I would love a Hibs throw-in coach, wouldn't you?

[Scott Allan Key]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/23/liverpool-throw-in-coach-thomas-gronnemark-klopp?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Something we've been poor at for ages, especially from our full-backs. Wonder if we'd ever condider this, further down the line? The potential for accurate set plays could be immense. Thoughts?

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[h18eeynick]

I actually think we have been much better at them this season with McGinn and Doig taking short quicker ones that actually find a team mate instead of lumping up in the air as a free for all

[scoopyboy]

It's annoyed me for years but can't say I've noticed it this season.

Must mean they are doing it better.

[Iggy Pope]

Seems we do better at throw ins when we are ahead. When we are chasing a win or worse still behind, it is excruciatingly slow and has been for years. SDG and his beautiful Berwick being a very recent culprit, wee Lewis no better. Oh for that fellah in Scoopyboys avatar.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Interesting article, doubt we could afford him, but you'd hope someone at the club will be buying his book when it comes out.

[gbhibby]

We could do with a few players who can take long throw ins.

[Onceinawhile]

We could do with a few players who can take long throw ins.

Think doig has a decent throw on him.

Our throw ins have been fine this season.

[surreyhibbie]

Seems we do better at throw ins when we are ahead. When we are chasing a win or worse still behind, it is excruciatingly slow and has been for years. SDG and his beautiful Berwick being a very recent culprit, wee Lewis no better. Oh for that fellah in Scoopyboys avatar.

definitely. one of my all time favourites, he had some throw on him. Also scored at my first away game at Partick. Huge throw into the box, came back to him and he lashed it into the net from miles out.

other goal was scored by a new guy called Alan Gordon!

great memories of the guy.

[Iggy Pope]

We could do with a few players who can take long throw ins.

One would be plenty though.

[Iggy Pope]

definitely. one of my all time favourites, he had some throw on him. Also scored at my first away game at Partick. Huge throw into the box, came back to him and he lashed it into the net from miles out.

other goal was scored by a new guy called Alan Gordon!

great memories of the guy.

Got yer badge on?

[Hibiza]

Good shout.

[EI255]

Funny, my mate used to always bang on about how poor we were with throws and continually give the ball away. I'd tend to agree with him tbh.

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[surreyhibbie]

Got yer badge on?

of course! :thumbsup:

[Bayern Bru]

We could do with a few players who can take long throw ins.

Newell has taken a few long throws near the opposition penalty area.


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[Jim44]

I don’t think we need a specific throw in coach. Our present coaches need to work on player movement at throw ins. We seem to be very static at throw ins most of the time.

[18Craig75]

Commented on this watching the game. Our throw ins were much better. More credit to Jack Ross and his coaching team.

[Iggy Pope]

of course! :thumbsup:

:aok::greengrin

[Tynie01011973]

I don’t think we need a specific throw in coach. Our present coaches need to work on player movement at throw ins. We seem to be very static at throw ins most of the time.

Yes 👍

Previously we just seemed to throw down the line as far as we could!
We need to have more movement from front players to get into bit of space to turn and then start to attack the defences and maybe win some free kicks in the attacking areas
👍

[jacomo]

Fascinating article that. Have to be honest, I never noticed Liverpool’s efficiency at corners, but it shows how the big clubs are addressing the fine margins in the game.

[Mibbes Aye]

Funnily enough, I had been thinking about throw-ins and posting about it.

For me they seem increasingly anachronistic. At child level, the ball is placed on the touch line and you kick it into play, which encourages touch to feet and also likely reduces headers. I don’t see why that couldn’t happen at adult level. Throw-ins just seem like a over-complicated way of restarting the game. And that is before you get into the foul throws and stealing yards.

I am also lacking conviction with corners. We know the conversion rate to goals is minimal and the percentage approach means that most teams play it fast to the near post, which can be readily dealt with by the defence. Corners are almost a negative opportunity nowadays. I can’t think of a better option though. If we did kick-ins similar to throw-ins, taken from where the ball crossed the goal line, I don’t think it would help. Defences would just learn tactics and deal with it much in the way they deal with indirect free kicks in the box (which you hardly ever see nowadays). Regardless, corners just seem a bit anachronistic too.

[Mibbes Aye]

I don’t think we need a specific throw in coach. Our present coaches need to work on player movement at throw ins. We seem to be very static at throw ins most of the time.

There is a combination required. The thrower needs to get there quickly and those showing need to move quickly. Tierney at Arsenal is a good example. He is on the line, the ball in hand in quick time but he has three or four options, front, middle and back, all trying to show for the ball.

It is just good discipline and concentration.

[FilipinoHibs]

I actually think we have been much better at them this season with McGinn and Doig taking short quicker ones that actually find a team mate instead of lumping up in the air as a free for all

Agree think they have improved this season. We taking them much more quickly and not always waiting for the designated thrower to take it which means we are not so quickly marked up.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

When I was doing some physio with a guy at Meadowbank he mentioned that he did some work for hearts during the Vlad years. According to him Robbie Nielsen had one of the most powerful throw ins such that he could have been a good javelin thrower - I forgot to ask about the hammer ;)

Unfortunately we’re trimming down.

[heretoday]

I'd like to apply for the throw-in job.
How hard can it be?

[Scott Allan Key]

I'd like to apply for the throw-in job.
How hard can it be?The coach at Liverpool, Midgetyland, etc, holds the world record for throw in length at over 50 metres, utilising a front flip before he throws. Think you can do that?

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[Dinkydoo]

Think doig has a decent throw on him.

Our throw ins have been fine this season.Came on here to say that very thing. In one of the first couple of games we had on sky I noticed Doig getting the ball out quickly - instead of the constipated, dithery throw Lewis has.

(Big fan of Stevenson btw, just saying)

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[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Remember that boy Dave Challinor from the English lower leagues? His throw ins in the last third of the pitch were as good as corners and were more like set pieces rather than just a way to re-start the game.

[patlowe]

One thing that people hardly ever mention re throw-ins is that the team doing the throwing is at an immediate disadvantage, with a player essentially off the field taking the throw and the remaining players relatively easy to mark in such a confined space. Perhaps that makes it even more important to work on it in training to come up with strategies to overcome this. But I would suspect fans of lots of clubs express frustration around throw-ins or feel that they are uniquely incompetent in this area.

[BILLYHIBS]

Oh for the days of an Erich Schaedler or a Gordon ‘Juke Box’ Durie that could hit the back post with a throw in

As good as a corner kick

They don’t seem to make footballers nowadays like they used to

:greengrin

[delbert]

One thing that people hardly ever mention re throw-ins is that the team doing the throwing is at an immediate disadvantage, with a player essentially off the field taking the throw and the remaining players relatively easy to mark in such a confined space. Perhaps that makes it even more important to work on it in training to come up with strategies to overcome this. But I would suspect fans of lots of clubs express frustration around throw-ins or feel that they are uniquely incompetent in this area.

The thrower is also the only guy not marked, so the very simple solution seen often but for some reason not often done at Hibs, is a cushioned volley pass back to the thrower, who is then involved again right away.

[O'Rourke3]

Oh for the days of an Erich Schaedler or a Gordon ‘Juke Box’ Durie that could hit the back post with a throw in

As good as a corner kick

They don’t seem to make footballers nowadays like they used to

:greengrinOn his last game for us Mark Milligan launched an exocet. Why the hell we had been hiding that all season. Efe Ambose also had a long throw which we never took advantage of. As team we have been awful from throw-ins since the 80s We have improved under JR.

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[BILLYHIBS]

On his last game for us Mark Milligan launched an exocet. Why the hell we had been hiding that all season. Efe Ambose also had a long throw which we never took advantage of. As team we have been awful from throw-ins since the 80s We have improved under JR.

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Remember the Mark Milligan one and Efe looked useful too when given the opportunity but not often

[nonshinyfinish]

The thrower is also the only guy not marked, so the very simple solution seen often but for some reason not often done at Hibs, is a cushioned volley pass back to the thrower, who is then involved again right away.

Can't remember seeing it that much recently, but for a while this was one of two things we commonly did with throw-ins (the other being hump it up the line), and it fairly regularly involved the ball being passed straight back out of play. It's what comes to mind for me when I think about our peak of crap throw-ins.

It's a perfectly good strategy if you execute it well, of course. It further emphasises what's been said above: that it's not just about the thrower, but the movement of other players to receive the ball and technical ability to do something when they get it.

[Onceinawhile]

The thrower is also the only guy not marked, so the very simple solution seen often but for some reason not often done at Hibs, is a cushioned volley pass back to the thrower, who is then involved again right away.

Usually however, for a cushioned volley to not get intercepted, it needs to be 3 or 4 yards away and that then means we are in to a 3v3 (or similar) in a very tight area of the pitch, which makes it very difficult to get out.