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HendoDelivered
02-10-2020, 10:02 PM
Left ER tonight with his arm in a sling. I really hope it isnt serious and he is back ASAP. Influential player for us atm.

B.H.F.C
02-10-2020, 10:03 PM
Ross didn’t seem to think it was anything serious.

It was also self inflicted with the big daft dive!

RoYO!
02-10-2020, 10:06 PM
Ross didn’t seem to think it was anything serious.

It was also self inflicted with the big daft dive!

Perfectly entitled to fall over there I reckon! Defender dangled a leg. Could have been given.

B.H.F.C
02-10-2020, 10:08 PM
Perfectly entitled to fall over there I reckon! Defender dangled a leg. Could have been given.

Aye, but he didn’t just fall over. I’m no even sure how to describe what he did!

hibbysam
02-10-2020, 10:18 PM
Aye, but he didn’t just fall over. I’m no even sure how to describe what he did!

He was turning when his leg was caught. It’s not always ‘natural’ to just fall to the ground. It was a stonewall penalty.

SaulGoodman
02-10-2020, 10:18 PM
Aye, but he didn’t just fall over. I’m no even sure how to describe what he did!

Peak Ric Flair by the looks of things.

B.H.F.C
02-10-2020, 10:20 PM
He was turning when his leg was caught. It’s not always ‘natural’ to just fall to the ground. It was a stonewall penalty.

The way he went down, definitely wasn’t natural. We can agree on that.

MartinfaePorty
02-10-2020, 10:21 PM
But the Sportscene commentator said he went down 'theatrically', so surely he's fine :bitchy:

Eyrie
02-10-2020, 10:21 PM
Peak Ric Flair by the looks of things.

I think Bruce Lee would have been proud of the way Newell managed to stick his leg out to catch the defender, but less impressed by the fall afterwards.

I'd have been raging if that had been given against us.

hibbysam
02-10-2020, 10:24 PM
The way he went down, definitely wasn’t natural. We can agree on that.

That depends on what you class as natural. Unless your the player himself then you’ve no idea, and neither do I. However Ive been tripped and caught enough times to know it doesn’t always look natural but you can’t fall any other way. To me he was turning and trying to ride a tackle that ended up catching him and sent him sprawling. To say it was self inflicted is just daft.

Pretty Boy
02-10-2020, 10:24 PM
Crap dive. An otherwise outstanding 45 minutes from him. Hopefully he's all good to go after a couple of weeks break.

B.H.F.C
02-10-2020, 10:30 PM
That depends on what you class as natural. Unless your the player himself then you’ve no idea, and neither do I. However Ive been tripped and caught enough times to know it doesn’t always look natural but you can’t fall any other way. To me he was turning and trying to ride a tackle that ended up catching him and sent him sprawling. To say it was self inflicted is just daft.

He went up before he went down. He tried to buy a penalty with a big daft dive. So from that point of view, I don’t think self inflicted is daft .

I hope he’s all right by the way, because I thought he was running the game first half. Murphy, Boyle and Nisbet were all linking but he was getting the ball to them in the first place.

hibbysam
02-10-2020, 10:38 PM
He went up before he went down. He tried to buy a penalty with a big daft dive. So from that point of view, I don’t think self inflicted is daft .

I hope he’s all right by the way, because I thought he was running the game first half. Murphy, Boyle and Nisbet were all linking but he was getting the ball to them in the first place.

He goes up because his leg is tangled with the Hamilton player, you then have to go up and over the leg, you can’t fall straight down the way. It wasn’t self inflicted, he was fouled, had the Hamilton player not fouled him then he doesn’t fall down.

B.H.F.C
02-10-2020, 10:41 PM
He goes up because his leg is tangled with the Hamilton player, you then have to go up and over the leg, you can’t fall straight down the way. It wasn’t self inflicted, he was fouled, had the Hamilton player not fouled him then he doesn’t fall down.

I think you’re in the minority that think he was fouled. Even If there was contact, it doesn’t make you hit the deck in that manner. No great reaction from the players, commentators or many others as far as I can see.

Glory Lurker
02-10-2020, 10:42 PM
For once the international break has come at a good time. He makes us tick. Hopefully a fortnight will see him alright.

matty_f
02-10-2020, 10:56 PM
Should have been a penalty.

hibbysam
02-10-2020, 11:01 PM
I think you’re in the minority that think he was fouled. Even If there was contact, it doesn’t make you hit the deck in that manner. No great reaction from the players, commentators or many others as far as I can see.

It clearly did make him hit the deck in that manner. Player planted leg and tripped attacker, penalty. Exactly the same as Porteous on their attacker.

You are calling him a diver, fair enough, I’m not.

Scouse Hibee
02-10-2020, 11:06 PM
He might have got a penalty had he not over emphasised with that daft dive.

B.H.F.C
02-10-2020, 11:12 PM
It clearly did make him hit the deck in that manner. Player planted leg and tripped attacker, penalty. Exactly the same as Porteous on their attacker.

You are calling him a diver, fair enough, I’m not.

No the same. The Hamilton was tripped up running at pace. Newell did a big dramatic dive, not running at pace.

There might have been some contact. Didn’t merit the ‘fall’.

You honestly think he went down naturally?

The 90+2
02-10-2020, 11:13 PM
He might have got a penalty had he not over emphasised with that daft dive.

It was still a foul regardless. He could have done a double roll after going down and a pen is a pen.

Scouse Hibee
02-10-2020, 11:19 PM
It was still a foul regardless. He could have done a double roll after going down and a pen is a pen.

Which is why I said he might have got a penalty had he not done the daft dive.

mentalhibee
02-10-2020, 11:19 PM
Been great this season but still seems to get it tight from a lot of hibs fans. Hope he’s back fit for the next game👍🏻

B.H.F.C
02-10-2020, 11:23 PM
Been great this season but still seems to get it tight from a lot of hibs fans. Hope he’s back fit for the next game👍🏻

I think he’s got better as the season went on.

St Mirren away was his best game. First half tonight was similar . Rangers he competed well. Early games he was hot and cold at best. We were poorer without him second half tonight.

The 90+2
02-10-2020, 11:24 PM
Which is why I said he might have got a penalty had he not done the daft dive.

That’s the ref’s mistake for not taking out the fall from consideration. He was fouled in the box irrespective of the daft dive.

Scouse Hibee
02-10-2020, 11:29 PM
That’s the ref’s mistake for not taking out the fall from consideration. He was fouled in the box irrespective of the daft dive.

Yes and he never got a penalty, which could have been as a result of the daft dive, if there was the slightest doubt from the ref. It’s not rocket science, we’ve all seen the results of theatrical dives going against a player even if we think he was clearly fouled. Not sure why you need to be so argumentative about it, you must have seen it happen before, I have.

CMurdoch
02-10-2020, 11:32 PM
He might have got a penalty had he not over emphasised with that daft dive.

and more importantly wouldn't have hurt himself.

Scouse Hibee
02-10-2020, 11:37 PM
and more importantly wouldn't have hurt himself.

Yes there is that as well, a double whammy for his theatrical endeavours. Hope he’s not going to miss any games because of it, he’s really impressed and was missed today when he left the pitch.

Jdawg
02-10-2020, 11:37 PM
We lost all momentum as soon as he went off. Hallberg came on and was rubbish. Is Hallberg a DM, a CM or an attacking midfielder? Who knows. Or is he just substandard?

Get well soon Joe!

The 90+2
02-10-2020, 11:39 PM
Yes and he never got a penalty, which could have been as a result of the daft dive, if there was the slightest doubt from the ref. It’s not rocket science, we’ve all seen the results of theatrical dives going against a player even if we think he was clearly fouled. Not sure why you need to be so argumentative about it, you must have seen it happen before, I have.

The only thing I’m arguing against is using it not to call a foul, which it was. Of course I’ve seen it before, doesn’t make it the right call though.

Scouse Hibee
02-10-2020, 11:44 PM
The only thing I’m arguing against is using it not to call a foul, which it was. Of course I’ve seen it before, doesn’t make it the right call though.

😂 I’m out, goodnight.

The 90+2
02-10-2020, 11:51 PM
😂 I’m out, goodnight.


Was going to the same if you didn't reply that :greengrin

Night pal :aok:

The Modfather
03-10-2020, 07:23 AM
Not that it’s particularly important, but not even close to a penalty and simply a dive IMO. He deliberately sticks his leg out to engineer contact. The Hamilton player doesn’t move, so Newell kicks him if anything, then he flings himself to the ground. Not what I like to see but he played well once again, Newell is starting to make me change my opinion on him being decent enough but not consistent enough, long may t continue.

Aldo
03-10-2020, 07:39 AM
Need him fit for the end of the month!


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Brightside
03-10-2020, 07:53 AM
He’s rubbish though. Read it on here many many times. 😂

hibbysam
03-10-2020, 08:01 AM
He’s rubbish though. Read it on here many many times. 😂

Only takes the easy passes hence why his % is so high, doesn’t take it off the defenders and move it on, doesn’t contribute to goals, better with McGeouch...

lucky
03-10-2020, 08:03 AM
He the player that makes us tick in the middle of the park. We lost our way when sphere went off. Gogic started to try and play as the playmaker and we lost our shape and edge. Newel will be an important player this season for us.

mjhibby
03-10-2020, 08:31 AM
It clearly did make him hit the deck in that manner. Player planted leg and tripped attacker, penalty. Exactly the same as Porteous on their attacker.

You are calling him a diver, fair enough, I’m not.

IT was a clear penalty. Just as you described. I wonder what var would have decided. Forget how a player falls. A foul is a foul and loads of players are experts at buying pen with dives that look natural falls.

The Modfather
03-10-2020, 08:36 AM
He’s rubbish though. Read it on here many many times. ��


Only takes the easy passes hence why his % is so high, doesn’t take it off the defenders and move it on, doesn’t contribute to goals, better with McGeouch...

I’m not sure these kind of self congratulatory, mocking tones help a constructive debate. They probably do more to entrench views than anything. I’ve questioned Newell’s output and consistency, and I think it’s been a fair criticism at times. He’s now had 4 or 5 games in a row where the midfield has looked a lot more balanced and competitive, and he’s been a big part of that. My opinion of him is definitely shifting towards him being part of the mid - long term answer, particularly with another midfielder (maybe Maggenis) in beside him and Gogic, but still a way to go yet to show he/the midfield can maintain this form over most of a season.

Tyler Durden
03-10-2020, 08:42 AM
I’m not sure these kind of self congratulatory, mocking tones help a constructive debate. They probably do more to entrench views than anything. I’ve questioned Newell’s output and consistency, and I think it’s been a fair criticism at times. He’s now had 4 or 5 games in a row where the midfield has looked a lot more balanced and competitive, and he’s been a big part of that. My opinion of him is definitely shifting towards him being part of the mid - long term answer, particularly with another midfielder (maybe Maggenis) in beside him and Gogic, but still a way to go yet to show he/the midfield can maintain this form over most of a season.

There’s been plenty of unfair criticism for Newell.

Even now the goal posts are moving. “He needs to have a few good games in a row”. “he needs to play well against the OF”. “He needs to do it over most of a season”.

He’s played well since the season started, some people just didn’t want to see it.

Greenbeard
03-10-2020, 08:46 AM
I’m not sure these kind of self congratulatory, mocking tones help a constructive debate. They probably do more to entrench views than anything. I’ve questioned Newell’s output and consistency, and I think it’s been a fair criticism at times. He’s now had 4 or 5 games in a row where the midfield has looked a lot more balanced and competitive, and he’s been a big part of that. My opinion of him is definitely shifting towards him being part of the mid - long term answer, particularly with another midfielder (maybe Maggenis) in beside him and Gogic, but still a way to go yet to show he/the midfield can maintain this form over most of a season.
Ta for saving me the bother of trying to express the same view. I have gone from being unimpressed early on in his Hibs career and filing initially alongside Vela, to indifferent, to mildly impressed at times, to key selection. Hope he keeps it up. But made a bit of an erse of himself with that swallow dive. My immediate reaction was to guffaw loudly. Probably damaged his rotator cuff landing on his shoulder and will be stiff for 4-5 days, hopefully no worse. Plenty time to recover.

matty_f
03-10-2020, 08:47 AM
Newell is showing himself to be a key player. With Ross signing Magennis, it certainly gives competition in that area of the pitch so standards can’t be allowed to fall. Newell is well worthy of the starting jersey on current form though.

BoomtownHibees
03-10-2020, 08:49 AM
There’s been plenty of unfair criticism for Newell.

Even now the goal posts are moving. “He needs to have a few good games in a row”. “he needs to play well against the OF”. “He needs to do it over most of a season”.

He’s played well since the season started, some people just didn’t want to see it.

He’s had some good games and some not so good. I don’t think anybody can deny that

The Modfather
03-10-2020, 08:57 AM
There’s been plenty of unfair criticism for Newell.

Even now the goal posts are moving. “He needs to have a few good games in a row”. “he needs to play well against the OF”. “He needs to do it over most of a season”.

He’s played well since the season started, some people just didn’t want to see it.

There’s always unfair criticism, same as others wouldn’t entertain any criticism when he and the midfield struggled for 2 or 3 games.

As for moving the goalposts, it depends on in what context. He’s one of the first picks on form the last 4 or 5 games. As to whether he is the long term answer, I’m shifting towards yes. However a handful of games, be them good or poor, Isn’t enough to judge either way about being a mid-long term answer.

Monts
03-10-2020, 09:01 AM
Dare I say it, I think he's benefiting from Allan being out the team.

As for the penalty shout, I wouldn't have been surprised if it was given, and I can see why it wasn't.

MWHIBBIES
03-10-2020, 09:04 AM
Dare I say it, I think he's benefiting from Allan being out the team.

As for the penalty shout, I wouldn't have been surprised if it was given, and I can see why it wasn't.

I think he is benefitting more from being in his best position and playing consistently. And honestly, not being hounded by the fans like he was last season.

He had many excellent games with Allan in the side last season IMO.

B.H.F.C
03-10-2020, 09:10 AM
There’s been plenty of unfair criticism for Newell.

Even now the goal posts are moving. “He needs to have a few good games in a row”. “he needs to play well against the OF”. “He needs to do it over most of a season”.

He’s played well since the season started, some people just didn’t want to see it.

Disagree. I think it’s possible to criticise when he’s been poor and praise when he’s been good.

There have been games he has been very good, particularly last night, Livingston and St Mirren where we’ve set up with a 442 and it’s all been about attacking. I thought he battled well against Rangers as well.

There have been other games where he’s not been effective. Aberdeen, Motherwell, St Johnstone, Celtic were all games where we toiled in the middle of the park.

Tyler Durden
03-10-2020, 09:11 AM
He’s had some good games and some not so good. I don’t think anybody can deny that

Agreed. Probably the only person who has been faultless this season is Hanlon.

But if we look at last night, the worst performers were McGinn and Porteous. There won’t be any posts about them querying whether they are good enough for Hibs long term. Instead most of the negatives are about Hallberg, who didn’t really do much wrong, wasn’t much different to Gogic.

hibbysam
03-10-2020, 09:26 AM
Disagree. I think it’s possible to criticise when he’s been poor and praise when he’s been good.

There have been games he has been very good, particularly last night, Livingston and St Mirren where we’ve set up with a 442 and it’s all been about attacking. I thought he battled well against Rangers as well.

There have been other games where he’s not been effective. Aberdeen, Motherwell, St Johnstone, Celtic were all games where we toiled in the middle of the park.

Celtic first half he was fine, Motherwell had a very good three against our two, Aberdeen Gogic was missing so his role was different.

He’s been very good the whole season for me, doing his job and now adding slightly more to be excellent rather than very good. He’s our best midfielder by a distance. The problem in most of the games you mention was our front 4/5 being poor and I said so on all of those games.

He’s added the slight attacking side to his game, take the penalty incident last night, picking up one of their players in the left back area when the ball goes out to the right (who had tripped accidentally), seconds later picks up the ball on the inside right and drives into the box. Excellent.

He was clearly working to instruction early in the season and doing it very well, he’s been asked to add more and is adding more. I wouldn’t say he’s been ‘poor’ in any game this season.

hibbysam
03-10-2020, 09:28 AM
Agreed. Probably the only person who has been faultless this season is Hanlon.

But if we look at last night, the worst performers were McGinn and Porteous. There won’t be any posts about them querying whether they are good enough for Hibs long term. Instead most of the negatives are about Hallberg, who didn’t really do much wrong, wasn’t much different to Gogic.

I don’t think Porteous was our worst performer last night, he was outstanding first half. Made one mistake for the penalty and I’m reluctant to even call the OG a mistake, had to try and get something on it. That clouds people’s judgement of the whole game.

B.H.F.C
03-10-2020, 09:40 AM
Celtic first half he was fine, Motherwell had a very good three against our two, Aberdeen Gogic was missing so his role was different.

He’s been very good the whole season for me, doing his job and now adding slightly more to be excellent rather than very good. He’s our best midfielder by a distance. The problem in most of the games you mention was our front 4/5 being poor and I said so on all of those games.

He’s added the slight attacking side to his game, take the penalty incident last night, picking up one of their players in the left back area when the ball goes out to the right (who had tripped accidentally), seconds later picks up the ball on the inside right and drives into the box. Excellent.

He was clearly working to instruction early in the season and doing it very well, he’s been asked to add more and is adding more. I wouldn’t say he’s been ‘poor’ in any game this season.

So basically, in the games he wasn’t good, it wasn’t down to him?

I’m not even looking to be really critical of Newell by the way. I just think he’s had some good and some poorer games. Disagree with people coming on with their sarcastic posts and daft emojis in regard to what has been posted previously about a player. Folk see it different then fine, but for me Newell has done well at times and not so at others.

hibbysam
03-10-2020, 09:49 AM
So basically, in the games he wasn’t good, it wasn’t down to him?

I’m not even looking to be really critical of Newell by the way. I just think he’s had some good and some poorer games. Disagree with people coming on with their sarcastic posts and daft emojis in regard to what has been posted previously about a player. Folk see it different then fine, but for me Newell has done well at times and not so at others.

No, in the games we struggled in midfield there was a reason, he was still good individually in those games.

Take Motherwell, we went with a two, they had a three (Ross even said last night our two leaves us light in there and we need our other players to do the business to offset that, ie our wingers and strikers), their three was Turnbull, one of the best young players in the country, Campbell, another top class young player, and O’Hara who is a solid player. We aren’t going to overrun that midfield, however Newell stuck to his task during the time where we had our best spell of chances (first half).

You can say he’s not been great in games, fine, that’s an opinion, like I’m allowed mine. People saying he’s a poor player and nowhere near good enough for us while he keeps proving them wrong in games is why I’ll take great delight in that. He’s class.

Eyrie
03-10-2020, 10:06 AM
Not that it’s particularly important, but not even close to a penalty and simply a dive IMO. He deliberately sticks his leg out to engineer contact. The Hamilton player doesn’t move, so Newell kicks him if anything, then he flings himself to the ground. Not what I like to see but he played well once again, Newell is starting to make me change my opinion on him being decent enough but not consistent enough, long may t continue.

It's worth re-stating the facts to those posters who think it was a penalty.

Take the green tinted specs off and we'd all be pissed off if a Hamilton player had got away with that at the other end.

B.H.F.C
03-10-2020, 10:08 AM
No, in the games we struggled in midfield there was a reason, he was still good individually in those games.

Take Motherwell, we went with a two, they had a three (Ross even said last night our two leaves us light in there and we need our other players to do the business to offset that, ie our wingers and strikers), their three was Turnbull, one of the best young players in the country, Campbell, another top class young player, and O’Hara who is a solid player. We aren’t going to overrun that midfield, however Newell stuck to his task during the time where we had our best spell of chances (first half).

You can say he’s not been great in games, fine, that’s an opinion, like I’m allowed mine. People saying he’s a poor player and nowhere near good enough for us while he keeps proving them wrong in games is why I’ll take great delight in that. He’s class.

We’ll disagree that he’s always been good individually, particularly against Motherwell when he got hooked pretty early.

As I say, happy to praise him when he is good. I still think he’s got a bit to go to be described as class though.

hibbysam
03-10-2020, 10:13 AM
We’ll disagree that he’s always been good individually, particularly against Motherwell when he got hooked pretty early.

As I say, happy to praise him when he is good. I still think he’s got a bit to go to be described as class though.

84% pass completion rate for the season, 2 assists and a goal in his last 3 and a half games, controlling our midfield/team. If you watch him and don’t think he oozes class then fair enough, he’s got everything I’d want in my midfielder in his position. Not quite sure what your expecting or wanting him to do more of.

jeffers
03-10-2020, 10:15 AM
We’ll disagree that he’s always been good individually, particularly against Motherwell when he got hooked pretty early.

As I say, happy to praise him when he is good. I still think he’s got a bit to go to be described as class though.

Pretty much where I’m at. I thought he was poor against Motherwell and Aberdeen, but when he’s on it he is a really decent player.

B.H.F.C
03-10-2020, 10:24 AM
84% pass completion rate for the season, 2 assists and a goal in his last 3 and a half games, controlling our midfield/team. If you watch him and don’t think he oozes class then fair enough, he’s got everything I’d want in my midfielder in his position. Not quite sure what your expecting or wanting him to do more of.

You’ve obviously made your mind up and won’t have it any other way. I just judge on what I’ve watched and there has been really good performances, equally some poor ones. Don’t dispute his more recent contribution, but there was the spell of three or four games I mentioned where the midfield were well off it and he was part of it. That’s why I dispute that he’s been good in every game.

LeithMike
03-10-2020, 10:27 AM
Pretty much where I’m at. I thought he was poor against Motherwell and Aberdeen, but when he’s on it he is a really decent player.
He’s rubbish though. Read it on here many many times. [emoji23]
Only takes the easy passes hence why his % is so high, doesn’t take it off the defenders and move it on, doesn’t contribute to goals, better with McGeouch...Poor chat in my view. Leads to polarised, entrenched views and just encourages those with the opposite view to post after a poor game. Remember the opposition too.

I didnt see the game last night but it sounds like Hamilton sat off us in the first half and gave us time to play but upped the pressure in the second half. I think its fair to say that Hibs have a midfield who play well when given time but struggle under pressure. A lot of the comments I've seen on Newell were not so much about his ability but the (lack of) balance in the midfield.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Magennis is up to speed and whether we'll go 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. Newell clearly has ability and we'll just have to see if JR can get the best out of him once the squad is fully assembled. It's a good problem for JR to have.

I'm encouraged by the Magennis signing that JR is addressing our issues.

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hibbysam
03-10-2020, 10:44 AM
Poor chat in my view. Leads to polarised, entrenched views and just encourages those with the opposite view to post after a poor game. Remember the opposition too.

I didnt see the game last night but it sounds like Hamilton sat off us in the first half and gave us time to play but upped the pressure in the second half. I think its fair to say that Hibs have a midfield who play well when given time but struggle under pressure. A lot of the comments I've seen on Newell were not so much about his ability but the (lack of) balance in the midfield.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Magennis is up to speed and whether we'll go 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. Newell clearly has ability and we'll just have to see if JR can get the best out of him once the squad is fully assembled. It's a good problem for JR to have.

I'm encouraged by the Magennis signing that JR is addressing our issues.

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Thanks for answering the questions for us. We played very well first half when Newell was on the pitch and dictating the game, we fell out of it second half when they pressured and we had no one with the composure to knock the ball about and move it.

hibbysam
03-10-2020, 10:50 AM
You’ve obviously made your mind up and won’t have it any other way. I just judge on what I’ve watched and there has been really good performances, equally some poor ones. Don’t dispute his more recent contribution, but there was the spell of three or four games I mentioned where the midfield were well off it and he was part of it. That’s why I dispute that he’s been good in every game.

As have you, our front 4/5 were off it and our full backs weren’t helping in an attacking sense. Ross clearly set up like Rangers do for those games in that he has two sitting midfielders, expecting them to sit and then get the ball to our front 4 to create. Newell done his job, we never kept the ball when it went forward and it just kept coming back. Boyles contribution plummeted, Horgan was average, Allan was struggling, Doidge couldn’t do it all himself as Nisbet missed the Aberdeen and Saints games. That’s the overall picture, not just ‘our midfield were overrun so Newell was poor’. He wasn’t poor in his role. He performed it fine, in my opinion.

Lago
03-10-2020, 10:51 AM
Perfectly entitled to fall over there I reckon! Defender dangled a leg. Could have been given.
Yeah but he didn't need to go for a full pike 😅

B.H.F.C
03-10-2020, 11:01 AM
As have you, our front 4/5 were off it and our full backs weren’t helping in an attacking sense. Ross clearly set up like Rangers do for those games in that he has two sitting midfielders, expecting them to sit and then get the ball to our front 4 to create. Newell done his job, we never kept the ball when it went forward and it just kept coming back. Boyles contribution plummeted, Horgan was average, Allan was struggling, Doidge couldn’t do it all himself as Nisbet missed the Aberdeen and Saints games. That’s the overall picture, not just ‘our midfield were overrun so Newell was poor’. He wasn’t poor in his role. He performed it fine, in my opinion.

The thread is about Newell though. He was poor in certain games. If the thread was about Boyle, for instance, I’m sure there would be similar said about him. I just find the view that Newell has performed well every week a bit unbalanced tbh.

hibbysam
03-10-2020, 11:16 AM
The thread is about Newell though. He was poor in certain games. If the thread was about Boyle, for instance, I’m sure there would be similar said about him. I just find the view that Newell has performed well every week a bit unbalanced tbh.

And I find saying he was poor in games ‘because the midfield was overrun’ weak, without looking at why that was. All those factors add up to it. In my opinion he done well in those games, our failings were elsewhere. He can only do his job, he can’t win the ball, keep the ball, hold the ball up up front, beat a full back and score a header. If the striker isn’t holding the ball up or the winger can’t beat a man, and then 5 players are running at 2, he’s hardly going to look outstanding is he? Perspective.

B.H.F.C
03-10-2020, 11:18 AM
And I find saying he was poor in games ‘because the midfield was overrun’ weak, without looking at why that was. All those factors add up to it. In my opinion he done well in those games, our failings were elsewhere. He can only do his job, he can’t win the ball, keep the ball, hold the ball up up front, beat a full back and score a header. If the striker isn’t holding the ball up or the winger can’t beat a man, and then 5 players are running at 2, he’s hardly going to look outstanding is he? Perspective.

Perspective would be acknowledging he hasn’t always done his job. I think we’ll need to agree to disagree here.

HendoDelivered
03-10-2020, 12:07 PM
Serious question though. When is he gonna get a new deal signed? I would be gutted if we lost him.

Dazzjw1875
03-10-2020, 12:38 PM
Defo missed him in the 2nd half last night was a big miss with his crossing and passing.. hope we are working on tying him up on a new long term deal.

Since452
03-10-2020, 01:40 PM
Two week break from the league for him to have a wee rest if there is anything badly wrong with his arm but sounds promising

madhatter
03-10-2020, 01:41 PM
Needs better competition for place. Hopefully expected signing(s) will help. Good player but Gogic has had bigger impact than anyone in midfield. Hallberg didn't do anything massively wrong in 2nd half but our grip on game faded dramatically and he's got a big part to play in that.

Hope it still works out but think his time is coming to an end. Almost identical to Slivka. Good player, does not impose himself at all. Newel needs to improve on that as well but is well ahead of Hallberg and Mallan.

Still expect more from Newell. He's got more.