Forfar game

[SHODAN]

Is this going to be a forfeit as they're still self isolating?

EDIT: Just seen it's going ahead as the rest their squad managed to get tested.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I may have misunderstood but from what I've read, lower league clubs are only required to test full squad in the days prior to games against Premiership teams. So Forfar couldn't give guarantees that team would be Covid-free to play Dundee last week, so forfeited the tie after a player was seperately diagnosed. On the other hand, because they are required to test before our game- they can give this assurance. With Hibs & Dundee both having full points from 1st 2 games, good chance group could be decided on goal difference - the key difference being the 3 goals which Dundee were awarded against Forfar, a game that would have went ahead if there had been a testing requirement.

[hibee1875]

If we beat Dundee as we should there will be no need for it to be decided on goal difference

[duffers]

There would also be penalties if it ended in a draw so pretty unlikely it will come down to goal difference

[Nakedmanoncrack]

There would also be penalties if it ended in a draw so pretty unlikely it will come down to goal difference

True, hadn't thought of that.
Could still happen though, and if any team was to advance in any group in such circumstances it could hardly be considered fair.

[Northernhibee]

True, hadn't thought of that.
Could still happen though, and if any team was to advance in any group in such circumstances it could hardly be considered fair.

It’s already wildly unfair that Aberdeen are allowed to reschedule games they missed as their players wilfully ignored the rules yet other teams forfeit.

[mal]

True, hadn't thought of that.
Could still happen though, and if any team was to advance in any group in such circumstances it could hardly be considered fair.

There's insufficient match day slots available to be able to rearrange fixtures so 0-3 forfeits is the only practical solution. Every club that is unable to fulfill a League Cup fixture in these circumstances is being treated exactly the same, which I'd have thought was the very definition of fairness. I think we should leave the complaints about things being "unfair" to our city neighbours (who, in any case, were looking to be treated exceptionally, not fairly). We'll have had four games to overturn any perceived advantage that Dundee might have gained from the forfeited game, including a head-to-head with them so if we don't finish above them we won't have deserved to.

The only combination of results from the remaining games in which goal difference becomes a factor is if we draw with Dundee, both of us draw our remaining game against League One opponents, and both of us win one and lose one of the resultant penalty shoot outs.

[hibbysam]

There's insufficient match day slots available to be able to rearrange fixtures so 0-3 forfeits is the only practical solution. Every club that is unable to fulfill a League Cup fixture in these circumstances is being treated exactly the same, which I'd have thought was the very definition of fairness. I think we should leave the complaints about things being "unfair" to our city neighbours (who, in any case, were looking to be treated exceptionally, not fairly). We'll have had four games to overturn any perceived advantage that Dundee might have gained from the forfeited game, including a head-to-head with them so if we don't finish above them we won't have deserved to.

The only combination of results from the remaining games in which goal difference becomes a factor is if we draw with Dundee, both of us draw our remaining game against League One opponents, and both of us win one and lose one of the resultant penalty shoot outs.

Or one of us lose our third games and the team that loses wins the head to head. It’s very unlikely though, who’s to say they wouldn’t have put 4/5 past Forfar.

[Sir David Gray]

It’s already wildly unfair that Aberdeen are allowed to reschedule games they missed as their players wilfully ignored the rules yet other teams forfeit.

There's different rules between league and cup.

No team has so far forfeited a league match.

[007 Mickey Weir]

We can’t really afford to risk injuries for Ross County game. Maybe see Mackie come in at left wing back. Gullan and Shanley up top?

Or play Nisbet and Shanley up top and Gullan on left?

[CMurdoch]

Ryan Shanley was on loan at Forfar last season so knows the ground well and may get a run out.


..........from Wiki, he is only showing to have played 1 game for Forfar :rolleyes:

[Souter96Mac]

Barnes
Gray McGregor Stevenson
Boyle Magennis Mallan Hallberg Gullan
Doidge Shanley

We're pretty limited in defence so I suspect it'll be the same as Cove. I'd give Magennis a start, give him an hour or so. I'd rest Nisbet for the weekend, and play Shanley up front with Doidge. Gullan has looked effective on the left so I'd start him there. Hopefully Doidge can get a goal, we can't have him go on another goal-less run last last year, especially with big games coming up.

[Brightside]

I can imagine that Hallberg is busy learning how to be a CH right now. We cannot start with the back 3 we had last time out.

[JimBHibees]

I can imagine that Hallberg is busy learning how to be a CH right now. We cannot start with the back 3 we had last time out.

Probably play at right back again

[bod]

It’s already wildly unfair that Aberdeen are allowed to reschedule games they missed as their players wilfully ignored the rules yet other teams forfeit.

Aberdeen we’re willing to play with the remaking players,think it was the SPFL that cancelled the game

[Nakedmanoncrack]

There's insufficient match day slots available to be able to rearrange fixtures so 0-3 forfeits is the only practical solution. Every club that is unable to fulfill a League Cup fixture in these circumstances is being treated exactly the same, which I'd have thought was the very definition of fairness. I think we should leave the complaints about things being "unfair" to our city neighbours (who, in any case, were looking to be treated exceptionally, not fairly). We'll have had four games to overturn any perceived advantage that Dundee might have gained from the forfeited game, including a head-to-head with them so if we don't finish above them we won't have deserved to.

The only combination of results from the remaining games in which goal difference becomes a factor is if we draw with Dundee, both of us draw our remaining game against League One opponents, and both of us win one and lose one of the resultant penalty shoot outs.

Wrong, every club is not being treated the same. Otherwise there would be the same testing procedure in place regardless of what league the opposition play in. Its this difference which led to Dundee being awarded a 3-0 win.

[hibbysam]

Aberdeen we’re willing to play with the remaking players,think it was the SPFL that cancelled the game

Whether they were willing to or not, they weren’t able to due to the Government stopping them as a precaution. I’m sure Forfar wanted to play Dundee but simply wouldn’t be right to.

[JohnMcM]

Is the Forfar pitch plastic?

[Since452]

Think we'll see our weakest possible side out for this one. The available big guns got a game on Saturday to keep them ticking over. I think Shanley and Gullan will both start. Saturday far more important.

[lord bunberry]

Is the Forfar pitch plastic?
Aye.

[007 Mickey Weir]

Callum Yeats can play LB of LCB. Maybe give him a run out in a back 4. Or play Mackie LB

Barnes
Gray MacGregor Yeats Mackie
Magennis McGinn Halberg
Mallan
Shanley Gullan

Diamond midfield. Not ideal but we don’t have any other options just now.

Protect Stevenson, Boyle, Nisbet and Doidge for Ross County.

[brog]

Do we not have any CBs in the development squad?

Ben Stirling & Sadiki both left. Josh Doig has played CB but I assume he's still out?

[007 Mickey Weir]

Ben Stirling & Sadiki both left. Josh Doig has played CB but I assume he's still out?

I edited my post. Callum Yeats is about our only other choice as Dino Leddie went on loan to a Spanish team

[Billy Whizz]

Do we not have any CBs in the development squad?

Edit - Callum Yeats can play LB of LCB. Maybe give him a run out in a back 4. Or play Mackie LB and Stevenson LCB.

Not ideal but we don’t have any other options just now.

Protect Boyle, Nisbet and Doidge for Ross County.

Yates has signed for Stenhousemuir on loan
We have no one left from last years development team, apart from Shanley, Bradley and Paddy Martin the goalie

[EI255]

Tbh, I'd be amazed if this season plays out in full. There is a monster coming our way. Football, I'm afraid, pales into insignificance.

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[JohnMcM]

Aye.

Thank you my Lordship.

Looks like we'll be grinding out a result then. Our older guys, Gray and McGreggor in particular probably can't take another match so soo on plastic? Martin Boyle's knee probably needs a rest too.

Time for the really young ones?

[easty]

Tbh, I'd be amazed if this season plays out in full. There is a monster coming our way. Football, I'm afraid, pales into insignificance.

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You could just post this in every football thread I suppose.

No point chatting about football, there’s a “monster” coming.

[Since452]

Tbh, I'd be amazed if this season plays out in full. There is a monster coming our way. Football, I'm afraid, pales into insignificance.

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Paul McGinn would still get a solid 7 against it

[JohnMcM]

Tbh, I'd be amazed if this season plays out in full. There is a monster coming our way. Football, I'm afraid, pales into insignificance.

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What's coming over the hill,,,,,,,,,,?

[thebakerboy]

Do we know if there is PPV available for this game does anyone know?

[mim]

https://www.forfarathletic.co.uk/item/4288-live-stream-forfar-athletic-v-hibernian

[thebakerboy]

Cheers thanks for that

[King Cosell]

Tbh, I'd be amazed if this season plays out in full. There is a monster coming our way. Football, I'm afraid, pales into insignificance.

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Tell 'em about the the honey, Mummy!

[EI255]

Tell 'em about the the honey, Mummy!Honey, in the shape of a killer disease.

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[Billy Whizz]

Stevenson and Wright out injured for tomorrow
Only 13 fit outfield players available

[lord bunberry]

Thank you my Lordship.

Looks like we'll be grinding out a result then. Our older guys, Gray and McGreggor in particular probably can't take another match so soo on plastic? Martin Boyle's knee probably needs a rest too.

Time for the really young ones?
I think we’ll see quite a few changes for this one.

[Radium]

... and now we know why Hanlon is out


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[Heisenberg]

Stevenson and Wright out injured for tomorrow
Only 13 fit outfield players available

Can’t even think who we’ll be playing at the back in that case. Gray, McGregor and who knows after that.

[B.H.F.C]

Can’t even think who we’ll be playing at the back in that case. Gray, McGregor and who knows after that.

Sean Mackie at left back I’d think. Hallberg right back maybe.

[Heisenberg]

Sean Mackie at left back I’d think.

Forgot all about him!

[Billy Whizz]

Sean Mackie at left back I’d think. Hallberg right back maybe.

Think it could be this

[jeffers]

Going with a smaller squad certainly looking risky at the moment. Hopefully some of the injured are back on Saturday. What’s up with Paul Hanlon ? I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere.

[lord bunberry]

Going with a smaller squad certainly looking risky at the moment. Hopefully some of the injured are back on Saturday. What’s up with Paul Hanlon ? I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere.
Called up for Scotland.

[scoopyboy]

Going with a smaller squad certainly looking risky at the moment. Hopefully some of the injured are back on Saturday. What’s up with Paul Hanlon ? I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere.

When he scored against Brora he landed awkwardly on his leg and hurt his groin.

[jeffers]

Called up for Scotland.

Cheers, just saw that. What was up with him on Saturday ?

[hibee_girl]

Stevenson and Wright out injured for tomorrow
Only 13 fit outfield players available

What injuries do they have?

[jeffers]

When he scored against Brora he landed awkwardly on his leg and hurt his groin.

Aah cheers. I remember noticing him struggle a bit after that. Glad he recovered to get his well deserved call up.

[Billy Whizz]

What injuries do they have?

No idea, just heard Jack Ross says this on his pre match press conference

[Billy Whizz]

Doig released from quarantine, so could be in the squad tomorrow night

[green day]

Doig released from quarantine, so could be in the squad tomorrow night

thank goodness, we are on the barest of bare bones now

[B.H.F.C]

Doig released from quarantine, so could be in the squad tomorrow night

Him and McGregor centre half with Gray and Mackie at full back then. Would, at least, be four players playing a fairly natural position!

[jeffers]

Him and McGregor centre half with Gray and Mackie at full back then. Would, at least, be four players playing a fairly natural position!

Maybe Hallberg at right back, Doig at left and SDG alongside Daz again.

[Tambo]

Will be a very small squad that's for sure but hopefully a better performance than the last two games.

[Ray_]

What was the extent of Murphy's injury?

[Iggy Pope]

What injuries do they have?

Wee Lewis took a sore one bottom left corner near the end of the game on Saturday. Looked to be struggling.

[Brightside]

Him and McGregor centre half with Gray and Mackie at full back then. Would, at least, be four players playing a fairly natural position!

Agree with that. Doig more than capable of playing CH.

[Sir David Gray]

Stevenson and Wright out injured for tomorrow
Only 13 fit outfield players available

Presumably with the 13 being...?;

Gray
Magennis
Doidge
Boyle
Mallan
Nisbet
Gullan
Hallberg
S McGinn
McGregor
Mackie
Shanley
Bradley

International duty;

Marciano
Hanlon
Porteous
P McGinn
Gogic
Doig

Injured/ill

Wright
Newell
Stevenson
Murphy
Allan

If that's the case then we'll presumably go with;

Barnes

Mackie
McGregor
Gray

Magennis
Mallan
S McGinn
Hallberg
Boyle

Doidge
Nisbet

Subs

Samson
Bradley
Gullan
Shanley
Youth player
Youth player

I'd still like to think that team will have enough to beat Forfar to be honest.

[SHODAN]

Hallberg will stay at RB.

[A Hi-Bee]

Will be a very small squad that's for sure but hopefully a better performance than the last two games.

We only need 11 players, if all to play to their strengths we win
:flag::flag::flag:

[Tyler Durden]

Presumably with the 13 being...?;

Gray
Magennis
Doidge
Boyle
Mallan
Nisbet
Gullan
Hallberg
S McGinn
McGregor
Mackie
Shanley
Bradley

International duty;

Marciano
Hanlon
Porteous
P McGinn
Gogic
Doig

Injured/ill

Wright
Newell
Stevenson
Murphy
Allan

If that's the case then we'll presumably go with;

Barnes

Mackie
McGregor
Gray

Magennis
Mallan
S McGinn
Hallberg
Boyle

Doidge
Nisbet

Subs

Samson
Bradley
Gullan
Shanley
Youth player
Youth player

I'd still like to think that team will have enough to beat Forfar to be honest.

If we field that team I’d expect us to win 4 or 5-0.

Forfar are rubbish, haven’t played and have their own injury problems

I would be happy to see Hallberg at CB and Gray at RB. We’re going to have all the ball and we have McGinn to protect a back 4.

[King Cosell]

Barnes

Hallberg
Gray
McGregor
Mackie

S. Mginn
Magennis
Mallan

Shanley
Doidge
Gullan

[CMurdoch]

Barnes

Hallberg
McGregor
Doig
Mackie

S. McGinn
Magennis 45 mins
Mallan
Gullan

Shanley
Nisbet 45 mins


Subs.
Boyle on for Magennis at half time
Doidge on for Nisbet at half time
Gray on for McGregor at half time
Bradley on for McGinn after an hour
Samson

Substitutions obviously dependent on the score at the time

[CyberSauzee]

Supposing Nisbet gets called up, and Doidge gets called up for Wales - at what point would the Forfar game be called off? Or can it be?

If we can't field a team because of Covid fair enough, but if we can't field a team because a UEFA competition takes precedence then what's the rule for the League Cup?

[Greenbeard]

If we field that team I’d expect us to win 4 or 5-0.

Forfar are rubbish, haven’t played and have their own injury problems

I would be happy to see Hallberg at CB and Gray at RB. We’re going to have all the ball and we have McGinn to protect a back 4.
Aye, they are team in decline, compared to Brora and Cove who are used to winning. Went from 2nd top League 1 18-19 to 2nd bottom 19-20, only winning 6 games and -21 goal difference. Lost at home pre-season to Brechin who have been well and truly pumped their last two games. Even with our depleted squad, players playing out of position, plastic pitch etc. we should cruise this one with a Titanic win.

[Since452]

Aye, they are team in decline, compared to Brora and Cove who are used to winning. Went from 2nd top League 1 18-19 to 2nd bottom 19-20, only winning 6 games and -21 goal difference. Lost at home pre-season to Brechin who have been well and truly pumped their last two games. Even with our depleted squad, players playing out of position, plastic pitch etc. we should cruise this one with a Titanic win.

Yup. Despite them being an established league 1 side I think this will be the easiest of our Betfred games

[Billy Whizz]

Yup. Despite them being a league 1 side I think this will be the easiest of our Betfred games

They’ve got a few experienced players on their books

[JohnMcM]

Yup. Despite them being an established league 1 side I think this will be the easiest of our Betfred games

I hope you're right. They have 3-4 guys who have been round the block a few times though. They're at home on a pitch we don't like playing on and will be looking for the upset. I don't think it will be as easy as some predict but I hope it will be.

[heretoday]

We'll moider dese bums.

[marinello59]

I hope you're right. They have 3-4 guys who have been round the block a few times though. They're at home on a pitch we don't like playing on and will be looking for the upset. I don't think it will be as easy as some predict but I hope it will be.

I was far more worried about the Cove game than this one. Which probably means we will lose. :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

I was far more worried about the Cove game than this one. Which probably means we will lose. :greengrin

Agree personally thought Cove were good and will do well this season though an ask to get up with Falkirk and Partick in the league

[JimBHibees]

They’ve got a few experienced players on their books

Yep will be tricky but think a comfortable win and hopefully no injuries.

[Alfred E Newman]

Tbh, I'd be amazed if this season plays out in full. There is a monster coming our way. Football, I'm afraid, pales into insignificance.

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Help!:shocked:

[JXM73]

Hearts already got their penalty...