Cove's plastic pitch

[SHODAN]

Noticed this black stuff came up any time anything happened on it. What was that?

[Sir David Gray]

Noticed this black stuff came up any time anything happened on it. What was that?

Pellets, the same thing happens on Livingston's pitch.

[Since452]

Kilmarnock's pitch is the best of the artificial ones I've seen. Still pish though. The rest are utter pish.

[Brightside]

Noticed this black stuff came up any time anything happened on it. What was that?

It’s on all 3G pitches.

[H18 SFR]

The clubs deliberately overload the pitch with the pellets to gain an advantage by altering the natural flow and bounce etc of the ball on that surface. It naturally results in a considerably different game compared to grass. Ex QotS manager Jim Thomson told me that.

Simply put, it alters the natural resistance of the ball vs the surface.

Artificial pitches need regulated in Scotland.

[18Craig75]

I must say watching the game I thought that’s the worst plastic pitch I’ve seen. The ball wasn’t rolling over it, more skimming over it.

After watching Doidge’s miss a couple times I actually have a lot of sympathy for him. The trajectory of the downward header would’ve meant the ball ended up in the back of the net on 99% of pitches. The way it bounced up wasn’t natural.

It also looked very dry, maybe Cove intentionally didn’t add any water so it was ‘sticky’ preventing any decent passing.

EDIT: the post above explains what I was thinking! There definitely needs to be som regulation

[hibbysam]

I must say watching the game I thought that’s the worst plastic pitch I’ve seen. The ball wasn’t rolling over it, more skimming over it.

After watching Doidge’s miss a couple times I actually have a lot of sympathy for him. The trajectory of the downward header would’ve meant the ball ended up in the back of the net on 99% of pitches. The way it bounced up wasn’t natural.

It also looked very dry, maybe Cove intentionally didn’t add any water so it was ‘sticky’ preventing any decent passing.

EDIT: the post above explains what I was thinking! There definitely needs to be som regulation

The pitches are tested regularly. Problem being is they dry very quickly, so putting water on for testing will mean they are bone dry by kick off unless there is a persistent heavy downpour.

[Peevemor]

I must say watching the game I thought that’s the worst plastic pitch I’ve seen. The ball wasn’t rolling over it, more skimming over it.

After watching Doidge’s miss a couple times I actually have a lot of sympathy for him. The trajectory of the downward header would’ve meant the ball ended up in the back of the net on 99% of pitches. The way it bounced up wasn’t natural.

It also looked very dry, maybe Cove intentionally didn’t add any water so it was ‘sticky’ preventing any decent passing.

EDIT: the post above explains what I was thinking! There definitely needs to be som regulationDoidge did everything right with his header. Some have been criticising him for missing, but on a grass pitch that was a goal every time.

[FilipinoHibs]

The clubs deliberately overload the pitch with the pellets to gain an advantage by altering the natural flow and bounce etc of the ball on that surface. It naturally results in a considerably different game compared to grass. Ex QotS manager Jim Thomson told me that.

Simply put, it alters the natural resistance of the ball vs the surface.

Artificial pitches need regulated in Scotland.

Agree. I hate them. That and the wind contributed to our woeful first half display.

[JimBHibees]

Huge advantage imo if training and playing on it regularly. Actually thought Cove were good and in the end a win there is very good especially considering the players not there.

[Hiber-nation]

Looked as bad as Alloa's old pitch which was even worse than Livi's.

[HH81]

Not watered pre match to change the roll of the ball most likely.

Bet they have been training on a bone dry pitch for ages to gain an advantage.

You could bet for a league game it would be watered to help with their passing game. They were actually quite a good team on the ball.

[EI255]

Pellets, the same thing happens on Livingston's pitch.I've said it before but it's only amateurs and Sunday Leagues who should be playing on these awful surfaces. Clubs like Livingston and Cove shouldn't be allowed to play top teir football on those surfaces.

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[The 90+2]

The only thing that has ever came close to being as **** as the old Dunfermline one about 2001.

[h1bs4life]

Also think Doidge's header would have been a goal on a grass pitch.
Plastic pitches have no place in top flight football unfortunately with the 11-1 voting it would need 2 of Livingston , Hamilton and Kilmarnock to be relegated for change.
If they do manage to get it changed then no promotion if you don't have a grass pitch.
For cup competitions I would go for clubs with plastic pitches drawn at home have to get agreement from away team to play on it or it goes to a venue near by with grass pitch. That includes any premier League teams with plastic pitches

[green day]

Doidge did everything right with his header. Some have been criticising him for missing, but on a grass pitch that was a goal every time.


Also think Doidge's header would have been a goal on a grass pitch.
Plastic pitches have no place in top flight football unfortunately with the 11-1 voting it would need 2 of

There were people slaughtering him yesterday, when it was obvious (from the replay) that he did exactly what all strikers are told - head into the ground ahead of the line. The bounce it took would never have happened on grass.

The ball ran at a different pace (not enough to excuse Wright passing to Cover every time) and the bounce was higher even than Livingston.

An example of the bounce lottery - there was one ball that bounced in front of Gray that (ordinarily) would have emerged around waist height, but ended up above his head, he almost got injured trying to control it.

While Cove are definitely a good team, their fantastic home record (up til yesterday) is undoubtedly in part due to their knowledge of and having every training session on that awful pitch.

[LongJohnBanger]

Thought it looked like a hockey pitch.

[Eyrie]

Not just Doidge or Gray - think McGregor got wrong footed in the first half when a long ball by Cove bounced straight up when he was expecting it to come to him.

[blackpoolhibs]

Doidge did everything right with his header. Some have been criticising him for missing, but on a grass pitch that was a goal every time.

Can't agree with he did everything right with the header, the ball never went in the net? While I agree players are taught to head the ball downwards, when the goal is empty you just head it into the net. Also he was not playing on grass yesterday, even the daftest of players would have known that. 😁

[scoopyboy]

Also think Doidge's header would have been a goal on a grass pitch.
Plastic pitches have no place in top flight football unfortunately with the 11-1 voting it would need 2 of Livingston , Hamilton and Kilmarnock to be relegated for change.
If they do manage to get it changed then no promotion if you don't have a grass pitch.
For cup competitions I would go for clubs with plastic pitches drawn at home have to get agreement from away team to play on it or it goes to a venue near by with grass pitch. That includes any premier League teams with plastic pitches

That was a rule years ago, in 1991 in the first game of our League Cup winning run against Stirling Albion was played at Perth.

[B.H.F.C]

Doidge did everything right with his header. Some have been criticising him for missing, but on a grass pitch that was a goal every time.

Na definitely no. It was an open goal and he failed to score.

He wasn’t playing on grass so he should have done what was appropriate on the surface he was playing on and just head it in to the empty net.

Not that the pitch didn’t look crap, of course.

[B.H.F.C]

The only thing that has ever came close to being as **** as the old Dunfermline one about 2001.

We were the first team to play on that. Some idiot decided to streak, did a Klinsman and it’s fair to say he came off worse than the pitch.

[Sir David Gray]

We were the first team to play on that. Some idiot decided to streak, did a Klinsman and it’s fair to say he came off worse than the pitch.

I can still remember that. :faf:

[The 90+2]

We were the first team to play on that. Some idiot decided to streak, did a Klinsman and it’s fair to say he came off worse than the pitch.

🤣 aye was there mate. Sure Jean Pierre Papin was there that day as it was his company.

We lost too I think.

[Sir David Gray]

🤣 aye was there mate. Sure Jean Pierre Papin was there that day as it was his company.

We lost too I think.

0-0.

[The 90+2]

0-0.

JPP and the dive was the highlights then 😃 decent memory. Impressed 👍

[Seveno]

The ball seemed to stick to the surface at times.

[lord bunberry]

Thought it looked like a hockey pitch.
That’s what I thought, it looked like the old style Astro with no depth to it.

[Glory Lurker]

🤣 aye was there mate. Sure Jean Pierre Papin was there that day as it was his company.

We lost too I think.

Ian Rush too, I think?

[Andy74]

Na definitely no. It was an open goal and he failed to score.

He wasn’t playing on grass so he should have done what was appropriate on the surface he was playing on and just head it in to the empty net.

Not that the pitch didn’t look crap, of course.

A bit of a daft comment that though isn't it? Do you think he wasn't trying to just head into an empty net?

He was doing what strikers everywhere are taught and that will be totally natural to him in the split second he has in real time.

Not very realistic to suggest he could have done a bit of calculating about the surface with the hindsight of the bounce it took - even if he knew it would be a bit lively.

If he had got there and tried to nod it direct in the net and got it fractionally wrong it would have been over the bar too - then everyone would have been saying why didn't he just header it down.

[B.H.F.C]

A bit of a daft comment that though isn't it? Do you think he wasn't trying to just head into an empty net?

He was doing what strikers everywhere are taught and that will be totally natural to him in the split second he has in real time.

Not very realistic to suggest he could have done a bit of calculating about the surface with the hindsight of the bounce it took - even if he knew it would be a bit lively.

If he had got there and tried to nod it direct in the net and got it fractionally wrong it would have been over the bar too - then everyone would have been saying why didn't he just header it down.

He missed an open goal. Very simply, a bad miss.

I think your post is far dafter than my one to be honest. Did what he was taught to do? What’s that? Head the ball off the ground on to the bar? Don’t think so.

[Hiber-nation]

He missed an open goal. Very simply, a bad miss.

I think your post is far dafter than my one to be honest. Did what he was taught to do? What’s that? Head the ball off the ground on to the bar? Don’t think so.

Exactly. Some right daft stuff on here. The big man knew right away it was a terrible miss.

[Brightside]

The clubs deliberately overload the pitch with the pellets to gain an advantage by altering the natural flow and bounce etc of the ball on that surface. It naturally results in a considerably different game compared to grass. Ex QotS manager Jim Thomson told me that.

Simply put, it alters the natural resistance of the ball vs the surface.

Artificial pitches need regulated in Scotland.

Livi have done that since it opened.