Europe

[B.H.F.C]

Just reading about our coefficient and there is big incentive to make sure we get it right this year. Five European places up for grabs, not entering in the first qualifying round in any of them.


“ However, due to Olympiacos' defeat to Wolves in the competition, Scotland are now in 14th place in Uefa's coefficient table.

And that means this season's Premiership champions will go straight into the Champions League third qualifying round next summer.

While the runners-up, who have had to settle for the Europa League in recent seasons, will go into the second qualifying round.

Our new ranking is good news for the 2020-21 Scottish Cup winners as well, as they'll go into the Europa League's third qualifying round.

Whichever clubs finish third and fourth in the Premiership will go into the second qualifying round for the new Europa Conference League”.

[jonny]

Just reading about our coefficient and there is big incentive to make sure we get it right this year. Five European places up for grabs, not entering in the first qualifying round in any of them.


“ However, due to Olympiacos' defeat to Wolves in the competition, Scotland are now in 14th place in Uefa's coefficient table.

And that means this season's Premiership champions will go straight into the Champions League third qualifying round next summer.

While the runners-up, who have had to settle for the Europa League in recent seasons, will go into the second qualifying round.

Our new ranking is good news for the 2020-21 Scottish Cup winners as well, as they'll go into the Europa League's third qualifying round.

Whichever clubs finish third and fourth in the Premiership will go into the second qualifying round for the new Europa Conference League”.

Also with the cup winner likely to come from the top 4 there's a good chance the team that finishes 5th in the league can get into Europe.
That has to be our minimum target.

[BlackSheep]

Interestingly, the league places will be 1st/2nd place into champions league and 3rd/4th place into the new Europa Conference League.

Only the winners of the Scottish Cup get into the Europa League.

[danhibees1875]

Interestingly, the league places will be 1st/2nd place into champions league and 3rd/4th place into the new Europa Conference League.

Only the winners of the Scottish Cup get into the Europa League.

Do you know if those knocked out of the Europa go into the conference in the same was as those knocked out of the CL go into Europa?

[Sir David Gray]

Do you know if those knocked out of the Europa go into the conference in the same was as those knocked out of the CL go into Europa?

Yes there will be teams knocked out of both the Champions League and the Europa League that will go into this new competition.

[Hibernian Verse]

You'd like to think we can finish top 5 with our resources compared to the other clubs, but as we know we have rarely performed relative to budget.

[Juniper Greens]

Yes there will be teams knocked out of both the Champions League and the Europa League that will go into this new competition.

Not as many though.
10 teams knocked out of the Europa League playoffs and 8 teams knocked out of the Europa League groups

[JohnM1875]

Interestingly, the league places will be 1st/2nd place into champions league and 3rd/4th place into the new Europa Conference League.

Only the winners of the Scottish Cup get into the Europa League.

Hmm that's strange.

So just say Celtic win the Scottish cup and the European spot goes to the team 5th in the league right? Does the 5th placed team go into the Europa league, the better competition. Or does that Europa league place go to the team in 3rd and the 5th place gets the new Europa Conference place?

[RoYO!]

One of the best things about a euro trip? The planning thread! Haha

[Monts]

Hmm that's strange.

So just say Celtic win the Scottish cup and the European spot goes to the team 5th in the league right? Does the 5th placed team go into the Europa league, the better competition. Or does that Europa league place go to the team in 3rd and the 5th place gets the new Europa Conference place?

It would go to the 3rd place team.

[JohnM1875]

It would go to the 3rd place team.

Cheers. That's definitely fairest.

[BlackSheep]

It would go to the 3rd place team.

Correct... I think.... obviously nothing been stated in writing about this, has there?

But what you say should be the way it all happens.

To be honest I think the potential of the top 5 getting European places makes a good case for league expansion. Almost half the top tier getting into Europe seems a bit odd.

[Monts]

Correct... I think.... obviously nothing been stated in writing about this, has there?

But what you say should be the way it all happens.

To be honest I think the potential of the top 5 getting European places makes a good case for league expansion. Almost half the top tier getting into Europe seems a bit odd.

I haven't seen anything confirming it, just purely basing it on how it worked previously. In the past, when the cup winner had already qualified for europe, the league placing spots were adjusted so that the highest placed team entered at the later qualifying rounds. I can't see why they would change it now.

[Bristolhibby]

Correct... I think.... obviously nothing been stated in writing about this, has there?

But what you say should be the way it all happens.

To be honest I think the potential of the top 5 getting European places makes a good case for league expansion. Almost half the top tier getting into Europe seems a bit odd.

Knowing Hibs we will get 6th.

J

[Monts]

Knowing Hibs we will get 6th.

J

Or 5th, and lose the cup final to cowdenbeath...

[gbhibby]

Champions league here we come!

[Eyrie]

Hmm that's strange.

So just say Celtic win the Scottish cup and the European spot goes to the team 5th in the league right? Does the 5th placed team go into the Europa league, the better competition. Or does that Europa league place go to the team in 3rd and the 5th place gets the new Europa Conference place?

You only get the European spot if you win the Cup, not if you finish runner up to the team that won the league. That change was introduced a few years ago because it was damaging the coefficient.

So when Celtc won the Cup in 2019 the runner up didn't qualify, otherwise we'd have seen a lower league side qualify for Europe only to get knocked out by a part time Maltese team.

[Unseen work]

Imo we will still bring in a good couple of quality additions

James
Hallberg
Stirling
Innes Murray
Sean Mackie

All the above could be moved on either permanently or loan.

Absolutley no reason we cant be competing for 3rd.

[Juniper Greens]

Imo we will still bring in a good couple of quality additions

James
Hallberg
Stirling
Innes Murray
Sean Mackie

All the above could be moved on either permanently or loan.

Absolutley no reason we cant be competing for 3rd.

I hope you are right. Aberdeen have shot themselves in the foot, and I really hope we are in a position to take advantage and get third

[bod]

And to think there were folk on here not wanting the ugly sisters to do well in Europe & to hang with the coefficient.
:flag:

[ballengeich]

You only get the European spot if you win the Cup, not if you finish runner up to the team that won the league. That change was introduced a few years ago because it was damaging the coefficient.

So when Celtc won the Cup in 2019 the runner up didn't qualify, otherwise we'd have seen a lower league side qualify for Europe only to get knocked out by a part time Maltese team.

The change to stop cup runners-up playing in the Europa league was taken by UEFA not the SFA. The rule had applied to all countries so I don't understand how it damaged the Scottish co-efficient relative to anyone else.

If the SFA had wanted to keep lower division clubs out of the Europa league they wouldn't have allowed the 2016 cup winners access to the tournament.

[hibbysam]

Imo we will still bring in a good couple of quality additions

James
Hallberg
Stirling
Innes Murray
Sean Mackie

All the above could be moved on either permanently or loan.

Absolutley no reason we cant be competing for 3rd.

Don’t think there’s any point moving the youngsters on. It’s clear we don’t have the money to bring loads in, and lower leagues don’t start until mid October. I’d rather keep them and have them there if and when needed, especially with 20 man match day squads.

[tamig]

Imo we will still bring in a good couple of quality additions

James
Hallberg
Stirling
Innes Murray
Sean Mackie

All the above could be moved on either permanently or loan.

Absolutley no reason we cant be competing for 3rd.
I can still see Halberg doing a good job for us.

[hibsbollah]

I can still see Halberg doing a good job for us.

i don’t think JR rates him at this point. Newell a much better option on form.

[B.H.F.C]

I can still see Halberg doing a good job for us.

Genuine question. What job? To start with I thought he had something. But the more I saw, he just seems to run around a lot but I’m not sure what he’s good at.

[JohnM1875]

You only get the European spot if you win the Cup, not if you finish runner up to the team that won the league. That change was introduced a few years ago because it was damaging the coefficient.

So when Celtc won the Cup in 2019 the runner up didn't qualify, otherwise we'd have seen a lower league side qualify for Europe only to get knocked out by a part time Maltese team.

Cheers. I get you now. So if Celtic were to win the cup we'd then have no entrants in the Europa league. As third and fourth get Europa Conference. Or is that when the team in third would get the Europa League spot?

I don't know why I'm asking anyway. We're obviously winning the cup this year!

[Eyrie]

The change to stop cup runners-up playing in the Europa league was taken by UEFA not the SFA. The rule had applied to all countries so I don't understand how it damaged the Scottish co-efficient relative to anyone else.

If the SFA had wanted to keep lower division clubs out of the Europa league they wouldn't have allowed the 2016 cup winners access to the tournament.

The difference was that we won the Cup.

And a lower league club won't be winning it this year, to the disappointment of part time Maltese teams :wink:

[Eyrie]

Cheers. I get you now. So if Celtic were to win the cup we'd then have no entrants in the Europa league. As third and fourth get Europa Conference. Or is that when the team in third would get the Europa League spot?

I don't know why I'm asking anyway. We're obviously winning the cup this year!

I'd assume that third gets the Europa League place and it would be fourth and fifth in the Europa Conference.

But as you point out, that is purely hypothetical :thumbsup:

[StevieC]

I don't know why I'm asking anyway. We're obviously winning the cup this year!

Winning the Scottish Cup this year wont get you into Europe. :wink:

[Juniper Greens]

Winning the Scottish Cup this year wont get you into Europe. :wink:

Good point. Can we get an added stipulation, that if Celtic win league and cup next year, then the 19-20 cup winners get the Europa place??

[Eyrie]

Good point. Can we get an added stipulation, that if Celtic win league and cup next year, then the 19-20 cup winners get the Europa place??

Would we be allowed to enter two teams in the same competition?

[Speedy]

Genuine question. What job? To start with I thought he had something. But the more I saw, he just seems to run around a lot but I’m not sure what he’s good at.

He made a difference to start with because we had no shape or discipline in the midfield. Agree though, I don't think he's a starter long term

[Bristolhibby]

Good point. Can we get an added stipulation, that if Celtic win league and cup next year, then the 19-20 cup winners get the Europa place??

Think that’s how it works anyways. Cup winners always get the best Europa seeding. (Unless they have won the league or qualified for the Champions League anyway). Then the “Cup” spot goes to the best team not qualified for the Champions League.

J

[Sir David Gray]

Think that’s how it works anyways. Cup winners always get the best Europa seeding. (Unless they have won the league or qualified for the Champions League anyway). Then the “Cup” spot goes to the best team not qualified for the Champions League.

J

The winners of the 19/20 Scottish Cup won't get a European place.

[EI255]

Just a pity none of us will get to travel, should we qualify.

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[hibbysam]

Just a pity none of us will get to travel, should we qualify.

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I’m fairly sure in nearly a whole years time that we will be able to travel.

[H18 SFR]

Just a pity none of us will get to travel, should we qualify.

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I didn’t think travelling was banned?

[Is It On....]

Good point. Can we get an added stipulation, that if Celtic win league and cup next year, then the 19-20 cup winners get the Europa place??

Or we could save the stress in finish in the Top 2