Hibernian Supporters August Contribution

[Daniel 1875]

Pleased to confirm that £21,883.29 has been handed to the club from August’s contributions, taking the total to over £75,000 since June.

There are a few reasons why the August figure is lower than July, including last month being a five week month and the scarf initiative but an average of £25,000 per month so far is a huge improvement and represents more than double the average monthly payment before lockdown.

Well done all and thanks for your continued support.

[hibbydad]

Pleased to confirm that £21,883.29 has been handed to the club from August’s contributions, taking the total to over £75,000 since June.

There are a few reasons why the August figure is lower than July, including last month being a five week month and the scarf initiative but an average of £25,000 per month so far is a huge improvement and represents more than double the average monthly payment before lockdown.

Well done all and thanks for your continued support.
It is good Daniel but we seem to have lost a bit of momentum as there is a lack of new posts about it

[Chorley Hibee]

It is good Daniel but we seem to have lost a bit of momentum as there is a lack of new posts about it

Still almost nothing from the club in terms of promotion either.

I genuinely don't understand their reluctance to absorb this under their wing.

[hulk]

Great effort and every bit helps us secure new players.

Still like to see this going up with more new members so
We can start to challenge Aberdeen and that ****ty championship
team when fighting over same players. Can’t recall anything
Recent where someone chose us over Aberdeen and must be The money that talks.

[lord bunberry]

Great effort and every bit helps us secure new players.

Still like to see this going up with more new members so
We can start to challenge Aberdeen and that ****ty championship
team when fighting over same players. Can’t recall anything
Recent where someone chose us over Aberdeen and must be The money that talks.
I agree, if we want to compete with Aberdeen and Hearts financially we need to contribute to the same or similar level that they do.

[Gerard]

I agree, if we want to compete with Aberdeen and Hearts financially we need to contribute to the same or similar level that they do.

This money is useful money for the club
The club could help promote this income stream and will as a consequence benefit from doing so with the extra donations they receive from HS
Aberdeen and Hearts have received large sums of money from wealthy fans
Perhaps Hibs need to do likewise to help attract the quality of players we require to make as best a challenge in the SPL this year and in the future

[Chorley Hibee]

This money is useful money for the club
The club could help promote this income stream and will as a consequence benefit from doing so with the extra donations they receive from HS
Aberdeen and Hearts have received large sums of money from wealthy fans
Perhaps Hibs need to do likewise to help attract the quality of players we require to make as best a challenge in the SPL this year and in the future

The club seem wholly reluctant to get involved with this and I cannot fathom why.

It seems doomed to failure unless there is significant change in the future (and I say that as a regular contributor myself).

[Keith_M]

Pleased to confirm that £21,883.29 has been handed to the club from August’s contributions, taking the total to over £75,000 since June.

There are a few reasons why the August figure is lower than July, including last month being a five week month and the scarf initiative but an average of £25,000 per month so far is a huge improvement and represents more than double the average monthly payment before lockdown.

Well done all and thanks for your continued support.



Thanks for the update.

:aok:

[hibbydad]

The club seem wholly reluctant to get involved with this and I cannot fathom why.

It seems doomed to failure unless there is significant change in the future (and I say that as a regular contributor myself).
You are right Chorley

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Maybe Aberdeens wealthy fans and the cheats wealthy fans are more into their teams than Hibernians wealthy fans are? Who knows.

Fantastic contribution from the rank and file Hibernians.

Free money for the Hibs.

[lord bunberry]

This money is useful money for the club
The club could help promote this income stream and will as a consequence benefit from doing so with the extra donations they receive from HS
Aberdeen and Hearts have received large sums of money from wealthy fans
Perhaps Hibs need to do likewise to help attract the quality of players we require to make as best a challenge in the SPL this year and in the future
I agree, but I’m not talking about the contributions from wealthy fans. Aberdeen and Hearts bring in far more from ordinary fans.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The club seem wholly reluctant to get involved with this and I cannot fathom why.

It seems doomed to failure unless there is significant change in the future (and I say that as a regular contributor myself).

absolutely. It’s insane how little they are doing to promote it when it’s free money for the club.

A couple of retweets in the last couple of months? It should be all over the website and official social media pages.

[Biggie]

Must admit, I'm on the fence with this one. Its a tricky one, yes the moneys great, but what if we buy a couple of players using these funds and the money dries up ?
Hibs strike me as risk averse, and maybe they are being overly cautious about it all as we don't want to be burdened with debt, should the funding decrease.

Hearts will come a cropper one day....their money train will grind to a halt eventually.

[Itsnoteasy]

I agree, but I’m not talking about the contributions from wealthy fans. Aberdeen and Hearts bring in far more from ordinary fans.

Its not went to well for them.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Must admit, I'm on the fence with this one. Its a tricky one, yes the moneys great, but what if we buy a couple of players using these funds and the money dries up ?
Hibs strike me as risk averse, and maybe they are being overly cautious about it all as we don't want to be burdened with debt, should the funding decrease.

Hearts will come a cropper one day....their money train will grind to a halt eventually.

Over time patterns will emerge and that can be fed into projections. X% movement out/dcreases based on current volumes. Probably less volatility in football supporters donations (possibly cut back on other things first? Who knows?

I do think Jambos have enough folks with allegiances in the usual (finance/business/legal) to help get them out of bother tho. They just hide their time and let admin take course rather than propping up an p-ing money away to then contribute under a new regime. Romanov really thought he had them by the short and curlies... and was looking to use his bargaining chip to further his business interests mefinks. Banking license in the UK? Not sure if he got that in the end?

[danhibees1875]

Must admit, I'm on the fence with this one. Its a tricky one, yes the moneys great, but what if we buy a couple of players using these funds and the money dries up ?
Hibs strike me as risk averse, and maybe they are being overly cautious about it all as we don't want to be burdened with debt, should the funding decrease.

Hearts will come a cropper one day....their money train will grind to a halt eventually.

Hibs will just need to do their best to predict that and spend accordingly with their financial projections.

We don't really have any fixed amount of money coming into the club - ST sales, league placement, cup performance, and players transfers could all vary significantly year on year. This is just more of the same, infact it is probably more stable than the other revenue streams.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Pleased to confirm that £21,883.29 has been handed to the club from August’s contributions, taking the total to over £75,000 since June.

There are a few reasons why the August figure is lower than July, including last month being a five week month and the scarf initiative but an average of £25,000 per month so far is a huge improvement and represents more than double the average monthly payment before lockdown.

Well done all and thanks for your continued support.

Trying to recall but Rod Cranston (RIP) mentioned in discussions around raising funds for the manager that at its height Club86 (which was lauded and ahead of its time) raised something like £100k in a year iirc. Be interesting to know with discounted cash flow calcs from our accountancy friends what that would look like in today’s money but I think relatively we’re doing pretty good considering the money we as supporters put into the club in other avenues will be careful greater than the late 80s - STs alone (although of course costs have risen too)

Found it : £100k in 1988 would be worth £ 283,906.90 in todays money. https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html

[Juniper Greens]

What might be a good target for HSL to publicise is for Hibs to tell them roughly how much ST revenue is down due to covid, and for us to try and plug that gap? I think we are around 1,500 tickets down at maybe £275 a pop (blended rate). That would give around £400k, which is certainly doable (if it's accurate). HSL could put a big thermometer on the homepage of their site, which shows us reaching this (or any other suitable) target

[Peevemor]

Trying to recall but Rod Cranston (RIP) mentioned in discussions around raising funds for the manager that at its height Club86 (which was lauded and ahead of its time) raised something like £100k in a year iirc. Be interesting to know with discounted cash flow calcs from our accountancy friends what that would look like in today’s money but I think relatively we’re doing pretty good considering the money we as supporters put into the club in other avenues will be careful greater than the late 80s - STs alone (although of course costs have risen too)

Membership of Club 86 was £78 per year (£6.50 per month). Say 1k members + other fund raising (dinners, etc.). £100k might be a bit on the high side.

[matty_f]

This money is useful money for the club
The club could help promote this income stream and will as a consequence benefit from doing so with the extra donations they receive from HS
Aberdeen and Hearts have received large sums of money from wealthy fans
Perhaps Hibs need to do likewise to help attract the quality of players we require to make as best a challenge in the SPL this year and in the future

Hibs haven't been doing too badly with getting money from wealthy fans Our NHS shirt 'sponsor' was only possible because fans stepped in to cover costs on it.

Graeme Mathie also hinted at deals not being financed in the traditional way when discussing signing Nisbet, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that contributions came from other areas.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Money donated figure doesn’t look like it’s been updated on the HSL website.

i know it seems a small thing but it’s little things like that ie websites not being kept up to date that continually trip up HSL. I want to be able to go on there and see continuous growth in the figures. That adds momentum and self confidence to the campaign rather than people getting disheartened.

[Daniel 1875]

Money donated figure doesn’t look like it’s been updated on the HSL website.

i know it seems a small thing but it’s little things like that ie websites not being kept up to date that continually trip up HSL. I want to be able to go on there and see continuous growth in the figures. That adds momentum and self confidence to the campaign rather than people getting disheartened.

Thanks Pagan, the figure should be updated shortly. It’s a manual input process though and not linked up with GoCardless or Stripe so it needs to be done by the volunteer who looks after the website.

[hibbydad]

Thanks Pagan, the figure should be updated shortly. It’s a manual input process though and not linked up with GoCardless or Stripe so it needs to be done by the volunteer who looks after the website.
Daniel I think the club and HSL needto launch a newpush to get more people to support this initative

[Daniel 1875]

Daniel I think the club and HSL needto launch a newpush to get more people to support this initative

Agreed - hopefully some progress on that soon.

[Yorkshire HFC]

I agree, if we want to compete with Aberdeen and Hearts financially we need to contribute to the same or similar level that they do.

I know that things change and the world moves forward, but it wasn't like this when I started following football.

Yes, the old days were rubbish, but supporting a football team used to be simple. Meet your friends, pay at the turnstiles, go home and watch the highlights of all the games on Saturday and Sunday nights and read odd snippets about Hibs in the paper during the week.

Obviously people can do what they choose - but I've always been of a mind to let the Board run the football club. I just want to watch the game - I don't have any interest in the finances of the club.

[Daniel 1875]

Daniel I think the club and HSL needto launch a newpush to get more people to support this initative

Agreed - hopefully some progress on that soon.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I know that things change and the world moves forward, but it wasn't like this when I started following football.

Yes, the old days were rubbish, but supporting a football team used to be simple. Meet your friends, pay at the turnstiles, go home and watch the highlights of all the games on Saturday and Sunday nights and read odd snippets about Hibs in the paper during the week.

Obviously people can do what they choose - but I've always been of a mind to let the Board run the football club. I just want to watch the game - I don't have any interest in the finances of the club.

I know mate but I would argue that it was fans having no interest in what was going on at board level that allowed such corruption and shady dealings to go on, and ultimately fans money being wasted at so many clubs, and some clubs even going to the wall. Ours very nearly did in 1990.

we all just want to watch our team. Unfortunately with the way things are financially in Scottish football if we want to watch a successful (and ‘successful’ is very relative for a club like Hibs) then additional money needs to be found from somewhere

[Pagan Hibernia]

Thanks Pagan, the figure should be updated shortly. It’s a manual input process though and not linked up with GoCardless or Stripe so it needs to be done by the volunteer who looks after the website.

thanks mate. Like I said it’s a small thing and I feel like a bit of an arse mentioning it but I just want the campaign to continuously move forward and not stagnate.

it also strikes me that we must be fairly close to hitting the £1 million figure since the organisation was set up. That’s another great landmark to be celebrated and publicised.

[Gerard]

thanks mate. Like I said it’s a small thing and I feel like a bit of an arse mentioning it but I just want the campaign to continuously move forward and not stagnate.

it also strikes me that we must be fairly close to hitting the £1 million figure since the organisation was set up. That’s another great landmark to be celebrated and publicised.

I and many other fans want our club to be as competitive as possible
I think HS makes a valuable contribution to that objective

[jacomo]

I agree, if we want to compete with Aberdeen and Hearts financially we need to contribute to the same or similar level that they do.


AberDNA is a membership scheme incentivised with juicy discounts. I think they even get discounts on the season ticket. So you can’t just look at the gross figure - it’s costing them revenue from other sources.

[HH81]

Well done everyone. Decent amount.

[Radium]

AberDNA is a membership scheme incentivised with juicy discounts. I think they even get discounts on the season ticket. So you can’t just look at the gross figure - it’s costing them revenue from other sources.

... sure it is subject to VAT as well


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[CropleyWasGod]

... sure it is subject to VAT as well


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If it's going directly to the club, it will be.

That's one of the reasons HS has to maintain a degree of separation.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Any word on September’s contribution?

[Vault Boy]

Any word on September’s contribution?

Just awaiting confirmation of the exact amount before it's announced on social media, should be out soon.

[Kaff]

September figure on Hibs twitter £24,022.33

Good steady figure, I'm sure that would cover 3 decenct players per month?

[Pagan Hibernia]

that’s a great sum. HSL continues to make a real difference to our club.

[Daniel 1875]

Well done again folks. With no fans through the turnstiles at Easter Road the monthly contributions are helping Jack Ross and Graeme Mathie to get on with the important job of making the team as strong as possible in these tough times.

It would be great to get up to a regular £30,000 a month - we’re not too far away from making that possible. Keep letting your friends and family know and together we can continue to make a meaningful difference to our club.

[Juniper Greens]

September figure on Hibs twitter £24,022.33

Good steady figure, I'm sure that would cover 3 decenct players per month?

Not quite. By the time you add in pension, NI and Insurance, probably around one good player. Still great though

[Kaff]

Not quite. By the time you add in pension, NI and Insurance, probably around one good player. Still great though

You're playing semantics for no reason, I said 'decent' and for me that's some one playing first team football.
I take the point about taxes but I've no doubt we've got 3 regular players costing less than £100k per year in the first team.
Anyone costing £300k is at the absolute top end for us.
I'm happy to say HSL are funding 3 decent players for Hibs, positive story

[PatHead]

You're playing semantics for no reason, I said 'decent' and for me that's some one playing first team football.
I take the point about taxes but I've no doubt we've got 3 regular players costing less than £100k per year in the first team.
Anyone costing £300k is at the absolute top end for us.
I'm happy to say HSL are funding 3 decent players for Hibs, positive story

To be fair, even one player we couldn't afford without the contributions is a massive positive. If these contributions make the difference between a signing before transfer deadline day then job done.

[Vault Boy]

https://twitter.com/hfcsupporters/status/1312059925682630664?s=19

That's the £1m milestone crossed. Well done to everybody who has contributed. 👏

[KdyHby]

Latest email from Hibs indicating that 4000 now signed up

[wallpaperman]

Latest email from Hibs indicating that 4000 now signed up

I expect that will be 4000 that have contributed at some point in the scheme’s existence, not that there are that amount currently, sadly.

if there were 4K monthly you would be talking £40k a month at a conservative estimate, we’re nowhere near that. But a far better position than we were 6 months ago.

[Vault Boy]

I expect that will be 4000 that have contributed at some point in the scheme’s existence, not that there are that amount currently, sadly.

if there were 4K monthly you would be talking £40k a month at a conservative estimate, we’re nowhere near that. But a far better position than we were 6 months ago.

Yes, it is. But it's still good news as it means more folk are joining up.

[A Hi-Bee]

We really can make a huge difference to our club, the more the better.
:thumbsup:

[Daniel 1875]

Pleased to confirm that £22,383.48 has been contributed to the club by Hibernian Supporters for the month of October. Another wonderful effort in strange times - well done all.

[linlithgowhibbie]

Pleased to confirm that £22,383.48 has been contributed to the club by Hibernian Supporters for the month of October. Another wonderful effort in strange times - well done all.

Great stuff, hopefully keep it going in an upwards trajectory too:thumbsup:

[kaimendhibs]

Good stuff [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

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[Forza Fred]

If it's going directly to the club, it will be.

That's one of the reasons HS has to maintain a degree of separation.

Why is VAt chargeable if donated direct to the club, but not if donated through HSL?

I had a thread asking bout the VAt a few days ago, but only got a couple of responses.

Can you advise?

And is this the reason the club do not get directly involved?

[Brightside]

Why is VAt chargeable if donated direct to the club, but not if donated through HSL?

I had a thread asking bout the VAt a few days ago, but only got a couple of responses.

Can you advise?

And is this the reason the club do not get directly involved?

I’m going to guess that HSL is a charity?

[CropleyWasGod]

Why is VAt chargeable if donated direct to the club, but not if donated through HSL?

I had a thread asking bout the VAt a few days ago, but only got a couple of responses.

Can you advise?

And is this the reason the club do not get directly involved?

My post was in response to someone comparing our scheme with those of Rangers and Aberdeen. In those, as there is a direct benefit to those who pay in, the amounts are subject to VAT and Corporation Tax.

When HS/HSL was set up, it was a vehicle for buying shares. Any amounts paid to the club were payments for shares, and as such not VAT-able. The same goes for FOH.

In that light,it made sense to keep things separate. However...

Now that the share purchase option has been suspended, the VAT issue is less clear-cut. VAT is a ****ing minefield, so I'm not going to claim any absolute truths here. The basic rule is that trading income is VAT-able, which then begs the question as to whether donations are trading income. There will be some case-law, or subsection of a paragraph of some law, which gives more clarity. If there isn't, HMRC will be looking closely at such schemes.

For now, though, I am not sure there is much difference between a HS donation and a private one, from a VAT point of view.

[CropleyWasGod]

I’m going to guess that HSL is a charity?

It isn't 😁

[Forza Fred]

My post was in response to someone comparing our scheme with those of Rangers and Aberdeen. In those, as there is a direct benefit to those who pay in, the amounts are subject to VAT and Corporation Tax.

When HS/HSL was set up, it was a vehicle for buying shares. Any amounts paid to the club were payments for shares, and as such no VAT-able. The same goes for FOH.

Now that the share purchase option has been suspended, the VAT issue is less clear-cut. VAT is a ****ing minefield, so I'm not going to claim any absolute truths here. The basic rule is that trading income is VAT-able, which then begs the question as to whether donations are trading income. There will be some case-law, or subsection of a paragraph of some law, which gives more clarity. If there isn't, HMRC will be looking closely at such schemes.



For now, though, I am not sure there is much difference between a HS donation and a private one, from a VAT point of view.


Thanks for the explanation.

VAT is indeed a minefield.

Not well known, but us down here in the Antipodes are NOT subject to VAT (although we have our own GST ) on purchases from the Club Shop, but due to the inability of the supplier to upgrade their software, we are needlessly charged the 20% VAT.

The 2o% we pay, doesn’t in any way go to the club, nor the supplier, but straight to Boris....even though it is deemed not collectable on overseas purchases!

Shop supplier shrug off enquires about why they can’t zero rate such purchases, and nobody at the club appears to give a toss.

So, poor struggling pensioners like me have to make What is effectively an unsolicited and unwarranted 20% Donation to Boris for no reason, every time we buy something from the club shop!

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks for the explanation.

VAT is indeed a minefield.

Not well known, but us down here in the Antipodes are NOT subject to VAT (although we have our own GST ) on purchases from the Club Shop, but due to the inability of the supplier to upgrade their software, we are needlessly charged the 20% VAT.

The 2o% we pay, doesn’t in any way go to the club, nor the supplier, but straight to Boris....even though it is deemed not collectable on overseas purchases!

Shop supplier shrug off enquires about why they can’t zero rate such purchases, and nobody at the club appears to give a toss.

So, poor struggling pensioners like me have to make What is effectively an unsolicited and unwarranted 20% Donation to Boris for no reason, every time we buy something from the club shop!

Is there no way of reclaiming that from HMRC, in the same way that visitors to the UK can when they leave?

[Forza Fred]

Is there no way of reclaiming that from HMRC, in the same way that visitors to the UK can when they leave?

Nope.

On line purchases from overseas can’t be reclaimed...along the lines of holiday makers buying personally.

They have to be zero rated at time of sale, so no VAT appears on the invoice.

It just seems so grossly ridiculous that a tax that is NOT collectable, is needlessly paid by us, simply because the Company who run the Club Shop are using inadequate software.

As I say,
(A) The club don’t benefit if we pay it
(B) The company who run the club shop don’t benefit if we pay it

The only one who does benefit is HMRC, because if an amount of VAT appears on an invoice it must by law, be submitted to HMRC.

HMRC agree that it should NOT be levied on us, and the obvious solution is for the Club Shop licencee
to upgrade their soft wear to allow such purchases to be zero rated.

Other businesses in Edinburgh have no problem doing this and I think the software is pretty standard, but while the licencee’ Managing Director agrees it is an issue, so far he has done SFA to address it.P, and I can only assume doesn’t want to pay an IT contractor to implement an enhancement to the current software.

I wrote a while ago to Hibs asking for their commitment that when tenders are called for the next licence agreement (current one’s original period is expired by the way) there will be a clause in it requiring the successful tenderer to have adequate software to facilitate zero rating when appropriate.

That was months ago, and the then responsible person never answered and has since resigned.

[basehibby]

The club seem wholly reluctant to get involved with this and I cannot fathom why.

It seems doomed to failure unless there is significant change in the future (and I say that as a regular contributor myself).


Could be there's some uncertainty as to the alignment of objectives at this stage.

Of course the overarching objective of the wellbeing of Hibernian FC remains a common one. However, up until the takeover HSA had the additional aim of purchasing shares in the club - and as far as I'm aware this is not something Ron wants to see happening at this stage and is yet to be re-defined/re-focused by HSA.

So - maybe that's a sticking point and there needs to be a re-alignment of objectives so as HSA and the club are singing off the same hymn sheet?

[Vault Boy]

Could be there's some uncertainty as to the alignment of objectives at this stage.

Of course the overarching objective of the wellbeing of Hibernian FC remains a common one. However, up until the takeover HSA had the additional aim of purchasing shares in the club - and as far as I'm aware this is not something Ron wants to see happening at this stage and is yet to be re-defined/re-focused by HSA.

So - maybe that's a sticking point and there needs to be a re-alignment of objectives so as HSA and the club are singing off the same hymn sheet?

Honestly, I think both parties know the score just now. Ron Gordon has been honest about wanting to keep executive control and therefore not releasing any further shares, HSL aren't fighting that as, well, they can't - but there's no tension there.

Until anything changes on the club's end, HSL will act as an additional funding arm for supporters to use, whilst also trying to incentivise new members by offering up rewards, prize draws and the like. Supporters have really stepped up to help during this financially challenging climate, and as long as there's an enthusiasm from the support to keep helping the club through HSL, HSL will keep doing what it can to facilitate that.

The long term is unclear, that's reasonable to suggest, but I'd say things are well balanced just now.

[Daniel 1875]

If anyone has any ideas as to what they feel the club could do to support Hibernian Supporters more then we are all ears.

There is a good relationship between HS and the club, as there has been throughout, and both parties are as open and honest as possible about the situation we’re in at the moment re shares and ambitions.

Leeann Dempster is of course on the board of Hibernian Supporters but the commercial and media departments are both on good terms with people behind the scenes at Hibernian Supporters.

The club have been helpful with allowing programme adverts, including us in the mail blasts which go to the whole supporter database, facilitating any requests we’ve made to them for prizes etc. Even small things such as offering to place the Hibernian Supporters flag in a prominent position at the stadium all go largely unnoticed.

We’ve been offered an ad slot on The Match which we are currently pulling something together for and as I understand it that offer stands for as long as the games are played behind closed doors.

At the moment the club are working on a small staff base and often covering more ground than they normally would just to get the day to day duties ticked off. They simply don’t have the time or bodies to whip together a snazzy marketing campaign for us, which leaves it to the volunteers to do as best as we can.

As I say, any ideas as to what we can do with the club to make people feel they are fully behind it are more than welcome.

[JGS56]

If anyone has any ideas as to what they feel the club could do to support Hibernian Supporters more then we are all ears.

There is a good relationship between HS and the club, as there has been throughout, and both parties are as open and honest as possible about the situation we’re in at the moment re shares and ambitions.

Leeann Dempster is of course on the board of Hibernian Supporters but the commercial and media departments are both on good terms with people behind the scenes at Hibernian Supporters.

The club have been helpful with allowing programme adverts, including us in the mail blasts which go to the whole supporter database, facilitating any requests we’ve made to them for prizes etc. Even small things such as offering to place the Hibernian Supporters flag in a prominent position at the stadium all go largely unnoticed.

We’ve been offered an ad slot on The Match which we are currently pulling something together for and as I understand it that offer stands for as long as the games are played behind closed doors.

At the moment the club are working on a small staff base and often covering more ground than they normally would just to get the day to day duties ticked off. They simply don’t have the time or bodies to whip together a snazzy marketing campaign for us, which leaves it to the volunteers to do as best as we can.

As I say, any ideas as to what we can do with the club to make people feel they are fully behind it are more than welcome.

Hibernian Supporters have now contributed over £1million to HIBS, which if they had been allowed to carry on and purchase shares they would now be entitled to a place on the club board (under a previous agreement).
I know the rules have changed, but would it not be a good gesture for the club to invite someone from HS onto the board. This may lead to more people donating to and becoming members of HS, as they will feel they have a bit of a say in the club.