Balanced analysis on sky sports missing?

[tonyrougier123]

Thought we had a great shout for a penalty,but despite that it was a good ball put in across goal not even covered or discussed post match that I saw.a lot of talk about elbows but again defoes elbow into Boyle not even covered.pretty annoying😡.and if sky are going to cover games over the next so many years,hopefully they can start representing the clubs on live games,not just the old firm.

[Jones28]

It would have been nice to have someone that had more than what was, at best, a fleeting relationship with the club.

[TheGog]

Totally agree just posted on another thread this as well but Morelos kicking out at porto in the first half hasn't been mentioned anywhere or picked up

[S4uzee]

I thought the coverage from Sky was shocking today, couldn’t believe how biased it was

[kaimendhibs]

It was horrendous. Need to work out how to get hibspass on my telly

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[A Hi-Bee]

I thought the coverage from Sky was shocking today, couldn’t believe how biased it was

It was normal west coast bias, from the wee cabel they have going, nice if you can break into it as it pays well.
Bunch of ****s

:greengrin

[tonyrougier123]

It was horrendous. Need to work out how to get hibspass on my telly

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I’ve got sky go but I would rather have payed to see it on hibs tv after the shocking coverage.its back to the 90s that guff!
If would be great if clubs could cut out the middle man for coverage

[RoYO!]

Watched it on hibs pass even tho I could have watched it on sky. Wonderful coverage. Didn't once get annoyed at the commentary, really good guest in John Collins - used "we" a lot when discussing hibs play. Really great today. No andy walker. No kris boyd- says it all really.

[SanFranHibs]

McCoists remarks after the game were fair. He knows what a Rangers and Hibs game at Easter Road should be.

"It had a wee edge to it which I didn't mind at all. Some of the Hibs playeres were trying to wind the Rangers players up and I don't mind that at all. I think Rangers have more quality so you do what you can.

"They defended well, played well and scored a couple of goals. Some of the quality in terms of the goals was excellent. Rangers probably had more possession and better chances, but McLaughlin had to make a couple of good good saves as well."


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[JohnM1875]

We were basically watching on Rangers TV today. Absolutely shocking. Was actually furious with their bias.

Maybe I need to get out more post lockdown 😂

[Unseen work]

It was unbelievable today

Hanlon should have been sent off
Hagi with the assist of the season
Porteous foul on Morelos (no mention of Morelos trying to kick out)
The offside goal
Questioning if Doidge on Helander was a foul for the goal.

Incredible.

[Ryan91]

McCoists remarks after the game were fair. He knows what a Rangers and Hibs game at Easter Road should be.

"It had a wee edge to it which I didn't mind at all. Some of the Hibs playeres were trying to wind the Rangers players up and I don't mind that at all. I think Rangers have more quality so you do what you can.

"They defended well, played well and scored a couple of goals. Some of the quality in terms of the goals was excellent. Rangers probably had more possession and better chances, but McLaughlin had to make a couple of good good saves as well."


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In spite of the fact that he's a fat hun welt, he's actually a decent pundit on occasion.

[norhfc]

Watched it on my international Hibstv but also have Sky, tuned in at HT to hear Kris Boyd shouting about a red card for Hanlon. The guys a joke, and Walker saying Hibs are being overly aggressive, I couldn’t believe we where watching the same game. Might as well have Rangers tv on, at least we get a laugh at their commentators.

[Since452]

Beautiful

[Sammy7nil]

McCoists remarks after the game were fair. He knows what a Rangers and Hibs game at Easter Road should be.

"It had a wee edge to it which I didn't mind at all. Some of the Hibs playeres were trying to wind the Rangers players up and I don't mind that at all. I think Rangers have more quality so you do what you can.

"They defended well, played well and scored a couple of goals. Some of the quality in terms of the goals was excellent. Rangers probably had more possession and better chances, but McLaughlin had to make a couple of good good saves as well."


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McCoist is good but boy give it a ******g break a bit Hagi’s pass I think he went on for about ten minutes until he got back on track.

[Hibernia&Alba]

McCoists remarks after the game were fair. He knows what a Rangers and Hibs game at Easter Road should be.

"It had a wee edge to it which I didn't mind at all. Some of the Hibs playeres were trying to wind the Rangers players up and I don't mind that at all. I think Rangers have more quality so you do what you can.

"They defended well, played well and scored a couple of goals. Some of the quality in terms of the goals was excellent. Rangers probably had more possession and better chances, but McLaughlin had to make a couple of good good saves as well."


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I actually don't mind McCoist and think he's developed into a good pundit. The issue, however, is that every game featuring the Old Firm is packed with their old boys, like it's a fan channel, when a national broadcaster should try to be balanced. Those who want clear bias need to subscribe to their chosen fan channel. I suppose it will always be the same and the rest of us will just need to live with it. We are just there to make up the numbers whilst the broadcasters focus upon how the Old Firm are playing.

[Hibernia&Alba]

It was unbelievable today

Hanlon should have been sent off
Hagi with the assist of the season
Porteous foul on Morelos (no mention of Morelos trying to kick out)
The offside goal
Questioning if Doidge on Helander was a foul for the goal.

Incredible.

Yes, everything is viewed through the prism of the Old Firm, which is completely unfair.

[givescotlandfreedom]

It really was dire. Boyd could barely contain his rage and his waistcoat could barley contain him.

[Vault Boy]

Luckily I watched on HTV, but this lineup is a joke. A Hibs home game and they go with two Rangers legends, they don't even try to be subtle anymore.

As others have said, I've actually got some time for McCoist, but for the sake of balance, how the **** have they justified both of them? Complete disservice to sports broadcasting.

[Billy Whizz]

I don’t tweet, but maybe someone could ask Luke Shanley, why it’s so old firm biased
To give us Andy Walker, as the Hibs pundit, is just a joke

[NC1875]

I don’t tweet, but maybe someone could ask Luke Shanley, why it’s so old firm biased
To give us Andy Walker, as the Hibs pundit, is just a joke

was just about to say the same. Someone tweet sky and call them out on it. Doubt you’d even get a response mind you.

[Vault Boy]

It really was dire. Boyd could barely contain his rage and his waistcoat could barley contain him.

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[Billy Whizz]

was just about to say the same. Someone tweet sky and call them out on it. Doubt you’d even get a response mind you.

I’m sure Luke would reply, if you post a reasonable question

[Alfred E Newman]

I don’t tweet, but maybe someone could ask Luke Shanley, why it’s so old firm biased
To give us Andy Walker, as the Hibs pundit, is just a joke

Ah but he did play 8 games on loan for us 25 years ago and he’s a Celtic man. :rolleyes:

[NC1875]

Also pissed off at the final comment from the female presenter (not a clue who she is) saying 2 points dropped for Rangers at Easter Road. Why not 2 points dropped for Hibs ? So biased it was unbelievable

[tonyrougier123]

It really was dire. Boyd could barely contain his rage and his waistcoat could barley contain him.

😂 class!

[Hibernia&Alba]

Also pissed off at the final comment from the female presenter (not a clue who she is) saying 2 points dropped for Rangers at Easter Road. Why not 2 points dropped for Hibs ? So biased it was unbelievable

Again, everything is analysed through their perspective. It has always been thus.

[S4uzee]

Also pissed off at the final comment from the female presenter (not a clue who she is) saying 2 points dropped for Rangers at Easter Road. Why not 2 points dropped for Hibs ? So biased it was unbelievable

Or “did Doidge foul Helander, he had 2 hands on the back” 🤣

[roo62]

McCoist is good but boy give it a ******g break a bit Hagi’s pass I think he went on for about ten minutes until he got back on track.

Ha ha yeah not a patch on Mcginn's pass where Nisbet made their keeper save well.

[neil7908]

I thought the coverage from Sky was shocking today, couldn’t believe how biased it was

I don't expect much from the broadcasters when we play the OF but this was absolutely brutal. Just glad I don't give them any money.

[Borderhibbie76]

was just about to say the same. Someone tweet sky and call them out on it. Doubt you’d even get a response mind you.

Already did at half time - Ignored

[Hibs Class]

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[wookie70]

It is clearly biased but it is a commercial station so you can choose to not subscribe. I'm more concerned about the BBC where we have little or no choice but to subscribe

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Sky today was geared to be all about Rangers and how great they are, and are they gonnae stop this 10 in a row p!sh, and aren’t they an amazing side under Gerrard.

Then we come along and **** the hole thing up, marvellous!

[CMurdoch]

I don’t tweet, but maybe someone could ask Luke Shanley, why it’s so old firm biased
To give us Andy Walker, as the Hibs pundit, is just a joke

That is an easy question.
It's capitalism at work. Pander to the most subscribers to keep them happy.
Far more Sky subscribers are old firm supporters than any other scottish team, so voila you get old firm centric coverage. It's nothing personal just nasty old capitalism.
Keep subscribing and you are part of the problem.

[Alfred E Newman]

Beautiful

It was.
I really enjoyed listening to them seeth.

[1875Sean]

I don’t mind McCoist but Boyd and Walker are terrible, if Sky are serious about showing Scottish football in a good light they need punted

[DavieRoy]

I don’t mind McCoist but Boyd and Walker are terrible, if Sky are serious about showing Scottish football in a good light they need punted

I thought McCoist was so biased during the first half, wanting every Hibernian player booked. Every Rangers challenge was ‘accidental’!

Walker was actually okay.

They did have Rob Gordon and Ryan Porteous on before the game and you could download them, so the balance was there in a different way.

Boyd was raging about Hanlon, they are clutching a straws. That shows how desperate that mob are.

[Hibs Class]

I thought McCoist was so biased during the first half, wanting every Hibernian player booked. Every Rangers challenge was ‘accidental’!

Walker was actually okay.

They did have Rob Gordon and Ryan Porteous on before the game and you could download them, so the balance was there in a different way.

Boyd was raging about Hanlon, they are clutching a straws. That shows how desperate that mob are.

Also, when Rangers won the ball it was good ball winning, but when Hibs won the ball it was poor play by rangers to lose possession

[jacomo]

I thought McCoist was so biased during the first half, wanting every Hibernian player booked. Every Rangers challenge was ‘accidental’!

Walker was actually okay.

They did have Rob Gordon and Ryan Porteous on before the game and you could download them, so the balance was there in a different way.

Boyd was raging about Hanlon, they are clutching a straws. That shows how desperate that mob are.


I think The Rangers knew they needed to consolidate their place at the top of the table to put pressure on Celtc. Now we could do them a favour by getting a result v Celtc but they will still be breathing down their necks.

Basically the Huns have blown it already.

[matty_f]

The coverage yesterday was appallingly biased. Every decision and incident was viewed through a Rangers lens, there was very little objectivity in the conversation.

[BlackSheep]

I actually considered switching to Hibs Pass at half time, its that bad, only reason i didn't was cos then i'd have to watch on a smaller screen etc....

Sky need more balance in the pundits they employ, even those with no real connection to the old firm are as biased as can be..... rare to see anyone disagreeing with old firm pundits either.... perhaps the presenter needs a bit more prep to allow her to challenge them?

[BILLYHIBS]

We need someone representing HIBS’ point of view

Even Michael Stewart would be better than what we already have :greengrin

[Percy Vere]

I thought the coverage from Sky was shocking today, couldn’t believe how biased it was

The advert for the game was a shocker.
Rangers flying high, not conceded, trying to stop 10 in a row...then at the end “oh yeah and their playing Hibs”.
Also thought Boyd was outrageously begrudging of any positives thrown Hibs way. Aggressive stance and attitude.

[Percy Vere]

I thought McCoist was so biased during the first half, wanting every Hibernian player booked. Every Rangers challenge was ‘accidental’!

Walker was actually okay.

They did have Rob Gordon and Ryan Porteous on before the game and you could download them, so the balance was there in a different way.

Boyd was raging about Hanlon, they are clutching a straws. That shows how desperate that mob are.

Disagree. Thought Mccoist was pretty good given he was a Rangers player and manager. Said lots of good things about Hibs players and Hibs play.
Boyd was a disgrace, you could see he was seething most of the time.
Walker did his best to bring some balance.

[JeMeSouviens]

You could change the thread title to “balanced analysis missing from Scottish football coverage since the dawn of time.”

It’s always been the same, Huns (the vast majority of yesterday’s viewers) can’t stand anything other than perma-fawning about how great they are or how hard done by they are or both at once.

[Eyrie]

Sky Sports - Boyd's analysis is to whine about an offside.

Sportscene - Stewart analyses how the official got it wrong using just two frames.

[seanshow]

Apart from Doidge getting brought down for a penalty.
Nisbet getting straight arm punched in the face as Boyler cuts the ball back for the goal.
Arfield taking a poor touch in the box and going over the ball on Newell for a penalty.
Defoe elbowing Boyle in the face 90+ mins.
and the grumpy striker who's hair has slipped off to one side kicking out at Porteous.

...it was well balanced. :rolleyes:

[brog]

The tone was set an hour before the game when the presenter in the Sky studio passed us over to Luke Shanley to preview Hearts Rangers!! Im sure several on here know Luke so could drop a word & I'll do likewise with my Sky contact.

[BILLYHIBS]

Disagree. Thought Mccoist was pretty good given he was a Rangers player and manager. Said lots of good things about Hibs players and Hibs play.
Boyd was a disgrace, you could see he was seething most of the time.
Walker did his best to bring some balance.
This

[The_Exile]

Noticed that too, what is going on with Boyd? Why is he so blatantly angry and aggressive all the time? It can be over the most ordinary thing too, the guy just seems to be constantly on edge and ready to explode. He will give himself a heart attack, he will be a big points scorer on my celebrity death list next year.

[aljo7-0]

Noticed that too, what is going on with Boyd? Why is he so blatantly angry and aggressive all the time? It can be over the most ordinary thing too, the guy just seems to be constantly on edge and ready to explode. He will give himself a heart attack, he will be a big points scorer on my celebrity death list next year.
Imagine the anger that would come out if they ever got Alan McGregor as a pundit. Angriest man for no reason I've ever seen on a pitch

[Seveno]

Noticed that too, what is going on with Boyd? Why is he so blatantly angry and aggressive all the time? It can be over the most ordinary thing too, the guy just seems to be constantly on edge and ready to explode. He will give himself a heart attack, he will be a big points scorer on my celebrity death list next year.

I think that, either by choice or design, Boyd has been given the role of the stirrer. He deliberately makes the controversial statement to get a debate going. Show business rather than objective analysis.

[Carheenlea]

I like the Hibs TV coverage. Hibs minded commentators and guests a far better option than watching Sky Or any other broadcaster which goes into full Old Firm post-mortem mode at at dropped points by their favoured two.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

If you’re looking for balanced commentary / punditry for Hibs against the uglies has Sky ever Been the place to go?

Maybe given the link up in future the option to switch to Hibs commentary would be a better option.

The radio silence between the first and second goals of the match was goalden.

The onscreen seethe from Boyd was incredible - I tweeted as much (and that it was not pleasant watching for kids or a good example) and noted that when they came back to Boyd next time you could see that he was checking himself a bit more and was uncomfortable with it.

It would be funny to see punditry if an Aberdeen (Fergie) style challenge To the OF appeared - just to see the looks on their faces.

[givescotlandfreedom]

The tone was set an hour before the game when the presenter in the Sky studio passed us over to Luke Shanley to preview Hearts Rangers!! Im sure several on here know Luke so could drop a word & I'll do likewise with my Sky contact.

I don't know how scripted the interview questions were but he was asking Jack Ross if Hibs were fortunate with the officials but totally ignored what Rangers got away with. Of course Gerrard wasn't asked the reverse question and anything like our own elbowing claims and potential penalty were ignored.
It might as well have been Chick Young.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Would love it if the wheels came off the wagon of Rangers attempt to prevent 10-in-a-row. Would leave a trail of desolation and shellshocked muppets on and off telly as the penny drops and the asterisk debate re-ignites (the only crumb of comfort)

[Green_one]

The answer is easy. Do what I did months ago and ditch Sky. You will feel a lot better and have more cash. There is little value and less quality in their football offerings.

Basically Rangers are outraged every time they lose points and the media create a narrative for them to feel better about. Whenever they drop points they know that 10 in a row is a step closer. Wait until later in the season and the panic sets in.

[The Rebel]

Sky Sports - Boyd's analysis is to whine about an offside.

Sportscene - Stewart analyses how the official got it wrong using just two frames.


Sky Sports review of Boyle’s offside position was poor. From all the replays showed it was so clear to me that the reason the assistant ref struggled to spot it was that Boyle was moving back into an onside position a fraction of a second after the ball was played. It was so quick and his arced run meant that 3 or so defenders were goalside in the blink of an eye.

It was frustrating that no one offered that explanation on the Sky coverage. They did acknowledge it was difficult but the direction of movement from Boyle seemed obvious at the time. BBC picked up on it with Michael Stewart’s analysis on Sportscene as you say.

[ScottB]

It was funny, Boyd was desperate not to seem complimentary to Hibs, so we got bizarre lines like ‘that was a good shot from a Hibs perspective’ as opposed to just saying it was a good shot, like that might get his Rangers fan card torn up.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Sky are under no obligation to offer a fair and balanced view of the match. They’re a commercial station and will pander to their perceived biggest audience. No team outside the uglies will get a fair hearing on Sky and ironically enough both of them will see the coverage as biased against them too.

[Carheenlea]

Sky Sports review of Boyle’s offside position was poor. From all the replays showed it was so clear to me that the reason the assistant ref struggled to spot it was that Boyle was moving back into an onside position a fraction of a second after the ball was played. It was so quick and his arced run meant that 3 or so defenders were goalside in the blink of an eye.

It was frustrating that no one offered that explanation on the Sky coverage. They did acknowledge it was difficult but the direction of movement from Boyle seemed obvious at the time. BBC picked up on it with Michael Stewart’s analysis on Sportscene as you say.

Michael Stewart defended the linesman’s misjudged call during the rerun on Sportscene by highlighting the angle of run and fraction of a second he was offside. No conspiracy’s or vilifying of officials - just a tight call that was probably not visible to the naked eye in real time. It’s often argued that the benefit of the doubt should be with attacking player so don’t really see it being of any big deal.

[brog]

Michael Stewart defended the linesman’s misjudged call during the rerun on Sportscene by highlighting the angle of run and fraction of a second he was offside. No conspiracy’s or vilifying of officials - just a tight call that was probably not visible to the naked eye in real time. It’s often argued that the benefit of the doubt should be with attacking player so don’t really see it being of any big deal.


Interestingly not one Rangers player appealed for offside!!

[Brightside]

Unless its analysis of Pies I wouldnt bother what Kris Boyd ever says.

[I_Love_Latapy]

Michael Stewart defended the linesman’s misjudged call during the rerun on Sportscene by highlighting the angle of run and fraction of a second he was offside. No conspiracy’s or vilifying of officials - just a tight call that was probably not visible to the naked eye in real time. It’s often argued that the benefit of the doubt should be with attacking player so don’t really see it being of any big deal.

Spot on.

Understand that Sky need to focus on / pander to their largest market .... but is it really old fashioned to hope that a wee smidge of journalistic integrity might make them at least try?