Scottish cup semi dates

[Monts]

Dependent on what League hearts are in according to the Scotsman

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/scottish-cup-update-dates-will-hinge-hearts-2913690

Surely that's a formality now though

[Peevemor]

Dependent on what League hearts are in according to the Scotsman

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/scottish-cup-update-dates-will-hinge-hearts-2913690

Surely that's a formality now thoughWhat a load of nonsense. Hearts are in the championship. End of!

[Andy74]

What a load of nonsense. Hearts are in the championship. End of!

Correct.

[Keith_M]

I think they should organise the semi-finals for the beginning of September.

Then we'll have four weeks of league games under our belts.

[JimBHibees]

Are Hearts players and coaches genuinely preparing for 1st August?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

It's almost cruel that the paper is giving them false hope.

[Spike Mandela]

..…..or of course they could be expelled from tournament and we will have a bye to the Final.

[Billy Whizz]

Are Hearts players and coaches genuinely preparing for 1st August?

Nope, they don’t start training until the 3rd August

[Ronniekirk]

Pishy breeks didn’t persuade the Authorities to issue two sets of fixtures fir the Big League so why is the Scotsman pandering to this nonsense


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[JimBHibees]

Nope, they don’t start training until the 3rd August

Ok cheers

[Squealing pig]

Neilson is legendary in hibs cup runs

[Sir David Gray]

Nope, they don’t start training until the 3rd August

They'll be in a bit of bother then if they win their case and kick off on 1st August!

[Billy Whizz]

They'll be in a bit of bother then if they win their case and kick off on 1st August!

That’s their problem😄

[JimBHibees]

That’s their problem😄

Hope we get them first up if that happens. :greengrin

[erin go bragh]

More chance of them getting thrown out the cup for breaking SFA rules than getting put back in the premier league.

[Not So Young]

More chance of them getting thrown out the cup for breaking SFA rules than getting put back in the premier league.


Thats what I thought the SFA would use as a punishment

[Power]

Nothing decided at the moment. Could be as early as November, could be as late as after round 3 or 4 of 2020/21 competition.

We’ll get our Semi Final though. Hopefully the start of multiple visits to Hampden this (and last) season ✅

[Sammy7nil]

They'll be in a bit of bother then if they win their case and kick off on 1st August!


That’s their problem😄

If Hearts win it won’t be their problem it will be a BIG SPFL problem.

[G B Young]

I still think they should just write these games off. Last season's done IMHO and by the time they finally get these fixtures organised they'll bear no relation to what they would have been. The SFA should just focus on making sure next season's Scottish Cup can be played.

[Since452]

I still think they should just write these games off. Last season's done IMHO and by the time they finally get these fixtures organised they'll bear no relation to what they would have been. The SFA should just focus on making sure next season's Scottish Cup can be played.

That's where I am with it.

[hibbysam]

I still think they should just write these games off. Last season's done IMHO and by the time they finally get these fixtures organised they'll bear no relation to what they would have been. The SFA should just focus on making sure next season's Scottish Cup can be played.

that’s all fine and well taking that viewpoint, but Scottish football is skint enough without scrapping this years competition for the sake of 3 games, and in the process chuck millions of pounds back to the tv companies. Not to mention the possibility of making money from ticket sales.

[Wilson]

You win one Scottish cup in a lifetime and fans want to just abandon the current competition when we're in the semi finals? Crazy talk!

[we are hibs]

You win one Scottish cup in a lifetime and fans want to just abandon the current competition when we're in the semi finals? Crazy talk!

I agree completely. Chances like this to get to a final dont come around often. Its a very winnable semi. Then anything can happen in a final.

[Since452]

You win one Scottish cup in a lifetime and fans want to just abandon the current competition when we're in the semi finals? Crazy talk!

Will be four teams with four vastly different squads and 7/8 months since the quarter finals. Makes a bit of a mockery out the competition for me. Just think we should concentrate on this season.

[Springbank]

I agree completely. Chances like this to get to a final dont come around often. Its a very winnable semi. Then anything can happen in a final.

100% this.

Win it!

[jacomo]

It's almost cruel that the paper is giving them false hope.


Budge has successfully deflected criticism for months, but it’s possible the masses might turn on her once they realise they’ve been duped.

The Scotsman / EEN might also feel the backlash, as they’ve basically been feeding propaganda to the Jambos.

[Wilson]

Will be four teams with four vastly different squads and 7/8 months since the quarter finals. Makes a bit of a mockery out the competition for me. Just think we should concentrate on this season.

In an ideal world that wouldn't be the case but we've had a global pandemic so it is what it is. It makes a mockery of competitions if you write them off like they don't matter.

Hibs earned the right to a national semi final so hibs should get to play one.

[jgl07]

Are Hearts players and coaches genuinely preparing for 1st August?

Nothing to prepare for. Hearts will be twiddling their thumbs for weeks if not months.

[Future17]

I still think they should just write these games off. Last season's done IMHO and by the time they finally get these fixtures organised they'll bear no relation to what they would have been. The SFA should just focus on making sure next season's Scottish Cup can be played.


That's where I am with it.

Have you worked out how much doing this could cost Hibs financially?

[Moulin Yarns]

Article in the national newspaper yesterday with Robbie saying that beating Hibs is more important than winning the league. Mental.

[Ronniekirk]

Article in the national newspaper yesterday with Robbie saying that beating Hibs is more important than winning the league. Mental.

Let’s face it they will probably get promotion easily so given Budge has hung them out to dry and fleeced them yet again she and he will need to deliver a Cup Win v us to placate the Masses
It will be their Reason for Being
We will need to be very wary of this tie as they will be well up for it They have nothing to loose


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[Springbank]

Betfred Cup dates have been announced here (starting 6 Oct)

https://spfl.co.uk/news/betfred-cup-dates-confirmed

My hunch is the Scottish Cup semis might need to be the week or 2 before this, so, late Sept

[Wilson]

Article in the national newspaper yesterday with Robbie saying that beating Hibs is more important than winning the league. Mental.

It clearly isn't but that is absolutely the mentality that should be adopted for a derby game. Save pragmatism for every other team in the league.

[Billy Whizz]

Betfred Cup dates have been announced here (starting 6 Oct)

https://spfl.co.uk/news/betfred-cup-dates-confirmed

My hunch is the Scottish Cup semis might need to be the week or 2 before this, so, late Sept
They can’t be, as the championship hasn’t even started

[04Sauzee]

Betfred Cup dates have been announced here (starting 6 Oct)

https://spfl.co.uk/news/betfred-cup-dates-confirmed

My hunch is the Scottish Cup semis might need to be the week or 2 before this, so, late Sept

Surely we aren't playing the semi final of the Scottish Cup before Hearts have played a competive league game?

[Pete]

Article in the national newspaper yesterday with Robbie saying that beating Hibs is more important than winning the league. Mental.

Lol and we all know why he's saying that.

It'll be too late.

[Springbank]

Surely we aren't playing the semi final of the Scottish Cup before Hearts have played a competive league game?

it's in the SFA's gift to set the dates, assuming hearts dont get banned from the cup as a punishment for their vindictive behaviour towards DUFC, Cove & Raith this past few months

[JimBHibees]

Article in the national newspaper yesterday with Robbie saying that beating Hibs is more important than winning the league. Mental.

Did he actually say that wow strange attitude imo.

[04Sauzee]

31st October and 1St Nov
New players eligible

[davhibby]

Final on 20th of December, hopefully some fans are allowed for the semi

[Billy Whizz]

31st October and 1St Nov
New players eligible


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53478993

[oneone73]

Where are you reading this

Hibs have tweeted it. It's on the SFA Website.

[04Sauzee]

Where are you reading this

Hibs have tweeted it and other media outlets are also reporting it

[Billy Whizz]

Hibs have tweeted it and other media outlets are also reporting it

Just saw on BBC website

[Diclonius]

A very spooky semi final.

[we are hibs]

We will be the Saturday probably.

[Sean1875]

New signings being eligible is a massive boost for us. Gogic will hopefully run riot, exactly the kind of game we brought him in for.

[Billy Whizz]

We will be the Saturday probably.

We’ll need to rearrange a home game v St Johnstone

[Scouse Hibee]

Article in the national newspaper yesterday with Robbie saying that beating Hibs is more important than winning the league. Mental.

I don’t think it’s mental at all, the right thing to say and what the fans want to hear.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

New signings being eligible is a massive boost for us. Gogic will hopefully run riot, exactly the kind of game we brought him in for.

absolutely

[hibsfan7]

If and when we beat robbie neilsons team for the 3rd time do we get to keep them

[Springbank]

If we get the Kamberi loan swap going it could open up a great pub quiz question:

Q- What do you call a Rangers player with a Scottish Cup winners medal?

A- Greg Docherty

[Leith's finest]

So if fans are allowed in will people who have not renewed their season tickets get to buy tickets in the 1st wave, or will they need to wait for genaral sale?
The word if is in there before anybody jumps in

[danhibees1875]

So if fans are allowed in will people who have not renewed their season tickets get to buy tickets in the 1st wave, or will they need to wait for genaral sale?
The word if is in there before anybody jumps in

I guess it will depend on how many tickets we're allowed to sell if fans are allowed in and how that plays against our ST and renewal numbers.

I'd imagine 19/20 ST holders would be in wave 1 regardless of renewing or not at a guess.

[Since452]

New signings being eligible is a massive boost for us. Gogic will hopefully run riot, exactly the kind of game we brought him in for.

Wait for Craig Gordon saving them from another derby humiliation

[Since452]

I'm just happy Robbie Neilson isn't cup tied

[Bristolhibby]

Will be four teams with four vastly different squads and 7/8 months since the quarter finals. Makes a bit of a mockery out the competition for me. Just think we should concentrate on this season.

It’s the Scottish Cup. I want to win it as often as we can. Don’t want our next win being in 2130!

J

[Sean1875]

It’s the Scottish Cup. I want to win it as often as we can. Don’t want our next win being in 2130!

J

It really is absolutely mental to think how long we went without winning it when you put it like that :faf:

[Dashing Bob S]

Obviously huge pitfalls as we’ll go into the game favourites and that rarely serves us well in derbies. It’s not great for Hearts given that they won’t have many championship games under their belt.

But as always they will be up for it as it’s a derby.

As a support and club we should be 100% into this, no room for bedwetters and bet hedgers. Those thieving tramps are finally getting their just deserts from the football gods - let’s compound their misery at Hampden by brushing them aside en route to another Scottish Cup Final.

[iwasthere1972]

Did he actually say that wow strange attitude imo.

I agree with you. Pretty strange thing to say. I would certainly take winning the league over a derby win.

[Since452]

Karma hasn't finished with Hearts yet. I wonder what the final score will be

[Steven79]

My brothers re-arranged wedding is on the 31st. :confused:

Our 8 year old has already said that if the game is on the Sunday then he's def going! :agree:

[Keith_M]

I don’t think it’s mental at all, the right thing to say and what the fans want to hear.


If you had to choose between Liverpool beating Everton in the FA Cup Semi Final or winning the Premier League, which would it be?

[Diclonius]

Karma hasn't finished with Hearts yet. I wonder what the final score will be

It won't be anything like what most on here will expect it to be. They will fight like dogs for a result as usual and we will have to be at the top of our game.

[Pretty Boy]

It won't be anything like what most on here will expect it to be. They will fight like dogs for a result as usual and we will have to be at the top of our game.

:agree:

Nothing makes me more nervous before a derby than when Hibs fans start boasting about how many we will put hump them by.

I can't speak for those older than me but in my lifetime it has almost never happened. More often than not the more we predict we will win by the more inexplicable the capitulation. They'll be up for it and more than likely fired up by the sense of injustice they seem to have. We'll have to be right on it to win the game. 1-0 would do me just fine.

[JimBHibees]

:agree:

Nothing makes me more nervous before a derby than when Hibs fans start boasting about how many we will put hump them by.

I can't speak for those older than me but in my lifetime it has almost never happened. More often than not the more we predict we will win by the more inexplicable the capitulation. They'll be up for it and more than likely fired up by the sense of injustice they seem to have. We'll have to be right on it to win the game. 1-0 would do me just fine.

I think the last time we played should remove completely any notion of superiority we might think we have.

[Saint Hibee]

I think the last time we played should remove completely any notion of superiority we might think we have.

I also hope Jack Ross significantly changes his attitude. I just don’t think he took the last derby seriously enough.

[allezsauzee]

Article in the national newspaper yesterday with Robbie saying that beating Hibs is more important than winning the league. Mental.

An odd approach but perfectly in line with Yammish mentality, they define themselves based upon their record in matches against Hibs. That is all they have. No reputation for playing with flair,, no great haul of trophies, no great European nights against the likes of Barcelona, Sporting Lisbon and Napoli. They have managed to have a superior record in a derby fixture by consistently playing the kind of football that has won derby matches in days gone by. This is why they obsess about us.

[Since452]

An odd approach but perfectly in line with Yammish mentality, they define themselves based upon their record in matches against Hibs. That is all they have. No reputation for playing with flair,, no great haul of trophies, no great European nights against the likes of Barcelona, Sporting Lisbon and Napoli. They have managed to have a superior record in a derby fixture by consistently playing the kind of football that has won derby matches in days gone by. This is why they obsess about us.

All while winning less trophies than Hibs over last half a century. Like you say, derbies define them.

[Dashing Bob S]

I can’t wait for this

[Kojock]

I guess it will depend on how many tickets we're allowed to sell if fans are allowed in and how that plays against our ST and renewal numbers.

I'd imagine 19/20 ST holders would be in wave 1 regardless of renewing or not at a guess.

You will get a ticket for the away end as Hear7s fans are going to boycott the game.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Any hint as to what the actual date and kick off time will be yet?

[Moulin Yarns]

Any hint as to what the actual date and kick off time will be yet?

Choice of 2 dates, we'll have to wait for sky to decide the kick off times.

[Diclonius]

Any hint as to what the actual date and kick off time will be yet?

Not sure it will matter an awful lot given no one will be there.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Not sure it will matter an awful lot given no one will be there.

Will still matter plenty that I get to see it, would have thought they could have decided date & time for each tie by now.

[Since90+2]

Not sure it will matter an awful lot given no one will be there.

Did Jason Leitch not say the other day the aim was still to have some fans back in grounds by 14th September?

[Sean1875]

Did Jason Leitch not say the other day the aim was still to have some fans back in grounds by 14th September?

They were planning on using Scotland v Israel as a test event beforehand for this but that's now not been allowed by the government so no chance of fans back on the 14th September now really.

[Moulin Yarns]

They were planning on using Scotland v Israel as a test event beforehand for this but that's now not been allowed by the government so no chance of fans back on the 14th September now really.

Is it not UEFA that said no fans?

[Onceinawhile]

Hope we get the Saturday, would hate for Boyle to leave on the last day of the window and not be able to play.

[Sean1875]

Is it not UEFA that said no fans?

In fairness that could be the case, dont know for certain - would UEFA have the power to do that though? Thought it would have been a decision made by countries governments as it concerns public health.

[hibbysam]

In fairness that could be the case, dont know for certain - would UEFA have the power to do that though? Thought it would have been a decision made by countries governments as it concerns public health.

UEFA can do as they please, just like they punish teams with BCD games. I’d imagine it is for two things, to ensure safety of players etc and also to ensure fairness across the board. If some countries can have fans and some can’t then it’s not exactly fair.

[Springbank]

I hope we are up for it, and if we are, then we have a right to be confident (not arrogant but confident)

It's worth keeping in the public eye, though, that Hearts expensively-assembled team of underachievers in 2020 could still start the game with more full internationalists on the pitch than us. Gordon, Smith, Berra, Souttar, Naismith, Boyce

It makes a mockery of Budge & Deans's howling that "it's no fair" to have relegated Hearts.
If you've got over half a team of internationalists, and you still lose 0-1 to St Mirren, when your fans know that's likely to be the last game before Lockdown, then you deserve to go down...but it doesn't mean they are poor wee underdogs. They are venal, living off Other People's Money & in that sense they are everything that is wrong with Scottish football, so we will need to be up for it. Personally I can't wait for this one:thumbsup:

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Anyone any idea what the likely KO times each day are likely to be, and any indication of which day is the more likely for our game?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I hope we are up for it, and if we are, then we have a right to be confident (not arrogant but confident)

It's worth keeping in the public eye, though, that Hearts expensively-assembled team of underachievers in 2020 could still start the game with more full internationalists on the pitch than us. Gordon, Smith, Berra, Souttar, Naismith, Boyce

It makes a mockery of Budge & Deans's howling that "it's no fair" to have relegated Hearts.
If you've got over half a team of internationalists, and you still lose 0-1 to St Mirren, when your fans know that's likely to be the last game before Lockdown, then you deserve to go down...but it doesn't mean they are poor wee underdogs. They are venal, living off Other People's Money & in that sense they are everything that is wrong with Scottish football, so we will need to be up for it. Personally I can't wait for this one:thumbsup:

**** me did the tug the chain and boomerang Berra back ? Must have missed that memo (I don’t follow all things jambo)

[Logie Green]

In today’s Edinburgh ‘Evening’ News in an article about Levein bumping his gums about hertz being told to stop training thus supposedly giving Hibs an advantage a sentence reads ‘The pair are set to meet in the Scottish Cup Final at the end of October or start of January’.

Obviously it should read ‘Semi Final’ (another EN mistake) but it’s the first I’ve read of the possibility of the SF being in January, unless the EN are wrong again!

[HH81]

It does seem pointless playing them unless fans are back in the ground?

[Wilson]

It does seem pointless playing them unless fans are back in the ground?

Why?

We're seeing plenty of games without fans and the results all count. Liverpool winning the league. Big European ties.

We're due a meaningful derby at a time when there will be few. The games still matter.

[Keith_M]

It does seem pointless playing them unless fans are back in the ground?


I agree.

Playing your local rivals in the semi final of the cup is a major event and one that's surely much better to attend in person than watching it on TV with no fans in the ground, and no atmosphere.

[Andy74]

I agree.

Playing your local rivals in the semi final of the cup is a major event and one that's surely much better to attend in person than watching it on TV with no fans in the ground, and no atmosphere.

I don’t think anyone could argue that it is much better to attend in person but that’s not an option.

[Kato]

In today’s Edinburgh ‘Evening’ News in an article about Levein bumping his gums about hertz being told to stop training thus supposedly giving Hibs an advantage a sentence reads ‘The pair are set to meet in the Scottish Cup Final at the end of October or start of January’.

Obviously it should read ‘Semi Final’ (another EN mistake) but it’s the first I’ve read of the possibility of the SF being in January, unless the EN are wrong again!

I'm going to stick up for EEN here and say they are perfectly capable of getting two things wrong in the same article as well as making up something fictional.

[Logie Green]

I'm going to stick up for EEN here and say they are perfectly capable of getting two things wrong in the same article as well as making up something fictional.

Given that it’s possible to find an error of some sort on almost every page on a daily basis I’m inclined to agree!

[Andy74]

I agree.

Playing your local rivals in the semi final of the cup is a major event and one that's surely much better to attend in person than watching it on TV with no fans in the ground, and no atmosphere.

I don’t think anyone could argue that it is much better to attend in person but that’s not an option.

[Keith_M]

I don’t think anyone could argue that it is much better to attend in person but that’s not an option.


Posting that twice doesn't make your pint any more valid, Andy....

[HH81]

Why?

We're seeing plenty of games without fans and the results all count. Liverpool winning the league. Big European ties.

We're due a meaningful derby at a time when there will be few. The games still matter.

It just feels like that was the plan all along. When season ended they could have just said forget it and voided the cup. I think thought 3 sell outs we need to play these as the money would be huge.

I just think if was going to play them behind closed doors might have been best having them just before season started.

[Green Manalishi]

:agree:

Nothing makes me more nervous before a derby than when Hibs fans start boasting about how many we will put hump them by.

I can't speak for those older than me but in my lifetime it has almost never happened. More often than not the more we predict we will win by the more inexplicable the capitulation. They'll be up for it and more than likely fired up by the sense of injustice they seem to have. We'll have to be right on it to win the game. 1-0 would do me just fine. At 51 im scarred by 17 games and 22 games in a row and still hate playing them to this day. My older brothers who grew up watching the Tornadoes said that losing a derby never used to enter their train of thought they were that confident

[The 90+2]

It does seem pointless playing them unless fans are back in the ground?

All about sponsor and tv money. They won’t play two Scottish cup finals in the same year so it must be played when it is.

[The Leith Dutch]

:agree:

Nothing makes me more nervous before a derby than when Hibs fans start boasting about how many we will put hump them by.

I can't speak for those older than me but in my lifetime it has almost never happened. More often than not the more we predict we will win by the more inexplicable the capitulation. They'll be up for it and more than likely fired up by the sense of injustice they seem to have. We'll have to be right on it to win the game. 1-0 would do me just fine.

100% this.

I've never found current form, current division or what the squads are like on paper to be anything to go on.
In fact I feel more confident when we're expected to lose.

Plus the games are usually tight.
I'd take 1-0 Hibs with a sclaffed deflection right now.

[Sir David Gray]

In fairness that could be the case, dont know for certain - would UEFA have the power to do that though? Thought it would have been a decision made by countries governments as it concerns public health.

The government hasn't commented on this issue yet since they announced at the last review that fans could possibly return from 14th September.

We may hear more tomorrow which is the next review date.