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Hibs90
23-07-2020, 07:31 PM
"The Scottish government has been informed that the Paisley club has returned several positive Covid-19 tests in the last 24 hours.
We understand no players have yet gone down with the virus but safety measures have now been implemented to shut the club down while further testing is carried out."

Will this impact the start of the season then? Or will it be a case of their fixture is postponed?

04Sauzee
23-07-2020, 07:32 PM
Was just about to post this

ronaldo7
23-07-2020, 07:33 PM
"The Scottish government has been informed that the Paisley club has returned several positive Covid-19 tests in the last 24 hours.
We understand no players have yet gone down with the virus but safety measures have now been implemented to shut the club down while further testing is carried out."

Will this impact the start of the season then? Or will it be a case of their fixture is postponed?

Jambos will just take their place.

TheGog
23-07-2020, 07:35 PM
"The Scottish government has been informed that the Paisley club has returned several positive Covid-19 tests in the last 24 hours.
We understand no players have yet gone down with the virus but safety measures have now been implemented to shut the club down while further testing is carried out."


Will this impact the start of the season then? Or will it be a case of their fixture is postponed?

Can't see it having a impact, EPL had multiple positive cases before it started up again we have only found one. Id imagine it will all be okay

Sir David Gray
23-07-2020, 07:35 PM
"The Scottish government has been informed that the Paisley club has returned several positive Covid-19 tests in the last 24 hours.
We understand no players have yet gone down with the virus but safety measures have now been implemented to shut the club down while further testing is carried out."

Will this impact the start of the season then? Or will it be a case of their fixture is postponed?

I don't see why it should impact the start of the whole season but their own first fixture must be in serious doubt.

B.H.F.C
23-07-2020, 07:41 PM
Whenever anybody down south has tested positive down south, it hasn’t stopped any fixtures going ahead. If it’s spread throughout the club that’s obviously a bit different I suppose.

mjhibby
23-07-2020, 07:44 PM
Can't see it having a impact, EPL had multiple positive cases before it started up again we have only found one. Id imagine it will all be okay

It may or may not have an impact on the season but it’s inevitable some players will get the virus. What are the protocols of a team has a few with it when the season starts or is it just isolation for two weeks and regular testing for the squad. Could potentially be a problem but fingers crossed it’s not. Btw shouldn’t we be outraged at this news. Nope. We’re hibs class and don’t do such nonsense.

G B Young
23-07-2020, 07:53 PM
If those infected have been using the same facilities as the rest of the club staff then does everyone not have to isolate for 14 days?

H18 SFR
23-07-2020, 07:55 PM
If those infected have been using the same facilities as the rest of the club staff then does everyone not have to isolate for 14 days?

Don’t think so. It certainly wasn’t the case at my work.

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23-07-2020, 07:57 PM
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matty_f
23-07-2020, 07:58 PM
Wonder if there’s a chance that the tests were faulty.

dp00
23-07-2020, 08:01 PM
7 positive test would make me worry that they aren’t following the rules tbh

Even when it’s been other clubs it’s been one person, this has clearly be spread at the club


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Brummie_Hibs
23-07-2020, 08:03 PM
There are reports of somenody running away from the St Mirren training ground yesterday, who is suspected of deliberately spreading the virus.

Authorites are looking to question an old coughing women with strawberry blonde hair and a haggared, flushed complextion, wearing a brownish/reddish plaid jacket.

Viva_Palmeiras
23-07-2020, 08:05 PM
How long since we played them?

Viva_Palmeiras
23-07-2020, 08:06 PM
7 positive test would make me worry that they aren’t following the rules tbh

Even when it’s been other clubs it’s been one person, this has clearly be spread at the club


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problem with asymptomatic folks milling about.

Onceinawhile
23-07-2020, 08:09 PM
How long since we played them?

We've had tests since then so hopefully should be alright.

Since452
23-07-2020, 08:24 PM
A wee reminder that this isn't going away yet

The 90+2
23-07-2020, 08:26 PM
Let’s hope they are all okay.

Golden Bear
23-07-2020, 08:30 PM
If St Mirren as a Club have got to go into quarantine for 14 days then it will affect their start of the season. Let's hope there's no knock on effect for Scottish Football as a whole.

h18eeynick
23-07-2020, 08:36 PM
Stuart Kettlewell of Ross County was apparently raging at Hibs for late test results. This St Mirren aspect puts everything in to persepective and he maybe needs to think a bit about the impact on lives. I live in Carlisle and 4 pubs already having positive results after 1 week of opening but very scant detail obtained about track and trace . I am adopting very strict measures and dont even want anybody making me a coffee. I suspect that our season will be badly interupted by another outbreak

KDY Hibs
23-07-2020, 08:36 PM
Let’s hope they are all okay.

This 100%, a horrible virus.

Blaster
23-07-2020, 08:45 PM
Now back to testing twice a week again

calumhibee1
23-07-2020, 08:46 PM
Crazy. I presume everybody will be tested and anybody who comes back negative can carry on training/be selected for games. Anyone positive will be out for the start of the season?

Prof. Shaggy
23-07-2020, 08:52 PM
"Heartwarming news"
"Hope it's rampant"
"Delicious"

Guess where I read these...

KingPat4
23-07-2020, 08:55 PM
None of them are players, all backroom staff. Still terrible of course, I wish them well.

KingPat4
23-07-2020, 08:56 PM
"Heartwarming news"
"Hope it's rampant"
"Delicious"

Guess where I read these...

No?

I would not even wish that on them.

superfurryhibby
23-07-2020, 08:59 PM
None of them are players, all backroom staff. Still terrible of course, I wish them well.

The players haven’t been tested yet. I would imagine there will be positive results there too.

h18eeynick
23-07-2020, 08:59 PM
"Heartwarming news"
"Hope it's rampant"
"Delicious"

Guess where I read these...

That is actually worse than shocking ! Disgusting, vile people

Col2
23-07-2020, 09:02 PM
Daily record are blaming it all on Hibs. Apparently St Mirren are furious.

Vault Boy
23-07-2020, 09:03 PM
Let’s hope they are all okay.

Good post, likewise.

marinello59
23-07-2020, 09:03 PM
"Heartwarming news"
"Hope it's rampant"
"Delicious"

Guess where I read these...

Kickback is now up there with Follow Follow as one of the most disgusting fitba forums around. A real cesspit.

mim
23-07-2020, 09:03 PM
St Mirren played Hamilton last Saturday. We played Hamilton this week.
Slightly concerning.

calumhibee1
23-07-2020, 09:04 PM
"Heartwarming news"
"Hope it's rampant"
"Delicious"

Guess where I read these...

And to think they call us vermin.

Hopefully all those who test positive are ok.

greenlex
23-07-2020, 09:13 PM
😂😂😂

calumhibee1
23-07-2020, 09:16 PM
Kickback is now up there with Follow Follow as one of the most disgusting fitba forums around. A real cesspit.

Having had a look at Follow Follow on the back of your post I can confirm that Kickback has the ****miest posters in the world.. a hell of a lot worse than what's being said on Follow Follow right now. The worst it really gets over there just now (admittedly I didn't read it all) is jokes about how Celtic will probably be awarded the title on the back of it and the time St Mirren let Celtic take over their club shop.

KingPat4
23-07-2020, 09:18 PM
And to think they call us vermin.

Hopefully all those who test positive are ok.

They are beyond vermin.

The Count
23-07-2020, 09:21 PM
Sounds like we will have to get used to Covid postponed games this season.But lets hope that the season is completed as that would mean no major second wave which would be great for all of us.

HFC93
23-07-2020, 09:25 PM
Kettlewell must condemn.

BILLYHIBS
23-07-2020, 09:28 PM
It’s a Hearts plot

The last throw of the dice :greengrin

Andy74
23-07-2020, 09:29 PM
Sounds like we will have to get used to Covid postponed games this season.But lets hope that the season is completed as that would mean no major second wave which would be great for all of us.

This happened with the English restart too. The individuals isolate, testing continues and the rest of them get on with it.

Stokesy's on fire
23-07-2020, 09:43 PM
Stuart Kettlewell of Ross County was apparently raging at Hibs for late test results. This St Mirren aspect puts everything in to persepective and he maybe needs to think a bit about the impact on lives. I live in Carlisle and 4 pubs already having positive results after 1 week of opening but very scant detail obtained about track and trace . I am adopting very strict measures and dont even want anybody making me a coffee. I suspect that our season will be badly interupted by another outbreak

A bit off topic but stuart kettlewell is a total....

Pretty Boy
23-07-2020, 09:48 PM
I just had a wander over to Kickback to see what was being said.

Wow. Shameful, shameful stuff. I used to have a grudging respect for them as it was a pretty well run site for a while. I've no idea what has happened over the last 2 or 3 years but it's little better than the likes of Rangers Media now.

PatHead
23-07-2020, 09:51 PM
Worrying times for those who have contracted the virus and their families.

Hope they get well soon.

BoomtownHibees
23-07-2020, 09:52 PM
Hamilton players and staff all tested negative

CallumLaidlaw
23-07-2020, 09:52 PM
St Mirren played Hamilton last Saturday. We played Hamilton this week.
Slightly concerning.

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23-07-2020, 09:57 PM
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Really good news

CmoantheHibs
23-07-2020, 09:57 PM
Hope it hasn't spread any further than the 7 backroom staff and wish them all a safe and speedy recovery. It shows what a precarious situation we are still all in with this virus.

Since452
23-07-2020, 09:58 PM
A bit off topic but stuart kettlewell is a total....

Derek McInnes wannabe

marinello59
23-07-2020, 09:59 PM
Sounds like we will have to get used to Covid postponed games this season.But lets hope that the season is completed as that would mean no major second wave which would be great for all of us.

The rules for what happens with a truncated season need to be laid out now. St Mirren won’t be the only club facing this.

G B Young
23-07-2020, 10:04 PM
I'll be quite surprised if St Mirren's opening fixture goes ahead as scheduled.

Not necessarily related, but there will also be quite a big tracing operation required for the seven staff who tested positive.

jacomo
23-07-2020, 10:14 PM
There are reports of somenody running away from the St Mirren training ground yesterday, who is suspected of deliberately spreading the virus.

Authorites are looking to question an old coughing women with strawberry blonde hair and a haggared, flushed complextion, wearing a brownish/reddish plaid jacket.


Running?

calumhibee1
23-07-2020, 10:15 PM
Running?

*rolling.

04Sauzee
23-07-2020, 10:38 PM
I know it's the Daily Record and Keith Jackson but

Rangers are facing a top level SFA probe over fears the club broke coronavirus testing protocol.

Record Sport understands Hampden top brass suspect as many as nine of Steven Gerrard’s first team squad played in a bounce match against Dundee United without having been given the mandatory all clear by medics.

B.H.F.C
23-07-2020, 10:41 PM
I know it's the Daily Record and Keith Jackson but

Rangers are facing a top level SFA probe over fears the club broke coronavirus testing protocol.

Record Sport understands Hampden top brass suspect as many as nine of Steven Gerrard’s first team squad played in a bounce match against Dundee United without having been given the mandatory all clear by medics.

When did the rules ever apply to The Rangers eh.

Ronniekirk
23-07-2020, 10:54 PM
I'll be quite surprised if St Mirren's opening fixture goes ahead as scheduled.

Not necessarily related, but there will also be quite a big tracing operation required for the seven staff who tested positive.

Reports saying some who tested positive have been retested and are now negative which is the flaw in testing it’s not an exact science


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Brightside
23-07-2020, 11:09 PM
Ewan Murray putting a dig in as expected. What a horrible individual.

HUTCHYHIBBY
24-07-2020, 06:00 AM
Stuart Kettlewell of Ross County was apparently raging at Hibs for late test results. This St Mirren aspect puts everything in to persepective and he maybe needs to think a bit about the impact on lives. I live in Carlisle and 4 pubs already having positive results after 1 week of opening but very scant detail obtained about track and trace . I am adopting very strict measures and dont even want anybody making me a coffee. I suspect that our season will be badly interupted by another outbreak

I was down there on Saturday, which pubs are involved?

Waxy
24-07-2020, 06:23 AM
Ewan Murray putting a dig in as expected. What a horrible individual.

What did he say?

Hibs90
24-07-2020, 06:32 AM
Scottish football’s Joint Response Group has written to Rangers, Motherwell and Hibs asking for explanations re Covid-19 testing protocols. Suggestion some Rangers players faced Dundee Utd without test results.


Chria McLaughlin on Twitter

Caversham Green
24-07-2020, 06:56 AM
I just had a wander over to Kickback to see what was being said.

Wow. Shameful, shameful stuff. I used to have a grudging respect for them as it was a pretty well run site for a while. I've no idea what has happened over the last 2 or 3 years but it's little better than the likes of Rangers Media now.

:agree: Some truly disgusting comments over there. They're all delighted that seven people have contracted a potentially fatal disease purely because those people work for a football club they don't like. That's beneath contempt.

Hibernian Verse
24-07-2020, 07:05 AM
:agree: Some truly disgusting comments over there. They're all delighted that seven people have contracted a potentially fatal disease purely because those people work for a football club they don't like. That's beneath contempt.

Nothing is beneath kickback. It's a credit to this site that you just don't see anything like that on here. Hibs.net has thousands of members I assume, but we all self-moderate and anyone that says something outrageous is generally told to wind it in, but over there it's like they all jump on the back of one another's posts and it just spirals into more and more bitterness.

The only comparable sites to it are FollowFollow & GersForum. You'd think being the "establishment" clubs they would have a better grasp on humanity through their claim that we are uneducated spoon-burners but quite the opposite.

Since452
24-07-2020, 07:08 AM
:agree: Some truly disgusting comments over there. They're all delighted that seven people have contracted a potentially fatal disease purely because those people work for a football club they don't like. That's beneath contempt.

It's really sad actually. Why don't their admin do something about it and ban them? I'd like to think if people said that on here they'd be punted straight away and rightly so. Disgusting.

JimBHibees
24-07-2020, 07:29 AM
I know it's the Daily Record and Keith Jackson but

Rangers are facing a top level SFA probe over fears the club broke coronavirus testing protocol.

Record Sport understands Hampden top brass suspect as many as nine of Steven Gerrard’s first team squad played in a bounce match against Dundee United without having been given the mandatory all clear by medics.

If true that is pathetic but not a surprise

JimBHibees
24-07-2020, 07:32 AM
Scottish football’s Joint Response Group has written to Rangers, Motherwell and Hibs asking for explanations re Covid-19 testing protocols. Suggestion some Rangers players faced Dundee Utd without test results.


Chria McLaughlin on Twitter

Wonder what Hibs have got to answer to. Possibly the Ross County postponement?

Brightside
24-07-2020, 07:33 AM
What did he say?
https://twitter.com/mrewanmurray/status/1286396895053713411?s=20

Peevemor
24-07-2020, 07:37 AM
Wonder what Hibs have got to answer to. Possibly the Ross County postponement?

It'll definitely be that and rightly so.

If these groups are to serve any purpose at all, then they should be gathering as much information and feedback as possible, good or bad, so that this can be shared with all clubs to try to ensure that things go as smoothly (and risk free) as possible.

Brightside
24-07-2020, 07:38 AM
It'll definitely be that and rightly so.

If these groups are to serve any purpose at all, then they should be gathering as much information and feedback as possible, good or bad, so that this can be shared with all clubs to try to ensure that things go as smoothly (and risk free) as possible.

Agreed. The whole point of allowing the bounce games is about getting all these protocols right. Its spot on that we are finding issues. FFS the government couldnt get testing right for months!

Roxyhibee
24-07-2020, 07:39 AM
Really hope the main media get a hold of these disgusting comments from this appalling club. Actually saying they are delighted people have contracted a lung condition which can result in a painful and distressing death. A new low even for their standards.

Someone needs to get this to their benefactor and show him the type of culture he is constantly bailing out..

calumhibee1
24-07-2020, 07:41 AM
Really hope the main media get a hold of these disgusting comments from this appalling club. Actually saying they are delighted people have contracted a lung condition which can result in a painful and distressing death. A new low even for their standards.

Someone needs to get this to their benefactor and show him the type of culture he is constantly bailing out..

JA will be fully aware. Obviously isn’t bothered.

proud_and_green
24-07-2020, 07:46 AM
I know it's the Daily Record and Keith Jackson but

Rangers are facing a top level SFA probe over fears the club broke coronavirus testing protocol.

Record Sport understands Hampden top brass suspect as many as nine of Steven Gerrard’s first team squad played in a bounce match against Dundee United without having been given the mandatory all clear by medics.

That'll be a difficult one to explain if true and one which i would think the Scottish Government would take an interest in. As i understand it the permission to proceed with playing games is on the proviso that the clubs have appropriate processes in place for testing and keeping the virus away from all participants. If Rangers have failed to test players and played them in a game; that is a failure of the system upon which the permission is given. Hibs case is different because the testing was done, but the results weren't back in time, we then cancelled that game and have subsequently reviewed and changed the testing regime to allow for delays. That is the correct way to do things, when you see a problem with your business, you review it. then change it.

We need to make sure all our systems are working as a collective though, because if the Government decide that not enough is being done to ensure a safe football then they will take action - either to close it down again or not allow a move to games in front of crowds or some other restriction.

Since452
24-07-2020, 07:47 AM
I know it's the Daily Record and Keith Jackson but

Rangers are facing a top level SFA probe over fears the club broke coronavirus testing protocol.

Record Sport understands Hampden top brass suspect as many as nine of Steven Gerrard’s first team squad played in a bounce match against Dundee United without having been given the mandatory all clear by medics.

The only correct thing to do in all honesty is liquidate them

EI255
24-07-2020, 08:01 AM
"Heartwarming news"
"Hope it's rampant"
"Delicious"

Guess where I read these...So covid won't visit Gorgie?

Still bitter after 86.
Still bitter at getting relegated. You gotta laugh.

Super Saints own you.

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EI255
24-07-2020, 08:02 AM
The only correct thing to do in all honesty is liquidate themTake their Pink East Coast cousins with them.

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Dmas
24-07-2020, 08:03 AM
https://twitter.com/mrewanmurray/status/1286396895053713411?s=20

Couldn’t mark this guys neck with a blow torch, completely failing to see that this proves that games couldn’t and most definitely shouldn’t have went ahead whilst infection rate was higher as ewan, his mate Tom English and his beloved club have been crying about for months

JimBHibees
24-07-2020, 08:09 AM
It'll definitely be that and rightly so.

If these groups are to serve any purpose at all, then they should be gathering as much information and feedback as possible, good or bad, so that this can be shared with all clubs to try to ensure that things go as smoothly (and risk free) as possible.

Totally agree

nonshinyfinish
24-07-2020, 08:09 AM
Given the Gary McKay thread and comments on this one, can I politely suggest an edit to "Gorgie?"

:agree:

There are still a few folk on here who are fond of dropping in 'Gorgay', 'HOMOFC' etc. Embarrassing.

Peevemor
24-07-2020, 08:11 AM
:agree:

There are still a few folk on here who are fond of dropping in 'Gorgay', 'HOMOFC' etc. Embarrassing.

I used HoMoFC a few times in tribute to the socks that Vlad got them.

marinello59
24-07-2020, 08:18 AM
:agree:

There are still a few folk on here who are fond of dropping in 'Gorgay', 'HOMOFC' etc. Embarrassing.

Agreed.
There is no place for homophobic comments on here.

h18eeynick
24-07-2020, 08:27 AM
I was down there on Saturday, which pubs are involved?

William Rufus on Botchergate , The Turf, The Museum and Thin White Duke. Various dates and times quoted on News and Star website. I think 6 positive cases were mentioned that had visited.It was the previous weekend that was quoted , around 9th to 13th I think

007
24-07-2020, 08:32 AM
:agree: Some truly disgusting comments over there. They're all delighted that seven people have contracted a potentially fatal disease purely because those people work for a football club they don't like. That's beneath contempt.

Disgusting behaviour. Does that site actually have any mods? Regardless of that, you'd think there would be some kind of self policing going. And to think they see themselves superior to everyone else, showing their true colours now though.

Hopefully the St Mirren staff recover quickly.

semaj64
24-07-2020, 08:47 AM
Couldn’t mark this guys neck with a blow torch, completely failing to see that this proves that games couldn’t and most definitely shouldn’t have went ahead whilst infection rate was higher as ewan, his mate Tom English and his beloved club have been crying about for months

Agree and they fail to mention it is the Scottish Government that had not allowed games to go ahead. They also have the decision on whether to allow 1st August which is dependant on these protocols being followed.

Lee Marvin
24-07-2020, 08:51 AM
Hearts fans will get their final comeuppance when they hear that they will not even have a league to play in next season!

I am extremely skeptical as to whether the Championship will be financially viable enough to commence without a vaccine of strong therapeutic.

HUTCHYHIBBY
24-07-2020, 09:12 AM
William Rufus on Botchergate , The Turf, The Museum and Thin White Duke. Various dates and times quoted on News and Star website. I think 6 positive cases were mentioned that had visited.It was the previous weekend that was quoted , around 9th to 13th I think

Cheers! Was in Lloyds last Saturday, will watch with interest.

h18eeynick
24-07-2020, 10:38 AM
Cheers! Was in Lloyds last Saturday, will watch with interest.

Advice is to get a test done. There were 497 tests done in one day the other day when it was first announced and not sure how many since. Walk up tests without booking available at Brunton Park footie car park

HUTCHYHIBBY
24-07-2020, 10:58 AM
Advice is to get a test done. There were 497 tests done in one day the other day when it was first announced and not sure how many since. Walk up tests without booking available at Brunton Park footie car park

Just phoned Cumbria County Council Outbreak Control Team (I'm back in Edinburgh now) as I received a text from them this morning, when I explained I wasn't in Carlisle on the dates in question was told the text can be ignored, not sure that's a positive or negative thing.

Heisenberg
24-07-2020, 11:40 AM
Latest testing has only shown one positive at St Mirren.

Brummie_Hibs
24-07-2020, 12:01 PM
Latest testing has only shown one positive at St Mirren.
JKB will be gutted.

Golden Bear
24-07-2020, 12:10 PM
Latest testing has only shown one positive at St Mirren.

Excellent news ---------- but how is that possible? Is the testing system flawed?

Hibby Kay-Yay
24-07-2020, 12:16 PM
Excellent news ---------- but how is that possible? Is the testing system flawed?

6 false positive results

matty_f
24-07-2020, 12:18 PM
6 false positive results

I thought it would be more likely to be an issue with the tests.

Marco G
24-07-2020, 12:18 PM
Excellent news ---------- but how is that possible? Is the testing system flawed?Probably happened at the sampling end. Contamination of the other test samples by the one true positive. Should not occur but could if sloppy. Very unlikely to be at the test lab end. Not got any evidence for that but assume some investigation will be under way.

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G B Young
24-07-2020, 12:20 PM
Excellent news ---------- but how is that possible? Is the testing system flawed?

I don't understand this either. It's apparently referred to as a 'false positive' but it seems to me that's just another way of saying the testing system is unreliable. And if six out of seven tests were wrong it begs the question how many test results across the UK have been false? Further to that, how many members of the general public who have been tested and marked down as positive undergo a second test as soon afterwards as the St Mirren staff appear to have done?

nonshinyfinish
24-07-2020, 12:24 PM
I don't understand this either. It's apparently referred to as a 'false positive' but it seems to me that's just another way of saying the testing system is unreliable. And if six out of seven tests were wrong it begs the question how many test results across the UK have been false? Further to that, how many members of the general public who have been tested and marked down as positive undergo a second test as soon afterwards as the St Mirren staff appear to have done?

'False positive' is a standard term in medical testing, where it's important to distinguish between false positives (test says you have whatever disease, but actually you don't) and false negatives (test says you don't have whatever disease but actually you do).

See posts above for what's likely to have happened in this case.

Ronniekirk
24-07-2020, 12:29 PM
Excellent news ---------- but how is that possible? Is the testing system flawed?

Yes and more so it would seem if a private company involved


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G B Young
24-07-2020, 12:37 PM
'False positive' is a standard term in medical testing, where it's important to distinguish between false positives (test says you have whatever disease, but actually you don't) and false negatives (test says you don't have whatever disease but actually you do).

See posts above for what's likely to have happened in this case.

Cheers. Though I'm still not sure how that helps with regard to nationwide testing as opposed to the more regular testing done in football clubs. Is it standard procedure for members of the public to get tested twice to rule out a false positive or negative, or are there countless people who think they've tested positive/negative for Coronavirus but have in fact been given the wrong result?

nonshinyfinish
24-07-2020, 12:50 PM
Cheers. Though I'm still not sure how that helps with regard to nationwide testing as opposed to the more regular testing done in football clubs. Is it standard procedure for members of the public to get tested twice to rule out a false positive or negative, or are there countless people who think they've tested positive/negative for Coronavirus but have in fact been given the wrong result?

There will certainly be some people who've been given the wrong result – no test is 100% accurate.

I don't think it's generally standard to get a follow-up test (certainly it hasn't happened to any of the people I know who've been tested). That won't generally make any difference in terms of treatment – if a patient has Covid symptoms but tests negative, they'll be treated for the symptoms anyway, and if a patient tests positive but has no symptoms then there's nothing to treat. It will have an impact of the accuracy of the statistics of infected people, but assuming the rate of error is fairly steady then the stats would still be correct in relative change and trend, even if the absolute numbers are off.

I'm not aware of authoritative numbers on the accuracy rate of testing (either the 'pure' accuracy rate of a well-prepared sample or the 'effective' accuracy rate including everything that can go wrong before the sample makes it to the lab). However, I'd be astonished if six false positives together like this was down to random error rather than a one-off contamination or similar as suggested above. So I wouldn't use the six out of seven figure to draw conclusions about testing generally.

marinello59
24-07-2020, 12:56 PM
Cheers. Though I'm still not sure how that helps with regard to nationwide testing as opposed to the more regular testing done in football clubs. Is it standard procedure for members of the public to get tested twice to rule out a false positive or negative, or are there countless people who think they've tested positive/negative for Coronavirus but have in fact been given the wrong result?

It’s a private company that carried out the initial tests so this is not standard for most of us. Any positives are then re-tested by the NHS, just like the rest of us would be if we were suspected of having Covid.
Basically the second test is the first test when it comes to complying with isolation, tracing etc. I may just have caused more confusion. :greengrin

Caversham Green
24-07-2020, 01:04 PM
Meanwhile, over on Kickedoot this genius thinks the fact that they've had test results means they've been flouting the testing rules.


I absolutely agree with you there mate, however were St Midden not one of the clubs who bragged about giving the James Anderson money to charity which was designed for Covid testing, and now they've been found out to be flouting the testing rules? If so, then the book should absolutely be thrown at them, and I hope Nicole Sturgeon suspends the start of the new season as a result.

It seems pointless trying to reason with people like that.

marinello59
24-07-2020, 01:07 PM
Meanwhile, over on Kickedoot this genius thinks the fact that they've had test results means they've been flouting the testing rules.



It seems pointless trying to reason with people like that.

So they have flouted the testing rules by testing people as required? :greengrin

Caversham Green
24-07-2020, 01:43 PM
So they have flouted the testing rules by testing people as required? :greengrin

So it would seem.

It's like that time I was done for doing 30 mph in a 30 mph zone.

G B Young
24-07-2020, 02:02 PM
There will certainly be some people who've been given the wrong result – no test is 100% accurate.

I don't think it's generally standard to get a follow-up test (certainly it hasn't happened to any of the people I know who've been tested). That won't generally make any difference in terms of treatment – if a patient has Covid symptoms but tests negative, they'll be treated for the symptoms anyway, and if a patient tests positive but has no symptoms then there's nothing to treat. It will have an impact of the accuracy of the statistics of infected people, but assuming the rate of error is fairly steady then the stats would still be correct in relative change and trend, even if the absolute numbers are off.

I'm not aware of authoritative numbers on the accuracy rate of testing (either the 'pure' accuracy rate of a well-prepared sample or the 'effective' accuracy rate including everything that can go wrong before the sample makes it to the lab). However, I'd be astonished if six false positives together like this was down to random error rather than a one-off contamination or similar as suggested above. So I wouldn't use the six out of seven figure to draw conclusions about testing generally.

Thanks :-)

G B Young
24-07-2020, 02:06 PM
It’s a private company that carried out the initial tests so this is not standard for most of us. Any positives are then re-tested by the NHS, just like the rest of us would be if we were suspected of having Covid.
Basically the second test is the first test when it comes to complying with isolation, tracing etc. I may just have caused more confusion. :greengrin


Cheers. I get what you're saying.

Hibs90
24-07-2020, 02:13 PM
Meanwhile, over on Kickedoot this genius thinks the fact that they've had test results means they've been flouting the testing rules.



It seems pointless trying to reason with people like that.

Got to be a wind-up surely? Nicole Sturgeon? :greengrin

Henderson2Del
24-07-2020, 02:16 PM
Why are the government forcing Young men who generally work outdoors get tested twice a week yet they won’t make it mandatory for care staff to be tested? Nurses and drs don’t get tested like this.

Fish
24-07-2020, 02:44 PM
Why are the government forcing Young men who generally work outdoors get tested twice a week yet they won’t make it mandatory for care staff to be tested? Nurses and drs don’t get tested like this.

Football is a contact sport so the chances of transmission are quite high also essential workers are also wearing PPE to prevent transmission.

Henderson2Del
24-07-2020, 03:24 PM
Football is a contact sport so the chances of transmission are quite high also essential workers are also wearing PPE to prevent transmission.

Look at the testing results in England, the numbers involved in football getting positive results. I would guarantee drs and nurses have been at a greater risk yet they don’t get tested like this. Supermarket workers are in contact with items all day and don’t always wear ppe.

The Wireless
24-07-2020, 03:29 PM
There are reports of somenody running away from the St Mirren training ground yesterday, who is suspected of deliberately spreading the virus.

Authorites are looking to question an old coughing women with strawberry blonde hair and a haggared, flushed complextion, wearing a brownish/reddish plaid jacket.

Very Good 😀

Caversham Green
24-07-2020, 05:23 PM
Got to be a wind-up surely? Nicole Sturgeon? :greengrin

Nope. That poster has more than 30,000 posts over there and he's now repeated that he thinks "St Liedown" (really funny one that) flouted the rules by having their staff tested. He's a bona fide bonehead.