Hibs player 'tests positive for Covid'

[we are hibs]

According to the sun. We had to cancel training yesterday but the game tomorrow will go ahead. The club are hopeful it will be a false test and are expecting the nhs results tomorrow.


https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5986066/hibs-cancel-training-player-positive-covid-19/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

[Vault Boy]

Hopefully a false positive. There's been plenty of training footage going around so it's a strange one, might have been recorded previously.

[Dr Jimmy]

Hopefully a false positive. There's been plenty of training footage going around so it's a strange one, might have been recorded previously.

Heard it was actually Jack Ross. Hopefully Incorrect info!

[offshorehibby]

I heard this earlier today from the closest thing i've got to a source but didn't want to post anywhere in case it was nonsense and the papers picked it up.

[Centre Hawf]

Fingers crossed it's a false positive as been suggested, but if it does so happen to be a positive case I hope it's from just normal day to day stuff that couldn't be avoided rather than it coming out they've broken protocols etc. Last thing the club needs is the scrutiny for the next Bolingoli/Aberdeen 8

[HendoDelivered]

Game off tomorrow?

[Heisenberg]

Game off tomorrow?

I would assume so if it comes back as a positive result. The Sun story above seems to say it’s on though.

[G B Young]

I would assume so if it comes back as a positive result. The Sun story above seems to say it’s on though.

If the second test comes back positive then yes, presumably the game has to be postponed.

[Speedy]

Heard a few occasions of false positives (non specific to Hibs). Anyone know how these come about?

[Sir David Gray]

Game off tomorrow?

If the NHS test comes back as positive then I assume the game will have to be postponed.

Let's hope for a false positive result.

[flash]

Be so disappointing if one of our players has done something they shouldn't have. Presumably that isn't the case.

[erin go bragh]

Ffs , bad enough having to wait til Sunday for a game you cannie even go to . Now it has the chance of being postponed 😡

[Iggy Pope]

Be so disappointing if one of our players has done something they shouldn't have. Presumably that isn't the case.

Like contacting it via his wife or his Ma or the door where he gets his rolls in the morning?

[flash]

Like contacting it via his wife or his Ma or the door where he gets his rolls in the morning?

Lost me there.

[Kato]

Lost me there.Just because someone has contracted CV19 doesn't automatically mean they've done something wrong.

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[Vault Boy]

Just because someone has contracted CV19 doesn't automatically mean they've done something wrong.

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Especially with it being just a single player that's potentially testing positive.

[flash]

Just because someone has contracted CV19 doesn't automatically mean they've done something wrong.

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Does my second sentence not cover that?

[Kato]

Does my second sentence not cover that?But the first opens the possibility.

Why even bother? I'm sure the conjecture will be full on elsewhere.

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[flash]

But the first opens the possibility.

Why even bother? I'm sure the conjecture will be full on elsewhere.

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Sorry. Imagine making a post on a forum.

[B.H.F.C]

Scaremongering pish on here. Positive test does not mean the game should be off.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Heard it was actually Jack Ross. Hopefully Incorrect info!

Is this a line out a Rolling Stones song - You Can’t Always Get What..

[HendoDelivered]

Scaremongering pish on here. Positive test does not mean the game should be off.

No but if the player is retested and it comes back positive again, its will probably he off. The rest of the squad will need to be retested again as well.

Hoping its BS.

[Centre Hawf]

Scaremongering pish on here. Positive test does not mean the game should be off.

Why is that? If I was an Aberdeen player (although ironic given their moment) I'd be unhappy if someone in the Hibs squad had tested positive and we were forced to play against 11 people who have been in close proximity to him for weeks.

It would be the same if someone in your office tested positive and the folk who worked closest to them didn't take the time to isolate and check if they too contracted it but instead kept showing up to the building.

[G B Young]

Scaremongering pish on here. Positive test does not mean the game should be off.

Why not? I can't see how it could get the go-ahead if there's a positive test within one of the teams.

Scaremongering is suggesting the player in question is at fault (in which case not only the game but the whole Scottish season woukd be halted).

We need to wait for the full story.

[Kato]

Sorry. Imagine making a post on a forum.[emoji1]

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[Clarence]

Be so disappointing if one of our players has done something they shouldn't have. Presumably that isn't the case.

Get the pitchforks out.

[Clarence]

Shouldn’t stigmatise someone who is infected before you are in full possession of the facts. Otherwise, jumping to conclusions and assuming wrongdoing just encourages a witch hunt mentality, which us Hibees are far too cool, sexy , and enlightened to be doing.

[HH81]

Is the game in doubt?

[Forza Fred]

Is the game in doubt?

Dunno the protocols but if it is a positive test, then the rest of the players would surely be considered ‘close contacts’ and have to isolate.

No?

[we are hibs]

Is the game in doubt?

They expected the results early this morning so we will find out soon either way

[flash]

Get the pitchforks out.

Hardly.

[bingo70]

Is the game in doubt?

According to the story in the paper that broke the news there’s no danger of the game being cancelled.

Suppose that’s essentially why we are doing as much testing as we are so if anyone is going to have it they can be banished from the rest of the group immediately, sure there will be other procedures in place as well.

[sean04]

Was the press interviews not at east mains on Friday?

[JimBHibees]

Was the press interviews not at east mains on Friday?

Assuming so.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Maybe it's Jamie Murphy who has it. I doubt he's met up with the rest of the squad yet, so won't have spread it to them.

He's probably met Jack Ross though...

[Chuck Rhoades]

Is the game in doubt?

Yes postponed.

🙄

[Since452]

Yes postponed.

🙄

Ffs

[neil7908]

Yes postponed.

🙄

Where are you hearing that? Can't see anything online.

[TheGog]

Yes postponed.

🙄

Where you seeing this?

[Borderhibbie76]

Yes postponed.

🙄

Not according to Twitter where ru hearing this?

[Paul1642]

Yes postponed.

🙄

Nothing on any official sites and sky bet are still taking bets.

[Robbo6-2]

Yes postponed.

🙄

No where does it say this online.

If you have made it up u should be banned for life on here

[BoomtownHibees]

Yes postponed.

🙄

Lies

[Leitherhibs]

Game is going ahead regardless.

[GonzoReturns]

Match day just been posted on twitter from Hibs. If game wasn’t on or in doubt not sure that would be posted!!

[Paul1642]

Official Hibs twitter posted a match preview less than a minute ago. Game will be on.

[TheGog]

Hibs have just this seconded tweeted " it's match day"

We are all good don't believe the hype

[Souter96Mac]

Official account just tweeted their usual 'Its Matchday' tweet

[04Sauzee]

⌛ It's matchday!

🏟 Aberdeen are up at Easter Road as we look to build on our unbeaten start.

💚 Hit the link below for all your need-to-know details about today's game.

🙌 With thanks to today's Match Sponsor, @Bartercard, and today's Match Ball Sponsor, @tecagency.

[we are hibs]

Think thats an automatic tweet thats set to send 9am every match day tbf

[Chuck Rhoades]

The eye roll suggests it’s not!! Quoting folk bed wetting - wait until your hear from the Club as opposed to the ****.

[Chuck Rhoades]

Hibs have just this seconded tweeted " it's match day"

We are all good don't believe the hype

Spot on. Let’s focus on beating the Sheep, who should be 8 players down today, instead of that rag stirring as usual.

[Onceinawhile]

Think thats an automatic tweet thats set to send 9am every match day tbf

Aye, wouldn't read in to it tbf

[KanyeWestLower]

Yes postponed.

[emoji849]

Delete this account


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[Keith_M]

The eye roll suggests it’s not!! Quoting folk bed wetting - wait until your hear from the Club as opposed to the ****.


That's it, you're banned from this site for eternity.


:rolleyes:



(check the eye roll)

[500miles]

Why not? I can't see how it could get the go-ahead if there's a positive test within one of the teams.

Scaremongering is suggesting the player in question is at fault (in which case not only the game but the whole Scottish season woukd be halted).

We need to wait for the full story.

St. Mirren had 6 false positives and 1 positive. Think they still played.

[DH1875]

So do we know who it is yet.

[Chuck Rhoades]

So do we know who it is yet.

No.

[Callum_62]

So do we know who it is yet.Wouldn't it be ironic if we end up playing a full strength Aberdeen side after there covid breaches and we are missing Gogic or something

Note - I have no idea who the player is

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[FilipinoHibs]

Delete this account


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Yes Jambo troll.

[Golden Bear]

Not even a mention of the test in the BBC radio weegieland 9am sports bulletin.

[Chuck Rhoades]

Yes Jambo troll.

Hilarious. Been on here over a decade and know a lot of folk personally on here so you’ll quickly be shot down 👍🏻

[1875Sean]

Didn’t Michael O’Neil test positive for COVID when stoke came back, they will still able to play and he missed the first game when they came back?

[Since452]

Hopefully the NHS test comes back negative today

[MacGruber]

So do we know who it is yet.

Yes, it's Jamie Murphy. Tested positive last week at Rangers so they offered him to us to sabotage our title challenge.

[Robbo6-2]

Hilarious. Been on here over a decade and know a lot of folk person
ally on here so you’ll quickly be shot down 👍🏻

Idiotic post

[FilipinoHibs]

Hilarious. Been on here over a decade and know a lot of folk personally on here so you’ll quickly be shot down 👍🏻

Well you are clown then. What made you post that?

[bingo70]

Hilarious. Been on here over a decade and know a lot of folk personally on here so you’ll quickly be shot down 👍🏻

Was your call that the game is postponed based on inside knowledge or just a prediction of what you think will happen?

[Keith_M]

Hilarious. Been on here over a decade and know a lot of folk personally on here so you’ll quickly be shot down ����


Bouncer Ross, you know you're just a Jambo troll.

:na na:

[Chuck Rhoades]

Was your call that the game is postponed based on inside knowledge or just a prediction of what you think will happen?

The eye roll suggested I was at the wind-up - as stated above. Folk getting excited and taking a red top source as fact, ridiculous. Wait until we hear from the club.

[Smartie]

Yes, it's Jamie Murphy. Tested positive last week at Rangers so they offered him to us to sabotage our title challenge.

I would hope that Hibs would have a robust quarantine policy in place for any player joining from Sevco, irrespective of Covid.

[Robbo6-2]

The eye roll suggested I was at the wind-up - as stated above. Folk getting excited and taking a red top source as fact, ridiculous. Wait until we hear from the club.

The eye roll can mean anything.

Terrible banter and you should be booted into touch for it

[mim]

The eye roll suggested I was at the wind-up - as stated above. Folk getting excited and taking a red top source as fact, ridiculous. Wait until we hear from the club.

The red top source stated that the game would go ahead, It was only you that said the game was postponed.

[hibee-boys]

Idiotic post

I committed to going to the in-laws for Sunday dinner on the back of his post, can't get out if it now....I demand compensation😉

[aljo7-0]

The eye roll suggested I was at the wind-up - as stated above. Folk getting excited and taking a red top source as fact, ridiculous. Wait until we hear from the club.

Seeing as it's Sunday

Let him who has never made a joke that induced tumbleweed to rumble past make the first call out on this comment.

I know that at least 80% of mine do 😁

[Pretty Boy]

A report a player has tested positive for covid is the 2020 version of reports about an injury, training ground bust up, transfer request....

People will speculate about it. It has always been the case.

[G B Young]

St. Mirren had 6 false positives and 1 positive. Think they still played.

I thought that was during pre-season? Might be wrong though.

Personally I'd be surprised if the game went ahead if it was known a player from one team had tested positive. I could see the Scottish Government stepping in to postpone it if the football authorities didn't.

There seems to be very little news about this though, so I'm guessing the tabloids have maybe got their story muddled.

[Moulin Yarns]

Not even a mention of the test in the BBC radio weegieland 9am sports bulletin.

Decision, decision. Who to believe, the Sun or the BBC.

[Moulin Yarns]

The eye roll suggested I was at the wind-up - as stated above. Folk getting excited and taking a red top source as fact, ridiculous. Wait until we hear from the club.

Actually, the eye roll could have been as a result of the game being postponed. Certainly the way a lot of people read it, including myself. Irony doesn't work on a football forum

[04Sauzee]

No danger is the game in doubt.


🎟 There's still time for you to snap up your tickets for tonight's Happy Hibee draw.

⌛ They're priced at £2 each, with half of the proceeds making up the jackpot.

💚 In association with @standrewstimber.

[Eyrie]

I expect the game to be on for the simple reason that Aberdeen will already be on their way down the road.

If we thought Kettlewell was OTT in his reaction to a warm up game being called off, wait for the hypocrite McInnes to start whining if that happens.

[Since452]

Sarcastic posts about games being off due to Covid is maybe not too clever right now when we're all concerned about it. Obviously picked it up wrong but so did others

[HH81]

Dunno the protocols but if it is a positive test, then the rest of the players would surely be considered ‘close contacts’ and have to isolate.

No?

Thought English leagues carried on and said player isolated?

[easty]

Given that it’s already been explained that the eye roll meant he wasn’t being serious...can’t we just let this tedious pish go?

Keep coming back on to see if there’s any updates and all I see is this crap.

[Green Badger]

I thought that was during pre-season? Might be wrong though.

Personally I'd be surprised if the game went ahead if it was known a player from one team had tested positive. I could see the Scottish Government stepping in to postpone it if the football authorities didn't.

There seems to be very little news about this though, so I'm guessing the tabloids have maybe got their story muddled.

Correct, the St Mirren positive tests were in mid-July.

[Power]

Standard Friday at HTC - which included journalists, staff and players at HTC https://youtu.be/VoM30N3bbGs - if there has been a flag in weekly tests amongst any one of a number of staff then the right process will be followed then and in the future.

[1875Sean]

Thought English leagues carried on and said player isolated?

That’s correct, the teams in England had different protocols, not one game got rearrange and the players affected self isolated not the whole squad, didn’t seem to spread the short time they were back

[Hibee Mac]

So is this story just a load of pish then?

Wouldn't be the first time a sourceless story from the Sun pops up with no base in reality whatsoever.

[NYHibby]

So is this story just a load of pish then?

Wouldn't be the first time a sourceless story from the Sun pops up with no base in reality whatsoever.

I’m not sure if we would ever hear if the story was true that the first test was positive but the second test shows that it was a false positive. It’s possible that other news organisations have different editorial policies and only report on positive NHS test results.

[JimBHibees]

Standard Friday at HTC - which included journalists, staff and players at HTC https://youtu.be/VoM30N3bbGs - if there has been a flag in weekly tests amongst any one of a number of staff then the right process will be followed then and in the future.

Is the press story correct or not as far as you know?

[hibbydad]

Is the press story correct or not as far as you know?
I have just received my pre match email from the club which would suggest the game was on

[Gatecrasher]

when the Aberdeen players or the St mirren coach tested positive the news was everywhere even when it was a false positive. The fact no one else seems to have picked this up suggests to me this may be false. But I guess we wont know for sure until we approach KO.

[J-C]

Yes Jambo troll.


Who's a private member :rolleyes:

[oneone73]

I've no doubt the story will be true - Robert Martin has good sources. If a first team player has to miss out, I only hope it's not Porteous, Hanlon, Gogic or Doidge. They're all irreplaceable at the moment,imo.

[inglisavhibs]

I've no doubt the story will be true - Robert Martin has good sources. If a first team player has to miss out, I only hope it's not Porteous, Hanlon, Gogic or Doidge. They're all irreplaceable at the moment,imo.
Add Rocky to that list🤒

[FilipinoHibs]

Who's a private member :rolleyes:

Being a private member does not make you immune from being a troll and/or an idiot.

[Chuck Rhoades]

Being a private member does not make you immune from being a troll and/or a idiot.

Keep slinging names at folk online don’t you? Clown, idiot, troll, jambo...

[green day]

Keep slinging names at folk online don’t you? Clown, idiot, troll, jambo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHhWkz5aMc

:greengrin

[Vault Boy]

If this was completely untrue, I think Hibs would have just rubbished it straight away.

For this reason, I'd imagine we're awaiting on the results.

[Chuck Rhoades]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHhWkz5aMc

:greengrin

🤣🤣

[HNA2]

Time to stop the name calling and bickering please

[we are hibs]

Sky saying the follow up test was negative but the player will self isolate for 10 days as a precaution.


The game is on.

[Just_Jimmy]

Sky saying the follow up test was negative but the player will self isolate for 10 days as a precaution.


The game is on.Surely we'll find out soon enough when the team is announced. Unless it's someone of the fringes anyway.

Ironic if its a key player we lose against Aberdeen...

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[Billy Whizz]

Sky saying the follow up test was negative but the player will self isolate for 10 days as a precaution.


The game is on.

Wonder who it is

[Heisenberg]

Wonder who it is

The Sun reckon it’s a “first team star”.

[Stuart93]

I've no doubt the story will be true - Robert Martin has good sources. If a first team player has to miss out, I only hope it's not Porteous, Hanlon, Gogic or Doidge. They're all irreplaceable at the moment,imo.

Mcginn as well for me

[oldbutdim]

Being a private member does not make you immune from being a troll and/or an idiot.

I'm living proof of that.

:aok:

[1van Sprou7e]

The Sun reckon it’s a “first team star”.

Could literally be anyone who has been in the matchday squad then, hopefully not a key player

[Wilson]

The Sun reckon it’s a “first team star”.

Star? Have they got the right club?

[Vault Boy]

Sky saying the follow up test was negative but the player will self isolate for 10 days as a precaution.


The game is on.

Good news.

Hopefully by first team star, the Sun mean somebody from the bench. It's not above them.

[Billy Whizz]

Good news.

Hopefully by first team star, the Sun mean somebody from the bench. It's not above them.

As long as it’s a position we have cover in

[sean04]

Hopefully not gogic

[oneone73]

Sky saying the follow up test was negative but the player will self isolate for 10 days as a precaution.


The game is on.

Hope for their sakes it's not Rocky, Porto or Gogic. Would miss their international call-ups.

[Callum_62]

Is nisbet back?

If not we really can't afford to lose Doidge either

Doidge, Gogic, Porto, Marciano

That's the 4 I think we need the most at the moment

Boyle would be a loss but we have cover

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[frazeHFC]

The papers refer to anyone as a star. Google Hibs star and the results that pop up in the first few pages include Paul Cairney, Darren McCormack and even David Gold.

[Gmack7]

If the test is negative why would he self isolate

[Juniper Greens]

If the test is negative why would he self isolate

"False positives" still require 7 days self isolation. I suppose the reason could be, "was it a real positive, or did the player get over it very quickly"
Sergio Perez missed both Silverstone Grand Prix last month due to one "false positive"

[Brightside]

Test is negative but self isolate anyway. This has to be reviewed. If you are clear you should not have to isolate.

[Billy Whizz]

Could only happen against Aberdeen

[Stuart93]

Advised by the SFA and SG to isolate.

So the “Aberdeen 8” are all cleared to play today and they’re at full strength whereas we’re now missing a player for today’s game

Couldn’t write it

[Diclonius]

Eight Aberdeen players breach lockdown rules - all can play in today's game.

One Hibs player has false positive test - can't play.

Seems fair.

[Robbo6-2]

Thats ridiculous that after a negative result he has to isolate.

Yet 8 Aberdeen players get off Scot free

[Juniper Greens]

Eight Aberdeen players breach lockdown rules - all can play in today's game.

One Hibs player has false positive test - can't play.

Seems fair.

This is a public health issue. The player hasn't been suspended, he has been told to isolate

[JimBHibees]

Sky saying the follow up test was negative but the player will self isolate for 10 days as a precaution.


The game is on.

Don't understand why they would need to self isolate if test was negative

[Heisenberg]

This is a public health issue. The player hasn't been suspended, he has been told to isolate

Why though? It’s been confirmed he doesn’t have the virus.

[Callum_62]

Why though? It’s been confirmed he doesn’t have the virus.I guess they arnt 100percent confident in the tests accuracy therefore are (quite rightly) erring on the side of caution

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[bigwheel]

Don't understand why they would need to self isolate if test was negative

Strange isn’t it ..must be a football policy, rather than government advice ...

[davhibby]

Strange isn’t it ..must be a football policy, rather than government advice ...

They’ve tested positive through a different test and the nhs tests are only 90-something% accurate so it’s just to be safe. As I’ve said on the other thread though it’s the testing company the clubs are using’s fault and clearly the tests they use aren’t good enough

[Sir David Gray]

Eight Aberdeen players breach lockdown rules - all can play in today's game.

One Hibs player has false positive test - can't play.

Seems fair.

Couldn't make it up really.

Seems absolutely absurd and the irony that it's happened against Aberdeen isn't lost on me either.

[JimBHibees]

Advised by the SFA and SG to isolate.

So the “Aberdeen 8” are all cleared to play today and they’re at full strength whereas we’re now missing a player for today’s game

Couldn’t write it

Hugely ironic situation.

[Hibby Mike]

Hey, it's why we have a squad. Bring the 🐑 on 👍

[Hibee Mac]

I don't blame them for playing it safe, it's people's health we are talking about.

Too many people are comparing this with that, why is this fair but this isn't etc.... a line has to be drawn in the sand somewhere, let's get on with it instead of moaning.

[Golden Bear]

Strange isn’t it ..must be a football policy, rather than government advice ...

Not according to the Club Statement.

[bigwheel]

Not according to the Club Statement.

Saw that ..

Here’s what was on government website:


Do I need to keep self-isolating if I have received a negative COVID-19 test result?

If you and your household are isolating because you are experiencing coronavirus symptoms, you and your household are able to end self-isolation early if you receive a negative test.

However, if you are isolating because you live with someone who has symptoms, you must continue to isolate for 14 days even if you receive a negative test. You may only end isolation early if the person with symptoms in your household receives a negative test.

[Billy Whizz]

Going to cause a big team shuffle for Jack, if this is a player in a key position/influential player
You’d have to hope it’s not someone like Doidge, if Nesbit is still injured

[Diclonius]

This is a public health issue. The player hasn't been suspended, he has been told to isolate

I'm not disputing that our player should isolate, just commenting on the irony of it being against a club who have players who actually have broken the rules and who invariably seem to get away with everything.

[A Hi-Bee]

I'm not disputing that our player should isolate, just commenting on the irony of it being against a club who have players who actually have broken the rules and who invariably seem to get away with everything.

***** happens lets just get on with it, better safe than sorry.
:greengrin

[Centre Hawf]

It’s annoying we’ll lose this player today (if they were someone who plays regularly) but its safety first at the moment.

[givescotlandfreedom]

I'm not disputing that our player should isolate, just commenting on the irony of it being against a club who have players who actually have broken the rules and who invariably seem to get away with everything.
That same club even got to play a new signing they never had when the initial St Johnstone fixture was to be played.

[Eyrie]

Thats ridiculous that after a negative result he has to isolate.

Yet 8 Aberdeen players get off Scot free

It's not ridiculous that our player has to self isolate but I'd agree that it's ridiculous that effectively no action was taken against the Aberdeen players (two of whom tested positive) for getting two of their games postponed.

[hibee-boys]

Chuck Rhoades will be along just now to tell us it's Doidge😉

[Chuck Rhoades]

Chuck Rhoades will along just now to tell us it's Doidge😉

I can neither confirm or deny.

Dabrowski to start.... 🤣

[Billy Whizz]

I can neither confirm or deny.

Dabrowski to start.... 🤣

If that’s the case, Samson is on the bench.........

[Iain G]

If that’s the case, Samson is on the bench.........

Let's hope he hasn't had a haircut post lockdown then!

[JohnMcM]

Let's hope he hasn't had a haircut post lockdown then!
That's good - though the age of your readers may well determine how fully they can make the connection.:greengrin

[EI255]

***** happens lets just get on with it, better safe than sorry.
:greengrinThat's not what the Aberdeen players (and board members by the way.... nicely covered up[emoji6]) thought when they were bevvying in an Aberdeen pub.

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[Moulin Yarns]

Let's hope he hasn't had a haircut post lockdown then!

So long as it wasn't Ronnie Delia that did it, should be OK.

[AlbertK86]

Be so disappointing if one of our players has done something they shouldn't have. Presumably that isn't the case.

??? Don’t have to do anything wrong to catch it


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[FilipinoHibs]

So long as it wasn't Ronnie Delia that did it, should be OK.

It was a servant that cut his hair not Deliliah. But still funny.

[HendoDelivered]

Why do folk seem to think it might be Goga? Would be a sore one if that was the case, especially against a McInnes team.

[Heisenberg]

Why do folk seem to think it might be Goga? Would be a sore one if that was the case, especially against a McInnes team.

Tbf we pumped them last season with a midfield of Hallberg, Mallan and Allan.

[-Jonesy-]

Lineups just been posted...Gogic is missing

[Just_Jimmy]

Gogic tweeted its him.

Total farce.

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[Jamesie]

https://twitter.com/Gogic13/status/1300074544724541440?s=19

It's Gogic

[Since452]

Assuming he won't get to play for his country?

[Eyrie]

Not just a loss for us today against Aberdeen, but a problem for Gogic as well.

A ten day self isolation period will keep him in the UK and deny him his first cap.

[Stuart93]

Replacing Gogic with Hallberg shows how much we need another defensive midfielder in

Take out one player and it’s absolute powderpuff

[Jamesie]

You either treat him as a positive or you treat him as a negative. This is a half way house that is in nobody's interests.

[Silversand]

I thought as long as its not Hanlon, Gogic or Doidge we'll cope [emoji26]

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[hfc rd]

Typical! 😒

[tonyrougier123]

So we have to do without potentially the most key player in our squad?!
Absolute farce,brings the whole system in to question for me ,very convenient that.

[EI255]

Come on Hibs!!!!!

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[DH1875]

I still don't get why he needs to isolate if the first test was inconclusive and the 2nd negative.

[Sir David Gray]

****ing shambles.

[tonyrougier123]

We are paying a company to test players who have cost us points today!!get them punted ASAP.
This is very annoying like!

[Moulin Yarns]

We are paying a company to test players who have cost us points today!!get them punted ASAP.
This is very annoying like!

Good attitude. Lost before a ball is kicked in anger.

[GISALEGEND]

As I said regarding Collum last week at Aberdeen game, the SFA/SPFL & so forth are just making the rules as go along, folk on a few forums thought I was an idiot. If memory serves too when the initial rules were written up about players/staff who test positive, games were supposed to be postponed for risk of affecting more players/staff. We're losing a 1st team player as a result of this, hope we get a result due to this.

[cabbageandribs1875]

suddenly unfortunately aberdeen @9/5 looks quite attractive

[tonyrougier123]

Good attitude. Lost before a ball is kicked in anger.

You can see what he brings to the team,spineless without that ball winning ability imo.its nowt to do with attitude,calling it as I see it playing out without gogic.

[DH1875]

Hold on a minute. He has had 3 tests and last 2 came back negative?????

[Zazu62]

He tested negative ffs

[tonyrougier123]

Our preps for a very important game ruined by nonsense!so raging about this like😠

[CockneyRebel]

He is the only player we don't have cover for.

[cabbageandribs1875]

suddenly unfortunately aberdeen @9/5 looks quite attractive



free money :agree:

[ScottB]

This is nonsense.

So we’ve established this pattern;

Player tests positive through no fault of their own. No matter what any follow up tests show they will miss however many games in the next 10 days.

Player tests positive because they went out on the lash or went abroad for a few days without telling anyone. Games postponed, should be available for rearranged fixtures.

As it stands, Hibs have been punished more than Aberdeen, effectively. Ridiculous.

[HFC_NYC]

Conspiracy theory time. What if the person who signs off on the tests has an allegiance to a certain football team, is there anything to prevent him from submitting a false positive result knowing that it will prevent certain players from playing. Again, this is somewhat tongue in cheek, but I thought it was worth asking.

[macca70]

This situation is a complete farce, it wouldn’t surprise me if there is a change today where they decide Gogic doesn’t actually have to isolate for 10 days and he can go on international duty.

Sounded like Hibs approached SPFL/SFA for guidance on what they should do in this scenario, none was given so they played on the side of caution and told Gogic to isolate for 10 days so not to risk breaching protocol.

It’s was a faulty test!!!! Apply common sense, the follow up tests were negative!!!

[bawheid]

Conspiracy theory time. What if the person who signs off on the tests has an allegiance to a certain football team, is there anything to prevent him from submitting a false positive result knowing that it will prevent certain players from playing. Again, this is somewhat tongue in cheek, but I thought it was worth asking.

I would doubt the test samples have players names on them. It’ll be codes or sample IDs.

[BlackSheep]

Gogic just announce he can’t attend international duty. Gutted for him. **** the SFA and gov guidelines...

[Heisenberg]

It’s a really shambolic ruling which I presume will be changed shortly. I’m not saying Gogic would have ensured we’d win or get a result yesterday but he’s a massive player for us. Ross alluded to it yesterday but can you imagine either old firm side putting up with the same upheaval before an old firm derby?

[Sir David Gray]

Gogic just announce he can’t attend international duty. Gutted for him. **** the SFA and gov guidelines...

Absolutely bloody disgraceful.

[Wilson]

Gogic just announce he can’t attend international duty. Gutted for him. **** the SFA and gov guidelines...

Yes gutted for him. Jack Ross had mentioned how happy he was to be called up.

I feel that he is a winner though and is in the right place to showcase his ability. He'll get there.

[B.H.F.C]

The bizarre ruling of the SFA depriving Gogic of his first call up for his country is ridiculous. Punished for not actually having the virus.

[Sir David Gray]

The bizarre ruling of the SFA depriving Gogic of his first call up for his country is ridiculous. Punished for not actually having the virus.

Jack Ross said yesterday it was the guidelines they all signed up to. If that's the case then the guidelines need ripped up and rewritten.

[BlackSheep]

Gogic can not attend his call up as he has to self isolate for 10 days... even though he has had a negative test.

A relative of mine came back from Spain A feel weeks back and to quarantine, he then got a test as they work in the care industry, it came back negative so his quarantine restrictions were lifted immediately.

Where is the consistency??? It’s not all the SFA in this scenario but they are the ones who need to question the Gov... it’s a farce in the highest order.

[Sir David Gray]

Gogic can not attend his call up as he has to self isolate for 10 days... even though he has had a negative test.

A relative of mine came back from Spain A feel weeks back and to quarantine, he then got a test as they work in the care industry, it came back negative so his quarantine restrictions were lifted immediately.

Where is the consistency??? It’s not all the SFA in this scenario but they are the ones who need to question the Gov... it’s a farce in the highest order.

Yep 100%.

Unfortunately it doesn't appear to have been deemed important enough to be brought up by any of the journalists at today's briefing so the First Minister doesn't need to provide any answers.

Might be a different story if Ryan Kent or James Forrest are caught up in a similar situation two days before the next Old Firm game.

[greenginger]

Gogic can not attend his call up as he has to self isolate for 10 days... even though he has had a negative test.

A relative of mine came back from Spain A feel weeks back and to quarantine, he then got a test as they work in the care industry, it came back negative so his quarantine restrictions were lifted immediately.

Where is the consistency??? It’s not all the SFA in this scenario but they are the ones who need to question the Gov... it’s a farce in the highest order.


My my son in law works in the care industry, in Aberdeen. One of his colleagues tested positive and was re tested the next day which came back negative so he was called back to work immediately.

Has there been any suggestions as to why this extra secure testing regime exists in football ? Does the same system work in England ?

[jacomo]

Jack Ross said yesterday it was the guidelines they all signed up to. If that's the case then the guidelines need ripped up and rewritten.


They really do. This is a total farce.

It’s cost Hibs big time, with Saturday’s training for the Aberdeen game cancelled and no Gogic for the match - a player who does NOT have Covid-19.

[Killiehibbie]

My my son in law works in the care industry, in Aberdeen. One of his colleagues tested positive and was re tested the next day which came back negative so he was called back to work immediately.

Has there been any suggestions as to why this extra secure testing regime exists in football ? Does the same system work in England ?

Total farce. They make it up as they go along and claim to be following the science.

[CentreLine]

I’m happy Hibs have erred on the safe side here. There is a steady increase in positive cases of Covid-19, we are seeing hospitalisation rising again and a slow increase in people receiving intensive care in Scotland. Furthermore the British Government just released a paper where it was published that a “reasonable worts case scenario” would see a further 80,000 people die UK wide. As of now 10% of people known to have had Covid-19 in Scotland have died and a similar number of people have had Covid-19 as a contributory factor in their death. The UK wide figures are worse still.
Yes there are inconsistencies in how different organisations treat this pandemic but I am very happy to see any organisation err on the safe side. I just don’t get all the complaints. So what, Gogic misses out for the present but his time will come. If we become complacent about this pandemic that time will not come for many more.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m happy Hibs have erred on the safe side here. There is a steady increase in positive cases of Covid-19, we are seeing hospitalisation rising again and a slow increase in people receiving intensive care in Scotland. Furthermore the British Government just released a paper where it was published that a “reasonable worts case scenario” would see a further 80,000 people die UK wide. As of now 10% of people known to have had Covid-19 in Scotland have died and a similar number of people have had Covid-19 as a contributory factor in their death. The UK wide figures are worse still.
Yes there are inconsistencies in how different organisations treat this pandemic but I am very happy to see any organisation err on the safe side. I just don’t get all the complaints. So what, Gogic misses out for the present but his time will come. If we become complacent about this pandemic that time will not come for many more.

I don’t think Hibs erred on the side of safe, personally.

I think they were frustrated that with the guidance given, as well as the length of time to get it. I think Hibs did what they were told to do rather than them choosing to do it. With Gogic making a point of mentioning the two, subsequent, negative tests I think he was equally frustrated at having to miss out given there isn’t actually anything wrong with him.

[CentreLine]

I don’t think Hibs erred on the side of safe, personally.

I think they were frustrated that with the guidance given, as well as the length of time to get it. I think Hibs did what they were told to do rather than them choosing to do it. With Gogic making a point of mentioning the two, subsequent, negative tests I think he was equally frustrated at having to miss out given there isn’t actually anything wrong with him.

And in the bigger scheme of things his international debut is postponed but no harm has been done.

[B.H.F.C]

And in the bigger scheme of things his international debut is postponed but no harm has been done.

The SFA seem to go against government guidance one returning to work though.

“Even if you have had a negative result, it’s important to still apply caution. If everyone with symptoms who was tested in their household receive a negative result, the employee can return to work if their work cannot be done from home, providing they are well enough, and have not had a fever for 48 hours”

[Sir David Gray]

I’m happy Hibs have erred on the safe side here. There is a steady increase in positive cases of Covid-19, we are seeing hospitalisation rising again and a slow increase in people receiving intensive care in Scotland. Furthermore the British Government just released a paper where it was published that a “reasonable worts case scenario” would see a further 80,000 people die UK wide. As of now 10% of people known to have had Covid-19 in Scotland have died and a similar number of people have had Covid-19 as a contributory factor in their death. The UK wide figures are worse still.
Yes there are inconsistencies in how different organisations treat this pandemic but I am very happy to see any organisation err on the safe side. I just don’t get all the complaints. So what, Gogic misses out for the present but his time will come. If we become complacent about this pandemic that time will not come for many more.

He tested negative, not once but twice.

We missed out on playing him yesterday despite those negative results and despite no rules being broken. Our opponents Aberdeen played 4 players yesterday who did break rules but despite that they were never suspended.

Gogic will also now miss his chance to make his debut for his country all because he has to stay in the house to protect people from a virus that everyone knows he doesn't have.

That's why there's complaints, the whole thing's a complete and utter farce.

[ColintonHibs]

It's all a psy op

[CentreLine]

He tested negative, not once but twice.

We missed out on playing him yesterday despite those negative results and despite no rules being broken. Our opponents Aberdeen played 4 players yesterday who did break rules but despite that they were never suspended.

Gogic will also now miss his chance to make his debut for his country all because he has to stay in the house to protect people from a virus that everyone knows he doesn't have.

That's why there's complaints, the whole thing's a complete and utter farce.

Yeh, and almost 5000 people are dead in Scotland. Some people don’t need to look too far to find reason to complain.

[BoomtownHibees]

Yeh, and almost 5000 people are dead in Scotland. Some people don’t need to look too far to find reason to complain.

We are talking about a guy who has had 2 tests show him to be negative. Nothing wrong with him. His family have been tested and also told they were negative.

Is this was Joe Public, he would have been expected to be back in work the following morning without a question asked. This shouldn’t be any different because you play football for a living.

[bigwheel]

We are talking about a guy who has had 2 tests show him to be negative. Nothing wrong with him. His family have been tested and also told they were negative.

Is this was Joe Public, he would have been expected to be back in work the following morning without a question asked. This shouldn’t be any different because you play football for a living.

It’s over now, football and governments are still learning how to react to these challenges...those were the rules at play, so we lost out on a player as a result. I think what the poster is saying is that We’re in the throws of a pandemic, people are dying, we may well feel hard done by, but it’s not that important in the scheme of things...


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[CentreLine]

It’s over now, football and governments are still learning how to react to these challenges...those were the rules at play, so we lost out on a player as a result. I think what the poster is saying is that We’re in the throws of a pandemic, people are dying, we may well feel hard done by, but it’s not that important in the scheme of things...


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👍🏻 Spot on. Not looking for an argument just trying to put some perspective on a dangerous situation and hoping people realise that coronavirus is very real and has not gone away. There will be times we all feel a little put out in how it affects us. Easiest way to deal with that is to remember this is a worldwide pandemic we are in the middle of and we are rapidly approaching a million dead world wide. And that’s just the numbers countries are admitting.

[BlackSheep]

Im all for erring on caution... I’m diabetic and don’t want to chance anything in terms of how it will affect me should I catch it, but in this case testing is paramount.

Should someone receive a positive result then isolation until they can provide negative results is the way to go. Gogic provides such negative results so his restrictions should have been lifted as per the rules for the general public.

The way I which we engage with this virus must keep evolving as our understanding of it does too.

I think in Gogic’s case the rules being applied are still those which were drawn up when testing wasn’t as widely conducted.

The SFA and Scots Gov need to work closely to ensure the game keeps playing in a safe environment but also in a fair way to those involved.

Gogic’s omission from the squad and his international call up were not fair.

[Sir David Gray]

Yeh, and almost 5000 people are dead in Scotland. Some people don’t need to look too far to find reason to complain.

I understand that and after the initial inconclusive result I fully supported Hibs taking decisive action and erring on the side of caution.

As soon as the negative test was returned (twice) he should have been able to resume the full duties of his employment.

It's an absolute nonsense and he's being treated differently to every other citizen in this country and it actually goes against the government's advice.

If we didn't allow anyone to return to work as soon as a negative test was returned, the country would be in danger of collapse.

[JimBHibees]

I understand that and after the initial inconclusive result I fully supported Hibs taking decisive action and erring on the side of caution.

As soon as the negative test was returned (twice) he should have been able to resume the full duties of his employment.

It's an absolute nonsense and he's being treated differently to every other citizen in this country and it actually goes against the government's advice.

If we didn't allow anyone to return to work as soon as a negative test was returned, the country would be in danger of collapse.

However if these are the rules all clubs agreed to with the authorities then not sure we are in a position to look for an exception.

[jacomo]

I’m happy Hibs have erred on the safe side here. There is a steady increase in positive cases of Covid-19, we are seeing hospitalisation rising again and a slow increase in people receiving intensive care in Scotland. Furthermore the British Government just released a paper where it was published that a “reasonable worts case scenario” would see a further 80,000 people die UK wide. As of now 10% of people known to have had Covid-19 in Scotland have died and a similar number of people have had Covid-19 as a contributory factor in their death. The UK wide figures are worse still.
Yes there are inconsistencies in how different organisations treat this pandemic but I am very happy to see any organisation err on the safe side. I just don’t get all the complaints. So what, Gogic misses out for the present but his time will come. If we become complacent about this pandemic that time will not come for many more.


Gogic does not have Covid-19. It's cost us and it's costing him his first international call up. It's a farce.

Cancelling Saturday's practice was probably unavoidable (in line with the cautious approach you support) but a player now self-isolating after a confirmed negative test isn't caution, it's bonkers.

[Sir David Gray]

However if these are the rules all clubs agreed to with the authorities then not sure we are in a position to look for an exception.

Again I understand that but from what Jack Ross was saying it doesn't sound like the SFA or SPFL gave any definitive answers on what Hibs should be doing in this scenario when they asked for guidance last Friday.

Presumably this guidance they all signed up to was provided by the government and the clubs' acceptance of it was a prerequisite for them being granted a return to playing. If that's the case then we need to hear an explanation from the government as to why perfectly healthy people are being prevented from doing their jobs.

[EI255]

It's only gonna get a whole lot worse, for every club, before it gets better.

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[Just_Jimmy]

Gogic and his mates should have just gone to the pub on Saturday. Game would have been off. No punishment for Hibs. Fit and able to play with full strength team in a few weeks.

President for the above has already been set so no disputing it.

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[JimBHibees]

Again I understand that but from what Jack Ross was saying it doesn't sound like the SFA or SPFL gave any definitive answers on what Hibs should be doing in this scenario when they asked for guidance last Friday.

Presumably this guidance they all signed up to was provided by the government and the clubs' acceptance of it was a prerequisite for them being granted a return to playing. If that's the case then we need to hear an explanation from the government as to why perfectly healthy people are being prevented from doing their jobs.

I got the impression from his interview before the Dons game he struggled to get any communication on what they should be doing. If the protocol was agreed then the only guidance they should have been getting would have imo been the football authorities.

[jeffers]

I got the impression from his interview before the Dons game he struggled to get any communication on what they should be doing. If the protocol was agreed then the only guidance they should have been getting would have imo been the football authorities.

That’s what I took from his interview too, but not convinced it would have made any difference to the outcome given Gogic has been told he can’t go away on international duty. Saying all that I wonder what would have happened if we had played him anyway. Two negative tests would be evidence he wasn’t infected, then you have the government website saying you can end isolation after a negative result. Plus the anecdotal evidence of people being allowed immediately back to work after a negative test.

Maybe easy for me to say in hindsight but can’t believe no one had considered what should happen if a false positive was quickly followed by negative results.

[CentreLine]

That’s what I took from his interview too, but not convinced it would have made any difference to the outcome given Gogic has been told he can’t go away on international duty. Saying all that I wonder what would have happened if we had played him anyway. Two negative tests would be evidence he wasn’t infected, then you have the government website saying you can end isolation after a negative result. Plus the anecdotal evidence of people being allowed immediately back to work after a negative test.

Maybe easy for me to say in hindsight but can’t believe no one had considered what should happen if a false positive was quickly followed by negative results.

It was considered recently for two St Mirren players. In the absence of any updated direction from the JRC Hibs had only one choice.
Farce seems to be a popular word these days. BBC just love it and so it seems so a whole lot of people on here.
The situation is fluid for sure and bound to be frustrating as much of the policy is reactionary and on the hoof. But farce when the situation is so dangerous? I don’t think so.

[Sir David Gray]

It was considered recently for two St Mirren players. In the absence of any updated direction from the JRC Hibs had only one choice.
Farce seems to be a popular word these days. BBC just love it and so it seems so a whole lot of people on here.
The situation is fluid for sure and bound to be frustrating as much of the policy is reactionary and on the hoof. But farce when the situation is so dangerous? I don’t think so.

What's dangerous about someone going out to do their job after returning two negative test results?

Do you think every single person in the country, who has tested negative twice, should be sitting in the house for 10 days just because they initially returned a false positive result?

[Peevemor]

What's dangerous about someone going out to do their job after returning two negative test results?

Do you think every single person in the country, who has tested negative twice, should be sitting in the house for 10 days just because they initially returned a false positive result?

Because a double negative makes a positive. Even I remember that from school.

[O'Rourke3]

Hearts finishing bottom and fighting it. Ridiculous. Hibs having to follow the rules as set out. Ridiculous. Make your minds up folks. Expect updated guidance and updated rules in the SFPL.

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[easty]

However if these are the rules all clubs agreed to with the authorities then not sure we are in a position to look for an exception.

:agree:

The time to say that "if a player gets a false positive he should be allowed to play, not have to quarantine for 10 days" was when the rules were being agreed upon. Not just when it doesn't suit us.

[MurrayfieldHibs]

Because a double negative makes a positive. Even I remember that from school.
:thumbsup:

[lord bunberry]

Hearts finishing bottom and fighting it. Ridiculous. Hibs having to follow the rules as set out. Ridiculous. Make your minds up folks. Expect updated guidance and updated rules in the SFPL.

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Those two points aren’t comparable. Everyone is in agreement that the rules were in place and we had to follow them, the rule is plainly wrong though as it only seems to apply to footballers. I agree there will most likely be a change of the rule after this.

[Zazu62]

So Aberdeen and Celtic got there games postponed and our player just wasn’t allowed to play and the game went ahead? Can u I imagine this scenario playing out if it were an old firm game? Telling Celtic or Rangers oh u can’t train today and em Edoaurd/Kent can’t play, he tested negative but he still can’t play. It’s a shambles. The people that run or country are pathetic

[Spike Mandela]

So Aberdeen and Celtic got there games postponed and our player just wasn’t allowed to play and the game went ahead? Can u I imagine this scenario playing out if it were an old firm game? Telling Celtic or Rangers oh u can’t train today and em Edoaurd/Kent can’t play, he tested negative but he still can’t play. It’s a shambles. The people that run or country are pathetic

It’s ironic and annoying that the two players that have had to miss games are one with a false positive and another who buggered off to Spain for a couple of days in flagrant abuse of the rules.

It is a public health issue though and by the law of averages Gogic won’t be the last to suffer in this scenario, in fact, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if somebody in the Rangers, Celtic game does get affected by this.

The only annoying thing through all of this is the toothless SFA’s pitiful response to the Aberdeen players who effectively weren’t sanctioned at all for nearly getting the game shut down. Weak, weak, weak.

[Sir David Gray]

So Aberdeen and Celtic got there games postponed and our player just wasn’t allowed to play and the game went ahead? Can u I imagine this scenario playing out if it were an old firm game? Telling Celtic or Rangers oh u can’t train today and em Edoaurd/Kent can’t play, he tested negative but he still can’t play. It’s a shambles. The people that run or country are pathetic

Yep agreed.

[hibeerealist]

So Aberdeen and Celtic got there games postponed and our player just wasn’t allowed to play and the game went ahead? Can u I imagine this scenario playing out if it were an old firm game? Telling Celtic or Rangers oh u can’t train today and em Edoaurd/Kent can’t play, he tested negative but he still can’t play. It’s a shambles. The people that run or country are pathetic


Lets wait for that one and see how rules can be bent or massaged to suit the OF, I really hope if it does occur Hibs get support from the other clubs when protesting!!

[Peevemor]

Lets wait for that one and see how rules can be bent or massaged to suit the OF, I really hope if it does occur Hibs get support from the other clubs when protesting!!

The rules will be changed before the next round of matches.

Hibs and the SPFL did the correct thing in sticking by the rules even though they don't make sense.

Without the sort of histrionics that Budge & co. would no doubt have displayed, we accepted what happened while asking that the rules be changed and that clearer directives are put in place for the future.

If something similar happens again the player involved will probably be permitted to play and there''ll be heads exploding all over the place on here - even though any rule change will have been at our request.

There's no logic to what happened with Gogic, but it's done and we should move on.

[Just_Jimmy]

:agree:

The time to say that "if a player gets a false positive he should be allowed to play, not have to quarantine for 10 days" was when the rules were being agreed upon. Not just when it doesn't suit us.He didn't give out a false positive. He gave out two negative tests after that.

Had he tested positive then quarenteened then fine. However, as others have said he then test negative twice. This is the standard normal people are being sent back to work by.

It is frankly as many have said, a farce.

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[easty]

He didn't give out a false positive. He gave out two negative tests after that.

Had he tested positive then quarenteened then fine. However, as others have said he then test negative twice. This is the standard normal people are being sent back to work by.

It is frankly as many have said, a farce.

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He did give a false positive. That’s why he had to take further tests.

[MacGruber]

He did give a false positive. That’s why he had to take further tests.

Playing devils advocate but I don't think he did give a false positive.

From what I read it was one inconclusive then 2 negative re-tests. Semantics I know

[Just_Jimmy]

He did give a false positive. That’s why he had to take further tests.As the post below says it was inconclusive then two negative. Regardless, he's negative. He tested negative twice after this "false positive". So he doesn't have covid but he still has to quarenteen for 10 days?

Seems legit.

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[JimBHibees]

So Aberdeen and Celtic got there games postponed and our player just wasn’t allowed to play and the game went ahead? Can u I imagine this scenario playing out if it were an old firm game? Telling Celtic or Rangers oh u can’t train today and em Edoaurd/Kent can’t play, he tested negative but he still can’t play. It’s a shambles. The people that run or country are pathetic

:greengrin

[O'Rourke3]

Those two points aren’t comparable. Everyone is in agreement that the rules were in place and we had to follow them, the rule is plainly wrong though as it only seems to apply to footballers. I agree there will most likely be a change of the rule after this.You can't say they are incomparable if they are both rules. The second is clearly bad but is still the rule that qas agreed to allow top league football to reopen. Thats why I'm expecting a review & or changes in the same way there will be changes in The SFPL covering pandemic.

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[lord bunberry]

You can't say they are incomparable if they are both rules. The second is clearly bad but is still the rule that qas agreed to allow top league football to reopen. Thats why I'm expecting a review & or changes in the same way there will be changes in The SFPL covering pandemic.

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That’s not what you said though, you compared the reaction to the enforcement of the rules by both clubs.

[BoomtownHibees]

You can't say they are incomparable if they are both rules. The second is clearly bad but is still the rule that qas agreed to allow top league football to reopen. Thats why I'm expecting a review & or changes in the same way there will be changes in The SFPL covering pandemic.

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We followed the rule without causing any sort of fuss whatsoever. Doesn’t mean the rule isn’t a stupid one!!

Don’t get the comparison with the Hearts stuff mind you

[04Sauzee]

Dundee Utd are looking into allegations that one of their players has broken Covid guidelines according to a newspaper report this evening.

[Sir David Gray]

Dundee Utd are looking into allegations that one of their players has broken Covid guidelines according to a newspaper report this evening.

Great, that will be the "red card" for football then.

[Vault Boy]

Great, that will be the "red card" for football then.

Not so sure it will be, it's a really minor thing compared to the previous issues.

If it's true, then clearly it's stubborn and idiotic from him, but it'd be quite shocking if all of Scottish football was shut down for it.

That's my hope at least.

[we are hibs]

He didnt wear a mask in a taxi. Hardly going to get the season stopped.

[Sir David Gray]

Not so sure it will be, it's a really minor thing compared to the previous issues.

If it's true, then clearly it's stubborn and idiotic from him, but it'd be quite shocking if all of Scottish football was shut down for it.

That's my hope at least.

I've just read the actual allegations and they don't seem season ending.

Hopefully not anyway but if it's true then Connolly should have the book thrown at him.

[bigwheel]

He didnt wear a mask in a taxi. Hardly going to get the season stopped.

Was he not also out in pubs , no mask, no social distancing ??

[B.H.F.C]

Was he not also out in pubs , no mask, no social distancing ??

Staff from the pub are quoted as saying he wasn’t a problem at all. Complied with all distancing etc. I might be wrong but I don’t think there will be anything to say a player can’t go to a pub or restaurant. In the case of the Aberdeen players the biggest issue was that there was so many of them from different households.

The taxi driver is making out that he was unwell, shivering, coughing etc. Boy probably supports Dundee!

[bigwheel]

Staff from the pub are quoted as saying he wasn’t a problem at all. Complied with all distancing etc. I might be wrong but I don’t think there will be anything to say a player can’t go to a pub or restaurant. In the case of the Aberdeen players the biggest issue was that there was so many of them from different households.

The taxi driver is making out that he was unwell, shivering, coughing etc. Boy probably supports Dundee!

Hahaha. Fair enough [emoji106]

[davhibby]

Staff from the pub are quoted as saying he wasn’t a problem at all. Complied with all distancing etc. I might be wrong but I don’t think there will be anything to say a player can’t go to a pub or restaurant. In the case of the Aberdeen players the biggest issue was that there was so many of them from different households.

The taxi driver is making out that he was unwell, shivering, coughing etc. Boy probably supports Dundee!

Yeah the fact there were 8 Aberdeen players out was part of the problem but they were also in a rammed pub that wasn’t enforcing any social distancing and looked like it would have before the virus on a Saturday night. If the place Connolly was in was enforcing the guidelines then I don’t think it’s an issue

[O'Rourke3]

That’s not what you said though, you compared the reaction to the enforcement of the rules by both clubs.Not quite. Was comparing the "majority poster" view on the threads. That might not be as clear as intended .The reactions from the clubs are chalk and cheese and not comparable unless we are comparing extremes.

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[Creamofthegods]

Can’t help but feel the frustration is being directed at the wrong target here.

If the rules say a player must quarantine after a positive test then that’s what should happen, there is no dispute that Gogic had a positive test. I am not an epidemiologist so can’t really say why subsequent negative tests do not supersede the positive.

Where I think the ire should be directed is at the original test which is assumed to be a false positive. This follows similar false positive incidents at St Mirren and our late results in pre season. The clubs are paying a fortune for these tests, why are they proving to be unreliable, this is the second major test system failure at Hibs.

Rather than complaining in public about guidance that we signed up to (no issue challenging this in private by the way) we should be holding our own suppliers to account, in my view they have been happy to take significant money from Hibs but have now let the club down twice.

[Sir David Gray]

Can’t help but feel the frustration is being directed at the wrong target here.

If the rules say a player must quarantine after a positive test then that’s what should happen, there is no dispute that Gogic had a positive test. I am not an epidemiologist so can’t really say why subsequent negative tests do not supersede the positive.

Where I think the ire should be directed is at the original test which is assumed to be a false positive. This follows similar false positive incidents at St Mirren and our late results in pre season. The clubs are paying a fortune for these tests, why are they proving to be unreliable, this is the second major test system failure at Hibs.

Rather than complaining in public about guidance that we signed up to (no issue challenging this in private by the way) we should be holding our own suppliers to account, in my view they have been happy to take significant money from Hibs but have now let the club down twice.

I agree with this but the rules which effectively treat footballers differently to workers of every other profession are wrong and need to be ripped up and written again.

[Creamofthegods]

I agree with this but the rules which effectively treat footballers differently to workers of every other profession are wrong and need to be ripped up and written again.

I’m quite glad footballers are being treated differently, if they weren’t we wouldn’t have the league back yet. A special exemption has been made with specific guidance agreed. On positive tests I don’t think the guidance has changed so I’m unsure why JR or the club felt the need for confirmation or clarification from the SFA or SPFL?

On whether that guidance is correct or not, I’m prepared to leave that to the experts but one thing this incident does provide is that the tests are not 100% accurate. I read in a article this morning (cant find it now of course!) that up to 30% of positives might be missed by the tests. On the basis that the tests are not wholly accurate and that a false negative could be recorded it doesn’t seem to me to be wholly crazy that any positive test requires the players to quarantine for 10 days, irrespective of any subsequent test results.

[highland hibbee]

Heard a few occasions of false positives (non specific to Hibs). Anyone know how these come about?

Not had a false positive but had test taken at 13.30 for going offshore the next day. half 11 at night got a phone call to be at hotel reception at 6 in the morning as my test was inconclusive and I would need tested again. this time there was a quick turnaround and I was confirmed negative. the first test was the first time ( I've had 6 now ) that I didn't gag when the probe was stuck down back of my throat or make my eyes water when the swab was rammed up my nose. the test obviously hadn't been done properly by the tester, as I later found out another 4 guys had also to be retested. so not a false positive but an example of how a badly done test can cause concern

[Just_Jimmy]

Not had a false positive but had test taken at 13.30 for going offshore the next day. half 11 at night got a phone call to be at hotel reception at 6 in the morning as my test was inconclusive and I would need tested again. this time there was a quick turnaround and I was confirmed negative. the first test was the first time ( I've had 6 now ) that I didn't gag when the probe was stuck down back of my throat or make my eyes water when the swab was rammed up my nose. the test obviously hadn't been done properly by the tester, as I later found out another 4 guys had also to be retested. so not a false positive but an example of how a badly done test can cause concernAnd having then tested negative did you have to isolate for 10 days? Or did you go offshore to work?

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