Official Site: STEPHEN McGINN COMPLETES MOVE

[MWHIBBIES]

You can improve the overall team or squad at least by having cover and competition.

In any case you were saying even if he did well you wouldn’t be happy with signings like that.

Signings that do well are exactly what we should be happy with.

I don’t think anyone is saying this is going to be signing of the season but the other way it is a bit odd to be unhappy about bringing in some cheap back up. There’s really no particular downside to it.

Of course there is a downside, same as there was a downside to other backups signed. They cost a signing fee, wages etc that could go elsewhere. If he contributes, great. If he doesn't, wasted. I don't think it's a model we should be going for. Old guys who's best days are long gone (Watford spell being his best days, many years ago) to come in as backup. A younger player of similar ability would be so much better. I'd be surprised if he contributed more than Whittaker and we released him.

[JimBHibees]

No. If he's a good signing, I'll be delighted. I won't be delighted if we are regularly signing players of this type, though. Hopefully a rarity.

A good signing is a good signing whatever type.

[Juniper Greens]

What the Hamilton and St Mirren Covid acres have showed us is that it might well be a squad game this season. As such. Pretty delighted to get another experienced proven pro into the squad

[superfurryhibby]

Good signing. He's played at a good standard and adds depth to an area of the squad where we are lacking.

[Andy74]

Of course there is a downside, same as there was a downside to other backups signed. They cost a signing fee, wages etc that could go elsewhere. If he contributes, great. If he doesn't, wasted. I don't think it's a model we should be going for. Old guys who's best days are long gone (Watford spell being his best days, many years ago) to come in as backup. A younger player of similar ability would be so much better. I'd be surprised if he contributed more than Whittaker and we released him.

If you don’t think he is very good why would you want a younger version who would definitely cost us more and would, if you are right and they don’t contribute, we’d be stuck with longer?

It isn’t exactly a model we follow for every signing is it? As a short term thing in this environment it is sensible enough. When you add in that Ross clearly trusts him and his input it is frankly a bit baffling why anyone could get particularly negative about it.

An old guy at 31? Not really.

[The Count]

Good signing. He's played at a good standard and adds depth to an area of the squad where we are lacking.

Agree lets hope we are right and all the Doubting Thomas's are wrong.Time will tell but this place is so full of negativity from the usual suspects.Lets give the guy s chance for Christ sake.

[MWHIBBIES]

A good signing is a good signing whatever type.

Yes. But think of the players over the last 5 years we've signed who have been good. How many were this type? Maybe McGregor. Maybe Fontaine.

Then look at the ones who were young, raw, talented, energetic, could improve. Significantly outweighs anything else.

We have enough midfielders who can contribute here and there. Who can cover this position or that one. It's a real quality player we need and are hopefully focused on getting. Mcginn would make sense as a cheap option when our team was sorted and we have extra money for a body. I don't think we are there yet.

[Smartie]

Right, and since everyone is saying he is a backup, he doesn't improve the team, does he?

The type of signing we should be looking for is ones that we need, can take us forward, are wanted by others. You know, like Mccrorie, or Nisbit, or Gogic, Doidge.

I don't think this is the type we should be going after when we desperately need a quality player in that role. That's all.

Did you see the Aberdeen game the other week?

Do you not think McGinn would have walked into that midfield and improved it?

I accept you're demanding high standards and you want to improve our first XI - so do I, and that's why I'll be miffed our business is finished here. I don't think it is though.

McGinn will play a part - not necessarily a 90 minutes every week part. Last season we ended up getting a lot more out of Whittaker than we had the previous 2 seasons, once we realised how best to use him and keep him injury free. McGinn might actually be able to offer us more being called upon occasionally rather than being a first pick every week.

I'm not seeing the downside here. We've signed a squad player. Every club needs squad players. If he forces his way in and earns a bigger role then even better. Ross will have seen this guy at close quarters, sees how he is relative to our current players and will have been able to decide exactly whether or not this is a justifiable addition - and has clearly decided based on that that he is. I'm fine with that.

[JimBHibees]

If you don’t think he is very good why would you want a younger version who would definitely cost us more and would, if you are right and they don’t contribute, we’d be stuck with longer?

It isn’t exactly a model we follow for every signing is it? As a short term thing in this environment it is sensible enough. When you add in that Ross clearly trusts him and his input it is frankly a bit baffling why anyone could get particularly negative about it.

An old guy at 31? Not really.

Can't disagree a kind of no lose signing. Capable and experienced who may do a job if he doesn't nothing really lost and he will probably be a good influence both in training and in dressing room. Not really worth the angst.

[MWHIBBIES]

If you don’t think he is very good why would you want a younger version who would definitely cost us more and would, if you are right and they don’t contribute, we’d be stuck with longer?

It isn’t exactly a model we follow for every signing is it? As a short term thing in this environment it is sensible enough. When you add in that Ross clearly trusts him and his input it is frankly a bit baffling why anyone could get particularly negative about it.

An old guy at 31? Not really.

I guess we'll see. As I've said, he gets my full support.

[MWHIBBIES]

Did you see the Aberdeen game the other week?

Do you not think McGinn would have walked into that midfield and improved it?

I accept you're demanding high standards and you want to improve our first XI - so do I, and that's why I'll be miffed our business is finished here. I don't think it is though.

McGinn will play a part - not necessarily a 90 minutes every week part. Last season we ended up getting a lot more out of Whittaker than we had the previous 2 seasons, once we realised how best to use him and keep him injury free. McGinn might actually be able to offer us more being called upon occasionally rather than being a first pick every week.

I'm not seeing the downside here. We've signed a squad player. Every club needs squad players. If he forces his way in and earns a bigger role then even better. Ross will have seen this guy at close quarters, sees how he is relative to our current players and will have been able to decide exactly whether or not this is a justifiable addition - and has clearly decided based on that that he is. I'm fine with that.

On what I've seen, I do not think he would've improved us against Aberdeen, no. If he was good enough to improve us that much, we wouldn't be signing him after 7 games.

[Brightside]

This getting to 9 pages is peak .Net Well done everyone.

[BoomtownHibees]

I guess we'll see. As I've said, he gets my full support.

Unless he reads your posts on here

[MWHIBBIES]

This getting to 9 pages is peak .Net Well done everyone.

People having a discussion about football really isn't peak .net anymore.

Absolutely nothing wrong with discussing the merits of a signing.

[MWHIBBIES]

Unless he reads your posts on here

Probably gets worse from his missus than I've said on here. Nothing personal, I just think there is reason to question this signing, that is literally it.

[Brightside]

People having a discussion about football really isn't peak .net anymore.

Absolutely nothing wrong with discussing the merits of a signing.

Sorry peak. .MHHIBBIES :greengrin

[Vault Boy]

Yeah so welcome to the club, Stephen.

Glad that your mum and dad don't have to choose which son's game they have to miss anymore. One heads to England, one to ER. 💚

[SideBurns]

We all dream of a team full of McGinns...

[bigwheel]

I trust Jack Ross addition of a player he knows well. A good experienced pro is a welcome addition to the squad for me.

Clearly there are some on here that can’t wait to write their first after match “waste of money” posts about him, but for me he is a good experienced addition that will help on and off the field.


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[Archie70]

In a season where we will suffer the usual injuries and suspensions but also the unknown impact of covid 19, testing, quarantining against a back drop of no fans and reduced income then signing an experienced pro who knows the league, as a pool player makes absolute sense. I actually think we may need to rely on other similar type players to get us through the season. We could still be ravaged by covid and players of this type could prove vital. We need a squad, a pool, it cant all be first team signings. St Mirren team on Saturday was the perfect example how part of your team can be affected. Let's get behind him and cheer him on if and when required.

[MWHIBBIES]

I trust Jack Ross addition of a player he knows well. A good experienced pro is a welcome addition to the squad for me.

Clearly there are some on here that can’t wait to write their first after match “waste of money” posts about him, but for me he is a good experienced addition that will help on and off the field.


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That won't be happening by me at all. As I've said, probably 10 times now, it is possible and reasonable to have reservations about a signing and still give them full support. I hope he does brilliantly and I get hit with the usual witty replies on here.

[G B Young]

Seems a solid enough signing. Guy's got a strong CV. It's a welcome from me.

[Shrekko]

That won't be happening by me at all. As I've said, probably 10 times now, it is possible and reasonable to have reservations about a signing and still give them full support. I hope he does brilliantly and I get hit with the usual whitty replies on here.

That's good you'll give him full support. You quite often find people are determined to be right about a player they've written off without kicking a ball in a Hibs top....

For me he's always looked good when i've watched him and you tend to find McGinn's have balls.... something we often lack with our players.

[kaimendhibs]

Glad he's signed. Solid player from what I've seen in the past. If he's good enough for Jack Ross he's good enough for me.

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[jacomo]

What the Hamilton and St Mirren Covid acres have showed us is that it might well be a squad game this season. As such. Pretty delighted to get another experienced proven pro into the squad


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[Centre Hawf]

I'm fine with this signing especially as many suggested we need a squad and people to cover. Stephen seems to fit that bill and Ross knows him well, I agree that his wage probably isn't anywhere near what Newell or Allan or on as well.

My main concern is that he hasn't played for a while, and he's coming off the back of a few injuries. What type of player he will be when on the pitch remains to be seen still. I trust Jack Ross but I do half expect us to continue our business and grab another starting midfielder potentially.

[AlbertK86]

We are 2nd in the league in the middle of the biggest financial crisis to ever hit the game. Cool your jets. Hibs have given Ross good backing in the current climate yet a few posters are really upset we have missed out on one or two signings to cash-rich Aberdeen. From a level-headed perspective, Hibs have done really well this window so far. This is a low-risk and low-cost signing.

Very well said that man


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[AlbertK86]

Totally get that, but why has it taken this amount of time for Mcginn to get signed up? We are struggling to get someone, and he's struggling to find a club.

Maybe to show he was completely over his injury


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[FilipinoHibs]

Welcome Stephen McGinn. I am sure you will bring the same determination as your brothers and no little skill and leadership.

[JOD]

As Lenny said to John after our 2-0 defeat in paisley quote John when I came to this club everyone told me you were the best player here. After tonight son you ain't even the best in your family.
Welcome Stephen.

[Big90inOz]

Good to have him on board, if he has the tenacity and mental strength of his brothers he will go well. He may just be the battler we need in certain games, him and Gogic in the middle to allow the " flair" players more freedom.

[OsloHibs]

Meh.

[JimBHibees]

As Lenny said to John after our 2-0 defeat in paisley quote John when I came to this club everyone told me you were the best player here. After tonight son you ain't even the best in your family.
Welcome Stephen.

That is a brilliant quote. :not worth

[JimBHibees]

Good to have him on board, if he has the tenacity and mental strength of his brothers he will go well. He may just be the battler we need in certain games, him and Gogic in the middle to allow the " flair" players more freedom.

Agree.

[murray26]

Solid signing but I can see why people aren’t jumping for joy.. we thought we had McCrorie in the bag but ended up with Stephen .. he’s not going to push us on the way McCrorie could have.. anyway good luck and welcome to Hibernian Stephen.

[Northernhibee]

Come to think of it,

One McGinn in your team = one Scottish cup in a season
This year we have two McGinns and we have two Scottish cups to compete for...

:hyper

[jacomo]

Come to think of it,

One McGinn in your team = one Scottish cup in a season
This year we have two McGinns and we have two Scottish cups to compete for...

:hyper


Plus the league of course...

I guess we’d need the McGinn trio to do the treble though.

[Since452]

Can't have too many hungry players with a good attitude in the squad. The fact he's trained with us for a while and won himself a contract speaks volumes about his character. That was never really in question with him being a McGinn though.

[superfurryhibby]

In a season where we will suffer the usual injuries and suspensions but also the unknown impact of covid 19, testing, quarantining against a back drop of no fans and reduced income then signing an experienced pro who knows the league, as a pool player makes absolute sense. I actually think we may need to rely on other similar type players to get us through the season. We could still be ravaged by covid and players of this type could prove vital. We need a squad, a pool, it cant all be first team signings. St Mirren team on Saturday was the perfect example how part of your team can be affected. Let's get behind him and cheer him on if and when required.

This sums up where I'm at with McGinn coming in. It baffles me how anyone who actually supports Hibs can't see the sense of it. I guess the very same folk would be falling over themselves to be slaughtering the club if we have a Covid situation and ended up playing untried youngsters instead. And no, Mr self -important, I'm not talking about you, but if the cap fits...….:na na:

[Keith_M]

Well that's good - because they must be working to a smaller budget than last season.
...

:agree:



And hopefully, soon clubs can get some paying customers in to games.

I think we all hope that.

:aok:

[MWHIBBIES]

This sums up where I'm at with McGinn coming in. It baffles me how anyone who actually supports Hibs can't see the sense of it. I guess the very same folk would be falling over themselves to be slaughtering the club if we have a Covid situation and ended up playing untried youngsters instead. And no, Mr self -important, I'm not talking about you, but if the cap fits...….:na na:

You can actually support Hibs and question them on things. Many people questioned why Hecky lasted so long, for example. Many people questioned out business last summer. Many people questioned things like loyalty points, the decisions of the club that led to relegation etc.

This is probably the first signing we've ever made that I've really questioned. Does that suddenly make going to games since I was 4 years old not matter?

I am one of the people questioning him coming in and also one of the biggest fans of playing young players and giving them chances on this site. I wouldn't be questioning the club at all if we had to play youngsters during a crisis, I don't think anyone in their right mind would. Many people were saying that was the route we may have to go down this season. Personally, I'd prefer that than signing guys on 1 year deals who might not even play.

It really is strange that someone cant question a signing without stuff about them not being a real supporter or other condesending stuff. No one, including myself, has said anything unreasonable about the signing in this thread.

Don't really know what the last sentence of your post is about, bit strange I have to say.

[J-C]

This sums up where I'm at with McGinn coming in. It baffles me how anyone who actually supports Hibs can't see the sense of it. I guess the very same folk would be falling over themselves to be slaughtering the club if we have a Covid situation and ended up playing untried youngsters instead. And no, Mr self -important, I'm not talking about you, but if the cap fits...….:na na:

😂😂

[Hibiza]

Welcome Stephen , all the best.

[Since452]

All three McGinn brothers winning the Scottish Cup with Hibs is a fantastic achievement 😉

[1875Sean]

Sorry not sure if it’s posted anywhere else but below is a good article on how McGinn will help out on the coaching side of things too



https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/why-hibs-signing-stephen-mcginn-shrewd-piece-business-2974304

[KeithTheHibby]

The jury was out when we signed Paul McGinn in January. Guess what he is our number one right-back and one of the first names picked by JR each week.

I am not saying Stephen McGinn is going to have the same impact however I trust our manager at this weird time. Plus there is something in the McGinn DNA which suggests to me he may have a pretty good season and play a big part between now and end of May.

[greiggy]

How many times is it said we’re lacking leaders on the pitch. S McG was St Mirren’s captain and Jack Ross thinks highly of him. Good enough for me.


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