. Hardly evidence that “Hearts habitually beat Hibs” as quoted by the creepy estate agent Deans on Sportsound during the summer.

An interesting comparison is that between 1947 and 1952 Hearts won 9 and Hibs 2 with 1 draw. Going by some reactions on here it’s just as well that the Hibs.net didn’t exist then.

Oh by the way Hibs won 3 league championships during that period.

Hibs have had a superior team to Hearts for the majority of that period.

If the quality of the teams were switched do you think the record would be the same?

[G B Young]

The answer to the OP is yes of course they do. Neilson admitted they started pre season training six weeks early wih the sole purpose beating Hibs in the cup game. Jack Ross, on the other hand simply said we'll focus on that game when the time comes when he got asked about it a few weeks beforehand.

We still should have beaten them though despite Hearts' obsessive preparation.

[hibbysam]

Hibs have had a superior team to Hearts for the majority of that period.

If the quality of the teams were switched do you think the record would be the same?

Have we really? In that time we have been relegated by being utter rank (hearts got more points than us that season), and then finished country miles behind them in the championship, and then spent two years in a league below them.

Our standard of squads have been similar, and even now is fairly similar although we are slightly stronger, but over a prolonged period the results are basically as id expect.