Aberdeen fixtures

[AugustaHibs]

Could this Covid cluster stop them from playing games?

[staunchhibby]

Possibly will.Saying not to travel to Aberdeen unless its essential

[hibee_girl]

Probably not, the one in Leicester didn’t stop Leicester playing their games

[the tornadoe]

Leicester is NOT in Sturgeon country !!

[Stairway 2 7]

Said can travel further than 5 miles for work

[Stuart93]

Plus the players and staff that will be travelling are all tested beforehand. Id imagine that’ll have a part to play in them being allowed to travel

[Lendo]

Neutral venue perhaps? What difference would it make with no fans in the stadium.

[Ringothedog]

Leicester is NOT in Sturgeon country !!

Where is this place called “Sturgeon country” ?

[Ozyhibby]

I think Aberdeen will be fine. A more likely problem will be when they and Motherwell, Celtic and Sevco start to travel in Europe. There is the possibility that they will have to quarantine on return. That could throw the whole league programme into disarray. Uefa have said if they can’t travel to a game they will have to withdraw from the tournament so there could be big dramas ahead.


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[Torto7]

Where is this place called “Sturgeon country” ?

It's the type of crap you read in the daily express etc. Merkel gets the same treatment. The gammons don't like women in power especially competent ones.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Leicester is NOT in Sturgeon country !!

Give us peace.

[Monts]

I think Aberdeen will be fine. A more likely problem will be when they and Motherwell, Celtic and Sevco start to travel in Europe. There is the possibility that they will have to quarantine on return. That could throw the whole league programme into disarray. Uefa have said if they can’t travel to a game they will have to withdraw from the tournament so there could be big dramas ahead.


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Would regular testing not negate the need for quarantine?

[hibee_girl]

https://twitter.com/bbcchrismclaug/status/1290984533446328322?s=21

[Ozyhibby]

Would regular testing not negate the need for quarantine?

Can’t say for sure but I don’t think so. You can be privately tested for about £250 so surely they would advise that instead of quarantine if it was effective?


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[Since452]

Luckily footballers are being tested frequently so games should be ok

[the tornadoe]

It's the type of crap you read in the daily express etc. Merkel gets the same treatment. The gammons don't like women in power especially competent ones.

Ooh... are you sure it was a derogatory comment !! Keep your " crap" to yourself my friend !

[danhibees1875]

Said can travel further than 5 miles for work

I think that'll be the key factor here and their games won't be postponed. :agree:

[tamig]

https://twitter.com/bbcchrismclaug/status/1290984533446328322?s=21

Couple of whining hertz fans on there showing exactly why nobody in the game can stand them.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Probably not, the one in Leicester didn’t stop Leicester playing their games

Scotland has a different strategy to England in relation to Coronavirus which is much tighter and trying to clampdown harder on local clusters hence this very early move.

This Aberdeen limited lockdown is getting reviewed in 7 days and if the cluster is out of control and embedded in the community then you have to think all Aberdeen games are under threat.

[Keith_M]

It's the type of crap you read in the daily express etc. Merkel gets the same treatment. The gammons don't like women in power especially competent ones.


Isn't calling people 'gammons' both racist and ageist?

:hmmm:

[G15 Hibs]

Isn't calling people 'gammons' both racist and ageist?

:hmmm:

And porcinist

[147lothian]

Give us peace ya clown.

By all means say why you disagree with a post but this type of language is probably better suited to a different fans forum.

[Sir David Gray]

I doubt it will impact their ability to continue playing behind closed doors but if this outbreak gets any worse then I'd say we can forget the planned return of fans from 14th September.

[Hibiza]

Is it " flock contagious " ?

[Skol]

It's the type of crap you read in the daily express etc. Merkel gets the same treatment. The gammons don't like women in power especially competent ones.

What’s a gammon?

Somewhat ironic use given the point that was being answered.

[Lee Marvin]

I doubt it will impact their ability to continue playing behind closed doors but if this outbreak gets any worse then I'd say we can forget the planned return of fans from 14th September.

I'd be amazed if we have any fans in football grounds by then.

[marinello59]

I doubt it will impact their ability to continue playing behind closed doors but if this outbreak gets any worse then I'd say we can forget the planned return of fans from 14th September.

There is absolutely no chance of that happening. I doubt we will see fans in grounds this year.

[Sir David Gray]

I'd be amazed if we have any fans in football grounds by then.


There is absolutely no chance of that happening. I doubt we will see fans in grounds this year.

I can't see it happening either, without trying to come across as smug, I have been saying this all along.

If that happens, I'll take absolutely no pleasure in being proved right.

[Since452]

There is absolutely no chance of that happening. I doubt we will see fans in grounds this year.

I'd be astounded. Especially with the winter months and flu and cold season to come

[Man Down Under]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53668239 Aberdeen games won't be affected

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[Keith_M]

And porcinist


If that were a real word then yes, definitely!

:-)

[CMurdoch]

If that were a real word then yes, definitely!

:-)

It is a real word.
Here is Ron Gordon talking about porcinists whilst dressed as the main man fae the Hair Bear Bunch

https://ontargetnewsletter.wordpress.com/2006/04/03/number_3_march699679/comment-page-1/

[Keith_M]

It is a real word.
Here is Ron Gordon talking about porcinists whilst dressed as the guy from the Hair Bear Bunch

https://ontargetnewsletter.wordpress.com/2006/04/03/number_3_march699679/comment-page-1/


Wow, every day's a school day!

[AugustaHibs]

One Aberdeen player has tested positive. Wonder what this means now

[hibbyfraelibby]

One Aberdeen player has tested positive. Wonder what this means now

McInnes should skelp his arse for going drinking in the Hawthorn Bar...

[Moulin Yarns]

One Aberdeen player has tested positive. Wonder what this means now

Where is this being reported? Aberdeen fc twitter has nothing.

[Springbank]

Where is this being reported? Aberdeen fc twitter has nothing.

Its on Radio Forth / Radio Clyde twitter feeds as breaking news

https://twitter.com/ClydeSSB/status/1291358670543101953

[Sir David Gray]

Where is this being reported? Aberdeen fc twitter has nothing.

All over the media outlets now.

This could certainly impact the season.

[Billy Whizz]

All over the media outlets now.

This could certainly impact the season.

It could impact their game on Saturday, shouldn’t affect Hibs at the moment though

[danhibees1875]

All over the media outlets now.

This could certainly impact the season.

If they call the league now we'd be in the Champions League for 21/22! It would be unfair to demote Hamilton though.

This happened to someone down south did it not? Team played on regardless. So long as all other aberdeen players test negative then I think the game will go ahead - maybe we need to have a ruling on how many players need to be ruled out before a game is postponed.

[007]

One Aberdeen player has tested positive. Wonder what this means now

No doubt the Jambos will be all over this. The saddos are desperate for the Premiership to be stopped or disrupted.

[04Sauzee]

It could impact their game on Saturday, shouldn’t affect Hibs at the moment though
From the bbc


The news casts doubt over Aberdeen's Premiership game with St Johnstone in Perth on Saturday.

The Scottish government had said the game was not at risk amid the lockdown because clubs are "within a sporting bubble".

[hibbysam]

If they call the league now we'd be in the Champions League for 21/22! It would be unfair to demote Hamilton though.

This happened to someone down south did it not? Team played on regardless. So long as all other aberdeen players test negative then I think the game will go ahead - maybe we need to have a ruling on how many players need to be ruled out before a game is postponed.

Clubs are still on twice weekly tests aren’t they? After the last lot of hiccups, so any positive tests will just be treated as if the player was injured. Everyone else will have tested negative. Won’t be calling games off for one single player.

[hibbyfraelibby]

No doubt the Jambos will be all over this. The saddos are desperate for the Premiership to be stopped or disrupted.

The JKB frothers were foaming at the mouth when the Aberdeen cluster was first announced and went into overdrive yesterday when the lockdown was put in place.

They are currently a soggy mass of odolescence wetting them selves in a self induced frenzy akin to a 14 yo finding his dads hidden copy of Razzle

[Keith_M]

No doubt the Jambos will be all over this. The saddos are desperate for the Premiership to be stopped or disrupted.


If games were to be delayed in August, it would further undermine their argument that the 19/20 season could have been played to a finish.

In which case, you'd think it would be better for them if they just kept quiet (for once).

[nonshinyfinish]

If games were to be delayed in August, it would further undermine their argument that the 19/20 season could have been played to a finish.

In which case, you'd think it would be better for them if they just kept quiet (for once).

Yes, they are famed for their coherent, logical thinking. :hmmm:

[Billy Whizz]

From the bbc


The news casts doubt over Aberdeen's Premiership game with St Johnstone in Perth on Saturday.

The Scottish government had said the game was not at risk amid the lockdown because clubs are "within a sporting bubble".

Surely if all the other players have texted negative, the player who tested positive would just be withdrawn from the squad

[Ronniekirk]

Surely if all the other players have texted negative, the player who tested positive would just be withdrawn from the squad

I would think players will get test again just to make sure


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[Billy Whizz]

I would think players will get test again just to make sure


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They will, but they’ll need to get them back quick

[macca70]

Appears the Aberdeen player hasn’t followed protocol which, if true, might get the player or Aberdeen into trouble but also heard that 8 Aberdeen players went to the pub that’s at the centre of this outbreak.

[JimBHibees]

They will, but they’ll need to get them back quick

I thought in some cases it takes a few days to test positive. Trying to remember what happened down south if positive results for players.

[Andy74]

I thought in some cases it takes a few days to test positive. Trying to remember what happened down south if positive results for players.

Those players missed training and games for the required period whilst the rest got on with it.

[green day]

but also heard that 8 Aberdeen players went to the pub that’s at the centre of this outbreak.
Is there any truth to this? I saw it on twitter and immediately discounted it.

[G B Young]

Next two Aberdeen games set to be postponed I'd predict.

[Billy Whizz]

Next two Aberdeen games set to be postponed I'd predict.

Where are you reading this

[Moulin Yarns]

Where are you reading this

He's not read it anywhere. He is just spreading his scaremongering opinion.

[Billy Whizz]

He's not read it anywhere. He is just spreading his scaremongering opinion.

Ok ta

Stolen from an Aberdeen fans forum, not sure if this is genuine or not?

[we are hibs]

He's not read it anywhere. He is just spreading his scaremongering opinion.


As usual.

[Not So Young]

Clubs are still on twice weekly tests aren’t they? After the last lot of hiccups, so any positive tests will just be treated as if the player was injured. Everyone else will have tested negative. Won’t be calling games off for one single player.


Surely if all the other players have texted negative, the player who tested positive would just be withdrawn from the squad

Anyone who has been in close contact with this player must self isolate for 14 days, that is the instruction given by the track and trace people.

In the first 2-3 days of becoming infected you could still produce a negative result as the virus incubates then you show signs so there could be several other players yet it depends when the tests were done if yesterday Saturday could be too soon to assume he has not passed it on

We don't know how or with who he travels to training.

[Moulin Yarns]

As usual.

I didn't say that 😉

[Sir David Gray]

Ok ta

Stolen from an Aberdeen fans forum, not sure if this is genuine or not?

What does it say? I can only read parts of it.

[04Sauzee]

Aberdeen fans seem to think the St J is cancelled and the game against Hamilton is in doubt? Not sure how they shoe-horn these fixtures in?

[Sir David Gray]

Aberdeen fans seem to think the St J is cancelled and the game against Hamilton is in doubt? Not sure how they shoe-horn these fixtures in?

Their training was cancelled today so there must be doubt about Saturday's game, even if for no reason other than the disruption it will have caused to their preparation.

[hibbysam]

Anyone who has been in close contact with this player must self isolate for 14 days, that is the instruction given by the track and trace people.

In the first 2-3 days of becoming infected you could still produce a negative result as the virus incubates then you show signs so there could be several other players yet it depends when the tests were done if yesterday Saturday could be too soon to assume he has not passed it on

We don't know how or with who he travels to training.

Not when it comes to football they don’t. Whether rightly or wrongly, that’s the rules set. We’ve had positive tests already and no whole teams had to isolate.

[Hibs90]

Ok ta

Stolen from an Aberdeen fans forum, not sure if this is genuine or not?

The original image was put up by a Rangers twitter page. Make of that what you will.

[Gatecrasher]

you would have thought cases of the virus would be a given and as long as its one or two and not a large chunk of the squad games would go ahead as planned. As long as everyone is tested as their supposed to.

[Hibs90]

https://i.gyazo.com/ce2f0384b17b95a86d42c2297f24e0df.png

[Billy Whizz]

The original image was put up by a Rangers twitter page. Make of that what you will.

No worries, just saw it the Dons forum

[Sir David Gray]

https://i.gyazo.com/ce2f0384b17b95a86d42c2297f24e0df.png

Appears to be genuine.

[Hibs90]

No worries, just saw it the Dons forum

Does appear genuine. Leaked by someone at Scottish Govt.

[Hibs90]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_08/117258658_1839642059508616_5881308140958722386_n.p ng.676808eac3eca540ec4b3f0083d87f37.png.59d5f6be4a e0c575d30bd87338367938.png

[B.H.F.C]

If protocols have all been followed, only the player affected isolates. If protocols haven’t been followed, entire team do is what I’d take from that.

If Aberdeen/any players have broken the protocols, and can’t fulfil fixtures as a result, we shouldn’t need to worry about rescheduling anything IMO.

[davhibby]

If protocols have all been followed, only the player affected isolates. If protocols haven’t been followed, entire team do is what I’d take from that.

If Aberdeen/any players have broken the protocols, and can’t fulfil fixtures as a result, we shouldn’t need to worry about rescheduling anything IMO.

Yeah, if players have broken the protocols then St Johnstone should get the 3 points if Aberdeen can’t play on Saturday. Would also be the best way to try and ensure that it doesn’t happen anywhere else

[Billy Whizz]

STV news saying allegedly up to 8 Aberdeen players were out on the town on Saturday
Dear me, if this is true,

[AugustaHibs]

If protocols have all been followed, only the player affected isolates. If protocols haven’t been followed, entire team do is what I’d take from that.

If Aberdeen/any players have broken the protocols, and can’t fulfil fixtures as a result, we shouldn’t need to worry about rescheduling anything IMO.

What are the protocols? Are the players allowed to go to the pub etc?

[B.H.F.C]

What are the protocols? Are the players allowed to go to the pub etc?

I’m not entirely sure which is why I said ‘if’ they’ve broken them.

But given players all need to turn up to training on their own, I presume they’re no meant to sit together in a pub. Wouldn’t really fit with the whole ‘bubble’ thing.

[Andy74]

STV news saying allegedly up to 8 Aberdeen players were out on the town on Saturday
Dear me, if this is true,

Points deduction is the way to go here.

[Peevemor]

I’m not entirely sure which is why I said ‘if’ they’ve broken them.

But given players all need to turn up to training on their own, I presume they’re no meant to sit together in a pub. Wouldn’t really fit with the whole ‘bubble’ thing.If it was only the players sitting together in a pub then that wouldn't be a problem. It's everyone else that's in the place at the same time.

Players shouldn't be out in bars, restaurants or any other indoor public place where masks aren't obligatory.

[Since90+2]

Points deduction is the way to go here.

Under what rule? You can't just deduct a team points for players going out together, as much as it seems a daft thing to do.

[B.H.F.C]

Under what rule? You can't just deduct a team points for players going out together, as much as it seems a daft thing to do.

If they can’t fulfil their fixture then I think the potential punishments are pretty strong.

[Since90+2]

If they can’t fulfil their fixture then I think the potential punishments are pretty strong.

Of course. If they can't fulfill fixtures they can be penalised.

If Aberdeen say they can put out a team for Saturday you can't simply deduct them points because players have tested positive (as stupid as their actions might have been).

[The 90+2]

Of course. If they can't fulfill fixtures they can be penalised.

If Aberdeen say they can put out a team for Saturday you can't simply deduct them points because players have tested positive (as stupid as their actions might have been).

Yes you can if they haven’t followed protocol.

What’s stopping Celtic or rangers players going out there way to get a positive test right before an old firm match that’s going to be behind closed doors to get it cancelled to a later date? Punishment will be needed. Could earn St Johnstone a good few quid mind you.

[Since90+2]

Yes you can if they haven’t followed protocol.

What’s stopping Celtic or rangers players going out there way to get a positive test right before an old firm match that’s going to be behind closed doors to get it cancelled to a later date? Punishment will be needed. Could earn St Johnstone a good few quid mind you.

There is a rule in the SPFL regulations that allows for points deductions in this circumstance? Id be very surprised if so.

[1van Sprou7e]

Of course. If they can't fulfill fixtures they can be penalised.

If Aberdeen say they can put out a team for Saturday you can't simply deduct them points because players have tested positive (as stupid as their actions might have been).

I imagine the whole squad will need to self isolate so I can't see how they can possibly fullfil their fixture

Maybe I'm wrong though

In any case the players should and will be heavily punished of the story turns out true

[B.H.F.C]

Of course. If they can't fulfill fixtures they can be penalised.

If Aberdeen say they can put out a team for Saturday you can't simply deduct them points because players have tested positive (as stupid as their actions might have been).

I just assumed the other poster would be talking about a points deduction if they couldn’t fulfil their fixture. Which, of reports are true, they won’t be I don’t think.

[Since90+2]

Yes you can if they haven’t followed protocol.

What’s stopping Celtic or rangers players going out there way to get a positive test right before an old firm match that’s going to be behind closed doors to get it cancelled to a later date? Punishment will be needed. Could earn St Johnstone a good few quid mind you.

You seriously think football players are going to go out and catch a potentially deadly disease to avoid playing a game? Deary me.

[1van Sprou7e]

Also, this makes me glad we don't have so many fannies in our squad anymore

Can imagine if we still had the likes of Stokes or Cummings this would probably end up being an issue at some point but it feels a bit less likely now

[Andy74]

Under what rule? You can't just deduct a team points for players going out together, as much as it seems a daft thing to do.

I wasn’t suggesting there was a rule.

[The 90+2]

You seriously think football players are going to go out and catch a potentially deadly disease to avoid playing a game? Deary me.

I didn’t suggest they would do it. I suggested the potential opportunity is there and also accusations.

[Sir David Gray]

BBC Scotland news reporting 2 Aberdeen players involved.

[The 90+2]

There is a rule in the SPFL regulations that allows for points deductions in this circumstance? Id be very surprised if so.

There must be a rule on a team who can’t fulfil their fixture, yes.

[hibee_girl]

You seriously think football players are going to go out and catch a potentially deadly disease to avoid playing a game? Deary me.

They'd have to be seriously stupid to do that. Putting themselves and their families at risk just to get a game of football cancelled.

[Monts]

https://i.gyazo.com/ce2f0384b17b95a86d42c2297f24e0df.png


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Interesting that these are two different photos, taken a minute apart. Someone was desperate to spread this news!

[Since90+2]

I didn’t suggest they would do it. I suggested the potential opportunity is there and also accusations.

It's ridiculous to even suggest it as an "opportunity" and has no relevance whatsoever to the Aberdeen circumstances.

[Since90+2]

They'd have to be seriously stupid to do that. Putting themselves and their families at risk just to get a game of football cancelled.

Yip. It just wouldn't happen.

[Sir David Gray]

Yes you can if they haven’t followed protocol.

What’s stopping Celtic or rangers players going out there way to get a positive test right before an old firm match that’s going to be behind closed doors to get it cancelled to a later date? Punishment will be needed. Could earn St Johnstone a good few quid mind you.

The idea that anyone might intentionally catch a virus that, even if not fatal, can end up causing them long term health problems just so they can avoid playing a game behind closed doors is utter nuts.

[The dalmeny]

Interesting that these are two different photos, taken a minute apart. Someone was desperate to spread this news!

different info on the screen

[The 90+2]

It's ridiculous to even suggest it as an "opportunity" and has no relevance whatsoever to the Aberdeen circumstances.

It opens the door for future accusations.

[The 90+2]

The idea that anyone might intentionally catch a virus that, even if not fatal, can end up causing them long term health problems just so they can avoid playing a game behind closed doors is utter nuts.

Of course it is. We live in a nuts country open to everything though. Not just that, Rangers/Celtic star player is out of suspended a big game, couple of players rest positive, nothing done, the place will go tonto.

[Since90+2]

Of course it is. We live in a nuts country open to everything though. Not just that, Rangers/Celtic star player is out of suspended a big game, couple of players rest positive, nothing done, the place will go tonto.

I think you're the only one who thinks the possibility of a player intentionally catching a life threatening virus to delay a match is possible. It's genuinely one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here.

[The 90+2]

I think you're the only one who thinks the possibility of a player intentionally catching a life threatening virus to delay a match is possible. It's genuinely one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here.

Get off your high horse there fella. Go back and read my last few posts too before continuing to bitch.

[GreenCastle]

I reckon the players get tested but are still mixing with different family members and the public regularly so kind of makes a mockery of it all.

They aren’t in a bubble as such and with Saturday very close going to be interesting to see what happens.

As pointed out the English league just got on with it but i think they were testing more often - I don’t think Scotland has the money to operate like the English leagues.

[Iggy Pope]

The TV guys are wasting their time at Hearts. There’s a Salisbury style blockbuster to be had up North about industrial subterfuge, poisoning and self harm waiting to shoot. With football thrown in. Seriously new territory.

[we are hibs]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-6-august/?rid=13929


Aberdeen game on but they will be without EIGHT players who need to isolate

[Radium]

Thursday 6th August 2020
SCOTTISH PREMIERSHIP
JOINT RESPONSE GROUP UPDATE 06/08/20
CONFIRMATION OF POSITIVE TESTS – ABERDEEN FC
The Joint Response Group has been informed that Aberdeen FC has returned two preliminary positive tests for COVID-19 among its playing squad.
One player has now been confirmed as a positive by a follow-up National Health Service test, while the second player is awaiting the result of a follow-up NHS test.
In light of the First Minister’s increased restrictions imposed on the city of Aberdeen since a significant outbreak of COVID-19 this week, and following further investigation by NHS Grampian’s Health Protection Team, the Scottish Government has instructed that both players will require to self-isolate, along with a further six players found to have been in close proximity to the initial positive player.
The initial positive player will require to self-isolate for 10 days from yesterday, with the remaining seven players to self-isolate for 14 days from yesterday.
This instruction for self-isolation has been unanimously endorsed by the Joint Response Group. In light of the action taken, and after consultation with Scottish Government, Aberdeen’s Scottish Premiership match against St Johnstone on Saturday will go ahead as scheduled.
Rod Petrie, Joint Response Group Chair: “As we have said from the outset, public health is the absolute priority of the Joint Response Group. As soon as we were informed of the positive tests, the information was immediately referred to the Scottish Government via our Chief Medical Consultant.
“Given the well-documented outbreak in Aberdeen it was imperative that we took the swiftest action to enable the local Health Protection Team to respond immediately.
“The Scottish Government’s instruction to the JRG was clear and unequivocal, as was our support of that instruction. Given the circumstances, we issue the strongest possible message to all clubs to ensure compliance with the twice-weekly testing procedure and Scottish football’s Return to Playing Protocol. It is imperative that everyone adheres to Scottish Government public health advice.”


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[Hibs90]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-6-august/?rid=13929


Aberdeen game on but they will be without EIGHT players who need to isolate

Lump on St. Johnstone

[Ronniekirk]

He's not read it anywhere. He is just spreading his scaremongering opinion.

Or as he put it Prediction


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[Billy Whizz]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-6-august/?rid=13929


Aberdeen game on but they will be without EIGHT players who need to isolate

They must have had permission to go out on Saturday night

[The 90+2]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-6-august/?rid=13929


Aberdeen game on but they will be without EIGHT players who need to isolate

That’s the only way to proceed with this.

[Ronniekirk]

STV news saying allegedly up to 8 Aberdeen players were out on the town on Saturday
Dear me, if this is true,

If true yes it would be shocking and they should be absolutely Hammered pardon the pun


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[calumhibee1]

The eight players will miss league matches against St Johnstone, Hamilton and Celtic

[Billy Whizz]

That’s the only way to proceed with this.

Putting the onus on the clubs to manage their staff
I can see a big fallout at Aberdeen over this. Did the management give approval to go out, or did they make their own decisions

Big wake up call to all players

[Hibs90]

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Further to tonight’s JRG statement, Aberdeen FC confirms that two first team players, who have tested positive for COVID-19 but are asymptomatic, are self-isolating for ten days.

Club Statement
In line with government guidance and procedures from the football authorities, six other players, who were in close proximity with the two positive cases, are also self-isolating for 14 days.

The Club has been in open discussions with the football authorities since this came to light.

As a result, the Club will be missing eight players for the St Johnstone game, which the JRG has confirmed will now go ahead on Saturday.

AFC Chairman, Dave Cormack, said: “After Saturday’s game, with all eyes on Pittodrie, we were once again commended on the stringent processes and measures we had in place. Given the efforts of everyone at the Club and our investment in protecting our most valuable assets, this is a bitter blow.

“With two first team players testing positive for COVID-19, plus six others having to isolate for 14 days, it is also a harsh reminder of the severity and speed of spread of this virus.

“The Club will be carrying out a full investigation but, as an immediate first step, we have reinforced the Club’s COVID-19 protocols and the governing bodies’ guidance with every player and member of staff and will continue to regularly educate and remind everyone of what is, and what is not, acceptable in the current climate.

“We now have to focus on preparing for Saturday’s game under extremely difficult circumstances.”

[Since452]

STV news saying allegedly up to 8 Aberdeen players were out on the town on Saturday
Dear me, if this is true,

Poor judgement if they were

[Billy Whizz]

Poor judgement if they were

Seems to be true now

[Pretty Boy]

Obviously it's just idle speculation on a forum but there really is no point in trying to guess how this will play out.

A few months back a majority on here believed there was no way a virus in China would see a premature end to the season. Obviously that escalated. The situation in Aberdeen could be controlled quickly and we have limited crowds next month, it could mean an extended time behind closed doors or it could see multiple infections within the club confirmed and a series of postponements.

As it stands we just don't know how things will play out.

[we are hibs]

Cosgrove injured and Considine suspended too.

[Billy Whizz]

Obviously it's just idle speculation on a forum but there really is no point in trying to guess how this will play out.

A few months back a majority on here believed there was no way a virus in China would see a premature end to the season. Obviously that escalated. The situation in Aberdeen could be controlled quickly and we have limited crowds next month, it could mean an extended time behind closed doors or it could see multiple infections within the club confirmed and a series of postponements.

As it stands we just don't know how things will play out.

Let’s just say, it doesn’t help getting fans back into grounds, when the players are testing positive

[Robbo6-2]

Are the players not allowed to socialise?

[B.H.F.C]

Are the players not allowed to socialise?

Of course they are ‘allowed’ to. In the circumstances it’s not exactly sensible though. Not when they’re meant to be working in a bio secure environment.

[The 90+2]

Putting the onus on the clubs to manage their staff
I can see a big fallout at Aberdeen over this. Did the management give approval to go out, or did they make their own decisions

Big wake up call to all players

Totally 👍 major questions will have to be asked, nip it in the bud now show the consequences it hopefully won’t happen again.

Professional footballers kicking about pubs in a area that was a cv19 hotspot?

[The 90+2]

Are the players not allowed to socialise?

In the correct circumstances, of course. They knew the risks, their fault to the club.

[Robbo6-2]

Of course they are ‘allowed’ to. In the circumstances it’s not exactly sensible though. Not when they’re meant to be working in a bio secure environment.

I wasny fishing there, genuinely asking if SPFL can go out?

Diodge Newell and few others were up town cupl weeks ago

[overdrive]

Lump on St. Johnstone

The match seems to have disappeared from the bookies.

[Onceinawhile]

Are the players not allowed to socialise?

Not when they're in a sports bubble, I don't think.

[The 90+2]

I wasny fishing there, genuinely asking if SPFL can go out?

Diodge Newell and few others were up town cupl weeks ago

If Edinburgh is a known hot spot and they are kicking about up town I hope there’s a procedure to fine any player doing so under the circumstances.

[Spike Mandela]

No team or set of fans can get on their high horse about this. There but for the grace of god etc etc..

This is going to be one hell of a strange season.

[Gordy M]

If Edinburgh is a known hot spot and they are kicking about up town I hope there’s a procedure to fine any player doing so under the circumstances.

Tbf it wasnt a hotspot at the time, the outbreak has come from the night they were out im sure. Not excusing it though.

[Dunbar Hibee]

The match seems to have disappeared from the bookies.

19/20 on Betfair.

[The 90+2]

Tbf it wasnt a hotspot at the time, the outbreak has come from the night they were out im sure. Not excusing it though.

Sound, I thought the warning was in place from Friday mate.

[JXM73]

I cannae keep up, but whats the limit on meeting other households these days... sure it's no as high as 8 yet

[we are hibs]

Anderson
Kennedy
McGeouch
Ferguson
McKenna
Devlin
Ojo
Bryson

Are the 8 players according to the aberdeen forum. Apparently they were out for former player Graeme Shinnie's birthday as he was up doing the sheep huns game for aberdeen tv

[overdrive]

19/20 on Betfair.

Not on Coral or Bet 365

[Hibs90]

19/20 on Betfair.

Got Saints at 6/4 just after the news.



Also worth noting that Aberdeen players were caught training during lockdown too..

[Hibs90]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_08/IMG-20200806-WA0028.jpg.f93cdfb72de5f1281013ee4758504ff3.jpg

McKenna, Cosgrove, McGeouch, Kennedy in this photo. Not sure who the other guy is, Bryson?

[CapitalGreen]

https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2020_08/IMG-20200806-WA0028.jpg.f93cdfb72de5f1281013ee4758504ff3.jpg

McKenna, Cosgrove, McGeouch, Kennedy in this photo. Not sure who the other guy is, Bryson?

Yeah that’s Bryson facing the camera.

[mjhibby]

No team or set of fans can get on their high horse about this. There but for the grace of god etc etc..

This is going to be one hell of a strange season.

Totally surreal. The cricketers seem to be coping in their bubble bar Joffre archer. Not going to wag the finger but they know the knock on effect of them getting the virus could have big implications. I’m sure if that was us with a player with the virus the press would be putting the boot in with studs up and a straight leg tackle Be interesting to see how the press cover this. I’m sure Richard Gordon will be just saying it’s one of those things.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Anderson
Kennedy
McGeouch
Ferguson
McKenna
Devlin
Ojo
Bryson

Are the 8 players according to the aberdeen forum. Apparently they were out for former player Graeme Shinnie's birthday as he was up doing the sheep huns game for aberdeen tv

That is more than the permitted number of households allowed to meet up in a group indoors or outside.

Plod should be issuing tickets.

[jacomo]

Genuine question: if regular testing is happening, why do the six players who were in ‘close proximity’ but not tested positive need to self-isolate for 14 days?

[The 90+2]

Genuine question: if regular testing is happening, why do the six players who were in ‘close proximity’ but not tested positive need to self-isolate for 14 days?

In some cases it’s not detected at first.

[dp00]

Apparently they are asymptomatic which begs the question how many others are that are spreading it that we don’t know about


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[dp00]

Genuine question: if regular testing is happening, why do the six players who were in ‘close proximity’ but not tested positive need to self-isolate for 14 days?

Is it not to do with how it develops ? You can have it in your system for a set number of days before you test positive


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[JimBHibees]

Interesting that these are two different photos, taken a minute apart. Someone was desperate to spread this news!

If genuine the numpty putting that out needs sacked.

[tamig]

Apparently they are asymptomatic which begs the question how many others are that are spreading it that we don’t know about


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Thats why we need to socially distance, mask up, wash hands etc. Everybody is a potential spreader.

[ancient hibee]

Totally surreal. The cricketers seem to be coping in their bubble bar Joffre archer. Not going to wag the finger but they know the knock on effect of them getting the virus could have big implications. I’m sure if that was us with a player with the virus the press would be putting the boot in with studs up and a straight leg tackle Be interesting to see how the press cover this. I’m sure Richard Gordon will be just saying it’s one of those things.
The press keeps talking about a sporting bubble.It applied at the cricket because all the players and staff from both teams stayed at hotels at the ground and didn’t see their families.Football is different in that apart from the games and training the players are leading “normal”lives.Even so as pubs have opened disease has restarted spreading it shouldn’t be rocket science to think things through before you take a risk.

[Sir David Gray]

That is more than the permitted number of households allowed to meet up in a group indoors or outside.

Plod should be issuing tickets.

Assuming none of the players share a flat then yes it would be a breach of the rules and the police should be giving them some "friendly advice".

[G B Young]

Is it not to do with how it develops ? You can have it in your system for a set number of days before you test positive


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In which case why are the whole Aberdeen squad not self isolating? Presumably they've all trained together since last Saturday and I thought the NHS guidelines stated that you have to self isolate if anyone in your 'bubble' has symptoms or has tested positive. Regular testing is all very well well, but if as you say symptoms don't necessarily show for a number of days it's no guarantee of a clean bill of health. I'm very surprised their trip to Perth has got the go-ahead as things stand.

[Sir David Gray]

In which case why are the whole Aberdeen squad not self isolating? Presumably they've all trained together since last Saturday and I thought the NHS guidelines stated that you have to self isolate if anyone in your 'bubble' has symptoms or has tested positive. Regular testing is all very well well, but if as you say symptoms don't necessarily show for a number of days it's no guarantee of a clean bill of health. I'm very surprised their trip to Perth has got the go-ahead as things stand.

Yep I thought it would have been off.

[Spike Mandela]

Yep I thought it would have been off.

They have very little wriggle room in the fixture list. I think squads will need to be decimated before games get postponed.

This is a real heads up to players of all teams to follow guidelines as best they can.

[1875Sean]

I understand why a lot of these Aberdeen players are getting it in the neck for going out, I seen 5 Hibs players out on Sat trying to get into pubs up town, exactly the same thing the difference is the spike up there

[Rocky]

I understand why a lot of these Aberdeen players are getting it in the neck for going out, I seen 5 Hibs players out on Sat trying to get into pubs up town, exactly the same thing the difference is the spike up there

That's extremely poor if true. I bought a season ticket to pay their wages with no expectation of getting into ER. If (and I repeat if) they're abusing that by breaching Scottish government regulations and putting the team at risk I'll be ****ing livid.

[GonzoReturns]

That's extremely poor if true. I bought a season ticket to pay their wages with no expectation of getting into ER. If (and I repeat if) they're abusing that by breaching Scottish government regulations and putting the team at risk I'll be ****ing livid.

That’s the thing we have supported the club so the players as best we can are paid. If players (any club) are out and as a consequence are infected will their wages be docked!!! It’s crap for everyone and I get it players are human etc but at this time they should not be going out socializing if they want paid. To take the risk is unacceptable and it’s the wider impacts on clubs and those employed.

[Since452]

Good to see the Aberdeen fans condemning these players on their forum. Talk of them having to forefit the next three matches if there are more positive tests today. Their own bloody fault.

[Since452]

That’s the thing we have supported the club so the players as best we can are paid. If players (any club) are out and as a consequence are infected will their wages be docked!!! It’s crap for everyone and I get it players are human etc but at this time they should not be going out socializing if they want paid. To take the risk is unacceptable and it’s the wider impacts on clubs and those employed.

I understand the temptation to go out in Edinburgh on a Saturday night, of course I do but these players have brains. There's a pub literally across the road from me and I've been over once since it reopened. Just don't think it's worth the risk yet. I like a night out as much as the next guy but bloody hell we're still in a pandemic. If I was a professional footballer I'd be taking even more care. Like you say we've dug deep to help the club during this and they have a duty to respect that. I fully understand why Aberdeen fans are livid.

[Chorley Hibee]

In which case why are the whole Aberdeen squad not self isolating? Presumably they've all trained together since last Saturday and I thought the NHS guidelines stated that you have to self isolate if anyone in your 'bubble' has symptoms or has tested positive. Regular testing is all very well well, but if as you say symptoms don't necessarily show for a number of days it's no guarantee of a clean bill of health. I'm very surprised their trip to Perth has got the go-ahead as things stand.

I don't get this either, as you say - surely the whole squad have been together since last Saturday.

[green day]

I understand why a lot of these Aberdeen players are getting it in the neck for going out, I seen 5 Hibs players out on Sat trying to get into pubs up town, exactly the same thing the difference is the spike up there

Pubs plural.

Do you mean this one group of 5 players were queuing to get into more than one pub?

Were you following them round from pub to pub?

[we are hibs]

They should 100% be made to forfeit any games they cant play and opposition given 3 points. Why should other teams schedules be even tighter and difficult because of them?

[Keith_M]

I have to confess that I'm a bit confused about how meeting in a group from more than the allowed number of households in a pub is any more dangerous than doing full physical contact training every day, plus playing at the weekend, with groups from twenty plus households.

Is it the pub environment that makes it more dangerous? Surely pubs are either safe or they're not safe?

I realise people will be able to quote the current rules and legislation but the logic of it all escapes me, as it all seems so random and contradictory.

[B.H.F.C]

I have to confess that I'm a bit confused about how meeting in a group from more than the allowed number of households in a pub is any more dangerous than doing full physical contact training every day, plus playing at the weekend, with groups from twenty plus households.

Is it the pub environment that makes it more dangerous? Surely pubs are either safe or they're not safe?

I realise people will be able to quote the current rules and legislation but the logic of it all escapes me, as it all seems so random and contradictory.

You can’t seriously think them meeting in their group in the pub is comparable to at the training ground?!

[Keith_M]

You can’t seriously think them meeting in their group in the pub is comparable to at the training ground?!


My comment was a little more nuanced than that.

Maybe if I put it in the form of a couple of questions:


What is it that makes meeting in a group from, say, eight households in a pub more dangerous than meeting in the exact same group in full contact training and matches?


If it's the pub (say the enclosed space, for instance), wouldn't that mean that the pub is inherently unsafe and should be just closed down to everybody?

:dunno:

[weecounty hibby]

My comment was a little more nuanced than that.

Maybe if I put it in the form of a question:


What is it that makes meeting in a group from, say, eight households in a pub more dangerous than meeting in the exact same group in full contact training and matches?
Because in the oub there will be all sorts of ransoms in there that haven't been regularly tested and you have no idea of their movements prior to being in the pub with them. The Aberdeen squad will have been undergoing the regular testing regime and I would imagine they have to also have a record of their movements

[Keith_M]

Because in the oub there will be all sorts of ransoms in there that haven't been regularly tested and you have no idea of their movements prior to being in the pub with them. The Aberdeen squad will have been undergoing the regular testing regime and I would imagine they have to also have a record of their movements


OK, if that's the reason (which seems fair enough), then the number of households is totally irrelevant.

The logical conclusion to that is that pubs should be closed down*, not have restrictions to a given number of households at one table.

It's either safe or it's not. I'm honestly struggling with the 'safe for members of two households but not for six' (or whatever) part of it.



* Or at the very least, clubs should tell players they are no go areas.

[hibbysam]

My comment was a little more nuanced than that.

Maybe if I put it in the form of a couple of questions:


What is it that makes meeting in a group from, say, eight households in a pub more dangerous than meeting in the exact same group in full contact training and matches?


If it's the pub (say the enclosed space, for instance), wouldn't that mean that the pub is inherently unsafe and should be just closed down to everybody?

:dunno:

One is outdoor, the other indoor. The training group should be following the same protocol and being tested numerous times per week, the pub when folk are drunk will be less so. It’s clear pubs will be less safe, however the government took that chance. So far there’s only been a handful of pubs falling foul.

[Rocky]

My comment was a little more nuanced than that.

Maybe if I put it in the form of a couple of question:


What is it that makes meeting in a group from, say, eight households in a pub more dangerous than meeting in the exact same group in full contact training and matches?


If it's the pub (say the enclosed space, for instance), wouldn't that mean that the pub is inherently unsafe and should be just closed down to everybody?

:dunno:

1. There's very few cases of outdoor transmission. 2. There's an outbreak in Aberdeen linked to pubs which demonstrates the danger of them 3. Full contact training is recognised to be dangerous *if there's an infected person in the group* which is why there are enhanced testing and behaviour protocols for professional football to avoid infection and identify it quickly if it happens.

Any kind of person to person contact is dangerous to some degree in a pandemic. We can't eliminate all risk though so it needs to be a balance. And that balance needs to include clowns like these taking more personal responsibility.

[B.H.F.C]

My comment was a little more nuanced than that.

Maybe if I put it in the form of a couple of questions:


What is it that makes meeting in a group from, say, eight households in a pub more dangerous than meeting in the exact same group in full contact training and matches?


If it's the pub (say the enclosed space, for instance), wouldn't that mean that the pub is inherently unsafe and should be just closed down to everybody?

:dunno:

Everyone at a training ground has been tested. Temperature checks to enter. There are all sorts of things in place that you don’t need to do when entering a pub where you don’t know who you’ll be mixing with.

I don’t think a pub is inherently unsafe. It’s like anywhere else though in that if anybody is in and has the virus then there is a risk of spreading it.

[weecounty hibby]

OK, if that's the reason (which seems fair enough), then the number of households is totally irrelevant.

The logical conclusion to that is that pubs should be closed down*, not have restrictions to a given number of households at one table.

It's either safe or it's not. I'm honestly struggling with the 'safe for members of two households but not for six' (or whatever) part of it.



* Or at the very least, clubs should tell players they are no go areas.
I agree with you regarding the pubs to an extent. It's not that pubs are necessarily "unsafe" as I would imagine that at opening time when no one is pissed and all following the rules they are as safe as possible. But when folk have a few and then don't give a **** about rules because they are now invincible due to the bevvy that is when they become unsafe.

[CentreLine]

OK, if that's the reason (which seems fair enough), then the number of households is totally irrelevant.

The logical conclusion to that is that pubs should be closed down, not have restrictions to a given number of households at one table.

It's either safe or it's not. I'm honestly struggling with the 'safe for members of two households but not for six' (or whatever) part of it.

If pubs follow the rules then the seating/public space is regulated such that punters arrive, socialise and leave, in their own socially distanced groups. There is anecdotal evidence that people were not socially distancing, were table hopping and mingling in pubs where this should not be allowed to happen. Basically no activity is as people would normally have behaved In these public spaces and if it is familiar and seems totally normal then someone is breaking the rules.

[Brightside]

I understand why a lot of these Aberdeen players are getting it in the neck for going out, I seen 5 Hibs players out on Sat trying to get into pubs up town, exactly the same thing the difference is the spike up there

There is nothing wrong with visiting pubs and restaurants as long as they are following guidelines. Now if it’s 5 players together going on pub crawls that’s a different matter. Can you provide more information?

[Keith_M]

As an aside:

I went for a bar meal yesterday for the first time in 5 months. None of the staff were wearing face coverings and social distancing had gone out the window for most of the customers.

They had a one-way system in place (one door for entrance only and one for exit) but we had to leave through the entrance door as going to the exit would have meant pushing our way past the crowd of guys in the middle of the pub.

This was actually quite early in the evening as well.



Needless to say, we won't be going back

[jonny]

Just heard on Sky Sports that Aberdeen will play their next 3 matches against St Johnstone, Celtic and Hamilton without the 8 players currently isolating.
I don't know everyone they're losing but my Aberdeen supporting mate said McGeough and Lewis Ferguson were in the group.
Big loss.

[Brightside]

My comment was a little more nuanced than that.

Maybe if I put it in the form of a couple of questions:


What is it that makes meeting in a group from, say, eight households in a pub more dangerous than meeting in the exact same group in full contact training and matches?


If it's the pub (say the enclosed space, for instance), wouldn't that mean that the pub is inherently unsafe and should be just closed down to everybody?

:dunno:

The pub is unsafe hence why there are rules to follow in the pubs. They shouldn’t be sitting together in that group. And I’ll assume these pubs are breaking all the rules.

[Springbank]

I sympathise with Keith M's position on this (and I'm someone who would love to see a return to live entertainment / music / indoor venues / and of course a return to crowds in football matches)

But...

This Aberdeen case does really suggest that indoor spaces, and selfish (non-social-distancing) behaviour, is a recipe for spreading a deadly virus.

Until the thing is under control, it's hard to see why indoor spaces like that should be open?

[Brightside]

As an aside:

I went for a bar meal yesterday for the first time in 5 months. None of the staff were wearing face coverings and social distancing had gone out the window for most of the customers.

They had a one-way system in place (one door for entrance only and one for exit) but we had to leave through the entrance door as going to the exit would have meant pushing our way past the crowd of guys in the middle of the pub.

This was actually quite early in the evening as well.



Needless to say, we won't be going back

Name the pub and contact the authorities. There is zero excuse for pubs doing this. If they can’t follow the rules they shouldn’t be open.

[Keith_M]

Name the pub and contact the authorities. There is zero excuse for pubs doing this. If they can’t follow the rules they shouldn’t be open.


Yeah, I think I need to. I've just posted on the Coronavirus thread about it.


Anyway, sorry I kind of hijacked the thread a bit. I suppose my experience has kind of coloured my view on the logic of visiting pubs just now.

[Pretty Green]

I understand why a lot of these Aberdeen players are getting it in the neck for going out, I seen 5 Hibs players out on Sat trying to get into pubs up town, exactly the same thing the difference is the spike up there

I'm not sure what you have seen but there were 5 players out for dinner in Amerone on Saturday night. I didn't see anything showing them queueing to get into pubs.

[green day]

Yeah, I think I need to to. I've just posted on the Coronavirus thread about it.


Anyway, sorry I kind of hijacked the thread a bit. I suppose my experience has kind of coloured my view on the logic of visiting pubs just now.

I would be annoyed as well. Wife and I out for meal last night, first time in months (near mother in law's, Bridge of Allan).

All safe, staff doing the right thing masks on etc. Very happy with it.

Your experience demonstrates why some environment are better than others.

As Jason leitch said last week - if somewhere looks too busy, just walk away. I would hope that players are getting this message too.

[Keith_M]

I would be annoyed as well. Wife and I out for meal last night, first time in months (near mother in law's, Bridge of Allan).

All safe, staff doing the right thing masks on etc. Very happy with it.

Your experience demonstrates why some environment are better than others.

As Jason leitch said last week - if somewhere looks too busy, just walk away. I would hope that players are getting this message too.


Bridge of Allan v south side of Glasgow.

That's a no brainer :wink:

[Since90+2]

I sympathise with Keith M's position on this (and I'm someone who would love to see a return to live entertainment / music / indoor venues / and of course a return to crowds in football matches)

But...

This Aberdeen case does really suggest that indoor spaces, and selfish (non-social-distancing) behaviour, is a recipe for spreading a deadly virus.

Until the thing is under control, it's hard to see why indoor spaces like that should be open?

Because it's about mitigating the risk as much as possible. A vaccine may never arrive and therefore the virus may never be fully under control, you can't just close indoor spaces forever.

[Santa Cruz]

Apparently they are asymptomatic which begs the question how many others are that are spreading it that we don’t know about


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53665008

[Santa Cruz]

Genuine question: if regular testing is happening, why do the six players who were in ‘close proximity’ but not tested positive need to self-isolate for 14 days?

Because that's the protocol Public Health follow and contact tracers will have identified them and advised them to isolate for 14 days which is the incubation period when at any point they could develop symptoms. They also may be asymptomatic carriers and not develop symptoms but would still be infectious.

[Bristolhibby]

OK, if that's the reason (which seems fair enough), then the number of households is totally irrelevant.

The logical conclusion to that is that pubs should be closed down*, not have restrictions to a given number of households at one table.

It's either safe or it's not. I'm honestly struggling with the 'safe for members of two households but not for six' (or whatever) part of it.



* Or at the very least, clubs should tell players they are no go areas.

It’s not digital though. It’s all about numbers (keeping contacts down) and sticking to the rules.

Fancy a pint, go to your local. Book a table, get table service, get your details registered. Drink your drink, go home.

We’ve all seen the piss taking pictures of city centre bars, backed to the gunnels with people queuing cheek-to-cheek, beer gardens packed.

It’s not on! It’s spoiling it for the rest of us who would be happy with a pint with our mates.

Was having this debate with my mate at a BBQ last weekend. Don’t try and reason with the rules, just accept that the main aim is to reduce contact points, while trying to keep the economy turning. Too much either way and we have a problem.

Follow the rules and we should get through this.

Take the piss and we are back in lockdown.

J

[Steven79]

I would be annoyed as well. Wife and I out for meal last night, first time in months (near mother in law's, Bridge of Allan).

All safe, staff doing the right thing masks on etc. Very happy with it.

Your experience demonstrates why some environment are better than others.

As Jason leitch said last week - if somewhere looks too busy, just walk away. I would hope that players are getting this message too.

The Birds & Bees?

[Bristolhibby]

On a related point and taking into consideration the nonsense our neighbours put the SPFL through.

You must assume that the SPFL have published detailed COVID protocol for the league in regards to teams being able to play fixtures.

What happens when a certain amount of players contract COVID?
What happens when all goalies, say, contract COVID?
What happens when there’s local lockdown, like in Aberdeen?

They can’t just be making this up on the hoof again.

The cause and effect of scenarios must be spelt out now. And if not, WTF have they been doing since March?

J

[Santa Cruz]

I reckon the players get tested but are still mixing with different family members and the public regularly so kind of makes a mockery of it all.

They aren’t in a bubble as such and with Saturday very close going to be interesting to see what happens.

As pointed out the English league just got on with it but i think they were testing more often - I don’t think Scotland has the money to operate like the English leagues.

A lot of them will have kids going back to school next week mixing with multiple households. This makes the bubble unworkable, they can't be expected to isolate from their immediate family indefinitely.

[BlackSheep]

Apparently they are asymptomatic which begs the question how many others are that are spreading it that we don’t know about

This is exactly the reason why we have all been asked to wear masks and continue social distancing, and at a very minimum only leave the home if it’s essential!

This virus has been spread for months and months by asymptomatic carriers, if it’s only hitting home for people now because a few footballers have tested positive but are asymptomatic then I guess we are all up the creek without a paddle!!!!

[Bristolhibby]

The pub is unsafe hence why there are rules to follow in the pubs. They shouldn’t be sitting together in that group. And I’ll assume these pubs are breaking all the rules.

Licensing authorities need to be out on Saturday nights shutting them down LIVE.

Really send a message.

J

[weecounty hibby]

Keith, I would also urge you to report that restaurant. My wife has been pretty ill for 4 months now after having Covid and it makes me very angry when I see and hear about things like this. Nowhere will be completely safe but following the rules will make it as safe as possible and those who don't or won't need to be called out.

[Ozyhibby]

On a related point and taking into consideration the nonsense our neighbours put the SPFL through.

You must assume that the SPFL have published detailed COVID protocol for the league in regards to teams being able to play fixtures.

What happens when a certain amount of players contract COVID?
What happens when all goalies, say, contract COVID?
What happens when there’s local lockdown, like in Aberdeen?

They can’t just be making this up on the hoof again.

The cause and effect of scenarios must be spelt out now. And if not, WTF have they been doing since March?

J

I’m pretty sure Aberdeen will not want this fixture cancelled no matter how disadvantaged they are. That goes for all clubs. The show must go on no matter what. The alternative is too much for the clubs to bare.


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[Gloucester Hibs]

I’m pretty sure Aberdeen will not want this fixture cancelled no matter how disadvantaged they are. That goes for all clubs. The show must go on no matter what. The alternative is too much for the clubs to bare.


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It’s a Sky game too, not that that should have any influence on whether to call the game off mind you.

[Moulin Yarns]

Or as he put it Prediction


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Except he posted it as fact, then edited it.


And was proved wrong (edited :wink: )

[Santa Cruz]

My comment was a little more nuanced than that.

Maybe if I put it in the form of a couple of questions:


What is it that makes meeting in a group from, say, eight households in a pub more dangerous than meeting in the exact same group in full contact training and matches?


If it's the pub (say the enclosed space, for instance), wouldn't that mean that the pub is inherently unsafe and should be just closed down to everybody?

:dunno:

Yes, it spreads more easily indoors. That's why so many non-essential offices are still closed, and more and more indoor settings will likely see mask wearing mandatory soon. Lack of ventilation is a problem for most pubs and from the photo's posted, they were not socially distancing.

[King Cosell]

Didn't start on Saturday, I'd fancy them against St Johnstone. Don't lump all your money on, Aberdeen will still be competitive.

Dabrowski

Gray
McGregor
Jackson
Stevenson

Horgan
Hallberg
Mallan
Murray

Doige
Gullan

[1875Sean]

Pubs plural.

Do you mean this one group of 5 players were queuing to get into more than one pub?

Were you following them round from pub to pub?

No need to sound like I am making stuff up, I came out a pub in the Grassmarket and there were 5 Hibs players together trying to get in as I was leaving, as most places you had to prebook they were refused entry, they then went onto try and get into other pubs, don’t know if they had any luck but my point is everyone is having a go at these Aberdeen players when there were Hibs players trying to do the same thing, even if they didn’t get in anywhere they tried too

[Since90+2]

No need to sound like I am making stuff up, I came out a pub in the Grassmarket and there were 5 Hibs players together trying to get in as I was leaving, as most places you had to prebook they were refused entry, they then went onto try and get into other pubs, don’t know if they had any luck but my point is everyone is having a go at these Aberdeen players when there were Hibs players trying to do the same thing, even if they didn’t get in anywhere they tried too

Which players?

[CropleyWasGod]

No need to sound like I am making stuff up, I came out a pub in the Grassmarket and there were 5 Hibs players together trying to get in as I was leaving, as most places you had to prebook they were refused entry, they then went onto try and get into other pubs, don’t know if they had any luck but my point is everyone is having a go at these Aberdeen players when there were Hibs players trying to do the same thing, even if they didn’t get in anywhere they tried too

If there were Hibs players at it, the Club will know. They will take the appropriate action.

[green day]

The Birds & Bees?

La Cucina on BofA main Street. Was excellent 👍

Didn't go to the pub, Westerton is just along but always full of Huns.

[1875Sean]

If there were Hibs players at it, the Club will know. They will take the appropriate action.

My point wasn’t to out Hibs players which is why I am not naming them just highlighting it’s not just the Aberdeen players who’s been out, hopefully with what’s happened to them will make players take note

[green day]

my point is everyone is having a go at these Aberdeen players when there were Hibs players trying to do the same thing, even if they didn’t get in anywhere they tried too

Not sure everyone having a go at Aberdeen players, and I would be really surprised if our players were not out too.

Cheers

[mjhibby]

I’m pretty sure Aberdeen will not want this fixture cancelled no matter how disadvantaged they are. That goes for all clubs. The show must go on no matter what. The alternative is too much for the clubs to bare.


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They will just grin and bear it. The implications are indeed horrendous if we start postponing games. Every club can just follow all necessary protocols and hope for the best. It could really affect the dons season but I’m sure McInnes will install the siege mentality and they will be even more brutal if that’s possible.

[CropleyWasGod]

My point wasn’t to out Hibs players which is why I am not naming them just highlighting it’s not just the Aberdeen players who’s been out, hopefully with what’s happened to them will make players take note

I think you just have, though. :wink:

[Since452]

Aberdeen game now off

[Keith_M]

Keith, I would also urge you to report that restaurant. My wife has been pretty ill for 4 months now after having Covid and it makes me very angry when I see and hear about things like this. Nowhere will be completely safe but following the rules will make it as safe as possible and those who don't or won't need to be called out.


Sorry to hear that mate.

Following advice on the coronavirus thread, I've got in touch with the pub management to make them aware of the situation first, to give them the opportunity to do something about it. I know other people that occasionally go to the beer garden, so they're going to check if anything changes and take it from there.

[mjhibby]

Aberdeen game now off

Mind reading not one of my many skills. Could they not have announced it five mins ago so I wouldn’t spout a lot of nonsense. Thanks guys.🤣

[Ozyhibby]

Aberdeen game now off

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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[04Sauzee]

Wonder if they can play Hamilton?
Wonder when the fixture will be played?

[green day]

Aberdeen game now off
Might be a blessing in disguise. All other clubs will warn players and hopefully all learn from it.

[Ozyhibby]

Might be a blessing in disguise. All other clubs will warn players and hopefully all learn from it.

You would hope that this is where Gray and McGregor will earn their bumper 4 year never playing contracts. Our squad discipline is going to have to be exemplary from now on.


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[B.H.F.C]

Wonder if they can play Hamilton?
Wonder when the fixture will be played?

The initial statement made it clear that there had been a breach of protocol.

If that’s been the case, they shouldn’t need to worry about when it’s played.

[Keith_M]

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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Totally agree, Ozy.

That would send out a strong message to the clubs and then there would be no messing when it came to discussions with their players.

[RyeSloan]

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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I agree.

The club, through the players, have shown total disregard to the protocols in place and therefore should suffer the consequences.

I’d also expect the league or the SFA (never quite sure who’s policing the rules) to bring some sort of sanction.

[CropleyWasGod]

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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Is it not the case that the rules have been drafted by the SFA? Hence, points deductions are unlikely, although forfeiting games might be in these specific rules.

It's more likely to be a fine, as a first offence.

[JimBHibees]

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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Absolutely should be given to Saints.

[green day]

You would hope that this is where Gray and McGregor will earn their bumper 4 year never playing contracts. Our squad discipline is going to have to be exemplary from now on.


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Agreed 100%. While the guys can go out, they need to be sensible.

[Since452]

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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Agreed. Very unfair on St Johnstone having game postponed through no fault of their own

[Onceinawhile]

Surely can't postpone just one of the games, surely all three need binned?

[marinello59]

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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Agreed.
Award a 3-0 win to St Johnstone. Aberdeen were unable to fulfil the fixture due to the reckless actions of their own staff.

[CapitalGreen]

Surely can't postpone just one of the games, surely all three need binned?

The postponement of the St Johnstone game may be to give them time to get follow up test results back for other players.

[Greencore]

Game off https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5901224/aberdeens-st-johnstone-off-coronavirus/

[Since452]

There will be a lot of livid Aberdeen fans right now and rightly so.

[B.H.F.C]

Sheep will get away with it if it’s not them calling it off. Joke.

[hibee_girl]

Points should go to St. Johnstone. There has been a clear breach of rules by Aberdeen players. Different if they had just been unlucky but they were not.


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:agree:

[Sir David Gray]

Given that their players attended the pub in breach of national guidelines, the points should go to St Johnstone and the players should be spoken to by the police (if they haven't already been spoken to).

[danhibees1875]

Given that their players attended the pub in breach of national guidelines, the points should go to St Johnstone and the players should be spoken to by the police (if they haven't already been spoken to).

Was the breach just the number of households present?


£2.5k fine incoming.

[Andy74]

I’m not sure giving the points to the opposition is the right answer.

It obviously would be a punishment for Aberdeen but it is also unfair on other teams that will still have to play Aberdeen for St Johnstone to be sitting with 3 points from them.

[King Cosell]

Agreed.
Award a 3-0 win to St Johnstone. Aberdeen were unable to fulfil the fixture due to the reckless actions of their own staff.

Aberdeen didn't call the game off, they were prepared to play.

[Ryan91]

It's actions like this that could jeapordise the season in it's entirety, players have a right to be able to do things outside of football, but they NEED to be sensible, hopefully it serves as a warning to other players who may be tempted to skirt the rules a little.

[marinello59]

Aberdeen didn't call the game off, they were prepared to play.

If they can’t play it’s because of their own actions. It doesn’t matter whether they called it off or not. Football has been given special dispensation to operate through this pandemic and they failed to comply. They have to be punished.

[we are hibs]

I’m not sure giving the points to the opposition is the right answer.

It obviously would be a punishment for Aberdeen but it is also unfair on other teams that will still have to play Aberdeen for St Johnstone to be sitting with 3 points from them.

Its either that or st.johnstone are punished by adding another game to a potentially hectic schedule through no fault of their own. I dont think anything other than 3 points awarded is fair.

[Rocky]

Considering there's no real impact on fans from moving a game I wonder if Sky might look to move one of the 3pm kick offs to 12.30 to fill the gap in the schedule. If not, I hope any penalty from breach of the Sky contract is paid by Aberdeen.

[overdrive]

Its either that or st.johnstone are punished by adding another game to a potentially hectic schedule through no fault of their own. I dont think anything other than 3 points awarded is fair.

Yep, add in that depending on when the game is played, Aberdeen could have their best striker back from injury and one of their key defenders back from suspension so it may actually reward Aberdeen if the game was rescheduled.

[BILLYHIBS]

St Johnstone v Aberdeen

Postponed

SSN

[Sir David Gray]

Sturgeon;

All 8 Aberdeen players have broken the rules of the SFA, SPFL and the Scottish Government.

They have put the return of football at risk.

[danhibees1875]

If they had concerns about transmission between those 8 and the rest of the squad then fair enough. Otherwise the game should have went ahead.

Setting this precedent (assuming they'll cancel all 3) makes it feel more likely we'll not see this season out to a conclusion either.

[Halmyre Hibee]

Considering there's no real impact on fans from moving a game I wonder if Sky might look to move one of the 3pm kick offs to 12.30 to fill the gap in the schedule. If not, I hope any penalty from breach of the Sky contract is paid by Aberdeen.

Was thinking that myself hopefully the Hibs game.

[Sir David Gray]

Was the breach just the number of households present?


£2.5k fine incoming.

There may have been other breaches but that was certainly one of them. Only 3 households are allowed to meet indoors at the moment, this isn't just in private homes, it includes pubs and restaurants.

[AugustaHibs]

Sfa confirm game postponed. What a joke

[bigwheel]

If they had concerns about transmission between those 8 and the rest of the squad then fair enough. Otherwise the game should have went ahead.

Setting this precedent (assuming they'll cancel all 3) makes it feel more likely we'll not see this season out to a conclusion either.


think the government is sending a message to SPFL and the teams that breaking the health & safety rules will not be tolerated, in an attempt to get discipline retained. If it isn't, then indeed football is likely to suffer further. Can't blame the government on this one.

[King Cosell]

Considering there's no real impact on fans from moving a game I wonder if Sky might look to move one of the 3pm kick offs to 12.30 to fill the gap in the schedule. If not, I hope any penalty from breach of the Sky contract is paid by Aberdeen.

If they show Livi/hibs, I'll be watching with £20 worth of food & drink. :cb

[danhibees1875]

think the government is sending a message to SPFL and the teams that breaking the health & safety rules will not be tolerated, in an attempt to get discipline retained. If it isn't, then indeed football is likely to suffer further. Can't blame the government on this one.

I thought the government wanted/didn't care if it was played? Sounds like it's the SPFL who have called it off - presumably after being lobbied to do so by Aberdeen.

I certainly wasn't blaming the government.

[hibee_girl]

I thought the government wanted/didn't care if it was played? Sounds like it's the SPFL who have called it off - presumably after being lobbied to do so by Aberdeen.

I certainly wasn't blaming the government.

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/coronavirus-joint-response-group-update-7-august/

The government asked for it to be called off

[Green Badger]

Sfa confirm game postponed. What a joke

From the perspective of health risk postponing is the correct decision. However whether the game should be cancelled and the points awarded to St J is a different matter. There is clear evidence Aberdeen players were not unlucky but broke the rules given to every club, hence there is maybe an argument they should lose the points as a result.

[we are hibs]

I thought the government wanted/didn't care if it was played? Sounds like it's the SPFL who have called it off - presumably after being lobbied to do so by Aberdeen.

I certainly wasn't blaming the government.

Sfa statement suggests the goverment advised for the game to be off. St.johnstone saying it will be rearranged which is farcical

[Del Boy]

Motherwell v United now on sky tomorrow

[Rocky]

If they show Livi/hibs, I'll be watching with £20 worth of food & drink. :cb
I've already bought my PPV ticket. Aberdeen can pay for that anaw.

[Spike Mandela]

Aberdeen need to throw the book at their offending players if not the SFA should. For once in your life SFA govern the ****ing game.

[weecounty hibby]

Aberdeen need to throw the book at their offending players if not the SFA should. For once in your life SFA govern the ****ing game.

What do you really think about the SFA?

[B.H.F.C]

Aberdeen need to throw the book at their offending players if not the SFA should. For once in your life SFA govern the ****ing game.

They won’t. Everyone will hide behind the fact that it was the government wanting it off.

[marinello59]

They won’t. Everyone will hide behind the fact that it was the government wanting it off.

That would be a dangerous game to play given how hard the Government worked with the football authorities to get football played at all.

[Billy Whizz]

Motherwell v United now on sky tomorrow

What time Ko

[weecounty hibby]

That will be a dangerois game to play given how hard the Government worked with the football authorities to get football played at all.

I agree, if they don't take a hard line in this then the government could easily stop the games going ahead at all for months. There are loads of activities that haven't been allowed to start back up yet. I think they were keen to get the likes of football started but won't hesitate to halt it again if things like that happen regularly