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CMurdoch
02-09-2020, 04:27 PM
Horgans departure leaves only 4 players out of contract at the end of this season. They are, along with age at time of contract expiry.

1. Marciano (31)
2. Newell (28)
3. Stevenson (33)
4. McGinn (30)

Who is staying and who is going?

Given Stevenson is the oldest and is currently on the bench he must be least likely to be offered another contract, however, given his history and continuing availability I wouldn't be totally surprise to see him offered another year but might decide a 2 year contract elsewhere suits him better.

Marciano - Hibs will want to keep him if his wage demands are sensible but no doubt his agent will try to get him a bigger wedge elsewhere. However, in his 30's, Hibs is the 1st club outside his home country that he has made it and set down roots so might decide the family are staying put unless there is a great deal elsewhere.
I would like him to stay. Wonderful shot stopper with hands and feet. Downside, iffy distribution and like dracula, scared of crosses. All things considered he fits the bill at Hibs and we would struggle for better.
Speak to him now and sign him up before the pandemic is sorted.

Newell - this one will divide the camp. I like the guy composed, good on the ball, aware, good passer, tackles, takes free kicks and corners. Lots of folks criticised him on Sunday but i reckon he's a keeper at our level. May want to go back down south again. Will depend what is available for him down there. Think Ross likes the guy and will want to keep him if he is on sensible money.

McGinn - I thought he was a really average journeyman type last season but this season in his new position he has been brilliant. Didn't cost us much and is doing a great job. Ross likes the guy and his wage demands will be sensible. The new McGinn could well be hanging around.

Jim44
02-09-2020, 04:36 PM
Horgans departure leaves only 4 players out of contract at the end of this season. They are, along with age at time of contract expiry.

1. Marciano (31)
2. Newell (28)
3. Stevenson (33)
4. McGinn (30)

Who is staying and who is going?

Given Stevenson is the oldest and is currently on the bench he must be least likely to be offered another contract, however, given his history and continuing availability I wouldn't be totally surprise to see him offered another year but might decide a 2 year contract elsewhere suits him better.

Marciano - Hibs will want to keep him if his wage demands are sensible but no doubt his agent will try to get him a bigger wedge elsewhere. However, in his 30's, Hibs is the 1st club outside his home country that he has made it and set down roots so might decide the family are staying put unless there is a great deal elsewhere.
I would like him to stay. Wonderful shot stopper with hands and feet. Downside, iffy distribution and like dracula, scared of crosses. All things considered he fits the bill at Hibs and we would struggle for better.
Speak to him now and sign him up before the pandemic is sorted.

Newell - this one will divide the camp. I like the guy composed, good on the ball, aware, good passer, tackles, takes free kicks and corners. Lots of folks criticised him on Sunday but i reckon he's a keeper at our level. May want to go back down south again. Will depend what is available for him down there. Think Ross likes the guy and will want to keep him if he is on sensible money.

McGinn - I thought he was a really average journeyman type last season but this season he has been brilliant in his new position. Didn't cost us much and is doing a great job. Ross likes the guy and his wage demands will be sensible. The new McGinn could well be hanging around.

I’m happy to field Newell but I think he plays too square and too often with his back to the opponents’ goal. I think we could do better but wouldn’t be too concerned if JR decides to stick with him.

CMurdoch
02-09-2020, 04:41 PM
I’m happy to field Newell but I think he plays too square and too often with his back to the opponents’ goal. I think we could do better but wouldn’t be too concerned if JR decides to stick with him.

A lot of folk slated him on Sunday but I thought he did ok. I need to watch him closer next game.
It's the usual thing in sport, you play as well as you are allowed to and on Sunday a lot of our flair guys were shut down by Aberdeen after the goal.

The Modfather
02-09-2020, 04:42 PM
Horgans departure leaves only 4 players out of contract at the end of this season. They are, along with age at time of contract expiry.

1. Marciano (31)
2. Newell (28)
3. Stevenson (33)
4. McGinn (30)

Who is staying and who is going?

Given Stevenson is the oldest and is currently on the bench he must be least likely to be offered another contract, however, given his history and continuing availability I wouldn't be totally surprise to see him offered another year but might decide a 2 year contract elsewhere suits him better.

Marciano - Hibs will want to keep him if his wage demands are sensible but no doubt his agent will try to get him a bigger wedge elsewhere. However, in his 30's, Hibs is the 1st club outside his home country that he has made it and set down roots so might decide the family are staying put unless there is a great deal elsewhere.
I would like him to stay. Wonderful shot stopper with hands and feet. Downside, iffy distribution and like dracula, scared of crosses. All things considered he fits the bill at Hibs and we would struggle for better.
Speak to him now and sign him up before the pandemic is sorted.

Newell - this one will divide the camp. I like the guy composed, good on the ball, aware, good passer, tackles, takes free kicks and corners. Lots of folks criticised him on Sunday but i reckon he's a keeper at our level. May want to go back down south again. Will depend what is available for him down there. Think Ross likes the guy and will want to keep him if he is on sensible money.

McGinn - I thought he was a really average journeyman type last season but this season in his new position he has been brilliant. Didn't cost us much and is doing a great job. Ross likes the guy and his wage demands will be sensible. The new McGinn could well be hanging around.

I’d give Marciano & McGinn another year or two, and would be happy enough to give Stevenson and Newell another year as squad players.

Less so Marciano and McGinn, but wouldn’t be overly fussed if any or all were to leave at the end of the season either. All good players to varying degrees but none irreplaceable IMO.

hibee_girl
02-09-2020, 04:43 PM
Horgans departure leaves only 4 players out of contract at the end of this season. They are, along with age at time of contract expiry.

1. Marciano (31)
2. Newell (28)
3. Stevenson (33)
4. McGinn (30)

Who is staying and who is going?

Given Stevenson is the oldest and is currently on the bench he must be least likely to be offered another contract, however, given his history and continuing availability I wouldn't be totally surprise to see him offered another year but might decide a 2 year contract elsewhere suits him better.

Marciano - Hibs will want to keep him if his wage demands are sensible but no doubt his agent will try to get him a bigger wedge elsewhere. However, in his 30's, Hibs is the 1st club outside his home country that he has made it and set down roots so might decide the family are staying put unless there is a great deal elsewhere.
I would like him to stay. Wonderful shot stopper with hands and feet. Downside, iffy distribution and like dracula, scared of crosses. All things considered he fits the bill at Hibs and we would struggle for better.
Speak to him now and sign him up before the pandemic is sorted.

Newell - this one will divide the camp. I like the guy composed, good on the ball, aware, good passer, tackles, takes free kicks and corners. Lots of folks criticised him on Sunday but i reckon he's a keeper at our level. May want to go back down south again. Will depend what is available for him down there. Think Ross likes the guy and will want to keep him if he is on sensible money.

McGinn - I thought he was a really average journeyman type last season but this season in his new position he has been brilliant. Didn't cost us much and is doing a great job. Ross likes the guy and his wage demands will be sensible. The new McGinn could well be hanging around.

I’m not ready to think about that 😫

Especially if we still aren’t back in stadiums to give him a proper goodbye!

CMurdoch
02-09-2020, 04:47 PM
I’d give Marciano & McGinn another year or two, and would be happy enough to give Stevenson and Newell another year as squad players.

Less so Marciano and McGinn, but wouldn’t be overly fussed if any or all were to leave at the end of the season either. All good players to varying degrees but none irreplaceable IMO.

If I could only keep one, I would keep Marciano.
The others could be replaced but in the case of McGinn the price of replacement would, I suspect, far exceed what they are paying him, which is another part of the contract equation.

B.H.F.C
02-09-2020, 04:49 PM
Stevenson is an interesting one. Whilst he will always have some kind of association with the club, I can’t see us offering a Gray/McGregor type contract. He’s not out of the team due to a lack of fitness, or had problems like those two, so come the end of his contract he’ll be able to go away and play somewhere for a couple of years (if we don’t offer him anything). Suppose a lot can happen between now and next summer though.

The Modfather
02-09-2020, 04:49 PM
A lot of folk slated him on Sunday but I thought he did ok. I need to watch him closer next game.
It's the usual thing in sport, you play as well as you are allowed to and on Sunday a lot of our flair guys were shut down by Aberdeen after the goal.

I think the issue is that “doing ok” isn’t enough. Since he’s been played centrally Newell has been part of a midfield that’s been imbalanced and rarely dominates the opposition. That’s clearly not solely down to him, but I think he’s as much a part of the midfield issues as any other midfield IMO.

B.H.F.C
02-09-2020, 04:50 PM
If I could only keep one, I would keep Marciano.
The others could be replaced but in the case of McGinn the price of replacement would, I suspect, far exceed what they are paying him, which is another part of the contract equation.

McGinn has surprised me this season. I could see us extending his contract by a year in the not too distant future.

Sir David Gray
02-09-2020, 04:51 PM
Marciano and McGinn on new contracts, I would probably let Newell leave. He's not as bad as I first thought when he first joined but overall hasn't done enough for me.

Lewis Stevenson should be given one of these contracts for life that were given to David Gray and Darren McGregor, if he wants one.

danhibees1875
02-09-2020, 04:57 PM
Marciano and McGinn on new contracts, I would probably let Newell leave. He's not as bad as I first thought when he first joined but overall hasn't done enough for me.

Lewis Stevenson should be given one of these contracts for life that were given to David Gray and Darren McGregor, if he wants one.

I think I'd be inclined to agree with this. Although I wasn't sure about Stevenson - depends how much he wants to play I guess and how much time he'll get here.

Newall will get his share of chances if we don't bring any new CMs in and will have a chance to earn a contract but at the moment I don't think he's done enough without him having done too badly either.

MyJo
02-09-2020, 05:37 PM
Marciano seems settled in Edinburgh so I can see him signing an extension

Stevenson falls into the same category as Gray and McGregor when they signed their deals last time in the knowledge that they would transition into coaching or ambassador roles when their playing time comes to an end. I would expect us to offer something similar to Lewis as I think he has another couple of years left in him although it does look like it will be as a squad player rather than a starter. Only thing that might be a consideration for him would be going to a team like Dunfermline or Raith Rovers where he would still likely be a starting player and much closer to home for him.

Newell is a decent enough player so wouldn’t be adverse to him signing a new deal but equally wouldn’t be annoyed if he did leave at the end of the season. I get the impression JR likes his midfielders a little bit less laid-back than Joe and if we can get a decent signing or two in that area of the pitch he might fancy moving on if his game time is going to be limited.

If we aren’t already discussing another couple of years on McGinn’s deal I would be disappointed and can’t see him being allowed to leave given how well he has done since signing

Eyrie
02-09-2020, 05:40 PM
Marciano would be the priority, followed by McGinn as I doubt Gray or McGregor will feature much in season 21/22.

I'd give Stevenson two more years as he and Doig give us a good choice at LB.

We need to rebalance the midfield and Newell is the one that's out of contract.

The 90+2
02-09-2020, 05:48 PM
I would see how the season pans out before offering any contacts. There could be a lot better alternatives out there.

jeffers
02-09-2020, 06:27 PM
Marciano and McGinn Deffo new contracts for me and I’d like Lewis to get another year. Newell I’d let go, he won’t have come up here for peanuts and I just don’t see that he offers anywhere near enough.

LeithMike
02-09-2020, 06:36 PM
Marciano makes saves. We've had a number of keepers over the years who dont. Definite keeper - long term contract.

McGinn - definitely worth another contract given his versatility and competence. Plus he's a McGinn.

Stevenson - keep on if we can although probably not a first teamer.

Newell - fine if you have lots of time on the ball but struggles when teams press. Prefer him at LWB. Will need to earn a further contract.

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dp00
02-09-2020, 06:39 PM
Marciano we should try and keep, him and family seem to enjoy it here so that might make difference

Lewis I think should be offered similar deal to Gray & McGregor and of not he would be within his rights to feel annoyed however might fancy getting first team footie

McGinn - defo get an extra year has been playing well

Newall- think it will depend how he performs between now and Christmas , I’m undecided on him but manager must fancy him as he has been starting


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NC1875
02-09-2020, 06:53 PM
Is Stevenson not a Raith fan or have I just made that up ? Can see him ending up there for a couple seasons.

The Harp Awakes
02-09-2020, 07:06 PM
A lot of folk slated him on Sunday but I thought he did ok. I need to watch him closer next game.
It's the usual thing in sport, you play as well as you are allowed to and on Sunday a lot of our flair guys were shut down by Aberdeen after the goal.

i think technically Newell is ok, but I'm not sure he's suited to the Scottish game. Needs to be far more aggressive as he's so easily brushed off the ball. Always looking to slow down the game, and wants more time on the ball. You don't get much time in Scottish football as there's always a player breathing down your neck. Needs to adjust.

tonyrougier123
02-09-2020, 07:29 PM
I think the issue is that “doing ok” isn’t enough. Since he’s been played centrally Newell has been part of a midfield that’s been imbalanced and rarely dominates the opposition. That’s clearly not solely down to him, but I think he’s as much a part of the midfield issues as any other midfield IMO.
Joe looked like a quarterback against Livvy ,taking the ball from deep pinging it about whipping in crosses,against the sheep he should have played left back in the changing room he was that bad.
Too much of an enigma for me Newell.

Ronniekirk
02-09-2020, 07:33 PM
I’m happy to field Newell but I think he plays too square and too often with his back to the opponents’ goal. I think we could do better but wouldn’t be too concerned if JR decides to stick with him.

If we are serious about competing with Aberdeen fir third place we need to be ruthless Has improved but fir me we need better quality


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J-C
02-09-2020, 08:50 PM
Horgans departure leaves only 4 players out of contract at the end of this season. They are, along with age at time of contract expiry.

1. Marciano (31)
2. Newell (28)
3. Stevenson (33)
4. McGinn (30)

Who is staying and who is going?

Given Stevenson is the oldest and is currently on the bench he must be least likely to be offered another contract, however, given his history and continuing availability I wouldn't be totally surprise to see him offered another year but might decide a 2 year contract elsewhere suits him better.

Marciano - Hibs will want to keep him if his wage demands are sensible but no doubt his agent will try to get him a bigger wedge elsewhere. However, in his 30's, Hibs is the 1st club outside his home country that he has made it and set down roots so might decide the family are staying put unless there is a great deal elsewhere.
I would like him to stay. Wonderful shot stopper with hands and feet. Downside, iffy distribution and like dracula, scared of crosses. All things considered he fits the bill at Hibs and we would struggle for better.
Speak to him now and sign him up before the pandemic is sorted.

Newell - this one will divide the camp. I like the guy composed, good on the ball, aware, good passer, tackles, takes free kicks and corners. Lots of folks criticised him on Sunday but i reckon he's a keeper at our level. May want to go back down south again. Will depend what is available for him down there. Think Ross likes the guy and will want to keep him if he is on sensible money.

McGinn - I thought he was a really average journeyman type last season but this season in his new position he has been brilliant. Didn't cost us much and is doing a great job. Ross likes the guy and his wage demands will be sensible. The new McGinn could well be hanging around.


Marciano, good age for a keeper, wife loves it here, sign him up.
Lewis, end part of his career, get him coaching the kids.
Newell, average and we need better.
McGinn, solid enough but he's at an age where I'd like to see us get someone younger in to push on for the future.

hibee-boys
02-09-2020, 10:25 PM
Marciano - we can't afford a better shot stopper, if he was good with his feet and at crosses he'd be plying his trade elsewhere - new contract please

Stevenson - another year as cover and help develop Doig.

Mcginn - solid in defense, comfortable on the ball, can break from the back. Been very impresses with him, deserves a new contract now.

Newell - has shown glimpses of better form but just doesn't influence games as much as I would expect him to do. Neat and tidy enough on the ball but thats about it. Not what we need in CM.

Borderhibbie76
04-09-2020, 07:24 AM
For me id deffo be looking to keep Rocky, Lewis and McGinn but Newell is a NO from me. Not what we need in CM in my opinion and shouldn't be a starter - the reason he is at moment is due to lack of options/signings in that area of the park and something we need to address urgently

Gloucester Hibs
04-09-2020, 07:55 AM
For me id deffo be looking to keep Rocky, Lewis and McGinn but Newell is a NO from me. Not what we need in CM in my opinion and shouldn't be a starter - the reason he is at moment is due to lack of options/signings in that area of the park and something we need to address urgently

Think Newell looked ok as a stand-in left back post-winter break last season but you’re right we need far better in the CM positions. With Josh Doig now making the LB spot his own I wouldn’t be rushing to extend his contract.

Brightside
04-09-2020, 08:08 AM
I think Rocky is already close to an extension. Lewis will get a year, as will McGinn. Newell is well liked by JR so I expect him to get an offer but he may try and get a Champ club back down south.