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Seveno
16-11-2020, 12:17 PM
This young man deserves more game time and I was surprised that he did not get a start yesterday with Doidge being out.

He showed real class with both his run and finish for his goal and clearly has goals in him.

Robbo6-2
16-11-2020, 12:40 PM
From the outside looking in hes not getting a fair crack at it.

Onceinawhile
16-11-2020, 12:47 PM
He's not an out and out striker though, he's more of a left sided forward / midfielder.

So instead of replacing doidge, he's more in line to replace Murphy or Magennis. Given they are two of our marquee signings so far this year, unless we play a 4-3-3 there isn't necessarily a position in the team for him.

hfcok
16-11-2020, 02:21 PM
Would do a far better job than the boy Wright😳

The 90+2
16-11-2020, 02:25 PM
Would do a far better job than the boy Wright😳

They play in different positions?

Prof. Shaggy
16-11-2020, 04:34 PM
He's not an out and out striker though, he's more of a left sided forward / midfielder.

So instead of replacing doidge, he's more in line to replace Murphy or Magennis. Given they are two of our marquee signings so far this year, unless we play a 4-3-3 there isn't necessarily a position in the team for him.

I'm not sure that Boyle is an out and out striker either.

Tricla
16-11-2020, 06:31 PM
He's not an out and out striker though, he's more of a left sided forward / midfielder.

So instead of replacing doidge, he's more in line to replace Murphy or Magennis. Given they are two of our marquee signings so far this year, unless we play a 4-3-3 there isn't necessarily a position in the team for him.

Dunno like. He looks like a finisher to me.

MWHIBBIES
16-11-2020, 07:00 PM
Dunno like. He looks like a finisher to me.

Being a good finisher doesn't make a striker tbf.

wookie70
16-11-2020, 07:07 PM
He looks good coming in off the left. Good option and means Murphy can play at full tilt and we can bring on Gullan when he tires. Jamie, Daz and Mallan are the only ones who looked like they wanted into the first team during the cup games

The 90+2
16-11-2020, 07:25 PM
Being a good finisher doesn't make a striker tbf.

It didn’t do Deeks any harm 👍

MWHIBBIES
16-11-2020, 07:39 PM
It didn’t do Deeks any harm 👍

A lot of his best football was coming from the left tbh.

The point is, Gullans best football has been from the left. His finishing ability has no effect on his best position imo. Some deadly finishers have been midfielders/wingers.

J-C
16-11-2020, 08:04 PM
Doesn't matter if he's an out and out striker, attacking mid or best off the left, the fact is he's a pretty decent option to have and knows where the goal is. Ronaldo and Messi are not real strikers but have scored hundreds between them, Ronaldo started as a winger and Messi as an attacking mid. Gullan is a good prospect learning his trade and for me should be getting more game time and as far as I'm concerned he should be ahead of Wright for a starting spot.

kiwihibby
16-11-2020, 08:52 PM
They play in different positions?

I think that Gullan and Nisbet partnership up front might be worth a try. They are both young with loads of energy and goal scoring ability.

Andy74
16-11-2020, 08:54 PM
I think that Gullan and Nisbet partnership up front might be worth a try. They are both young with loads of energy and goal scoring ability.

Doidge shouldn’t be getting dropped though.

The 90+2
16-11-2020, 08:57 PM
Doidge shouldn’t be getting dropped though.

If it makes the team better, why not? It’s all about a squad game as you ram down people’s throats all the time 😘

The 90+2
16-11-2020, 08:58 PM
I think that Gullan and Nisbet partnership up front might be worth a try. They are both young with loads of energy and goal scoring ability.

I can’t see Jack trying it if he didn’t the games against the lower league hearts opponents. Get you though.

Andy74
16-11-2020, 08:59 PM
If it makes the team better, why not? It’s all about a squad game as you ram down people’s throats all the time 😘

Can’t recall ‘ramming’ anything about squads?

Anyway, it wouldn’t make the team better just now dropping Doidge, that’s why we shouldn’t be doing it.

The 90+2
16-11-2020, 08:59 PM
A lot of his best football was coming from the left tbh.

The point is, Gullans best football has been from the left. His finishing ability has no effect on his best position imo. Some deadly finishers have been midfielders/wingers.

I have full confidence hammer will make it. Most confidence since fletcher then Cummings even when he missed that pen. He’s got it and needs his chance mate. Cummings wouldn’t have been scoring at Ibrox and pbs year before. It’s a tough one because we are good up top but Gullan will make us potentially more money they Doidge or Murphy. Thank god im not the manager (aye and so are many too)

JimBHibees
16-11-2020, 09:26 PM
Doesn't matter if he's an out and out striker, attacking mid or best off the left, the fact is he's a pretty decent option to have and knows where the goal is. Ronaldo and Messi are not real strikers but have scored hundreds between them, Ronaldo started as a winger and Messi as an attacking mid. Gullan is a good prospect learning his trade and for me should be getting more game time and as far as I'm concerned he should be ahead of Wright for a starting spot.

Yesterday would have been the time to try out Nisbet and Gullan but obviously Wright was preferred. Good for Jamie to score as will give him a boost and hope he starts getting more game time from the bench in upcoming games.

Mr. Wonderful
16-11-2020, 10:05 PM
Doidge shouldn’t be getting dropped though.

Why not? He's largely not been at it this season so far. If he's not scoring he doesn't offer any creativity, I like him.but he's not indispensable.

hfcok
16-11-2020, 10:17 PM
They play in different positions?
Not all the time,🤔Wright has been used on the wing as well, something Gullan has also done, but what position is Wright suited for ??

500miles
17-11-2020, 09:38 AM
Gullan, like Murphy and Wright, is best at operating in a front 3, off a central striker. Probably decent at the tip of a midfield diamond as well

Northernhibee
17-11-2020, 09:51 AM
Why not? He's largely not been at it this season so far. If he's not scoring he doesn't offer any creativity, I like him.but he's not indispensable.

If he doesn’t score Doidge always offers a lot. His aerial prowess allows us to get the ball forward and for it to stick.

EVENTUALLY
17-11-2020, 10:46 AM
If he doesn’t score Doidge always offers a lot. His aerial prowess allows us to get the ball forward and for it to stick.

I'm afraid he doesn't offer a lot very often and the ball rarely sticks.

Gullan in my view is a better option. He is a far better finisher. When the team play the ball into the box on the floor as they did 3 times to score in the 2nd half against Dundee he is better equipped than Christian to knock in a chance.

Peevemor
17-11-2020, 11:13 AM
I'm afraid he doesn't offer a lot very often and the ball rarely sticks.

Gullan in my view is a better option. He is a far better finisher. When the team play the ball into the box on the floor as they did 3 times to score in the 2nd half against Dundee he is better equipped than Christian to knock in a chance.I'm not writing off Gullan, but I disagree.

Andy74
17-11-2020, 11:20 AM
I'm afraid he doesn't offer a lot very often and the ball rarely sticks.

Gullan in my view is a better option. He is a far better finisher. When the team play the ball into the box on the floor as they did 3 times to score in the 2nd half against Dundee he is better equipped than Christian to knock in a chance.

No disrespect to Gullan but all of that is nonsense.

calumhibee1
17-11-2020, 12:14 PM
I'm afraid he doesn't offer a lot very often and the ball rarely sticks.

Gullan in my view is a better option. He is a far better finisher. When the team play the ball into the box on the floor as they did 3 times to score in the 2nd half against Dundee he is better equipped than Christian to knock in a chance.

Not at all for me. Doidge was on course for over 20 goals last season. Gullan is nowhere near that level yet.

MWHIBBIES
17-11-2020, 12:16 PM
I'm afraid he doesn't offer a lot very often and the ball rarely sticks.

Gullan in my view is a better option. He is a far better finisher. When the team play the ball into the box on the floor as they did 3 times to score in the 2nd half against Dundee he is better equipped than Christian to knock in a chance.

What is there to suggest he is a far better finisher? I'd say Doidge is the far better and more proven finisher.

Doidge offers a lot. Seriously, if we play without him against anyone decent, you'll notice. Gullan has a long way to go yet.

Seveno
17-11-2020, 05:31 PM
Not at all for me. Doidge was on course for over 20 goals last season. Gullan is nowhere near that level yet.

Well he isn’t going to score many goals sitting on the bench.

Since452
17-11-2020, 05:58 PM
Gullan is a decent young player but I still maintain we need a better option from the bench if we want to be challenging Aberdeen. No way in the world he should be starting ahead of Doidge. Crazy talk.

Seveno
18-11-2020, 12:19 PM
Gullan is a decent young player but I still maintain we need a better option from the bench if we want to be challenging Aberdeen. No way in the world he should be starting ahead of Doidge. Crazy talk.

It is not necessarily a case of replacing Doidge. My original point was that he could have been given a start last Saturday when Doidge was out. We will never find out how good he can be if he just gets brought on with 15 minutes to go. We need to find other options to give him more game time.

Smartie
18-11-2020, 01:09 PM
Doidge has a decent bit of credit in the bank from last season but he hasn’t started this season much better than he started last season.

I wouldn’t be playing Gullan ahead of him just yet, but if his form doesn’t improve soon then it’s only reasonable that we start looking at other squad members to see if they might do better. Gullan showed what he might be capable of during his appearance the other day - something we’ve been needing our squad players to do, even if it only serves to give Doidge a bit of a kick up the backside.

500miles
18-11-2020, 01:53 PM
If we get crosses into the box, Doidge is a better option. If we go 3 up front, Nisbet's link up play is better, and Gullan, Boyle, Murphy and Wright play thier best on left and right of that 3.

scotiaf
18-11-2020, 03:06 PM
Doidge brings more than goals though, he does the other stuff. As long as one striker is scoring the goals most games and the other chips in with 10-12 a season. It’s a good mix. Gullan probably should have started last week but we bought/brought drey to the team so he needs a run also, albeit he was a passenger in the last game.

Centre Hawf
18-11-2020, 05:55 PM
I think Gullan deserves more chances, but my first impressions so far is that he isn't ready for the Premiership battle. He's done well so far in our Betfred cup games which is no surprise because I think the lad is probably operating on a Championship level at best so far.

A loan in January I think would be a fantastic option for him to go spend 6 months playing for someone like an Alloa or even go to Raith again. The problem we have is we have zero depth so would need to go sign someone. But at the moment I don't think he's getting the game time he needs to develop into a Premiership striker and I'd rather we had some journeyman or loanee on our bench while Gullan played 90 minutes every week for half a season.