Jackson Carlaw

[Moulin Yarns]

Has resigned

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Step forward Mad Dog Murdo?

[JeMeSouviens]

Ruth back to save the Union?

[JeMeSouviens]

To be fair to the guy, at least he has been self-aware enough to realise he's hopeless.

[SHODAN]

Why?

[weecounty hibby]

Annie Wells, Murdo Fraser. The talent in the the Tories has no beginning!!

[Moulin Yarns]

Tompkins?

[lapsedhibee]

Annie Wells, Murdo Fraser. The talent in the the Tories has no beginning!!

Could Natalie Elphicke be tempted north for the gig? She's been holding hands with Charlie going in to the courtroom this week, and now dumped him at the verdict. Clearly has the morals to be a Tory leader.

[degenerated]

Has resignedRetiring to take time to sit back and admire his collection of paintings?

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[weecounty hibby]

Tompkins?

Think he is stepping down at next election. Rats and sinking ship comes to mind. All they have is the union and it is crumbling before their eyes.

[Keith_M]

Retiring to take time to sit back and admire his collection of paintings?

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He heard that 'I'm a Celebrity...' is being filmed in Shetland this year and didn't want to miss out on his chance at fame.

[stoneyburn hibs]

He was good at being a Tory.

[JeMeSouviens]

The Beeb's Nick Eardley reports that Douglas Ross (the lino) is on his way north.

[Barney McGrew]

Douglas Ross to replace him?

[G B Young]

To be fair to the guy, at least he has been self-aware enough to realise he's hopeless.

He was OK standing in for Davidson, but he was clearly the wrong choice for leader. Like his Scottish Labour, Lib Dem and Green counterparts he's all but anonymous with voters and just lacks the clout to make Holyrood anything more than the Nicola Sturgeon show. The dearth of politicians with charisma across all parties is the biggest problem with the Scottish Parliament. Watching FM's questions is sterile in the extreme.

[Moulin Yarns]

The Beeb's Nick Eardley reports that Douglas Ross (the lino) is on his way north.

Win/win

Incompetent as a politician and no longer an incompetent football official

[Mr Grieves]

The Beeb's Nick Eardley reports that Douglas Ross (the lino) is on his way north.

And Baroness Davidson to stand in at fmqs until Ross becomes an msp

[The Modfather]

Who?

[G B Young]

Win/win

Incompetent as a politician and no longer an incompetent football official

Ross would be a good appointment IMHO. Overturning Angus Robertson's hefty majority (circa 10,000?) to win his Moray seat shows he has significant voter appeal plus his stance over the Cummings controversy might also stand him in good stead with a proportion of the electorate.

He'd certainly be an enormous improvement on Carlaw and with Westminster experience behind him may bring a bit more backbone to the Holyrood Tories.

[weecounty hibby]

He was OK standing in for Davidson, but he was clearly the wrong choice for leader. Like his Scottish Labour, Lib Dem and Green counterparts he's all but anonymous with voters and just lacks the clout to make Holyrood anything more than the Nicola Sturgeon show. The dearth of politicians with charisma across all parties is the biggest problem with the Scottish Parliament. Watching FM's questions is sterile in the extreme.
That is almost like Jackson Carlaw and how he spoke about the FM. You are making the mistake of thinking that because there has been a procession of Tory and Labour leaders who have come and gone that NS isn't a superb politician. Just today voted in the top five world leaders by an independent (no pun intended) group.

[degenerated]

Douglas Ross to replace him?It will be an mp sitting at westminster so that nicola sturgeon is seen to have to engage with a deputy at first ministers questions.




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[degenerated]

Win/win

Incompetent as a politician and no longer an incompetent football officialTravelling people in Scotland will be dismayed should that be true.

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[grunt]

Douglas Ross to replace him?This guy? https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/uk-politics/2366567/standards-watchdog-blasted-for-shambolic-investigation-into-ross-thomson-grope-incident/


Ross would be a good appointment IMHO. Overturning Angus Robertson's hefty majority (circa 10,000?) to win his Moray seat shows he has significant voter appeal plus his stance over the Cummings controversy might also stand him in good stead with a proportion of the electorate.A seat he holds with a "massive" majority of 531 votes.

[degenerated]

This guy? https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/uk-politics/2366567/standards-watchdog-blasted-for-shambolic-investigation-into-ross-thomson-grope-incident/

A seat he holds with a "massive" majority of 531 votes.Your thinking of Ross Thomson, the pervert rather than Douglas Ross, the racist.

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[weecounty hibby]

If it is Ross then that means that at FMQs it will be the deputy leader who will be up against NS. That is Annie Wells, :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

[lapsedhibee]

If it is Ross then that means that at FMQs it will be the deputy leader who will be up against NS. That is Annie Wells, :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Or Lady Davidson.

[degenerated]

If it is Ross then that means that at FMQs it will be the deputy leader who will be up against NS. That is Annie Wells, :faf::faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:A deliberate ploy to try and show that elected representatives in Scotland are not worthy of those who sit at westminster.

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[Mibbes Aye]

If I was a betting man, I would consider laying an outside wager on Rachael Hamilton.

[Kato]

Watching FM's questions is sterile in the extreme.


Is that not just a perception invoked because MSP's don't bawl, haw-haw and growl at each other or drape themselves across the benches pretending to be awake?

[weecounty hibby]

Or Lady Davidson.
Actually the strong rumour is that action woman Lady Ruth of the battlefield will be fronting FMQs. Imagine being the deputy leader and being told to just sit there and be quiet. The English government are ****ting themselves about Scotland and their last few pieces of empire. Davidson being trotted out due to her being the staunchest of the staunch

[Kato]

Actually the strong rumour is that action woman Lady Ruth of the battlefield will be fronting FMQs. Imagine being the deputy leader and being told to just sit there and be quiet. The English government are ****ting themselves about Scotland and their last few pieces of empire. Davidson being trotted out due to her being the staunchest of the staunch

Is the battlefield the Boyne given her popularity among the drum beaters?

[grunt]

Your thinking of Ross Thomson, the pervert rather than Douglas Ross, the racist.

Sent from my SM-G977B using TapatalkHaha sorry! My apologies especially to GB Young.

[ronaldo7]

Step forward Sir Edward Mountain. We could have a baronet on one side, and the bayonets on the other. They could both put the boot in, even those with a small c conservatism.

[cabbageandribs1875]

He was good at being a Tory.


spot on :aok: scottish tory msp's are quite unpleasant creatures, much like westminster ones, damn that list vote for holyrood

i'd love murder fraser as their next leader, he has to win a vote sometime in his career..surely

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Never managed to lay a glove on Nicola. Gone before he was pushed.

[JeMeSouviens]

Never managed to lay a glove on Nicola. Gone before he was pushed.

By all accounts, actually pushed. Pretending he was resigning was his last request.

[Glory Lurker]

Carson Jacklaw would be a great name for a 1930s American P.I.

[SHODAN]

How will Ross get parachuted in? Will they force another MSP to step down?

No doubt he'll somehow have an excuse to remain Moray MP too so as not to force a by-election that they'll inevitably lose.

[CloudSquall]

How will Ross get parachuted in? Will they force another MSP to step down?

No doubt he'll somehow have an excuse to remain Moray MP too so as not to force a by-election that they'll inevitably lose.

They are thinking of putting him at the top of the Highlands and Islands list so he can do a Murdo and get in on the list vote.

[Beefster]

They are thinking of putting him at the top of the Highlands and Islands list so he can do a Murdo and get in on the list vote.

As much as I dislike Murdo Fraser...

I could be misremembering but didn’t Sturgeon spend the first two terms of the Scottish Parliament in there as a list MSP? If so, she did it before Fraser so should really get the privilege of naming rights, if we’re going to look down on list MSPs (which I don’t btw).

[ronaldo7]

By all accounts, actually pushed. Pretending he was resigning was his last request.

It looks like Ruth put the boot in before realizing it was Jackson lying there.

Spoken to on July 26th on how to save the union, Carlaw gone by the 30th. Ruthless

[CloudSquall]

As much as I dislike Murdo Fraser...

I could be misremembering but didn’t Sturgeon spend the first two terms of the Scottish Parliament in there as a list MSP? If so, she did it before Fraser so should really get the privilege of naming rights, if we’re going to look down on list MSPs (which I don’t btw).

Murdo's lost 7 times, he's won (ironically) the right to be the King of sneaking in on the list.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Nice Sevco themed logo from Mr Lino. :wink:

How come a guy who's only just announced he's standing for leader asks Baroness Ruth to stand in at FMQs? Isn't that a little presumptive? Or is that only if he wins?

Sounds like he's the anointed choice anyway, which is a little surprising given his stance over Dom.

[ronaldo7]

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Nice Sevco themed logo from Mr Lino. :wink:

How come a guy who's only just announced he's standing for leader asks Baroness Ruth to stand in at FMQs? Isn't that a little presumptive? Or is that only if he wins?

Sounds like he's the anointed choice anyway, which is a little surprising given his stance over Dom.

Wee Annie, asleep at the wheel. I thought deputies normally step up when the captain falls.

[Mr Grieves]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeP2s5uXoAAAhlE?format=png&name=medium

Nice Sevco themed logo from Mr Lino. :wink:

How come a guy who's only just announced he's standing for leader asks Baroness Ruth to stand in at FMQs? Isn't that a little presumptive? Or is that only if he wins?

Sounds like he's the anointed choice anyway, which is a little surprising given his stance over Dom.

Apparently he'll continue as an MP until the next general election, and as a lino.

[Mr Grieves]

Bit of turmoil in the Scottish Conservatives, lovely.

Michelle Ballantyne, MSP “I’m happy he’s gone. I never though he was the right person. I think the party did make a bad choice in making him leader.”

Adam Tomkins, MSP “That’s just laughable from Michelle. Michelle doesn’t know what she is talking about. The only thing that we need to remember about Michelle is she was beaten 75/25 in a two horse race by Jackson Carlaw only a few months ago. I’m afraid that Michelle doesn’t speak for the party. She speaks only for herself.”

[Glory Lurker]

A Ross and Davidson tag team will, annoyingly, be much more effective than what's there at the moment. The media can fairly give Davidson prominence where they couldn't while Carlaw was leader. It'll definitely help rally the unionist vote, although it didn't in December.

I think this makes the potential vote splitting on the list by new indy entrants really mouth-watering for the unionist side.

A good end to the week for the No side, unfortunately.

[degenerated]

A Ross and Davidson tag team will, annoyingly, be much more effective than what's there at the moment. The media can fairly give Davidson prominence where they couldn't while Carlaw was leader. It'll definitely help rally the unionist vote, although it didn't in December.

I think this makes the potential vote splitting on the list by new indy entrants really mouth-watering for the unionist side.

A good end to the week for the No side, unfortunately.Davidson is a vacuous loadmouth who has no consistent view point on anything. The minute she is questioned she goes into hiding.
Notwithstanding the fact that she has tried and failed at besting the SNP at the ballot box and in Holyrood and has failed at every turn.
I cant see what serial quitter Douglas Ross is likely to bring to the table other than to prop up the no surrender vote for the tories, alongside that he comes across as a snide with racist tendencies.

I doubt that Nicola Sturgeon is bothered in the slightest that the party has sacked the branch leader and is dictating who gets the gig.

Sometimes its worth realising that its not the captain but the ship thats not fit for purpose.



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[Ozyhibby]

Sounds like Carlaw was dealt as gently by London as Ceaușescu was by the Romanian people. And Ross was clearly appointed by London.


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[GlesgaeHibby]

Apparently he'll continue as an MP until the next general election, and as a lino.

That approach worked well for Labour with Jim Murphy...

[G B Young]

That approach worked well for Labour with Jim Murphy...

You'd assume they'll have taken that fiasco into consideration. What a disaster for Scottish Labour that turned out to be.

[G B Young]

Is that not just a perception invoked because MSP's don't bawl, haw-haw and growl at each other or drape themselves across the benches pretending to be awake?

I never watch PMQs. I loathe the supposed 'great theatre' of the Commons with its braying benches of rival factions. I actually prefer the set-up of the Holyrood chamber, but I just find the FMQs very dry. Since Davidson stepped down Sturgeon has lacked a rival leader to spar with who has a bit of character and clout and there's a sense she's just going through the motions. Hopefully if Ross is appointed he'll bring a bit of that to the table.

[CloudSquall]

It will be interesting at least to see if the Davidson sequel will have as much an effect as her first stint, will the idea of her being a seat warmer dampen her ability to claw back support?

Also I'm not seeing yet anything impressive about Ross, Jim Murphy was heading Labour after being in amongst the big boys at Labour Westminster and he still get his backside handed to him by the SNP.

I can see his appeal to the chip on the shoulder, has a problem with everyone and everything North East unionist (spent 3 years studying in Aberdeen, I can say this :greengrin), but further afield? I'm not seeing it yet.

[Kato]

I never watch PMQs. I loathe the supposed 'great theatre' of the Commons with its braying benches of rival factions. I actually prefer the set-up of the Holyrood chamber, but I just find the FMQs very dry. Since Davidson stepped down Sturgeon has lacked a rival leader to spar with who has a bit of character and clout and there's a sense she's just going through the motions. Hopefully if Ross is appointed he'll bring a bit of that to the table.

Fair point.