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The 90+2
26-10-2020, 11:39 PM
All the bookies.

Reality check for anyone thinking this will be easy.

Jack Ross read this too please and get every single player up for this and not a stroll in the park ****.

leither17
27-10-2020, 12:03 AM
13/8 hearts
8/5 hibs
Sky bet

HibeeSince85
27-10-2020, 12:04 AM
All the bookies.

Reality check for anyone thinking this will be easy.

Jack Ross read this too please and get every single player up for this and not a stroll in the park ****.

Where? SkyBet has Hibs favourites and most bookies will be the same.

King Cosell
27-10-2020, 12:30 AM
Where? SkyBet has Hibs favourites and most bookies will be the same.

Hearts slight favourites with Ladbrokes:

Hearts 29/20
Hibs 8/5
Draw 2/1

cocteautwin
27-10-2020, 04:35 AM
Hearts slight favourites with Ladbrokes:

Hearts 29/20
Hibs 8/5
Draw 2/1

What happens if it's a draw? Extra time and penalties or just penalties? Or a money spinning replay at Easter Road?

Sir David Gray
27-10-2020, 06:43 AM
What happens if it's a draw? Extra time and penalties or just penalties? Or a money spinning replay at Easter Road?

Extra time and penalties.

Onion
27-10-2020, 06:53 AM
Hearts slight favourites with Ladbrokes:

Hearts 29/20
Hibs 8/5
Draw 2/1

Usually, not surprised with Hearts being favourites but this one is baffling. Hearts have played 2 proper games in 7 months in a lower division, while JR has Hibs competing at there top end of the Premier. Cannot think of any other situation where this would be the case. Weird.

Greenbeard
27-10-2020, 07:01 AM
On recent form on paper you'd think we'd be nearer evens and them nearer 2/1. I have sometimes had a wee "compensation saver bet" on the opposition for Scotland games but even if them lot were 5/1 on Saturday I just couldn't. Don't want any maroon tinted winnings in my wallet.

hibeedonald
27-10-2020, 07:19 AM
Hearts slight favourites on PP. Going large on Hibs...

Keith_M
27-10-2020, 07:23 AM
Would this be the same lot of bookies that thought the Killie v Hibs game was off on Saturday?

:wink:



https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?348836-Game-on-tomorrow

Frazerbob
27-10-2020, 07:32 AM
I wouldn’t touch this game with a barge pole.

Gloucester Hibs
27-10-2020, 07:43 AM
Hearts very slight favourites with Hill's too - 13/8 and Hibs 17/10. It must be down to betting patterns as opposed to current form. Or do bookies take into account historical derby records (particularly at Hampden)?!

Keith_M
27-10-2020, 07:49 AM
I think the game will finish 0-0 after 90 mins and extra time.


I hope we've been practising our penalty kicks

mim
27-10-2020, 08:05 AM
13/8 hearts
8/5 hibs
Sky bet

I don't think that makes Hearts favourites.

65/40 Hearts
64/40 Hibs

mim
27-10-2020, 08:12 AM
Odds to win the cup are more interesting:

Celtic 4/9
Hibs 5/1
Aberdeen 6/1
Hearts 9/1

That's Bet365

SHODAN
27-10-2020, 08:13 AM
I think this is because as Hearts' name comes first some bookmakers erroneously think they are the "home" team.

neil7908
27-10-2020, 08:38 AM
I think the game will finish 0-0 after 90 mins and extra time.


I hope we've been practising our penalty kicks

I think low scoring draw. I generally don't bet on Hibs but if I was to I'd go 1-1. Penalties are impossible to predict imo as I barely know who would take 5 pens for us, let alone them.

B.H.F.C
27-10-2020, 08:50 AM
I think low scoring draw. I generally don't bet on Hibs but if I was to I'd go 1-1. Penalties are impossible to predict imo as I barely know who would take 5 pens for us, let alone them.

If it ended up going as far as a shootout we’ve got Hanlon and Boyle who scored in a semi final shoot out before. I think Newell and Mallan scored in the shoot out down at Kilmarnock last season. Nisbet is obviously

Obviously you don’t know who’d be on the pitch if it got that far but would fancy most of them would be.

oldbutdim
27-10-2020, 09:03 AM
I don't think that makes Hearts favourites.

65/40 Hearts
64/40 Hibs

That was my arithmetic too.
I make it Hibs (very) slight favourites on these odds.

danhibees1875
27-10-2020, 09:04 AM
I think this is because as Hearts' name comes first some bookmakers erroneously think they are the "home" team.

I've no idea but I like the idea that a multi billion pound industry where the individual businesses make hundreds of millions in profit each year but haven't quite got to grips with the idea of neutral venues yet. :greengrin

Hibs should be favourites, but not by much. Hearts have a better than championship squad.

Onceinawhile
27-10-2020, 09:39 AM
I think low scoring draw. I generally don't bet on Hibs but if I was to I'd go 1-1. Penalties are impossible to predict imo as I barely know who would take 5 pens for us, let alone them.




Nisbet, Doidge, Boyle, Hanlon, Mallan, Newell

Would be our first 6 in some variation of that order.

But it won't be going to penalties. We'll eek out a 1 or 2 goal win.

Killiehibbie
27-10-2020, 09:45 AM
I've no idea but I like the idea that a multi billion pound industry where the individual businesses make hundreds of millions in profit each year but haven't quite got to grips with the idea of neutral venues yet. :greengrin

Hibs should be favourites, but not by much. Hearts have a better than championship squad.
Lots of things this multi billion pound industry are hopeless at.

Onceinawhile
27-10-2020, 09:46 AM
Hearts are 31/20 and Hibs 17/10 at bet365, so hearts favourites there too.

Keith_M
27-10-2020, 09:48 AM
I think this is because as Hearts' name comes first some bookmakers erroneously think they are the "home" team.


That's possible, but it would also mean the bookies paid no attention to each of last season's derbies being won by the away side, plus the fact Hibs are currently accumulating a lot more points away than at home.


Hibs being the 'away' team should actually work in our favour.

blackpoolhibs
27-10-2020, 09:55 AM
I have in the past backed hearts at ridiculous odds against us, I'm sure I got 7/2 once when they beat us. I backed them because no way were they a 7/2 chance and the bookies had just got it wrong. I think they have the odds wrong here too, and will back us to win on Saturday.

Sammy7nil
27-10-2020, 10:02 AM
Lots of things this multi billion pound industry are hopeless at.

Making money is not one of them

Killiehibbie
27-10-2020, 10:07 AM
Making money is not one of them
Quite a few have went bankrupt or been taken over because they thought it was easy.
Some of them couldn't even count or apply their own rules properly.

Tyler Durden
27-10-2020, 10:23 AM
Surprised by these odds albeit the bookies struggle with their prices for a lot of Scottish football, particularly the lower leagues.

I would imagine Hibs will be into around 7/5 by kick off and slight favourites at that point. 17/10 is way too big and does present opportunities for those interested in the handicap markets.

hibsbollah
27-10-2020, 10:25 AM
Paddy Power have us as slight favourites.

FilipinoHibs
27-10-2020, 10:25 AM
I don't think that makes Hearts favourites.

65/40 Hearts
64/40 Hibs

Yes Hibs slight favourites on those odds

Pagan Hibernia
27-10-2020, 10:25 AM
I can’t understand how anyone could have hearts as favourites for this game.

that doesn’t mean they won’t win of course, unfortunately, as we all know too well... but for any neutral looking at this fixture we are ahead in every single way.

Since90+2
27-10-2020, 10:26 AM
I predict those odds will change quite a bit by kick off time.

I'd be surprised if we don't start as favourites at all bookmakers.

EskbankHibby
27-10-2020, 10:27 AM
On recent form on paper you'd think we'd be nearer evens and them nearer 2/1. I have sometimes had a wee "compensation saver bet" on the opposition for Scotland games but even if them lot were 5/1 on Saturday I just couldn't. Don't want any maroon tinted winnings in my wallet.

Foolish to ignore the lure of the maroon pound, you will regret it.

We will all miss the maroon pound and go out of business just like every other club in the SPFL including Rangers and Celtic. Juventus, Man Utd and Real Madrid too.

Or something like that.

HFC93
27-10-2020, 10:28 AM
All the bookies.

Reality check for anyone thinking this will be easy.

Jack Ross read this too please and get every single player up for this and not a stroll in the park ****.

In conclusion, Hearts aren't favourites with All the bookies. Fake news.

JOD
27-10-2020, 10:31 AM
Hibs 33/20 Hearts 6/4 (30/20) at coral as well
But Hibs shorter to win cup 5/1 against them at 8/1.bookies must think arethey some sort of bogey team to us and the fact we've never beat them at hampden. I'll be betting Hibs to reach the final. It will be shorter but takes account of xtra time penalties etc plus bookie don't like that as it only a 2 horse race and don't advertise it. You've got to ask for it.

AFKA5814_Hibs
27-10-2020, 10:46 AM
Hibs 33/20 Hearts 6/4 (30/20) at coral as well
But Hibs shorter to win cup 5/1 against them at 8/1.bookies must think arethey some sort of bogey team to us and the fact we've never beat them at hampden. I'll be betting Hibs to reach the final. It will be shorter but takes account of xtra time penalties etc plus bookie don't like that as it only a 2 horse race and don't advertise it. You've got to ask for it.

I do laugh when Hearts fans say they always beat us at Hampden. There has only ever been 2 games played at Hampden between the 2 clubs, it's not as if we play them there every year.

We could equally say we always beat Real Madrid at Easter Road. :greengrin

basehibby
27-10-2020, 10:51 AM
Without meaning to sound over confident these strike me as great prices to get some money on the Hibees.

The Yams may have had a decent start to their campaign but they are two games in against our 11 - and we have been horsed in Europe by Scandinavian sides under similar circumstances with the roles reversed.

I hope I'm right - I've no doubt they will be up for it (they always are) - but the gap in match fitness will hopefully be decisive.

Jones28
27-10-2020, 10:56 AM
I think its safe to say that derbies are a completely unknown quantity, regardless of form. Hearts have a better record in the derby, seems logical to me.

NASAHIBS
27-10-2020, 11:06 AM
Just got on with Hills at 17/10, went back in and now changed to 13/8 both teams. Take it a lot of us jumped on the 17/10:aok:

Killiehibbie
27-10-2020, 11:16 AM
Bookies aren't sure without Betfair to guide them. 7/4 available for us and 17/10 for them. Ladbrokes don't want to know 6/4 either team. Pinnacle 2.59 them and 2.68 us

bawheid
27-10-2020, 11:19 AM
My Hearts favourites were Hans Eskillson, Gordon Petric and Tepi Moilanen. Special mention for Malaury Martin.

Bostonhibby
27-10-2020, 11:22 AM
Remember the apparently more generous prices may well only be for win in 90 minutes?

Seem generous if they're either team to win outright.

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Green_one
27-10-2020, 11:23 AM
Based on current form and our record against Hearts in the cup, it looks like a decent bet.

I do not bet on footie but this one is tempting. I will settle though for a win without any extra cash

Predicting a close win and the Jambos saying they do not care ... championship more important, cup already degraded blah blah

:flag::flag::flag:

Viva_Palmeiras
27-10-2020, 11:24 AM
My Hearts favourites were Hans Eskillson, Gordon Petric and Tepi Moilanen. Special mention for Malaury Martin.

Now then... you’ve missed out on the man who put the “King” into playing (or rather not playing) for the Jambos: Larryea Kingston - remarkable innings not playing a game for the final 2 seasons at the age of 43 ;)

Since90+2
27-10-2020, 11:24 AM
Remember the apparently more generous prices may well only be for win in 90 minutes?

Seem generous if they're either team to win outright.

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They are 90 minute prices. If they were to win the tie you could back both teams and be guaranteed to win.

hibeerealist
27-10-2020, 11:25 AM
Shirley i am not alone in thinking this is the game we get even by dishing out a doing by several goals (3+)?

The 90+2
27-10-2020, 11:26 AM
I’m still going to back us to win, make no mistake about that but I’m highlighting for a neutral this is no walk in the park. We will have to be at our upmost best to get a result.

JeMeSouviens
27-10-2020, 11:27 AM
Shirley i am not alone in thinking this is the game we get even by dishing out a doing by several goals (3+)?

I think a name change is in order. How about hibeefantasist? :wink:

danhibees1875
27-10-2020, 11:27 AM
Shirley i am not alone in thinking this is the game we get even by dishing out a doing by several goals (3+)?

It's about time someone predicted a thumping ahead of a derby.

It's not been our time to get even and pump them since the last derby.

hibeejeebies
27-10-2020, 11:28 AM
Jammy Doidger we need some more of your optimism please 🤞🏽

Oscar T Grouch
27-10-2020, 11:31 AM
Is it not the case the bookies have this as an even bet and they are adjusting their odds based on the cash put on each team?

Gloucester Hibs
27-10-2020, 11:31 AM
Remember the apparently more generous prices may well only be for win in 90 minutes?

Seem generous if they're either team to win outright.

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You can get close to even money for Hibs to win in the "draw no bet" market, which is very tempting. You have the "insurance" of knowing you will get your money back if the game ends all square after 90 minutes.

Bostonhibby
27-10-2020, 11:32 AM
They are 90 minute prices. If they were to win the tie you could back both teams and be guaranteed to win.[emoji106]
So bookies are spreading the risk over 90 minutes and as ever pricing is reflecting where the money is going and their desire to keep as much of it as possible rather than just the actual difference between the 2 teams. Not that unusual. They often cover a chunk of their outright risk when there's a draw in 90 minutes.

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Bostonhibby
27-10-2020, 11:33 AM
You can get close to even money for Hibs to win in the "draw no bet" market, which is very tempting. You have the "insurance" of knowing you will get your money back if the game ends all square after 90 minutes.Agree that's a decent price for draw no bet.

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JammyDoidger
27-10-2020, 11:33 AM
Jammy Doidger we need some more of your optimism please ����

Stick with me you'll be alright boys. This is the game we have been warming up for. The weekends result against killie was massive going into this game mentally. That was a tough game and we Passed the test. We will score a few goals on Saturday. Looking through a betting perspective and I think hibs are a great price. Be interesting to see what they do when we go a couple goals infront. Do they just sit in for damage limitation or do they come on to us and allow us to pick them off?

Bostonhibby
27-10-2020, 11:36 AM
Stick with me you'll be alright boys. This is the game we have been warming up for. The weekends result against killie was massive going into this game mentally. That was a tough game and we Passed the test. We will score a few goals on Saturday. Looking through a betting perspective and I think hibs are a great price.FWIW I've a lifetime of dodgy yam results behind me as well as the ones we've thrown away but am with you this time around.

GGTTH.

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JammyDoidger
27-10-2020, 11:54 AM
FWIW I've a lifetime of dodgy yam results behind me as well as the ones we've thrown away but am with you this time around.

GGTTH.

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Genuienly think This is going to be one we will be talking about for years to come, in a positive way!

The 90+2
27-10-2020, 12:00 PM
In conclusion, Hearts aren't favourites with All the bookies. Fake news.

Calm your spam hen. They are where I looked and that wasn’t the overall message of my post regardless.

scoopyboy
27-10-2020, 12:00 PM
Genuienly think This is going to be one we will be talking about for years to come, in a positive way!

If Hibs win I will be voting for you as Poster of the Year.

The 90+2
27-10-2020, 12:02 PM
If Hibs win I will be voting for you as Poster of the Year.

Charmin’ 😂

Keith_M
27-10-2020, 12:05 PM
If Hibs win I will be voting for you as Poster of the Year.


And if they lose?

JOD
27-10-2020, 12:11 PM
I do laugh when Hearts fans say they always beat us at Hampden. There has only ever been 2 games played at Hampden between the 2 clubs, it's not as if we play them there every year.

We could equally say we always beat Real Madrid at Easter Road. :greengrin
😁🤗

JOD
27-10-2020, 12:16 PM
They are 90 minute prices. If they were to win tsshe tie you could back both teams and be guaranteed to win.
That's why bookies love draws.
That's where they make their money.
I should know I used to be 1.🤑😁

scoopyboy
27-10-2020, 12:22 PM
And if they lose?

Slaver of the year. :greengrin

HUTCHYHIBBY
27-10-2020, 12:22 PM
I have in the past backed hearts at ridiculous odds against us, I'm sure I got 7/2 once when they beat us. I backed them because no way were they a 7/2 chance and the bookies had just got it wrong. I think they have the odds wrong here too, and will back us to win on Saturday.

If that was the same day Stevie G fell on his arse I backed them at a similar price (got double odds as it was my first bet with Skybet which was handy).

Nakedmanoncrack
27-10-2020, 12:24 PM
Remember the apparently more generous prices may well only be for win in 90 minutes?

Seem generous if they're either team to win outright.

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Is anyone offering odds to win the tie?
Cant find any at all.

Killiehibbie
27-10-2020, 12:29 PM
Is anyone offering odds to win the tie?
Cant find any at all.

1.9 either team with Bet 365

JammyDoidger
27-10-2020, 12:29 PM
Is anyone offering odds to win the tie?
Cant find any at all.

Both are 5/6 to qualify with skybet.

Killiehibbie
27-10-2020, 12:31 PM
Is anyone offering odds to win the tie?
Cant find any at all.

1.94 best price them and 1.9 us.
Go to Betbrain and to qualify page.

SHODAN
27-10-2020, 12:36 PM
Ah, one day the avalanche of pre-derby "we're gonna pump them 3 or 4 nil" predictions is going to come true. Only been twenty years. :brickwall

Pagan Hibernia
27-10-2020, 12:41 PM
Ah, one day the avalanche of pre-derby "we're gonna pump them 3 or 4 nil" predictions is going to come true. Only been twenty years. :brickwall

I often wonder whether Hibs fans were so confident before the one time it actually happened (the 6-2).

I can’t remember.

Lago
27-10-2020, 12:41 PM
:greengrin
Would this be the same lot of bookies that thought the Killie v Hibs game was off on Saturday?

:wink:



https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?348836-Game-on-tomorrow

Lago
27-10-2020, 12:42 PM
I often wonder whether Hibs fans were so confident before the one time it actually happened (the 6-2).

I can’t remember.
I wasn't, was in shock at full time 😲

hibeerealist
27-10-2020, 12:56 PM
I think a name change is in order. How about hibeefantasist? :wink:

Well lets wait and see shall we, ye of little faith.

cabbageandribs1875
27-10-2020, 01:13 PM
Bet365
FT

17/10. Heartz
8/5. Hibs


to qualify both are 10/11

£30 on the cabbage @8/5 i'm looking for the early 2-0 payout :)

i would normally put the cash on heartz whatever the odds

EI255
27-10-2020, 01:21 PM
I wouldn’t touch this game with a barge pole.Nor me.

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EI255
27-10-2020, 01:21 PM
Come on lads..... Positivity check required!

Hibs to do this!

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hibbyfraelibby
27-10-2020, 01:22 PM
To be hobest gambling and bookues are of little interest to me but my understanding is tght bookies odds are set based on the amount of money being wagered on a particular outcome by people using subjective reasoning as opposed to pure statistical modelling based on quaranteed outcones.

If there is a bias toward a particular base placing bets on an outcome predicated on their emotional attachment then it skews the favouritism in that particular direction whilst not necessarily reflecting the anticipated outcome.

To cut a long story short the puddle drinking window lickers have being sinking vast sums of their valueless maroon pounds in pursuit of a wished for outcome but in reality means Hibs are the true reasoned favourites.

Gordy M
27-10-2020, 01:24 PM
The neutrals will be all over Hibs at those prices. Great price for the team 3rd in the premier taking on 3rd in the Championship.

Since90+2
27-10-2020, 01:24 PM
To be hobest gambling and bookues are of little interest to me but my understanding is tght bookies odds are set based on the amount of money being wagered on a particular outcome by people using subjective reasoning as opposed to pure statistical modelling based on quaranteed outcones.

If there is a bias toward a particular base placing bets on an outcome predicated on their emotional attachment then it skews the favouritism in that particular direction whilst not necessarily reflecting the anticipated outcome.

To cut a long story short the puddle drinking window lickers have being sinking vast sums of their valueless maroon pounds in pursuit of a wished for outcome but in reality means Hibs are the true reasoned favourites.

The odds have only just been released today so they won't have been impacted by the amount of money Hearts (or Hibs) fans have placed.

Col2
27-10-2020, 01:55 PM
We will be clearer favourites by kick off I imagine.

I think we have more players that can cause them problems than the other way round however for me the key difference is....

.....match fitness. We labored through games in the early matches like many teams did. It is only now that we are seeing faster, higher quality football score the top league and that is 12 games in. For Hearts they have had two league games and a few cup/practice type games. Halliday and the likes look miles off the pace.

Sammy7nil
27-10-2020, 07:17 PM
I often wonder whether Hibs fans were so confident before the one time it actually happened (the 6-2).

I can’t remember.

The Hearts fans were confident we would stuff them the stayed away in their droves they missed a right good party 😊🥳😁

Glory Lurker
27-10-2020, 08:49 PM
If we do stuff them on Saturday then it will prove it’s been the fans’ fault all along :greengrin

lucky
27-10-2020, 08:57 PM
I can’t see how a championship team can be favourites against a premiership team especially one sitting third in the table and playing good football. Personally I think Hibs will win by 2 or 3 goals.

Since452
27-10-2020, 09:14 PM
Schoolboy error but the closer the game gets the more I think we'll win by a couple

Magpie
27-10-2020, 09:26 PM
I’m on Hibs HT/FT at 7/2. Nice early goal followed by a pumping please.

Sammy7nil
27-10-2020, 09:37 PM
I can’t see how a championship team can be favourites against a premiership team especially one sitting third in the table and playing good football. Personally I think Hibs will win by 2 or 3 goals.

Would you fancy St Mirren, Hamilton or Ross County against this Hearts team?

NC1875
27-10-2020, 09:44 PM
Reading -1 on Friday night
Hibs -1 on Saturday night

32/1 the double.

Magpie
27-10-2020, 09:44 PM
Would you fancy St Mirren, Hamilton or Ross County against this Hearts team?

Probably would tbh

Sammy7nil
27-10-2020, 09:45 PM
Probably would tbh

Wish you were a bookie 😁😊

Nakedmanoncrack
27-10-2020, 10:27 PM
6/1 Aberdeen in the other Semi looks a decent bet.

G B Young
28-10-2020, 06:22 AM
I can’t see how a championship team can be favourites against a premiership team especially one sitting third in the table and playing good football. Personally I think Hibs will win by 2 or 3 goals.

Indeed. Hearts aren't favourites. Hibs could and probably should win this one with a degree of comfort.

CyberSauzee
28-10-2020, 06:27 AM
We're slight favourites at nearly all firms now. Surprised it was the other way round.

vuefrom1875
28-10-2020, 08:30 AM
We're slight favourites at nearly all firms now. Surprised it was the other way round.

Jumped in @ 17/10 Willy hills👌😎☘

HFC93
28-10-2020, 09:24 AM
Peak Hearts pre Derby news story:

Hearts' Josh Ginnelly, who was on crutches after picking up an injury against Arbroath on Friday, and fellow wingers Jordan Roberts and Elliot Frear could shake off injuries to be available for Saturday's Scottish Cup semi-final against Hibernian. (Edinburgh Evening News) (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/robbie-neilson-provides-josh-ginnelly-and-jordan-roberts-update-hibs-clash-hearts-get-huge-john-souttar-boost-3017013)

JeMeSouviens
28-10-2020, 09:39 AM
Indeed. Hearts aren't favourites. Hibs could and probably should win this one with a degree of comfort.

In our last 2 games we've managed 1 goal from a penalty against Killie and Ross County. We're pretty solid and I guess should be slight favourites but expecting comfort in this game is hopeful to say the least.

JeMeSouviens
28-10-2020, 09:41 AM
Peak Hearts pre Derby news story:

Hearts' Josh Ginnelly, who was on crutches after picking up an injury against Arbroath on Friday, and fellow wingers Jordan Roberts and Elliot Frear could shake off injuries to be available for Saturday's Scottish Cup semi-final against Hibernian. (Edinburgh Evening News) (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/robbie-neilson-provides-josh-ginnelly-and-jordan-roberts-update-hibs-clash-hearts-get-huge-john-souttar-boost-3017013)

I must admit I don't track their transfer movements very closely, but every time we play Hearts these days it feels like they've made up a bunch of names. Who, who and who? :confused:

JohnMcM
28-10-2020, 09:43 AM
Peak Hearts pre Derby news story:

Hearts' Josh Ginnelly, who was on crutches after picking up an injury against Arbroath on Friday, and fellow wingers Jordan Roberts and Elliot Frear could shake off injuries to be available for Saturday's Scottish Cup semi-final against Hibernian. (Edinburgh Evening News) (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/robbie-neilson-provides-josh-ginnelly-and-jordan-roberts-update-hibs-clash-hearts-get-huge-john-souttar-boost-3017013)

Every time without fail :lolyam:

Since452
28-10-2020, 09:46 AM
I don't know the vast majority of their players or whether they're good or not. Seem to sign a new squad every window.

Eyrie
28-10-2020, 09:57 AM
I don't know the vast majority of their players or whether they're good or not. Seem to sign a new squad every window.

Same here.

I attempted the BBC's "combined eleven" earlier and hadn't even heard of half the Hearts players which meant that an honest attempt at a fair selection produced a result that looks one sided.

Andy74
28-10-2020, 09:58 AM
Would you fancy St Mirren, Hamilton or Ross County against this Hearts team?

I would yes. They haven’t suddenly become a quality team or one that has any habit of winning games as yet.

SHODAN
28-10-2020, 10:18 AM
I must admit I don't track their transfer movements very closely, but every time we play Hearts these days it feels like they've made up a bunch of names. Who, who and who? :confused:

Neilson's going with the "play wide" strategy that worked for him in 14-15. He signed three wingers to accommodate this over the summer.

Gloucester Hibs
28-10-2020, 10:19 AM
Peak Hearts pre Derby news story:

Hearts' Josh Ginnelly, who was on crutches after picking up an injury against Arbroath on Friday, and fellow wingers Jordan Roberts and Elliot Frear could shake off injuries to be available for Saturday's Scottish Cup semi-final against Hibernian. (Edinburgh Evening News) (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/robbie-neilson-provides-josh-ginnelly-and-jordan-roberts-update-hibs-clash-hearts-get-huge-john-souttar-boost-3017013)

John Robertson seemingly also “a doubt”

Sammy7nil
28-10-2020, 10:25 AM
I would yes. They haven’t suddenly become a quality team or one that has any habit of winning games as yet.

I hope the Manager and team are not thinking the same we have to be very motivated for this game. Hearts are going to be decent this year and we will need to play at a good level to beat them.

Anyone who thinks we are better and therefore should win has not been watching derbies for fifty years.

blackpoolhibs
28-10-2020, 10:46 AM
I hope the Manager and team are not thinking the same we have to be very motivated for this game. Hearts are going to be decent this year and we will need to play at a good level to beat them.

Anyone who thinks we are better and therefore should win has not been watching derbies for fifty years.

I think we are better, but being better does not automatically mean you will win, but I think we can and hopefully will.

Carheenlea
28-10-2020, 11:39 AM
Peak Hearts pre Derby news story:

Hearts' Josh Ginnelly, who was on crutches after picking up an injury against Arbroath on Friday, and fellow wingers Jordan Roberts and Elliot Frear could shake off injuries to be available for Saturday's Scottish Cup semi-final against Hibernian. (Edinburgh Evening News) (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/robbie-neilson-provides-josh-ginnelly-and-jordan-roberts-update-hibs-clash-hearts-get-huge-john-souttar-boost-3017013)

https://i.postimg.cc/zXqD4Z5v/A4691535-B172-4-AAC-B814-0-C7-C884-FEB77.gif (https://postimages.org/)

The 90+2
28-10-2020, 11:45 AM
Ginnelly looks a good player, I hope he’s out.

hibsbollah
28-10-2020, 12:06 PM
Ginnelly looks a good player, I hope he’s out.

Elliott ‘in doubt’ Frear, their winger on the other side used to play with Doidge at Forest Green, I notice. He’s just a hearts **** at the end of the day really.

Andy74
28-10-2020, 12:06 PM
I hope the Manager and team are not thinking the same we have to be very motivated for this game. Hearts are going to be decent this year and we will need to play at a good level to beat them.

Anyone who thinks we are better and therefore should win has not been watching derbies for fifty years.

The fans’ opinion of Hearts quality has nothing to do with our approach or motivation.

I don’t think Hamilton are a great team for example but they, like any team are capable of winning on the day and should be given all respect.

On the other hand hyping Hearts into something they are not and being frightened of them isn’t the way to go.

Bostonhibby
28-10-2020, 12:14 PM
Every time without fail [emoji38]yam:They've all had a leg sawn off with a Rusty blade but the EEN is delighted to report the Hearts stars should all pass a last minute fitness test before the semi final.



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Sammy7nil
28-10-2020, 12:16 PM
The fans’ opinion of Hearts quality has nothing to do with our approach or motivation.

I don’t think Hamilton are a great team for example but they, like any team are capable of winning on the day and should be given all respect.

On the other hand hyping Hearts into something they are not and being frightened of them isn’t the way to go.

Nobody at Hibs should fear Hearts by the same token no one should doubt this will be anything other than a very very tough game to win.

The 90+2
28-10-2020, 12:17 PM
Elliott ‘in doubt’ Frear, their winger on the other side used to play with Doidge at Forest Green, I notice. He’s just a hearts **** at the end of the day really.

:greengrin amen. :aok:

calumhibee1
28-10-2020, 12:31 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zXqD4Z5v/A4691535-B172-4-AAC-B814-0-C7-C884-FEB77.gif (https://postimages.org/)

😂

G B Young
28-10-2020, 01:32 PM
In our last 2 games we've managed 1 goal from a penalty against Killie and Ross County. We're pretty solid and I guess should be slight favourites but expecting comfort in this game is hopeful to say the least.

We should have been a few goals to the good by half time against County and we've proved we can score a few goals when we hit our stride. I don't EXPECT it to be comfortable but we should definitely be clear favourites.

Since452
28-10-2020, 01:42 PM
In our last 2 games we've managed 1 goal from a penalty against Killie and Ross County. We're pretty solid and I guess should be slight favourites but expecting comfort in this game is hopeful to say the least.

With 27 attempts we should have absolutely destroyed Ross County. Hopefully we take our chances against Hearts as we will make plenty of them

Sammy7nil
28-10-2020, 01:55 PM
The fans’ opinion of Hearts quality has nothing to do with our approach or motivation.

I don’t think Hamilton are a great team for example but they, like any team are capable of winning on the day and should be given all respect.

On the other hand hyping Hearts into something they are not and being frightened of them isn’t the way to go.

Nobody at Hibs should fear Hearts by the same token no one should doubt this will be anything other than a very very tough game to win.

Magpie
28-10-2020, 02:22 PM
Ginnelly looks a good player, I hope he’s out.

Many **** players could look a good player in the Scottish Championship to be fair.

The 90+2
28-10-2020, 02:26 PM
Many **** players could look a good player in the Scottish Championship to be fair.

True. Look at Halliday.

JimBHibees
28-10-2020, 03:04 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zXqD4Z5v/A4691535-B172-4-AAC-B814-0-C7-C884-FEB77.gif (https://postimages.org/)

:faf::faf:

Hibiza
28-10-2020, 04:55 PM
All the bookies.

Reality check for anyone thinking this will be easy.

Jack Ross read this too please and get every single player up for this and not a stroll in the park ****.

Good post , sur.

HUTCHYHIBBY
28-10-2020, 05:28 PM
John Robertson seemingly also “a doubt”

I chuckled at that, amazing how may Derbys he played in with all those injuries. 😱

Since452
28-10-2020, 05:28 PM
That's three Hearts players been speaking in the press this week about the semi. Only Wednesday. They're certainly well up for it. Bookies seem to think the same.

JammyDoidger
28-10-2020, 05:31 PM
That's three Hearts players been speaking in the press this week about the semi. Only Wednesday. They're certainly well up for it. Bookies seem to think the same.

Id rather we never said anything. Just swagger onto the hampden pitch like bosses, putting gogic at the front. And watch them quiver.

Since90+2
28-10-2020, 05:32 PM
That's three Hearts players been speaking in the press this week about the semi. Only Wednesday. They're certainly well up for it. Bookies seem to think the same.

Of course they'll be up for it. So will we.

If both teams apply themselves and the referee doesn't make any gaffs then we will win. We have better players and are the better team.

HUTCHYHIBBY
28-10-2020, 05:33 PM
That's three Hearts players been speaking in the press this week about the semi. Only Wednesday. They're certainly well up for it. Bookies seem to think the same.

I've had enough of Hibs players talking a good game in the papers, get the job done on the pitch, then let's talk about it.

Since452
28-10-2020, 05:34 PM
They like to talk anyway

weecounty hibby
28-10-2020, 06:02 PM
Those ****ers are crawling out from under their rocks. Rambo at my work sent me a link to the 4-0 semi. Tells me expects the same result as we struggled against cove and forfar. When I pointed out that was out reserves and they struggled to beat Arbroath with their first XI he mumbled something about Rudi and we'll see in Saturday. Fuds, all of them

zitelli62
28-10-2020, 06:26 PM
Watched derbys for over 50 years and I hate it when everyone says we fear them cause they are always up for it, we are a better team better players and I always think we will beat them doesn't always happen but when it does it's great, let's be positive and say we will hammer them cause that's what there fans think stuff them we will easily we are a far better team there a championship team let's be positive and forget this negative crap I've seen good and bad and we're good let's get into them.

Magpie
28-10-2020, 06:29 PM
Watched derbys for over 50 years and I hate it when everyone says we fear them cause they are always up for it, we are a better team better players and I always think we will beat them doesn't always happen but when it does it's great, let's be positive and say we will hammer them cause that's what there fans think stuff them we will easily we are a far better team there a championship team let's be positive and forget this negative crap I've seen good and bad and we're good let's get into them.

I agree. Let’s get at them from the off on Saturday. Attack them and be positive. It’s when we hide and play into their hands that we usually fail to win.

Dashing Bob S
29-10-2020, 05:42 AM
Be interesting to see how the teams play a derby without supporters present. My view is that too many of us have exhibited a fatalism in these fixtures and this has benefited Hearts.

It’ll be a battle but class will prevail and I think we’ll win 3-1.

Hibs07p
29-10-2020, 01:08 PM
Bet 365 got them at 19/10 (76/40) and us at 11/8 (55/40). Probably a truer reflection on the likely outcome.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

JOD
30-10-2020, 09:43 AM
Hibs now solid fav across the board in bookies. Wish I had my bet earlier in week. I am betting Hibs to qualify. I'll be lucky to get evenmoney now but my £100 will still get me £200.

erin go bragh
30-10-2020, 12:11 PM
I can’t see how a championship team can be favourites against a premiership team especially one sitting third in the table and playing good football. Personally I think Hibs will win by 2 or 3 goals.

Hibs are slight favourites. £10 on Hibs with bet 365 pays £25.50
Same bet on them pays £28

Chuck D
30-10-2020, 06:25 PM
I'm hoping for a wonder result but Hearts will always be favourites in the Derby until we can put together a consistent run against them. Being in a higher division didn't exactly help in 2016.

chrisski33
30-10-2020, 06:28 PM
Let the yams be favourites may work in our favour.

HibbyAndy
30-10-2020, 06:32 PM
Let the yams be favourites may work in our favour.

They aren't though , Hibs are


I fancy us tomorrow if we continue current form

whiskyhibby
30-10-2020, 07:03 PM
They aren't though , Hibs are


I fancy us tomorrow if we continue current form

Absolutely !

JammyDoidger
30-10-2020, 07:27 PM
Watched derbys for over 50 years and I hate it when everyone says we fear them cause they are always up for it, we are a better team better players and I always think we will beat them doesn't always happen but when it does it's great, let's be positive and say we will hammer them cause that's what there fans think stuff them we will easily we are a far better team there a championship team let's be positive and forget this negative crap I've seen good and bad and we're good let's get into them.

Hear hear!! Get into them. Hibs are a bloody good side! Get out and get infront early and don't look back. Time to give these middens a doing!

Pedantic_Hibee
30-10-2020, 07:32 PM
Get them pumped.

EI255
30-10-2020, 07:35 PM
Rather enjoying this thread.

A team that's rolled over the mighty Dundee FC and then edged past the Euro colossus that is Arbroath FC.

Tomorrow you'll meet your match you soor faced gits.



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Del Boy
30-10-2020, 07:37 PM
I never bet on Hibs but we will win tomorrow and quite comfortably.

I think 3-1 or 3-0 Hibs

Hibeewilly
30-10-2020, 08:41 PM
On Betfair it 6/4 Hibs 2/1 Hearts and 9/4 the draw

Magpie
31-10-2020, 08:13 AM
Hibs into 6/5 now

Itsnoteasy
31-10-2020, 09:22 AM
Still 29/20 on 365. Looks like betfair 6/4 is still the best out there

Since452
31-10-2020, 09:44 AM
Wee bet on Hearts to soften the blow if they win

tamig
31-10-2020, 09:53 AM
Wee bet on Hearts to soften the blow if they win

Heresy. I could never do that. Almost treasonous.

green day
31-10-2020, 09:55 AM
Heresy. I could never do that. Almost treasonous. Agreed, I have never bet against us.

FilipinoHibs
31-10-2020, 10:04 AM
Agreed, I have never bet against us.

Never😳

Lendo
31-10-2020, 10:22 AM
Gone with Hibs to win 3-1, Nisbet and Doidge to score any time at 40/1

Onion
31-10-2020, 10:39 AM
Wee bet on Hearts to soften the blow if they win

Take the pain like a man. There are times to hedge your bets but is not one if them.

Speedy
31-10-2020, 11:13 AM
Wee bet on Hearts to soften the blow if they win

Not sure it softens the blow but the way I look at it, it pays for the day.

I've split my bets between Hearts +1 (8/13) & Hearts - Draw no bet (5/4).

Ideal scenario we win in extra time :greengrin

theonlywayisup
31-10-2020, 06:53 PM
The bookies are rarely wrong!!

vahibbie
31-10-2020, 07:48 PM
The bookies are rarely wrong!!

How true.
Rarely bet on Hibs but after much consideration thought this was the time. Missed the good initial odds but stuck on a fair wedge. **** mug. Like a horse that never challenge:grr:

Speedy
31-10-2020, 08:04 PM
The bookies are rarely wrong!!

Hibs started favourites

theonlywayisup
31-10-2020, 08:23 PM
Hibs started favourites

Yes, the bookies played a blinder!

Make the Hertz favourites with longer odds than the Hibees. Then we come along with bets for a Hibs win, which results in the odds shifting from a Hertz win to a Hibs win.

Not sure what happens when it goes to extra-time, but the bookies would have done well tonight.