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AugustaHibs
07-10-2020, 08:26 PM
I’m being totally genuine when I ask, what does he actually do/bring to the team?
Andy74
07-10-2020, 08:28 PM
I’m being totally genuine when I ask, what does he actually do/bring to the team?
No need. He was fine tonight. He is what he is, plays it simple enough and also had a decent assist.
There’s a long list of players that could have had a new thread started about them ahead of him.
hibee_girl
07-10-2020, 08:28 PM
Apart from his assist tonight you mean?
Beefster
07-10-2020, 08:30 PM
I’m being totally genuine when I ask, what does he actually do/bring to the team?
Other than the assist?
Edit: beaten to it.
Hibernian Verse
07-10-2020, 08:32 PM
Amazing that Hallberg has been picked out for a thread of his own given the performance or some of our other players.
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Mibbes Aye
07-10-2020, 08:32 PM
He is the epitome of 'tidy' and 'neat'. Any coach wants someone like that in his squad.
NORTHERNHIBBY
07-10-2020, 08:33 PM
Hallberg might be the new Lewis.
AugustaHibs
07-10-2020, 08:34 PM
I more meant where do people seeing him fit in but the hysterics are out
supermcginn
07-10-2020, 08:36 PM
No need. He was fine tonight. He is what he is, plays it simple enough and also had a decent assist.
There’s a long list of players that could have had a new thread started about them ahead of him.
It's a fans forum of course there's a need. Hallberg gets well paid for doing not a lot, the most meh player in the whole squad.
nonshinyfinish
07-10-2020, 08:36 PM
I more meant where do people seeing him fit in but the hysterics are out
Yep, "what does he actually do/bring to the team?" is a totally normal way to ask how people see him fitting in.
Hibbyradge
07-10-2020, 08:37 PM
I more meant where do people seeing him fit in but the hysterics are out
That backtrack is worthy of 10 Downing Street. Good work. :wink:
Tyler Durden
07-10-2020, 08:39 PM
It's a fans forum of course there's a need. Hallberg gets well paid for doing not a lot, the most meh player in the whole squad.
Nah it’s pretty clear what he brings to the team and the type of player he is.
If people don’t rate him then fair enough but he seems to be another that some posters have made their mind up now and won’t give him any credit regardless of how he plays.
SHODAN
07-10-2020, 08:40 PM
He's the worst player to ever to play for Hibs. How dare he only provide one assist tonight? I want my money back! :grr: :grr: :grr:
Thought he was pretty decent tonight, 2-3 lovely passes and a couple of really good runs in behind, plays better in that roaming role.
AugustaHibs
07-10-2020, 08:42 PM
He's the worst player to ever to play for Hibs. How dare he only provide one assist tonight? I want my money back! :grr: :grr: :grr:
😳
IberianHibernian
07-10-2020, 08:45 PM
Thought he was pretty decent tonight, 2-3 lovely passes and a couple of really good runs in behind, plays better in that roaming role.
Agree entirely . Would have been my man of match and was disappointed when he went off .
Brightside
07-10-2020, 08:50 PM
I’m being totally genuine when I ask, what does he actually do/bring to the team?
Get a grip man. Was one of the better players tonight but you can’t wait to get a dig in. Big Doidge was rubbish. Maybe start a thread on him.
eastterrace
07-10-2020, 08:51 PM
I’m being totally genuine when I ask, what does he actually do/bring to the team? not a lot imo.
H18 SFR
07-10-2020, 08:51 PM
I felt we saw a different side to Hallberg tonight perhaps highlighting why the manager wants him at the club.
EI255
07-10-2020, 08:51 PM
I saw a journalist refer to us still having a soft centre.
Herein lies one of our soft centres.
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Smartie
07-10-2020, 08:51 PM
I thought he was one of very few tonight to get pass marks and he was half decent on Friday too.
He’s not exactly knocking the manager’s door down demanding to be put in the team, but he’s not letting the side down.
H18S NX
07-10-2020, 08:52 PM
He wasn't the worst player tonight
wookie70
07-10-2020, 08:53 PM
Thought he was pretty decent tonight, 2-3 lovely passes and a couple of really good runs in behind, plays better in that roaming role.
I thought he did well too and looked far better that wee bit further forward as he was early in the game. I think he is like Mallan in as much he is asked to play a holding role and it doesn't particularly suit him. Nothing wrong with his performance tonight and one that actually deserved pass marks
jacomo
07-10-2020, 08:56 PM
It's a fans forum of course there's a need. Hallberg gets well paid for doing not a lot, the most meh player in the whole squad.
I think this is fair. Just doesn’t seem to impose himself on any match.
I thought he did well too and looked far better that wee bit further forward as he was early in the game. I think he is like Mallan in as much he is asked to play a holding role and it doesn't particularly suit him. Nothing wrong with his performance tonight and one that actually deserved pass marks
When you play a DM like tonight, the other 2 midfielders have license to roam and get forward regularly, both he and Mallan did that pretty well tonight
gaz1875
07-10-2020, 08:57 PM
First half him and Mallan were the best 2 on the pitch, then Mallan dropped back and the slow play reappeared.
04Sauzee
07-10-2020, 08:58 PM
Thought he was one of our better players in the first half.
I had a funny feeling there would be a thread knocking him though.
Just_Jimmy
07-10-2020, 08:59 PM
it's hilarious how when he signed, after 4 games he was the greatest thing since sliced bread and we needed "11 hallbergs". now we have better, he's terrible.
truth is he's a decent squad player who can do a job as a sub or the odd start. exactly what we need atm.
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Smartie
07-10-2020, 09:04 PM
First half him and Mallan were the best 2 on the pitch, then Mallan dropped back and the slow play reappeared.
Mallan dropping back was key. Gullan got isolated and Mallan just clogged up space.
Mallan is starting to remind me of Kevin Nolan. Nolan did f all for large parts of games, the midfield he was part of would often be overrun as a result but he didn’t half have a lot of goals in him.
2 excellent finishes a good delivery for the 3rd and we should be talking MOTM stuff, but instead I’m left focussing on yet another hopeless Hibs midfield performance that Mallan was part of.
supermcginn
07-10-2020, 09:06 PM
it's hilarious how when he signed, after 4 games he was the greatest thing since sliced bread and we needed "11 hallbergs". now we have better, he's terrible.
truth is he's a decent squad player who can do a job as a sub or the odd start. exactly what we need atm.
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I can't remember anyone saying we needed 11 hallbergs. He looked fine against a pub team tonight but against Aberdeen he was hopeless. Says it all.
supermcginn
07-10-2020, 09:07 PM
Nah it’s pretty clear what he brings to the team and the type of player he is.
If people don’t rate him then fair enough but he seems to be another that some posters have made their mind up now and won’t give him any credit regardless of how he plays.
What does he bring to the team against top league opponents? He does nowt.
04Sauzee
07-10-2020, 09:08 PM
I can't remember anyone saying we needed 11 hallbergs. He looked fine against a pub team tonight but against Aberdeen he was hopeless. Says it all.
What pub do they play out off?
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:08 PM
He makes me miss Slivka.
People will back him until he leaves mind you.
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:09 PM
What pub do they play out off?
They play in the highland league ffs.
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:10 PM
Hallberg might be the new Lewis.
Left back in four years time then?
04Sauzee
07-10-2020, 09:10 PM
They play in the highland league ffs.
No need to tell me that
supermcginn
07-10-2020, 09:10 PM
What pub do they play out off?
Mate they are in the highland league, you can't claim they are a good side come on 😂😂😂😂
Since452
07-10-2020, 09:11 PM
Sick of these defeats. Everyone is useless. Oh sorry we won... Again
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:12 PM
No need to tell me that
Why be wide then?
04Sauzee
07-10-2020, 09:12 PM
Mate they are in the highland league, you can't claim they are a good side come on 😂😂😂😂
So not a pub league or a pub team.
The boy wasn't bad first half but you crack on 😂🤣
04Sauzee
07-10-2020, 09:13 PM
Why be wide then?
What are you on about?
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:14 PM
What are you on about?
They play in a pub league.
gaz1875
07-10-2020, 09:15 PM
Mallan dropping back was key. Gullan got isolated and Mallan just clogged up space.
Mallan is starting to remind me of Kevin Nolan. Nolan did f all for large parts of games, the midfield he was part of would often be overrun as a result but he didn’t half have a lot of goals in him.
2 excellent finishes a good delivery for the 3rd and we should be talking MOTM stuff, but instead I’m left focussing on yet another hopeless Hibs midfield performance that Mallan was part of.
They played such a high line as well there was no need for him to drop back looking for the ball, he scored 2 good goals playing further up. McGinn hardly had a touch, as you say clogged up midfield, 3 players doing 1 players job.
supermcginn
07-10-2020, 09:16 PM
So not a pub league or a pub team.
The boy wasn't bad first half but you crack on 😂🤣
He was playing against brora rangers ffs 😂😂 . What does he do against teams like Aberdeen? He must be on a decent wage and offers absolutely nothing in games that actually matter.
04Sauzee
07-10-2020, 09:16 PM
They play in a pub league.
I'll ask again what are you on about?
I never said they play in a pub league.
supermcginn
07-10-2020, 09:17 PM
I'll ask again what are you on about?
I never said they play in a pub league.
He's telling you they do play in a pub league.
CmoantheHibs
07-10-2020, 09:18 PM
Hallberg was one of our better players first half. Not sure why he is getting it tight after tonight.
Andy74
07-10-2020, 09:22 PM
He was playing against brora rangers ffs 😂😂 . What does he do against teams like Aberdeen? He must be on a decent wage and offers absolutely nothing in games that actually matter.
Against Aberdeen he was asked to play deep in the role Gogic has been playing. They only scored through a daft penalty.
Are you expecting him to be scoring lots of goals or playing like Scott Allan?
When he first arrived we were only losing goals when he went off or wasn’t playing. He is a good, measured player that positions himself well, passes well, keeps the ball and plays it simple.
When he’s allowed to play with a bit more freedom he can do it. He won is a late penalty at St Johnstone I think by getting in the box and had a good assist tonight.
Not really just offering nothing.
Greenbeard
07-10-2020, 09:23 PM
They played such a high line as well there was no need for him to drop back looking for the ball, he scored 2 good goals playing further up. McGinn hardly had a touch, as you say clogged up midfield, 3 players doing 1 players job.
Didn't see it but I presume playing to orders?
Big_Franck
07-10-2020, 09:26 PM
Hallberg was poor (again) but he was marginally better than Gray, McGregor and Stephen McGinn. Gray in particular looks miles off it, almost like an ex-footballer playing a charity match.
gaz1875
07-10-2020, 09:34 PM
Didn't see it but I presume playing to orders?
Wouldn't think just goes wandering instead of holding his position.
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:35 PM
He's telling you they do play in a pub league.
Exactly. Pre season friendlies against Walkers Shortbread 11. 🤣
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:36 PM
Against Aberdeen he was asked to play deep in the role Gogic has been playing. They only scored through a daft penalty.
Are you expecting him to be scoring lots of goals or playing like Scott Allan?
When he first arrived we were only losing goals when he went off or wasn’t playing. He is a good, measured player that positions himself well, passes well, keeps the ball and plays it simple.
When he’s allowed to play with a bit more freedom he can do it. He won is a late penalty at St Johnstone I think by getting in the box and had a good assist tonight.
Not really just offering nothing.
What was he asked to do on Friday last week? He made Gogic look like Pirlo.
Brooster
07-10-2020, 09:37 PM
Ever since his first game I've been trying to figure out what he's actually good at.
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 09:43 PM
Ever since his first game I've been trying to figure out what he's actually good at.
Told you mate. Making you miss Slivka.
He can’t pass, he can’t tackle, he’s not fast, he’s not aggressive and and can find space.
Every time he plays I think that he’s going to take the bull by the horns this time but he just looks like he’s hammering through the motions. Like Christian Erickson at Spurs when it was evident he wanted to leave.
He should be John McGinning it against teams lIke BR. I’m baffled why people for no reason feel the need to stick up for him.
Last season it was “his legs are gone he needs a rest”. Now it’s “he just needs games he’s a good player”. The guy should be good, he’s a good pedigree but he’s brutal.
Brightside
07-10-2020, 09:44 PM
Hallberg was poor (again) but he was marginally better than Gray, McGregor and Stephen McGinn. Gray in particular looks miles off it, almost like an ex-footballer playing a charity match.
if you think Hallberg was poor you didnt watch the game.
hibee_girl
07-10-2020, 09:47 PM
Hallberg was poor (again) but he was marginally better than Gray, McGregor and Stephen McGinn. Gray in particular looks miles off it, almost like an ex-footballer playing a charity match.
What did you expect from Gray? He’s not played since January!
04Sauzee
07-10-2020, 09:50 PM
if you think Hallberg was poor you didnt watch the game.
Glad someone else is of the same opinion.
superfurryhibby
07-10-2020, 09:50 PM
The attention seekers making lots of noise as usual. Emoty vessels etc, etc
Hallberg isn’t a player I rate too highly, but he did a reasonable job tonight. Nowhere near meriting a critical thread.
jeffers
07-10-2020, 09:53 PM
What did you expect from Gray? He’s not played since January!
Agreed. He did OK, considering he’s barely played in months.
IberianHibernian
07-10-2020, 09:53 PM
Hallberg was one of our better players first half. Not sure why he is getting it tight after tonight.
I thought he was our best albeit against weak opposition . No idea why he`s been singled out tonight .
supermcginn
07-10-2020, 09:55 PM
Told you mate. Making you miss Slivka.
He can’t pass, he can’t tackle, he’s not fast, he’s not aggressive and and can find space.
Every time he plays I think that he’s going to take the bull by the horns this time but he just looks like he’s hammering through the motions. Like Christian Erickson at Spurs when it was evident he wanted to leave.
He should be John McGinning it against teams lIke BR. I’m baffled why people for no reason feel the need to stick up for him.
Last season it was “his legs are gone he needs a rest”. Now it’s “he just needs games he’s a good player”. The guy should be good, he’s a good pedigree but he’s brutal.
100 percent spot on.
Vault Boy
07-10-2020, 09:57 PM
Hallberg made some good runs tonight, but mostly didn't do too much when he received the ball. A decent assist for our second, mind you.
I get the Slivka comparison and I don't think it's unfair. I don't think he's a bad player, I didn't think Slivka was a bad player, but I wouldn't want either in our starting 11 in an ideal world.
Sometimes the criticism stretches too far, other times it's quite fair and balanced. I wouldn't have singled him out tonight personally.
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 10:04 PM
Hallberg made some good runs tonight, but mostly didn't do too much when he received the ball. A decent assist for our second, mind you.
I get the Slivka comparison and I don't think it's unfair. I don't think he's a bad player, I didn't think Slivka was a bad player, but I wouldn't want either in our starting 11 in an ideal world.
Sometimes the criticism stretches too far, other times it's quite fair and balanced. I wouldn't have singled him out tonight personally.
I think the criticism genuinely comes because people want and think he should be doing better. He looks the part and just want him to have an outstanding game and show there’s a player there.
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 10:04 PM
100 percent spot on.
👍
cameronw-hfc
07-10-2020, 10:09 PM
I like Halberg and I think a lot of the fans have fallen victim of expecting him to be a different type of player. I think he does the neat and tidy stuff well and gets lost when playing as a DM. Reminds me of Fyvie. Divides the fans but ultimately isn't meant to be a blindingly creative player. Just a neat and tidy player in the middle of the park to keep it ticking.
He lost his place in the squad towards the end of last season and hasn't been able to cement one down since. He's not had a great chance at us, albeit a decent amount of games. A lot were in a position he was openly trying to learn, DM. The rest have been late subs/covering the odd game for an injury, needs a run of games in a none dire performing team.
Nicho87
07-10-2020, 10:28 PM
Way I always look at it. If Hallberg was playing for a Motherwell or Kilmarnock would we be looking to sign him based on his performances he has put in so far?
I don’t think they would have caught our eye at all if we are brutally honest. Sadly he falls into slivka territory, not quite good enough and not the worst we’ve had.
Some of the comments on this thread and brutal and cringeworthy, usual suspects too.
The Modfather
07-10-2020, 10:35 PM
A wage that could be better utilised IMO.
The 90+2
07-10-2020, 10:38 PM
A wage that could be better utilised IMO.
^^ welcome to the usual suspect group.
AugustaHibs
07-10-2020, 10:43 PM
I don’t understand footballers mindsets sometimes. Why hasn’t he gone out there and controlled the game? Didn’t get stuck in, never seemed to demand the ball. Far too often he just lets game pass him by. I’m only singling him out because it’s clear to see he has more to offer than that but he just never seems to go and grab the opportunities
cameronw-hfc
08-10-2020, 02:18 AM
I don’t understand footballers mindsets sometimes. Why hasn’t he gone out there and controlled the game? Didn’t get stuck in, never seemed to demand the ball. Far too often he just lets the game pass him by. I’m only singling him out because it’s clear to see he has more to offer than that but he just never seems to go and grab the opportunities
I'm sure in an ideal world for him he'd go out and dictate the game. Footballers are human too and go through tough patches, nothing to do with mentality. If he could just switch it up and go control a game then I'm sure he would have done
JimBHibees
08-10-2020, 05:59 AM
I thought he was our best albeit against weak opposition . No idea why he`s been singled out tonight .
Agree mainly attention seeking.
Tyler Durden
08-10-2020, 06:48 AM
What does he bring to the team against top league opponents? He does nowt.
He breaks up the play, he keeps the ball, takes a good set piece and scores the odd goal.
Scored against Celtic and Hearts. Was fine against Aberdeen this season. Pretty sure he played 75+ minutes against them last season as we gubbed them 3-0 at Easter Rd and should’ve won the 1-1 at Pittodrie.
He’s a good squad player.
Andy74
08-10-2020, 06:52 AM
I think the criticism genuinely comes because people want and think he should be doing better. He looks the part and just want him to have an outstanding game and show there’s a player there.
Perhaps don’t use ridiculous points like he can’t pass and can’t run then? Obviously nonsense.
B.H.F.C
08-10-2020, 07:02 AM
I'm sure in an ideal world for him he'd go out and dictate the game. Footballers are human too and go through tough patches, nothing to do with mentality. If he could just switch it up and go control a game then I'm sure he would have done
Last nights poor performance was a lot to do with mentality IMO (not just Hallberg though). We switched off instead of really pushing on and trying to run up a cricket score. When we did, nobody really tried to get us going again and we were happy to just coast through the game.
Brightside
08-10-2020, 07:23 AM
Some people on this thread know zero about football. Opinions eh. Vastly overrated. Him and Mallan were the best of our midfield last night. By a distance.
CmoantheHibs
08-10-2020, 07:25 AM
I don’t understand footballers mindsets sometimes. Why hasn’t he gone out there and controlled the game? Didn’t get stuck in, never seemed to demand the ball. Far too often he just lets game pass him by. I’m only singling him out because it’s clear to see he has more to offer than that but he just never seems to go and grab the opportunities
First half he was the one controlling the game. He was going and taking the ball from defence, trying to link up play, spreading it wide and getting forward making runs past our striker. Our tempo wasn’t fast enough but that was down to the team as a whole.
blackpoolhibs
08-10-2020, 07:31 AM
Some people on this thread know zero about football. Opinions eh. Vastly overrated. Him and Mallan were the best of our midfield last night. By a distance.
I'd prefer our usual midfield when we play proper teams. Don't mind last night's team against teams as bad as Brora though.
worcesterhibby
08-10-2020, 07:35 AM
Hallberg was the best passer of the ball in the team last night. He showed well for the ball and provided an assist. People slagging him didn't watch the game or no nothing about football.
Hiber-nation
08-10-2020, 07:36 AM
Thought he had a great first half. Hardly saw him in the 2nd for whatever reason.
Brightside
08-10-2020, 07:39 AM
I'd prefer our usual midfield when we play proper teams. Don't mind last night's team against teams as bad as Brora though.
I don’t disagree. People are just looking daft criticising the player for last night and by doing so means their opinions will be ignored by many. Gogic is a huge miss for us in the middle as he actually pushes the midfield up. He doesn’t just sit in front of the defence like some people think.
MikeyS
08-10-2020, 07:46 AM
Some people on this thread know zero about football. Opinions eh. Vastly overrated. Him and Mallan were the best of our midfield last night. By a distance.
Your last 2 sentences are spot on, they were the best of our midfield but that wouldnt be hard considering the performances Wright & McGinn put in! There was also considerable distance between Mallan & Hallberg. Here was 2 players with a chance to impress, Mallan I feel did that right through but Hallberg, after a decent 1st half, started to hide in plain sight. It looks great being available to take it from the CBs on 18 yards but if all he is going to do is roll it 5 yards sideways to Gray or Stevenson, he might as well not have bothered. Compare that to Mallan who 9/10 times receives and looks to get us up the park & its night and day.
The Modfather
08-10-2020, 07:49 AM
I don’t disagree. People are just looking daft criticising the player for last night and by doing so means their opinions will be ignored by many. Gogic is a huge miss for us in the middle as he actually pushes the midfield up. He doesn’t just sit in front of the defence like some people think.
Are people criticising Hallberg solely based on last night? Or are they looking at last night as another opportunity missed for him to really show he can challenge the first team. We’ve had a lot worse than him, but on the flip side I don’t think many would have noticed if he’d left in the transfer window.
Talking about opinions being ignored, I don’t think the “some people know nothing about football”, insinuating that you have a greater insight, is very constructive either and helps to polarise debates.
Brightside
08-10-2020, 08:01 AM
Are people criticising Hallberg solely based on last night? Or are they looking at last night as another opportunity missed for him to really show he can challenge the first team. We’ve had a lot worse than him, but on the flip side I don’t think many would have noticed if he’d left in the transfer window.
Talking about opinions being ignored, I don’t think the “some people know nothing about football”, insinuating that you have a greater insight, is very constructive either and helps to polarise debates.
Re your last point. I think you are right. But i think many are at the point now of not even bothering to debate with the "usual suspects". Comments like "Cannot pass" etc are just utter nonsense and as such if people have that opinion they should be ignored. Its the same people all the time. Its never constructive criticism its ill thought out feeling based on no evidence. Newall, Hanlon, Wright, Doidge, Murphy, Gullan, Mallan...... all players that people on here will say are not good enough. Based on absolutely nothing but a below par performance. Some people clearly stated that Hallberg didnt deliver last night. Well thats just plain wrong.
Monts
08-10-2020, 08:22 AM
Re your last point. I think you are right. But i think many are at the point now of not even bothering to debate with the "usual suspects". Comments like "Cannot pass" etc are just utter nonsense and as such if people have that opinion they should be ignored. Its the same people all the time. Its never constructive criticism its ill thought out feeling based on no evidence. Newall, Hanlon, Wright, Doidge, Murphy, Gullan, Mallan...... all players that people on here will say are not good enough. Based on absolutely nothing but a below par performance. Some people clearly stated that Hallberg didnt deliver last night. Well thats just plain wrong.
Surely that depends on what you were expecting him to deliver?
superfurryhibby
08-10-2020, 08:23 AM
Some of the comments on this thread and brutal and cringeworthy, usual suspects too.
Yep, a wee group of attention seekers, some of whom are probably the same person, backing each other up.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:27 AM
Perhaps don’t use ridiculous points like he can’t pass and can’t run then? Obviously nonsense.
He can’t. He’s terrible.
What is ridiculous is trying to say the guy is good I’m a Hibs top just for the sake of defending a player in a hibs top.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:29 AM
Yep, a wee group of attention seekers, some of whom are probably the same person, backing each other up.
Why would anyone want to attention seek and no just give an honest opinion?
Can’t defend a point = attention seekers.
Hallberg isn’t good enough. Defending him isn’t going to change that fact.
Brightside
08-10-2020, 08:30 AM
He can’t. He’s terrible.
What is ridiculous is trying to say the guy is good I’m a Hibs top just for the sake of defending a player in a hibs top.
See - this just highlights it. This is just rubbish. Its not an opinion. Its just rubbish.
superfurryhibby
08-10-2020, 08:31 AM
He can’t. He’s terrible.
What is ridiculous is trying to say the guy is good I’m a Hibs top just for the sake of defending a player in a hibs top.
He can and he isn't. See how that goes?
He's a fringe player, I wouldn't over stimulate myself with fretting about him too much. I haven't read anyone defending him just because he's a Hibs player. More because of the very obvious nonsense being spouted by a few on here who love any opportunity to revel in abject pishy breeked negativity
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:31 AM
Re your last point. I think you are right. But i think many are at the point now of not even bothering to debate with the "usual suspects". Comments like "Cannot pass" etc are just utter nonsense and as such if people have that opinion they should be ignored. Its the same people all the time. Its never constructive criticism its ill thought out feeling based on no evidence. Newall, Hanlon, Wright, Doidge, Murphy, Gullan, Mallan...... all players that people on here will say are not good enough. Based on absolutely nothing but a below par performance. Some people clearly stated that Hallberg didnt deliver last night. Well thats just plain wrong.
If you are going to rip other posters at least get our players names right.
His names Joe Newell.
Brooster
08-10-2020, 08:33 AM
Yep, a wee group of attention seekers, some of whom are probably the same person, backing each other up.
So someone who doesn't agree with you is an attention seeker? Is that how it works?
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:33 AM
He can and he isn't. See how that goes?
He's a fringe player, I wouldn't over stimulate myself with fretting about him too much. I haven't read anyone defending him just because he's a Hibs player. More because of the very obvious nonsense being spouted by a few on here who love any opportunity to revel in abject pishy breeked negativity
You think he was brought in to be a fringe player?
There’s literally no negativity on here apart from disappointment Hallberg isn’t good enough. Can posters not point that out like?
You’ve just admitted he’s a fringe player too. The irony mate.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:35 AM
So someone who doesn't agree with you is an attention seeker? Is that how it works?
Are you logged on as Brooster? Just checking 🤣🤣
B.H.F.C
08-10-2020, 08:36 AM
So someone who doesn't agree with you is an attention seeker? Is that how it works?
Seems to be. Posts about ‘attention seeking’ and ‘not knowing anything about football’ are far more tiresome and less constructive than folk actually giving an opinion on a player or game, whatever that opinion may be.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:38 AM
See - this just highlights it. This is just rubbish. Its not an opinion. Its just rubbish.
Tell me what he does then. Defend the player instead of just saying opinions are rubbish.
Post what the player is good at and brings to the team.
The floor is yours 👌
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:38 AM
Seems to be. Posts about ‘attention seeking’ and ‘not knowing anything about football’ are far more tiresome and less constructive than folk actually giving an opinion on a player or game, whatever that opinion may be.
See above 👍
CmoantheHibs
08-10-2020, 08:39 AM
If you are going to rip other posters at least get our players names right.
His names Joe Newell.
A bit petty really considering you confessed to being a Hibs top in post 88.:wink::greengrin
MWHIBBIES
08-10-2020, 08:40 AM
I thought the system was more of an issue than individuals. These players are not chosing to sit so deep against Brora. They are surely being told to. We got our first goal by pressing them hard and then we literally do not do it again but the entire game. We let Brora out far too easily. The midfield was okay with the ball but awful without it.
superfurryhibby
08-10-2020, 08:45 AM
You think he was brought in to be a fringe player?
There’s literally no negativity on here apart from disappointment Hallberg isn’t good enough. Can posters not point that out like?
You’ve just admitted he’s a fringe player too. The irony mate.
I don't think he's good enough to take the club to where we want to be, but there's degrees of negativity and there's people who love ramping it up whenever they get the chance to.
superfurryhibby
08-10-2020, 08:47 AM
So someone who doesn't agree with you is an attention seeker? Is that how it works?
Aye, obviously that's what I'm saying right enough :confused:
Brightside
08-10-2020, 08:50 AM
Tell me what he does then. Defend the player instead of just saying opinions are rubbish.
Post what the player is good at and brings to the team.
The floor is yours 👌
Mark Twain said it best. Have a good day.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:50 AM
A bit petty really considering you confessed to being a Hibs top in post 88.:wink::greengrin
😂
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:51 AM
Mark Twain said it best. Have a good day.
Constructive as always.
You too.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 08:52 AM
I don't think he's good enough to take the club to where we want to be, but there's degrees of negativity and there's people who love ramping it up whenever they get the chance to.
Am I included in that, yes?
Brightside
08-10-2020, 08:53 AM
I thought the system was more of an issue than individuals. These players are not chosing to sit so deep against Brora. They are surely being told to. We got our first goal by pressing them hard and then we literally do not do it again but the entire game. We let Brora out far too easily. The midfield was okay with the ball but awful without it.
I agree with this. Players dont sit back unless being instructed. Our wingers and FBs had unbelievably quiet games against a poor team that they should be ripping up to be honest. Its was a game played at training pace once we were 2 up and perhaps thats what Jack wanted to do.
AugustaHibs
08-10-2020, 08:55 AM
Honest question for folk who rate him. Is he better than slivka?
jacomo
08-10-2020, 08:55 AM
Hallberg made some good runs tonight, but mostly didn't do too much when he received the ball. A decent assist for our second, mind you.
I get the Slivka comparison and I don't think it's unfair. I don't think he's a bad player, I didn't think Slivka was a bad player, but I wouldn't want either in our starting 11 in an ideal world.
Sometimes the criticism stretches too far, other times it's quite fair and balanced. I wouldn't have singled him out tonight personally.
Very decent assist but I found his decision making at other times infuriating - trying to ping the ball over distance when short sharp passes would have pulled Brora out of position and turned them.
I don’t like to criticise any Hibs player but Hallberg is distinctly average. With protection from Stephen McGinn alongside him and Stevie Mallan further forward he should have bossed the middle of the park imo.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 09:01 AM
I agree with this. Players dont sit back unless being instructed. Our wingers and FBs had unbelievably quiet games against a poor team that they should be ripping up to be honest. Its was a game played at training pace once we were 2 up and perhaps thats what Jack wanted to do.
Blaming Jack Ross for Hallberg being average against a highland league side is a new one 🤣🤣
Brightside
08-10-2020, 09:03 AM
Honest question for folk who rate him. Is he better than slivka?
Similar level. I'm happy with that. Excellent squad player that can do a job in many areas on the park. Hence why Jack kept him. I dont see him breaking into the starting 11 bar injury, but we now have an excellent starting 11.
Monts
08-10-2020, 09:05 AM
Blaming Jack Ross for Hallberg being average against a highland league side is a new one 🤣🤣
At least he's improved from terrible to average
MikeyS
08-10-2020, 09:07 AM
Seems to be. Posts about ‘attention seeking’ and ‘not knowing anything about football’ are far more tiresome and less constructive than folk actually giving an opinion on a player or game, whatever that opinion may be.
The irony is that its always the same 2 or 3 posters that post about "attention seeking" & "not knowing anything about football" when having a go at people for having a different opinion. As you rightly say, it's becoming very tiresome.
Brightside
08-10-2020, 09:09 AM
Blaming Jack Ross for Hallberg being average against a highland league side is a new one 🤣🤣
You are doing it again. Go away.
MWHIBBIES
08-10-2020, 09:11 AM
Blaming Jack Ross for Hallberg being average against a highland league side is a new one 🤣🤣
No one was doing that. His system wasnt very good yesterday, though. Should've had us boxing them in and pressing them high.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 09:15 AM
At least he's improved from terrible to average
Against a pub team 👍 well worth having tho eh?
Your thoughts on the guy? Or just joining in with arguing with posters but not giving opinions on the actual thread title?
Andy74
08-10-2020, 09:20 AM
Honest question for folk who rate him. Is he better than slivka?
Not that relevant really is it given Slivka was the one that decided to leave.
Hallberg is here and I don't see anyone saying he is a key player - he is a pretty dependable option when we have other players missing, nothing more or less than that really. Baffling why he should be singled out as an issue particularly after a game which we did quite well in. I can see why people might have strong views over key players but not really on the back ups.
Since452
08-10-2020, 09:28 AM
Similar level. I'm happy with that. Excellent squad player that can do a job in many areas on the park. Hence why Jack kept him. I dont see him breaking into the starting 11 bar injury, but we now have an excellent starting 11.
Agreed. Like it or not we're going to need Hallberg this season
rossevenil
08-10-2020, 09:32 AM
Not a great performance by the team at many levels but I`d actually say the player least deserving of his own thread about how crap he is on last nights performance is Hallberg.
Plenty players who didn`t perform very well last night and I`d say Drey Wright and Jamie Murphy before he was subbed were both either ineffective or just damned awful.
Hallberg isn`t a star turn and not someone who I think hurrah Hallberg is coming on but jeez he set up a goal tried to link up in the middle with Mcginn and brought more to the game than both Wright and Murphy did,even if it is simple basics.
Monts
08-10-2020, 09:35 AM
Against a pub team 👍 well worth having tho eh?
Your thoughts on the guy? Or just joining in with arguing with posters but not giving opinions on the actual thread title?
I thought he was fairly ineffectual, and was one of the players I texted my mate about as being disappointing.
He wasn't, and isn't, terrible though. But it seems no-one is going to change your mind on that, so not much point in any debate.
Robbo6-2
08-10-2020, 09:39 AM
Giving Hallberg a 3year contract has been a terrible piece of buisness.
The people defending him are the same people defending Josh Vela and Tom James.
Just accept it, hes not the quality required.
He simply is not good enough for a team wanting to finish in the top 3 or 4 in our league.
Bright_Hibee
08-10-2020, 09:46 AM
Hallberg is a below average player. The fact people are bigging up him getting an assist against Brora is embarrassing. If he was at Kilmarnock we'd not be losing sleep over facing him or saying he's a player we need.
WhileTheChief..
08-10-2020, 09:54 AM
Seems like a fairly steady, reliable kinda player.
Doesn’t do spectacular or anything to get you out your seat but he doesn’t make any howlers either.
I like the squad that Jack has built and think everyone will have their part to play over the season.
We’re bound to get hit with COVID at some point so need everyone up to speed. Last night was a good run out for a number of players.
AugustaHibs
08-10-2020, 09:55 AM
If hallberg played for hearts or aberdeen we’d be slaughtering him. Apparently funso ojo is pish but hallberg is a good squad player? I know who I’d rather have
Andy74
08-10-2020, 09:57 AM
Hallberg is a below average player. The fact people are bigging up him getting an assist against Brora is embarrassing. If he was at Kilmarnock we'd not be losing sleep over facing him or saying he's a player we need.
Bright? Maybe not.
No one is 'bigging him up'. No one went out their way to start a thread about how Hallberg was good last night.
The comments on this thread are a reaction to the overly negative comments about his contribution and the fact he was singled out for a thread for it.
If he was at Kilmarnock I'd think they would be doing well if he was the sort of player they could turn to if their first team players were not available.
MagicSwirlingShip
08-10-2020, 09:59 AM
If hallberg played for hearts or aberdeen we’d be slaughtering him. Apparently funso ojo is pish but hallberg is a good squad player? I know who I’d rather have
What attributes does Ojo have that Hallberg doesn’t?
Michael
08-10-2020, 10:01 AM
He's like an even more average Slivka tbh.
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 10:10 AM
Bright? Maybe not.
No one is 'bigging him up'. No one went out their way to start a thread about how Hallberg was good last night.
The comments on this thread are a reaction to the overly negative comments about his contribution and the fact he was singled out for a thread for it.
If he was at Kilmarnock I'd think they would be doing well if he was the sort of player they could turn to if their first team players were not available.
Why start by slagging someone you don’t agree with?
Can you advise what he brings to the team perhaps?
The 90+2
08-10-2020, 10:12 AM
What attributes does Ojo have that Hallberg doesn’t?
A better bank balance for being similarly pap?
But it’s thank god we missed out on that one but MH keeps a game running and flowing or some ****🤷*♂️
Tyler Durden
08-10-2020, 10:30 AM
Why start by slagging someone you don’t agree with?
Can you advise what he brings to the team perhaps?
Andy has already done so on this thread. I have too.
You choose to ignore that for some reason and talk absolute nonsense, that Hallberg can’t pass and can’t run. With that type of comment is it any wonder people say that you know nothing about football?
Tyler Durden
08-10-2020, 10:33 AM
Giving Hallberg a 3year contract has been a terrible piece of buisness.
The people defending him are the same people defending Josh Vela and Tom James.
Just accept it, hes not the quality required.
He simply is not good enough for a team wanting to finish in the top 3 or 4 in our league.
It’s not. I would defend Hallberg but was delighted to see the back of those 2.
Hallberg is currently a sub for a team who will finish in the top 4. He’s of a similar quality to the subs that Aberdeen would call upon. He may actually improve over time aswell, something that seems to be forgotten by many.
The Modfather
08-10-2020, 10:55 AM
It’s not. I would defend Hallberg but was delighted to see the back of those 2.
Hallberg is currently a sub for a team who will finish in the top 4. He’s of a similar quality to the subs that Aberdeen would call upon. He may actually improve over time aswell, something that seems to be forgotten by many.
That is possible, but I can’t help but feel he is drifting through his Hibs career and will be gone in one of the next few windows to be instantly forgotten.
It’s said a lot (admittedly by me too) that he’s a good squad player, and he’s not a bad one, but more often than not when he does come on there’s a marked drop in the team’s performance IMO. That isn’t always down to him of course, like Hamilton last week. That was as much about them bringing the big guy on up front as it was the changes in midfield. However I can’t remember many games where he’s improved us, individually or collectively, and his biggest asset seems to be that he’s steady and doesn’t make many mistakes when he does come in. Is that enough? I can’t help but feel his wage would be better spent on someone more specific, like a backup to Gogic.
hibee316
08-10-2020, 11:21 AM
It's a nice problem to have when Hallberg is your worst player.
Alfred E Newman
08-10-2020, 11:29 AM
Mallan dropping back was key. Gullan got isolated and Mallan just clogged up space.
Mallan is starting to remind me of Kevin Nolan. Nolan did f all for large parts of games, the midfield he was part of would often be overrun as a result but he didn’t half have a lot of goals in him.
2 excellent finishes a good delivery for the 3rd and we should be talking MOTM stuff, but instead I’m left focussing on yet another hopeless Hibs midfield performance that Mallan was part of.
As a long term season ticket holder have got to be honest and say I have no recollection of a Kevin Nolan playing for us. He obviously didn't leave a lasting impression.
MagicSwirlingShip
08-10-2020, 11:31 AM
It's a nice problem to have when Hallberg is your worst player.
This.
We’ve had such luminaries as Tom Taiwo and Isiah Osbourne as nailed on starters in the not so distant past, and folk are hammering into Hallberg, a squad player, after a WIN in the first round of the league cup.
Honestly I think this site needs a sub-forum for targeting players so the usual cats can amuse themselves with their constant hammering of players.
Beefster
08-10-2020, 11:35 AM
As a long term season ticket holder have got to be honest and say I have no recollection of a Kevin Nolan playing for us. He obviously didn't leave a lasting impression.
Maybe means Kevin McBride?
I haven't read the whole thread & I very rarely criticise Hibs players but I genuinely thought Hallberg contributed greatly to our overall malaise last night. I find him incredibly frustrating, he made a great run & clever pass for our 2nd goal then he retreated into his shell. At one stage I think he made about 5-10 consecutive backward passes. That helped set the tone for our gradual decline. He seems to have a problem with his peripheral vision. He made some decent shows for the ball, received it in space with time to turn & drive forward but invariably he passed the ball back to the person who had just passed to him. Effectively he passed the buck & the play making role back to our centre backs. I don't know if he lacks confidence or ability or both but with the arrival of Magennis, who looked excellent, I doubt we'll see much of Hallberg from now on.
MWHIBBIES
08-10-2020, 11:47 AM
As a long term season ticket holder have got to be honest and say I have no recollection of a Kevin Nolan playing for us. He obviously didn't leave a lasting impression.
Maybe means Kevin McBride?
He didn't play for us, he played for Bolton, West Ham and Newcastle.
Onion
08-10-2020, 11:53 AM
Hallberg has been given more than enough chances to prove himself at Hibs but is not up to standard. Playing Mallan and Hallberg is fine against Brorra Rangers, just to give the first choice players a rest but neither are good enough for a team aspiring for a top 4 finish in the Prem.
B.H.F.C
08-10-2020, 12:00 PM
Hallberg has been given more than enough chances to prove himself at Hibs but is not up to standard. Playing Mallan and Hallberg is fine against Brorra Rangers, just to give the first choice players a rest but neither are good enough for a team aspiring for a top 4 finish in the Prem.
Mallan splits opinion, but he’s offered substantially more than Hallberg in his time at Hibs IMO.
When you talk about having a squad, Mallan is someone worth having in it for me because he can offer something when played in the right area of the pitch. Think Tam McManus mentioned last night that we, at times, have basically asked him to play in a similar area of the pitch as Gogic. And Heckingbottom, in his wisdom, thought he could play on the right wing!
jacomo
08-10-2020, 12:00 PM
I haven't read the whole thread & I very rarely criticise Hibs players but I genuinely thought Hallberg contributed greatly to our overall malaise last night. I find him incredibly frustrating, he made a great run & clever pass for our 2nd goal then he retreated into his shell. At one stage I think he made about 5-10 consecutive backward passes. That helped set the tone for our gradual decline. He seems to have a problem with his peripheral vision. He made some decent shows for the ball, received it in space with time to turn & drive forward but invariably he passed the ball back to the person who had just passed to him. Effectively he passed the buck & the play making role back to our centre backs. I don't know if he lacks confidence or ability or both but with the arrival of Magennis, who looked excellent, I doubt we'll see much of Hallberg from now on.
Have to agree here. More than once Daz McGregor ambled up front to join the attack, I think because Hallberg seemed so keen to join our back line.
FilipinoHibs
08-10-2020, 12:07 PM
I agree. He looks average and slows the game down. He has no zip about him. Also scaffed the few chances that have come our way. He is usefull when you want to run the clock down. Probably on a good wage to. Like the new boy from ST Mirren. Lots of energy and takes the team forward. Nice range of passing to.
Bright_Hibee
08-10-2020, 12:27 PM
Bright? Maybe not.
No one is 'bigging him up'. No one went out their way to start a thread about how Hallberg was good last night.
The comments on this thread are a reaction to the overly negative comments about his contribution and the fact he was singled out for a thread for it.
If he was at Kilmarnock I'd think they would be doing well if he was the sort of player they could turn to if their first team players were not available.
For the record Bright is my surname rather than my IQ.
I won't be discussing this with you any further as, quite frankly, you're an ersepiece. More than happy to debate with posters that show respect for others opinions though.
Edinburgh Green
08-10-2020, 12:30 PM
I haven't read the whole thread & I very rarely criticise Hibs players but I genuinely thought Hallberg contributed greatly to our overall malaise last night. I find him incredibly frustrating, he made a great run & clever pass for our 2nd goal then he retreated into his shell. At one stage I think he made about 5-10 consecutive backward passes. That helped set the tone for our gradual decline. He seems to have a problem with his peripheral vision. He made some decent shows for the ball, received it in space with time to turn & drive forward but invariably he passed the ball back to the person who had just passed to him. Effectively he passed the buck & the play making role back to our centre backs. I don't know if he lacks confidence or ability or both but with the arrival of Magennis, who looked excellent, I doubt we'll see much of Hallberg from now on.
Yeah this is where I am with him. We've just signed another player in his position, he gets a start against lowly opposition and he produces another tepid performance. He's not gonna get a better chance to show Ross that he should be in his plans.
People are talking about him being a good squad player, yeah possibly, however that's not why he was signed.
worcesterhibby
08-10-2020, 12:38 PM
Hibs are having a great season by our standards. We are playing some excellent football at times and have made some astute and exciting sigings. We have won far more matches than we have lost and we are looking every bit the top 4 side that we currently are. We make 8 changes to the team for a match against a lower league side in the League Cup and after a bright start, we stutter a bit before finally putting the game to bed and getting the win our overall play deserved.
For some reason that leads some posters to decide to vindictively slag off one of our own players (despite the fact that he was one of our better performers on the night) and fill the board with negative drivel. There have been a few posts that have analysed what they don't like about Hallberg - I can accept what they say, although I don't always agree, but those just ripping into him and saying "he offers nothing" are either lacking in any knoweldge about football, are hearts fans or just trolls.
Hallberg is a decent player, who struggles at times to do the flashy things that some supporters see as the only thing that's merits praise. He rarely gives away possesion and works hard. He's not our best player. In fact he rarely starts (which doesn't help him build up consistency and confidence) but he is a decent squad player and I thought last night he showed some signs of what he is capable of with a wider range of passing (there was one curled ball up the wing for Lewis that was gorgeous) and more intent at running in behind to support the attack. Will Hallberg go on to become a Hibs legend ? I very much doubt it but while he wears a green shirt I won't be on here slagging him off and calling legitimate opposition a Pub League team.
We are Hibs supporters, or at least we are meant to be, why some posters take every opportunity to rip in to the latest fall guy is beyond me. Reasoned, articulate ctiticism is a key part of a football forum...but there has been precious little of that from many of the Hallberg bashers on here.
jacomo
08-10-2020, 12:41 PM
Yeah this is where I am with him. We've just signed another player in his position, he gets a start against lowly opposition and he produces another tepid performance. He's not gonna get a better chance to show Ross that he should be in his plans.
People are talking about him being a good squad player, yeah possibly, however that's not why he was signed.
I think he was signed to see if he could be the defensive midfielder that Hecky had obviously forgotten about. Clearly, he isn’t that, which is not his fault, and he does seem more useful than Josh Vela, albeit not by a huge distance.
Hibs are having a great season by our standards. We are playing some excellent football at times and have made some astute and exciting sigings. We have won far more matches than we have lost and we are looking every bit the top 4 side that we currently are. We make 8 changes to the team for a match against a lower league side in the League Cup and after a bright start, we stutter a bit before finally putting the game to bed and getting the win our overall play deserved.
For some reason that leads some posters to decide to vindictively slag off one of our own players (despite the fact that he was one of our better performers on the night) and fill the board with negative drivel. There have been a few posts that have analysed what they don't like about Hallberg - I can accept what they say, although I don't always agree, but those just ripping into him and saying "he offers nothing" are either lacking in any knoweldge about football, are hearts fans or just trolls.
Hallberg is a decent player, who struggles at times to do the flashy things that some supporters see as the only thing that's merits praise. He rarely gives away possesion and works hard. He's not our best player. In fact he rarely starts (which doesn't help him build up consistency and confidence) but he is a decent squad player and I thought last night he showed some signs of what he is capable of with a wider range of passing (there was one curled ball up the wing for Lewis that was gorgeous) and more intent at running in behind to support the attack. Will Hallberg go on to become a Hibs legend ? I very much doubt it but while he wears a green shirt I won't be on here slagging him off and calling legitimate opposition a Pub League team.
We are Hibs supporters, or at least we are meant to be, why some posters take every opportunity to rip in to the latest fall guy is beyond me. Reasoned, articulate ctiticism is a key part of a football forum...but there has been precious little of that from many of the Hallberg bashers on here.
Although I thought Hallberg was very poor last night, certainly not one of our better performers, I appreciate the content of your post & your balanced perspective. It's exactly because he is capable of an excellent pass, as per your post, that I find his reticence so frustrating. Mind you he did also produce the worst pass of the night, near the end, when it was so far out we couldn't tell who he was aiming for!
Keith_M
08-10-2020, 12:55 PM
I haven't read the whole thread & I very rarely criticise Hibs players but I genuinely thought Hallberg contributed greatly to our overall malaise last night. I find him incredibly frustrating, he made a great run & clever pass for our 2nd goal then he retreated into his shell. At one stage I think he made about 5-10 consecutive backward passes. That helped set the tone for our gradual decline. He seems to have a problem with his peripheral vision. He made some decent shows for the ball, received it in space with time to turn & drive forward but invariably he passed the ball back to the person who had just passed to him. Effectively he passed the buck & the play making role back to our centre backs. I don't know if he lacks confidence or ability or both but with the arrival of Magennis, who looked excellent, I doubt we'll see much of Hallberg from now on.
That's what I've noticed about him as well.
His passing is mostly to team mates a few yards away, without looking up to see if there's a better option. Also, as you say, he seems to pass a lot to the person that just gave him the ball, quite often immediately after after he's received it.
bigwheel
08-10-2020, 01:02 PM
Hibs are having a great season by our standards. We are playing some excellent football at times and have made some astute and exciting sigings. We have won far more matches than we have lost and we are looking every bit the top 4 side that we currently are. We make 8 changes to the team for a match against a lower league side in the League Cup and after a bright start, we stutter a bit before finally putting the game to bed and getting the win our overall play deserved.
For some reason that leads some posters to decide to vindictively slag off one of our own players (despite the fact that he was one of our better performers on the night) and fill the board with negative drivel. There have been a few posts that have analysed what they don't like about Hallberg - I can accept what they say, although I don't always agree, but those just ripping into him and saying "he offers nothing" are either lacking in any knoweldge about football, are hearts fans or just trolls.
Hallberg is a decent player, who struggles at times to do the flashy things that some supporters see as the only thing that's merits praise. He rarely gives away possesion and works hard. He's not our best player. In fact he rarely starts (which doesn't help him build up consistency and confidence) but he is a decent squad player and I thought last night he showed some signs of what he is capable of with a wider range of passing (there was one curled ball up the wing for Lewis that was gorgeous) and more intent at running in behind to support the attack. Will Hallberg go on to become a Hibs legend ? I very much doubt it but while he wears a green shirt I won't be on here slagging him off and calling legitimate opposition a Pub League team.
We are Hibs supporters, or at least we are meant to be, why some posters take every opportunity to rip in to the latest fall guy is beyond me. Reasoned, articulate ctiticism is a key part of a football forum...but there has been precious little of that from many of the Hallberg bashers on here.
Good balanced post ...people are too quick to criticise (or praise for that matter). It’s a love in or a bash fest. It must be hard for players to come in to a team that hasn’t played together and hit the ground running in their first start for a while.
Hibs are having a great season by our standards. We are playing some excellent football at times and have made some astute and exciting sigings. We have won far more matches than we have lost and we are looking every bit the top 4 side that we currently are. We make 8 changes to the team for a match against a lower league side in the League Cup and after a bright start, we stutter a bit before finally putting the game to bed and getting the win our overall play deserved.
For some reason that leads some posters to decide to vindictively slag off one of our own players (despite the fact that he was one of our better performers on the night) and fill the board with negative drivel. There have been a few posts that have analysed what they don't like about Hallberg - I can accept what they say, although I don't always agree, but those just ripping into him and saying "he offers nothing" are either lacking in any knoweldge about football, are hearts fans or just trolls.
Hallberg is a decent player, who struggles at times to do the flashy things that some supporters see as the only thing that's merits praise. He rarely gives away possesion and works hard. He's not our best player. In fact he rarely starts (which doesn't help him build up consistency and confidence) but he is a decent squad player and I thought last night he showed some signs of what he is capable of with a wider range of passing (there was one curled ball up the wing for Lewis that was gorgeous) and more intent at running in behind to support the attack. Will Hallberg go on to become a Hibs legend ? I very much doubt it but while he wears a green shirt I won't be on here slagging him off and calling legitimate opposition a Pub League team.
We are Hibs supporters, or at least we are meant to be, why some posters take every opportunity to rip in to the latest fall guy is beyond me. Reasoned, articulate ctiticism is a key part of a football forum...but there has been precious little of that from many of the Hallberg bashers on here.
I agree. Regardless of how Hibs are doing some supporters need to always single out a fall guy or two for criticism. Pathetic really.
For the record I don't think the team performed well last night but Hallberg was by no means the worst player on the park.
basehibby
08-10-2020, 01:43 PM
I’m being totally genuine when I ask, what does he actually do/bring to the team?
You must be watching with your eyes shut.
When first brought in he added some much needed steel to the midfield (despite not being a defensive midfielder per sey). In addition to that he has shown plenty of energy and workrate, has rarely wasted a pass, has regularly got himself into goal scoring positions (from which he's scored one and missed a couple) and has demonstrated good capability from dead ball situations.
If you haven't noticed any of the above I am genuinely mystified - what games have you actually been watching???
AugustaHibs
08-10-2020, 02:09 PM
You must be watching with your eyes shut.
When first brought in he added some much needed steel to the midfield (despite not being a defensive midfielder per sey). In addition to that he has shown plenty of energy and workrate, has rarely wasted a pass, has regularly got himself into goal scoring positions (from which he's scored one and missed a couple) and has demonstrated good capability from dead ball situations.
If you haven't noticed any of the above I am genuinely mystified - what games have you actually been watching???
It’s not me that’s watching with their eyes shut if you believe he brings ‘steel’ to the side.
The Modfather
08-10-2020, 02:11 PM
You must be watching with your eyes shut.
When first brought in he added some much needed steel to the midfield (despite not being a defensive midfielder per sey). In addition to that he has shown plenty of energy and workrate, has rarely wasted a pass, has regularly got himself into goal scoring positions (from which he's scored one and missed a couple) and has demonstrated good capability from dead ball situations.
If you haven't noticed any of the above I am genuinely mystified - what games have you actually been watching???
I think that’s at the generous end of the scale in this debate. Steel, energy, workrate, good passing, gets into goal scoring positions and good at set pieces. We should build the team around him :greengrin
B.H.F.C
08-10-2020, 02:23 PM
You must be watching with your eyes shut.
When first brought in he added some much needed steel to the midfield (despite not being a defensive midfielder per sey). In addition to that he has shown plenty of energy and workrate, has rarely wasted a pass, has regularly got himself into goal scoring positions (from which he's scored one and missed a couple) and has demonstrated good capability from dead ball situations.
If you haven't noticed any of the above I am genuinely mystified - what games have you actually been watching???
Sounds like the all round midfielder we’ve been looking for.
Just_Jimmy
08-10-2020, 04:29 PM
I can't remember anyone saying we needed 11 hallbergs. He looked fine against a pub team tonight but against Aberdeen he was hopeless. Says it all.he was lauded on here when he first signed and played a couple of games.
they're not a pub team. you sound like a Jambo with that attitude. you beat the team in front of you by earning that right and we won.
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supermcginn
08-10-2020, 05:20 PM
he was lauded on here when he first signed and played a couple of games.
they're not a pub team. you sound like a Jambo with that attitude. you beat the team in front of you by earning that right and we won.
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They are a pub team I'm afraid. He isn't good enough.
hibee-boys
08-10-2020, 05:34 PM
Hallberg in the same mould as Slivka, couldn't see what he brought to the team either.
Inconsequential
08-10-2020, 06:26 PM
They are a pub team I'm afraid. He isn't good enough. Brora Rangers are not a pub team. They are the current champions of the Highland League. This is fact. Not defending Halberg or the performance of Hibs however.
Just_Jimmy
09-10-2020, 08:28 AM
They are a pub team I'm afraid. He isn't good enough.stating your opinion as a fact is a trend that's becoming more regular on this site. it leads to a lack of genuine debate and it's frankly nonsense. especially when it's not an opinion, just wrong.
as pointed out, the champions of the highland league are not a pub team and do not play in a pub league.
your opinion on whether you think hallberg is good enough or not a different matter. however, he was widely regarded as a good signing not long after he signed. he's a decent enough squad player inside our budget and conditions at this time. neither Jack Ross or me would have him in the first 11 if everyone was available, but it doesn't mean he can't do a job in the right circumstances.
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jacomo
09-10-2020, 08:35 AM
Brora Rangers are not a pub team. They are the current champions of the Highland League. This is fact. Not defending Halberg or the performance of Hibs however.
Sure but the Highland League isn’t up to much then. Brora were very limited. In the first half we could take the ball off them at will. I really don’t think Barnes did well for their free kick at all.
bigwheel
09-10-2020, 08:41 AM
Sure but the Highland League isn’t up to much then. Brora were very limited. In the first half we could take the ball off them at will. I really don’t think Barnes did well for their free kick at all.
They are a good semi pro team - could well be in the league now had the pandemic not stopped them. It must be hard for them. Remember they’ve not had any competitive games yet . That was their first . I’d imagine in 2-3 months they will be much more at it ..the comments such as “pub team” (realise it wasn’t you) come over just like emotive shouts..don’t add anything to the discussion in my view ...
superfurryhibby
09-10-2020, 10:21 AM
stating your opinion as a fact is a trend that's becoming more regular on this site. it leads to a lack of genuine debate and it's frankly nonsense. especially when it's not an opinion, just wrong.
as pointed out, the champions of the highland league are not a pub team and do not play in a pub league.
your opinion on whether you think hallberg is good enough or not a different matter. however, he was widely regarded as a good signing not long after he signed. he's a decent enough squad player inside our budget and conditions at this time. neither Jack Ross or me would have him in the first 11 if everyone was available, but it doesn't mean he can't do a job in the right circumstances.
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Seconding the sentiment on this post. One man's fact is another man's fiction.
Not seeing many people saying they love Hallberg, he been disappointing for me overall but he will be called upon no doubt as the season unfolds. Here's hoping Ross finds a way to use him to best effect.
Since452
09-10-2020, 10:46 AM
Sure but the Highland League isn’t up to much then. Brora were very limited. In the first half we could take the ball off them at will. I really don’t think Barnes did well for their free kick at all.
Not much if anything between the likes of Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts to league two. If anything they're probably better than most of the league two clubs. Kelty only lost 2-1 to St Johnstone for example. Know they're lowland league but same point.
AugustaHibs
09-10-2020, 10:58 AM
Not much if anything between the likes of Brora Rangers and Kelty Hearts to league two. If anything they're probably better than most of the league two clubs. Kelty only lost 2-1 to St Johnstone for example. Know they're lowland league but same point.
Kelty would hammer Brora. Spartans beat Brora last year and are miles off kelty
Andy74
09-10-2020, 11:15 AM
Kelty would hammer Brora. Spartans beat Brora last year and are miles off kelty
We just played Brora and didn’t really hammer them, but Kelty certainly would?
JimBHibees
09-10-2020, 11:16 AM
Kelty would hammer Brora. Spartans beat Brora last year and are miles off kelty
Brora drew away with Morton in Scottish cup last season so capable of competing at decent level.
Beefster
09-10-2020, 12:05 PM
Kelty would hammer Brora. Spartans beat Brora last year and are miles off kelty
We occasionally beat Celtc and they beat Barcelona at some point in the last decade, ergo we'd beat Barcelona.
matty_f
09-10-2020, 12:07 PM
We just played Brora and didn’t really hammer them, but Kelty certainly would?
:greengrin
I love these ones - St Johnstone beat Kelty, we beat St Johnstone, so by extension would beat Kelty by more than St Johnstone would but Kelty would beat Brora more than we did?
eastmainsmsh
09-10-2020, 12:07 PM
Halllberg came with a decent pedigree played in Italy and caps for Sweden plays well enough good player to have not really had a look in this season opinions differ tho
nonshinyfinish
09-10-2020, 12:44 PM
:greengrin
I love these ones - St Johnstone beat Kelty, we beat St Johnstone, so by extension would beat Kelty by more than St Johnstone would but Kelty would beat Brora more than we did?
If you take this approach to its natural conclusion and treat international football like boxing – by beating the world champion you become the world champion – then Scotland are the most successful nation of all time: https://www.ufwc.co.uk/
blackpoolhibs
10-10-2020, 12:14 PM
I can see why folk like him today, he's really running that midfield against a plucky Cove like latapy used to.
Heisenberg
10-10-2020, 12:15 PM
Him, Mallan, McGinn all so far of it. Thankfully we shouldn’t need to play all of them at once that frequently but they aren’t even competing well against a league one side here.
Gloucester Hibs
10-10-2020, 12:24 PM
The invisible man
Robbo6-2
10-10-2020, 12:28 PM
Hes worse than Vela
supermcginn
10-10-2020, 12:32 PM
Dreadful. Get him off.
blackpoolhibs
10-10-2020, 12:34 PM
Maybe he's a right back? 🐌
sleeping giant
10-10-2020, 12:37 PM
Here we go
sleeping giant
10-10-2020, 12:37 PM
Gullan scores
hibee_girl
10-10-2020, 12:48 PM
Another assist from Hallberg :greengrin
Andy74
10-10-2020, 12:48 PM
Single handedly dragging us through this cup competition with his assists. 😂
MWHIBBIES
10-10-2020, 12:48 PM
2 assists in 2 games now
Greenio
10-10-2020, 01:11 PM
Hibs.net player of the season
The 90+2
10-10-2020, 01:21 PM
2 assists in 2 games now
His level 👌
Vault Boy
10-10-2020, 01:22 PM
His level 👌
Just a ridiculous comment. Full Swedish international.
The 90+2
10-10-2020, 01:23 PM
Just a ridiculous comment. Full swedish international.
🤣🤣
His level 👌
I thought you were deleting your account?
MagicSwirlingShip
10-10-2020, 01:33 PM
His level 👌
Higher than yours has ever been.
Support the team
easty
10-10-2020, 01:39 PM
Anyone who genuinely thinks Hallberg is an asset based on a couple of games against teams who we should be destroying, is deluding themselves.
He’s been posted anonymous in the majority of the games at our level, that’s where he should be judged on whether he’s good enough for Hibs.
He’s no the first, and he’ll no be the last, to get capped for his country despite no being up to much.
MagicSwirlingShip
10-10-2020, 01:41 PM
Anyone who genuinely thinks Hallberg is an asset based on a couple of games against teams who we should be destroying, is deluding themselves.
He’s been posted anonymous in the majority of the games at our level, that’s where he should be judged on whether he’s good enough for Hibs.
He’s no the first, and he’ll no be the last, to get capped for his country despite no being up to much.
He’s a squad player, who done a service to us today by putting a ball into Nisbet for the winning goal and filling in where first selection picks aren’t available.
That’s an asset to me. Call me deluded if ya like.
H18 SFR
10-10-2020, 01:46 PM
Hallberg was my man of the match today.
CapitalGreen
10-10-2020, 01:46 PM
Anyone who genuinely thinks Hallberg is an asset based on a couple of games against teams who we should be destroying, is deluding themselves.
He’s been posted anonymous in the majority of the games at our level, that’s where he should be judged on whether he’s good enough for Hibs.
He’s no the first, and he’ll no be the last, to get capped for his country despite no being up to much.
The people who are praising his recent contributions were generally happy with him before the last 2 games so I don’t imagine they are basing their opinion solely on a couple of games against teams who we should be destroying.
bigwheel
10-10-2020, 01:50 PM
Anyone who genuinely thinks Hallberg is an asset based on a couple of games against teams who we should be destroying, is deluding themselves.
He’s been posted anonymous in the majority of the games at our level, that’s where he should be judged on whether he’s good enough for Hibs.
He’s no the first, and he’ll no be the last, to get capped for his country despite no being up to much.
Other than these games he’s hardly had any minutes in recent months ...15 mins here or there in most of his appearances...not anything you can judge a player on ...
And why you feel a deeply weakened team should destroy a decent Cove team on their home plastic pitch , begs a few questions too
Tully
10-10-2020, 02:03 PM
Poor 1 st half slightly better 2nd, some players looked well of pace but that was coves cup final, we won it wasn't great, move onto forfar win the game be near enough qualified, with so many missing and players getting game time is a massive plus, yes we would love to have like for like with quality in squad but we've no got the financial punch other teams have, so we go with what our finances dictate
blackpoolhibs
10-10-2020, 02:18 PM
He is very very average, back up player who weakens the team when picked to start a game. Although to be fair, most of that lot today are exactly the same.
The 90+2
10-10-2020, 02:23 PM
I thought you were deleting your account?
I thought we should be talking about Hallberg?
The 90+2
10-10-2020, 02:24 PM
Higher than yours has ever been.
Support the team
That’s the worst argument ever 🤣.
“Aye he’s better than you mate” 🤣🤣
The 90+2
10-10-2020, 02:25 PM
The people who are praising his recent contributions were generally happy with him before the last 2 games so I don’t imagine they are basing their opinion solely on a couple of games against teams who we should be destroying.
This is true. Probably one of our highest earners too. Because he’s played for Sweden.
MagicSwirlingShip
10-10-2020, 02:37 PM
That’s the worst argument ever 🤣.
“Aye he’s better than you mate” 🤣🤣
The argument for Hallberg as a decent squad player has been mentioned over and over the past few days, and is seemingly impossible for you to take in.
Enjoy your Saturday & weekend!
I thought we should be talking about Hallberg?
Oh and you've been doing that a lot.
Brightside
10-10-2020, 03:32 PM
This is true. Probably one of our highest earners too. Because he’s played for Sweden.
You really are coming out with some right pish now.
Hibiza
10-10-2020, 04:21 PM
A lot of vision remarks re Hallberg tonight . I just don't see him . Perhaps Jack's got an eye for him.
I thought he was poor again today. I'm not sure he touched a ball in the 1st 20 minutes then he made a decent run down the left. I thought he did better in the 2nd half though he's definitely not a defender. He'll be credited with an assist though Nisbet turned an average ball into a superb goal with his great flick. I'm really not sure what MH brings to the team but hopefully his confidence will grow through getting these games.
PatHead
10-10-2020, 04:33 PM
I want him to do well but he just isn't doing it for me. With his pedigree I really had high hopes but apart from the odd flash in a game he doesn't get involved enough.
Reminds me of Brian Hamilton and splits the support as much.
jeffers
10-10-2020, 04:40 PM
Didn’t think he was great, didn’t think he was really poor either. Just a typical performance. Wright on the other hand, looked like he forgot he’d left St Johnstone the amount of times he passed it straight to a player in blue.
easty
10-10-2020, 05:56 PM
Other than these games he’s hardly had any minutes in recent months ...15 mins here or there in most of his appearances...not anything you can judge a player on ...
And why you feel a deeply weakened team should destroy a decent Cove team on their home plastic pitch , begs a few questions too
He’s had plenty minutes on which to form an opinion on him. That opinion doesn’t change based on games against far lesser opponents than we are used to.
Look, fair play to Cove for giving us a hard game, but I dont think it’s being disrespectful to think we should destroy them. The players we had playing today should be able to control a game against that level of player. We didn’t impose ourselves at all,
superfurryhibby
10-10-2020, 06:01 PM
You really are coming out with some right pish now.
An endless stream of pish so it seems. Delete my account, another empty statement, lol
For those saying defending Hallberg seems to be a regular theme on this thread. If those people actually read what others are saying they would realise there are very few, if any saying he’s brilliant, should be starting every week. People know he isn’t. They just aren't having the full golden shower, that’s all.
FWIW, I would have been happy to see him go and the money used on another option. However, that ain’t happening.
Debate is good, opinions are valid, but as has been repeatedly pointed out, just saying* he’s pish, he cannae pass, he’s one of our hghest earners (making things up is quite desperate really) he cannae run etc, etc. Nah, that’s not a discussion.
SMAXXA
10-10-2020, 06:06 PM
I think he gets a lot of unfair criticism. Granted he’s not been great at times but no as bad as some make him out to be. If we are talking about players being bad I’d say Drey Wright should have a thread of his own he’s been honking last 2 games and not done much other than rangers goal since joining imo
BILLYHIBS
10-10-2020, 06:12 PM
Noticed in the second half when he went to right back he went to play two balls down the line and knocked them both straight out of play
My Granny could do that and she’s been deid for 30 years
Apart from that I don’t have a problem with the guy
PatHead
10-10-2020, 07:18 PM
I think he gets a lot of unfair criticism. Granted he’s not been great at times but no as bad as some make him out to be. If we are talking about players being bad I’d say Drey Wright should have a thread of his own he’s been honking last 2 games and not done much other than rangers goal since joining imo
Noticed an article saying he was carrying an injury and was a major doubt for today.
Since90+2
10-10-2020, 07:27 PM
I think he's decent enough. He's fairly comfortable on the ball and he tends to be in a position to always receive a pass. His delivery can be good too.
He's not particularly mobile and doesn't offer much in terms of drive.
Overall I think Hallberg is good squad player for us and would probably be a starter for most teams in the league.
LaMotta
10-10-2020, 09:12 PM
I think he's decent enough. He's fairly comfortable on the ball and he tends to be in a position to always receive a pass. His delivery can be good too.
He's not particularly mobile and doesn't offer much in terms of drive.
Overall I think Hallberg is good squad player for us and would probably be a starter for most teams in the league.
This is a good assessment of him:agree:
His lack of drive and mobility is the thing that will stop him being a star at Easter Road.
houstonhibbee
10-10-2020, 09:20 PM
This is a good assessment of him:agree:
His lack of drive and mobility is the thing that will stop him being a star at Easter Road.
Should we get him a volvo?
CMurdoch
10-10-2020, 09:23 PM
This is a good assessment of him:agree:
His lack of drive and mobility is the thing that will stop him being a star at Easter Road.
He was a good right back in the second half today. The lack of drive is his issue which I am glad to see Magennis doesn't suffer from.
MrRobot
10-10-2020, 10:41 PM
I think he gets a lot of unfair criticism. Granted he’s not been great at times but no as bad as some make him out to be. If we are talking about players being bad I’d say Drey Wright should have a thread of his own he’s been honking last 2 games and not done much other than rangers goal since joining imo
:agree:
I'm more worried about Wright what does he bring to our team????
Jr must have seen something but lacking so far. Poor signing to date.
SMAXXA
11-10-2020, 12:44 AM
I'm more worried about Wright what does he bring to our team????
Jr must have seen something but lacking so far. Poor signing to date.
Thing is for me ya fans tend to be too quick to write players off and minds are made up early doors and some don’t want to change their view. We seen it with Doidge and Newell but they have managers to change people’s views through performances over time. I wouldn’t write Drey off yet he’s certainly for good attributes I feel he just needs a bit more Boyle about him and get the ball and have a go at a full back. Even for Boyle it doesn’t come off a lot of the time but he has the confidence to do it, that I feel may well come with Drey. Still early doors and in all honesty I’ve not seen any player at Hibs this season I’d want rid of for being *****, aye some havnt been food form wise but they are also players we would expect to be decent back up and would likely do a lot better coming into our strongest side on their own than a side making 7/8 changes at once.
JimBHibees
11-10-2020, 07:46 AM
I'm more worried about Wright what does he bring to our team????
Jr must have seen something but lacking so far. Poor signing to date.
Think he has been pretty decent in some of the games though was very poor in last two though appears he was carrying an injury. Still a valuable member of the squad imo.
hibee-boys
11-10-2020, 08:19 AM
The fact that he hasn't been able to stand out against Brora and Cove says it all. Can't say he does anything terribly bad, he just very little, if anything, to influence games. And please, 2 assists in 2 games, finding a hibs player with a basic pass/cross ball hardly constitutes a man of the match performance. Capable enough sub to come on when we've won a game, giving our first starters a break, would never see him as a game changer.
Northernhibee
11-10-2020, 09:37 AM
The fact that he hasn't been able to stand out against Brora and Cove says it all. Can't say he does anything terribly bad, he just very little, if anything, to influence games. And please, 2 assists in 2 games, finding a hibs player with a basic pass/cross ball hardly constitutes a man of the match performance. Capable enough sub to come on when we've won a game, giving our first starters a break, would never see him as a game changer.
He’s had an assist in both of those games.
Brightside
11-10-2020, 10:02 AM
He’s had an assist in both of those games.
😂
EVENTUALLY
11-10-2020, 10:15 AM
This is a good assessment of him:agree:
His lack of drive and mobility is the thing that will stop him being a star at Easter Road.
He has drive and mobility as displayed in setting up Mallan's 2nd goal against Brora. He has more often than not been played as a deep sitting midfielder which to my mind is not making the most of his legs AND what really surprises me is he absolutely cannot tackle or do it effectively without conceding fouls. He is difficult to accommodate in a midfield formation were his team mates have collective attributes which are better than his. There is a player in Hallberg but I'm not sure we will ever see it at Easter Road.
FilipinoHibs
11-10-2020, 10:20 AM
I'm more worried about Wright what does he bring to our team????
Jr must have seen something but lacking so far. Poor signing to date.
Odd flashes but does not take people on enough and often miss passes. Looks to lack confidence but has been carrying an injury for most of the season.
basehibby
11-10-2020, 11:36 AM
Honest question for folk who rate him. Is he better than slivka?
Yes - undoubtably.
More consistent, better at breaking up play, better passer of the ball, more intelligent player.
basehibby
11-10-2020, 11:41 AM
Why start by slagging someone you don’t agree with?
Can you advise what he brings to the team perhaps?
If you are going to make a point of posting such steaming drivel with such determined consistency then of course people are going to get stuck into you for the walloper you are.
hibee-boys
11-10-2020, 11:45 AM
He’s had an assist in both of those games.
Don't think you read my post.
The 90+2
11-10-2020, 11:45 AM
If you are going to make a point of posting such steaming drivel with such determined consistency then of course people are going to get stuck into you for the walloper you are.
The irony after the ***** you've just posted above :greengrin
Northernhibee
11-10-2020, 11:48 AM
Don't think you read my post.
I do. You think he’s not able to be a game changer, especially in the two games you quoted where he got an assist and changed the game.
Do you write the prime ministers speeches by chance?
The 90+2
11-10-2020, 11:48 AM
Yes - undoubtably. - *****
More consistent - *****, when and where about?
better at breaking up play - against who? People make excuses saying he's not a defensive midfielder. He isn't I agree.
better passer of the ball - again, *****. he made Gogic look like Pirlo against Hamilton
more intelligent player.
And you accuse me of talking drivel.
Slivka brought and done a lot more in his Hibs career than Hallberg will ever. Bookmark it.
MagicSwirlingShip
11-10-2020, 11:53 AM
And you accuse me of talking drivel.
Slivka brought and done a lot more in his Hibs career than Hallberg will ever. Bookmark it.
Where does Derek Townsley fit into all of this
The Modfather
11-10-2020, 11:59 AM
Wonder how long this thread will last before it’s closed. Which is a shame as there is some actual debate hidden away in what appears to be a number of posters, on both sides, who are entrenched and just trying to get one over each other now.
basehibby
11-10-2020, 12:01 PM
The irony after the ***** you've just posted above :greengrin
Don't flatter yourself - irony to you is what you hit a golfey balley with on the fairey way. Drivel is what you spout and on this thread you have excelled yourself.
The 90+2
11-10-2020, 12:03 PM
Where does Derek Townsley fit into all of this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2226667.stm
The 90+2
11-10-2020, 12:04 PM
Don't flatter yourself - irony to you is what you hit a golfey balley with on the fairey way. Drivel is what you spout and on this thread you have excelled yourself.
http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2303357/original/?width=578&version=2303357
Have a nice day.
hibee-boys
11-10-2020, 12:05 PM
I do. You think he’s not able to be a game changer, especially in the two games you quoted where he got an assist and changed the game.
Do you write the prime ministers speeches by chance?
Ok, he crossed the ball into the box. Give the guy a 4 year deal.
Since90+2
11-10-2020, 12:40 PM
I'd rate Hallberg as a better player than Slivka. There's probably not all that much in it but of the two I'd rather have Hallberg.
bigwheel
11-10-2020, 12:41 PM
He’s had plenty minutes on which to form an opinion on him. That opinion doesn’t change based on games against far lesser opponents than we are used to.
Look, fair play to Cove for giving us a hard game, but I dont think it’s being disrespectful to think we should destroy them. The players we had playing today should be able to control a game against that level of player. We didn’t impose ourselves at all,
Fair enough to have a view on Hallberg, he’s certainly not set the heather alight ...
But it’s the extreme opinion that seems off...you seem to completely ignore how difficult it is to make an impact when you just get occasional minutes.
You also seemingly ignore the factors of a severely depleted side, on an awkward plastic pitch , against a hardy opposition..I think it’s your expectation that we should be pumping them that’s a bit wayward tbh...I never feel it’s particularly fair to judge a player in a game like that - simply getting away with a win can be good enough in those conditions ...
Brightside
11-10-2020, 12:59 PM
http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2303357/original/?width=578&version=2303357
Have a nice day.
There is actually nothing ironic about that song. Oh the irony.
Brightside
11-10-2020, 01:02 PM
Wonder how long this thread will last before it’s closed. Which is a shame as there is some actual debate hidden away in what appears to be a number of posters, on both sides, who are entrenched and just trying to get one over each other now.
So we have some people saying he’s pish, garbage, can’t pass, can’t defend, doesn’t bring anything to games. And we have some people saying he’s a good squad player that can do a job if required. Only one side is entrenched. Only one side is extreme. As they are with many of their thoughts when similar subjects come up.
Prof. Shaggy
11-10-2020, 01:08 PM
There is actually nothing ironic about that song. Oh the irony.
Which is what makes it ironic, no?
:confused::confused::confused:
The Count
11-10-2020, 01:18 PM
[He who shouts the loudest or insists on the last word think they win the arguement !!!! Time to move on lads. We are winning games enjoy.
SHODAN
11-10-2020, 01:24 PM
Arguing over whether a player is good enough on a three game winning run. I hope these days last forever.
The Modfather
11-10-2020, 01:39 PM
So we have some people saying he’s pish, garbage, can’t pass, can’t defend, doesn’t bring anything to games. And we have some people saying he’s a good squad player that can do a job if required. Only one side is entrenched. Only one side is extreme. As they are with many of their thoughts when similar subjects come up.
Hallberg has also been described as“ When first brought in he added some much needed steel to the midfield (despite not being a defensive midfielder per sey). In addition to that he has shown plenty of energy and workrate, has rarely wasted a pass, has regularly got himself into goal scoring positions (from which he's scored one and missed a couple) and has demonstrated good capability from dead ball situations.”
As well as, in relation to Slivka. “ More consistent, better at breaking up play, better passer of the ball, more intelligent player“.
That’s equally as removed from reality and over the top as the over the top negativity. There’s an interesting debate to be had about Hallberg, but I don’t think we’ll see much of it on this thread the way it has gone.
ahibby
11-10-2020, 01:59 PM
Scores and assists twice once in each of last two games. Flexible in positioning and good work rate. He will do for me.
Andy74
11-10-2020, 02:02 PM
Hallberg has also been described as“ When first brought in he added some much needed steel to the midfield (despite not being a defensive midfielder per sey). In addition to that he has shown plenty of energy and workrate, has rarely wasted a pass, has regularly got himself into goal scoring positions (from which he's scored one and missed a couple) and has demonstrated good capability from dead ball situations.”
As well as, in relation to Slivka. “ More consistent, better at breaking up play, better passer of the ball, more intelligent player“.
That’s equally as removed from reality and over the top as the over the top negativity. There’s an interesting debate to be had about Hallberg, but I don’t think we’ll see much of it on this thread the way it has gone.
Behave. Those things are arguable to some degree but pretty balanced compared to statements like can't pass, can't run, does nothing which are not based at all in reality.
hibee-boys
11-10-2020, 02:05 PM
So we have some people saying he’s pish, garbage, can’t pass, can’t defend, doesn’t bring anything to games. And we have some people saying he’s a good squad player that can do a job if required. Only one side is entrenched. Only one side is extreme. As they are with many of their thoughts when similar subjects come up.
That's a bit dramatic. I can't recall anyone saying he's pish/garbage, consenus from people who've not commented favourably seems to be that he does the basics but, on average, not much else. Given his eagerness to bring in CM's I would suspect Jack Ross is of the same opinion.
Eyrie
11-10-2020, 02:47 PM
Looking at the back ups over the last two games
Barnes, Mallan, McGinn, Hallberg and Wright have failed to make a case for more regular involvement, whilst Gray and McGregor played at the level I'd expect from two veterans lacking match fitness. Only Magennis and Gullan have done enough.
That's disappointing because the comparative standard of opposition meant there was an opportunity for those players to put pressure on the usual starters and give Ross an opportunity to rotate to keep players fresh.
B.H.F.C
11-10-2020, 03:00 PM
Looking at the back ups over the last two games
Barnes, Mallan, McGinn, Hallberg and Wright have failed to make a case for more regular involvement, whilst Gray and McGregor played at the level I'd expect from two veterans lacking match fitness. Only Magennis and Gullan have done enough.
That's disappointing because the comparative standard of opposition meant there was an opportunity for those players to put pressure on the usual starters and give Ross an opportunity to rotate to keep players fresh.
Didn’t think Barnes did much wrong yesterday in fairness. Couple of good saves, particularly the one to stop them going 2-0. I did think he was dodgy for the goal against Brora though.
Gullan is definitely the one who has come out of the two games best. I don’t think Wright could have done any worse than he did.
Overall, I don’t think we learned too much we didn’t know. Disappointed that some of the players who have waited for a long time for a chance didn’t show a better attitude in the games to be honest.
hibee-boys
11-10-2020, 03:11 PM
Looking at the back ups over the last two games
Barnes, Mallan, McGinn, Hallberg and Wright have failed to make a case for more regular involvement, whilst Gray and McGregor played at the level I'd expect from two veterans lacking match fitness. Only Magennis and Gullan have done enough.
That's disappointing because the comparative standard of opposition meant there was an opportunity for those players to put pressure on the usual starters and give Ross an opportunity to rotate to keep players fresh.
Fair summary. Good couple of finishes by Mallan against Brora but would have expected him to dominate more in open play against lower league teams......and he just didn't.
Andy74
13-10-2020, 11:45 AM
So Jack Ross reckons he’s a good player to have in the squad due to his attributes, versatility and attitude. Seems about right to me.
Souter96Mac
13-10-2020, 11:55 AM
So Jack Ross reckons he’s a good player to have in the squad due to his attributes, versatility and attitude. Seems about right to me.
I really want to like Hallberg and see him kick on. He seems like he should have the ability to be a great player, but spends a lot of games just being anonymous. Paul McGinn has been great at RB, but it'll be interesting to see how Hallberg gets on, if he does start there tonight.
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