Major incident - Glasgow

[AugustaHibs]

Seems like something serious has happened in Glasgow city centre, hoping everything And everyone is okay.

[SteveHFC]

https://twitter.com/bbccatrionar/status/1276501553155837953?s=21

[Jakhog1]

Seems like something serious has happened in Glasgow city centre, hoping everything And everyone is okay.


Looks like hostages being released to me

https://mobile.twitter.com/GlasgowWEToday

[Barney McGrew]

Sounds like a mass stabbing of some sort. The police federation have confirmed at least one officer has received serious injuries.

[Willis1875]

Unconfirmed reports the the hotel was being used to house refugees

[Barney McGrew]

Reports on social media of at least three fatalities.

Police shot the knifeman.

[bigwheel]

Tragic news. Terrible

[danhibees1875]

Terrible.

Fingers crossed for all caught up in it.

[BroxburnHibee]

A*******s posting pictures of victims on Twitter.

What goes through these peoples heads?

[hibee]

A*******s posting pictures of victims on Twitter.

What goes through these peoples heads?

Disgusting, just seen a photo of a body lying on the stairs with blood everywhere, who thinks that’s ok to share publicly.

[Sir David Gray]

A*******s posting pictures of victims on Twitter.

What goes through these peoples heads?

Just seen that. WTF!!!

[calumhibee1]

What a disgrace people posting things like that on Twitter.

Well done to the police on their response. Although there has been fatalities it sounds like they got the situation under control as quick as they could.

[Jakhog1]

Why would someone take and post a photo of someone dying, disgusting.

[EAZY-ME]

I wonder what's causing all this chaos

[Sir David Gray]

Six people in hospital.

[G B Young]

Horrific scenes. In addition to the three people killed a police officer is among those stabbed.

Credit to the police for shooting the assailant before he could inflict any more mayhem.

It's alarming that this has occurred so soon after the Reading tragedy last weekend and it seems especially upsetting when it's so close to home.

I'm also just reading that the 'major incident' on Bournemouth beach yesterday was not, as I assumed, mass overcrowding, but three men being stabbed.

[Berwickhibby]

Horrific scenes. In addition to the three people killed a police officer is among those stabbed.

Credit to the police for shooting the assailant before he could inflict any more mayhem.

It's alarming that this has occurred so soon after the Reading tragedy last weekend and it seems especially upsetting when it's so close to home.

I'm also just reading that the 'major incident' on Bournemouth beach yesterday was not, as I assumed, mass overcrowding, but three men being stabbed.

The initial incident was called due to overcrowding the 3 stabbings happened on the pier in the evening. I am not deminishing the attack it terrible https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/bournemouth-beach-three-stabbed-a4481346.html

[EAZY-ME]

I expect we will see a lot more of these kind of attacks things have been boiling for a while

[Berwickhibby]

Reading that this hotel was used by migrants and asylum seekers, so reason of attack could be more likely to be a crime rather than a terrorist attack

[G B Young]

Reading that this hotel was used by migrants and asylum seekers, so reason of attack could be more likely to be a crime rather than a terrorist attack

I hesitate to say 'hopefully' bearing in mind the tragic consequences of the attack but terrorism-related incidents have so far been very rare in Scotland and it would be reassuring if it remained that way.

[G B Young]

The initial incident was called due to overcrowding the 3 stabbings happened on the pier in the evening. I am not deminishing the attack it terrible https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/bournemouth-beach-three-stabbed-a4481346.html

Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification.

[Pretty Boy]

Farage using this to spew his poisonous rhetoric on Twitter pretty much sums the man up. The people praising him for doing so is sad.

[Berwickhibby]

Farage using this to spew his poisonous rhetoric on Twitter pretty much sums the man up. The people praising him for doing so is sad.

It's not sad ...it's sickening

[Don Giovanni]

I don't think we have enough information yet to decide whether this consistutes terrorism. However, if the victims were targeted due to their Assylum Seeker status I would think that consistutes terrorism.

Dreadful events whatever the motive. Incredibly sad. Thoughts are with everyone affected.

[Keith_M]

Farage using this to spew his poisonous rhetoric on Twitter pretty much sums the man up. The people praising him for doing so is sad.


If he's trying to get some political capital out of this, then he's even more disgusting than I thought.


As an aside, where are people getting the three people dead figure from?

:dunno:

The Police said one dead (the knifeman), plus six injured.

[Santa Cruz]

I don't think we have enough information yet to decide whether this consistutes terrorism. However, if the victims were targeted due to their Assylum Seeker status I would think that consistutes terrorism.

Dreadful events whatever the motive. Incredibly sad. Thoughts are with everyone affected.

According to a witness quoted on Sky news two of the injured victims were male receptionists working at the hotel.

[lord bunberry]

I don't think we have enough information yet to decide whether this consistutes terrorism. However, if the victims were targeted due to their Assylum Seeker status I would think that consistutes terrorism.

Dreadful events whatever the motive. Incredibly sad. Thoughts are with everyone affected.
Could be far right terrorists.

[Mr Grieves]

If he's trying to get some political capital out of this, then he's even more disgusting than I thought.


As an aside, where are people getting the three people dead figure from?

:dunno:

The Police said one dead (the knifeman), plus six injured.

There were a few journalists tweeting and BBC/record reporting 3 dead, hopefully they've got it wrong

[Keith_M]

Could be far right terrorists.


It could be, but I have a feeling (with no inside knowledge whatsoever) that's it's likely to have been one of the residents, perhaps with mental health issues and the stress of lockdown.

The guy that committed the attack in Reading was reported to have had mental health issues and it wouldn't be a surprise if this was a similar situation.

[Keith_M]

There were a few journalists tweeting and BBC/record reporting 3 dead, hopefully they've got it wrong


Cheers :aok:


My wife just told me that they initially said the same (three dead) on the BBC.

[lord bunberry]

It could be, but I have a feeling (with no inside knowledge whatsoever) that's it's likely to have been one of the residents, perhaps with mental health issues and the stress of lockdown.

The guy that committed the attack in Reading was reported to have had mental health issues and it wouldn't be a surprise if this was a similar situation.
You could be right mate.

[G B Young]

If he's trying to get some political capital out of this, then he's even more disgusting than I thought.


As an aside, where are people getting the three people dead figure from?

:dunno:

The Police said one dead (the knifeman), plus six injured.

BBC reported 3 people killed including the man shot dead and six hospitalised.

[EAZY-ME]

A receptionist and a maintenance man are 2 of the victims

[G B Young]

BBC 'eye witness' claiming the attacker was 'a man of African origin'.

[Hibrandenburg]

I'm trying to keep an open mind, but being rammed in a hotel with many other asylum seekers during lockdown might send anyone over the edge. Hope those in hospital make a recovery.

[Sir David Gray]

Whilst delighted to hear that, for now, it's only the attacker that's dead, I'm struggling to understand how the media could be definitively reporting earlier on that at least 3 people had died.

[Sir David Gray]

BBC reported 3 people killed including the man shot dead and six hospitalised.

Where are you reading this?

[Mr Grieves]

Police saying it's not a terrorist attack

[Jim44]

No fatalities except for the perpetrator. 6 in hospital.

[hibsbollah]

Cheers :aok:


My wife just told me that they initially said the same (three dead) on the BBC.

They did, we were watching it.

These days Twitter rumours are moving so fast that actual journalists on the ground are forgetting to say what they see.

[Rocky]

They did, we were watching it.

These days Twitter rumours are moving so fast that actual journalists on the ground are forgetting to say what they see.

The Guardian live story makes the point that the information that three people had died had originally been confirmed by a police source.

[lapsedhibee]

Farage using this to spew his poisonous rhetoric on Twitter pretty much sums the man up. The people praising him for doing so is sad.

Good response from Sarwar:

Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Seriously Mr Farage. Don’t use a tragedy in our city to spread your fear and hatred. Glasgow has seen your kind before and always sent a united message- “get yerself tae f...!”

[Sylar]

BBC 'eye witness' claiming the attacker was 'a man of African origin'.

I read a few things earlier on suggesting the attacker was of Brazilian origin (they even had a name and a photo), but I can no longer find them so assume it was bull****.

Horrific set of events regardless - I feared the worst when I got the BBC Breaking News update on my phone when it first happened - they described it as an ongoing incident with three already dead. Glad they were wrong.

[Sir David Gray]

I read a few things earlier on suggesting the attacker was of Brazilian origin (they even had a name and a photo), but I can no longer find them so assume it was bull****.

Horrific set of events regardless - I feared the worst when I got the BBC Breaking News update on my phone when it first happened - they described it as an ongoing incident with three already dead. Glad they were wrong.

The BBC reported the Brazilian rumour on the 6 o'clock news show but said they had seen it on social media and that it had since been deleted so who knows.

[DaveF]

I read a few things earlier on suggesting the attacker was of Brazilian origin (they even had a name and a photo), but I can no longer find them so assume it was bull****.

Horrific set of events regardless - I feared the worst when I got the BBC Breaking News update on my phone when it first happened - they described it as an ongoing incident with three already dead. Glad they were wrong.

That photo must have been nonsense as my wife showed me it. The name underneath the photo was Pele's 🙄

[Jones28]

Sorry all, post deleted

[Bristolhibby]

I don't think we have enough information yet to decide whether this consistutes terrorism. However, if the victims were targeted due to their Assylum Seeker status I would think that consistutes terrorism.

Dreadful events whatever the motive. Incredibly sad. Thoughts are with everyone affected.

Terrorism or hate crime or just a violent criminal?

J

[blaikie]

Terrible event, glad nobody other than the perpetrator was killed.

On a side note, Is this the first time that Police in Scotland have had to use deadly force?

[JimBHibees]

The BBC reported the Brazilian rumour on the 6 o'clock news show but said they had seen it on social media and that it had since been deleted so who knows.

Kind of sums up the quality of that organisations news output.

[essexhibee]

Terrible event, glad nobody other than the perpetrator was killed.

On a side note, Is this the first time that Police in Scotland have had to use deadly force?

Believe it is yes.

[Scouse Hibee]

Terrible event, glad nobody other than the perpetrator was killed.

On a side note, Is this the first time that Police in Scotland have had to use deadly force?

Yes I believe it is, quite remarkable really given the modern threats the U.K. faces, thankfully Scotland is relatively peaceful in that regard.

[Jamesie]

Terrible event, glad nobody other than the perpetrator was killed.

On a side note, Is this the first time that Police in Scotland have had to use deadly force?

Second time the Police in Scotland hahaves had to use deadly force by way of discharge of a firearm - the first being Edward Griffiths in Glasgow in 1969 (Griffiths had been on a shooting spree across the city before being fatally shot himself).

[matty_f]

Whilst delighted to hear that, for now, it's only the attacker that's dead, I'm struggling to understand how the media could be definitively reporting earlier on that at least 3 people had died.

I think the rule of thumb for reporting is if you can get something verified by two independent sources then you go with it. (I did work experience at The Scotsman many years ago, and that's what the reporters told me).

[Kato]

I think the rule of thumb for reporting is if you can get something verified by two independent sources then you go with it. (I did work experience at The Scotsman many years ago, and that's what the reporters told me).Do two tweets count as that?

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[Killiehibbie]

Do two tweets count as that?

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One and something on facebook works for them as well.

[Sir David Gray]

The attacker was a 28 year old from Sudan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-53208080

[Keith_M]

There's been quite a lot more info come out in the last couple of days about the background to this.

Apparently the Asylum Seekers had been living in various locations but were all moved into the hotel when the Coronavirus outbreak happened.

A lot of them will already have been under stress but the confined conditions of the hotel, with a number of them confined to their rooms for weeks on end, will have only made that worse.

The guy had apparently already threatened others and he finally cracked after an argument about the noise from a neighbouring room.

There's a lot more disturbing information come out and the company awarded a lucrative contract (Mears) to house those Asylum Seekers is also coming under fire, as they apparently lied about risk assessments being carried out before these people were moved to the hotel.

[beensaidbefore]

There's been quite a lot more info come out in the last couple of days about the background to this.

Apparently the Asylum Seekers had been living in various locations but were all moved into the hotel when the Coronavirus outbreak happened.



A lot of them will already have been under stress but the confined conditions of the hotel, with a number of them confined to their rooms for weeks on end, will have only made that worse.

The guy had apparently already threatened others and he finally cracked after an argument about the noise from a neighbouring room.

There's a lot more disturbing information come out and the company awarded a lucrative contract (Mears) to house those Asylum Seekers is also coming under fire, as they apparently lied about risk assessments being carried out before these people were moved to the hotel.


Think I saw the same report. Really sad situation. Never heard of Mears, but I'd be interested to know if they have any connections to people who own the hotels. There's something that just doesn't add up right. They took away their daily allowance if £5 odds, what for and where did it go? Something stinks.

[Keith_M]

Think I saw the same report. Really sad situation. Never heard of Mears, but I'd be interested to know if they have any connections to people who own the hotels. There's something that just doesn't add up right. They took away their daily allowance if £5 odds, what for and where did it go? Something stinks.


Agreed.


I think there has to be an inquiry into this but I don't have much confidence in the Government in that regard.

[beensaidbefore]

Agreed.


I think there has to be an inquiry into this but I don't have much confidence in the Government in that regard.

Just found this.

https://corporatewatch.org/mears-group-scandal-hit-housing-profiteer-turns-asylum-landlord/

Clearly ****bags. Exactly why this sort of thing shouldn't be getting outsourced. Care of the elderly and vulnerable is another. Imagine those profits being reinvested.

[Moulin Yarns]

Think I saw the same report. Really sad situation. Never heard of Mears, but I'd be interested to know if they have any connections to people who own the hotels. There's something that just doesn't add up right. They took away their daily allowance if £5 odds, what for and where did it go? Something stinks.

The allowance was removed as the hotels are feeding them. The problem with this is that they are not used to a British diet and most cooked dishes they were familiar with.

[skankomcphee]

The allowance was removed as the hotels are feeding them. The problem with this is that they are not used to a British diet and most cooked dishes they were familiar with.

I’ve seen this written a lot in the last few days but it only goes so far for me. The meals weren’t overly adventurous - no cullen skink or haggis - and seemed to be fairly generic staples like spaghetti Bologna seems, macaroni cheese etc.

I think if I had sough to claim asylum in the UK - no doubt having escaped some form of torture or threat in my homeland, travelling thousands of miles to reach these shores - then I’d just be happy to have bed and full board gratis rather than be complaining about the menu!

[Callum_62]

I’ve seen this written a lot in the last few days but it only goes so far for me. The meals weren’t overly adventurous - no cullen skink or haggis - and seemed to be fairly generic staples like spaghetti Bologna seems, macaroni cheese etc.

I think if I had sough to claim asylum in the UK - no doubt having escaped some form of torture or threat in my homeland, travelling thousands of miles to reach these shores - then I’d just be happy to have bed and full board gratis rather than be complaining about the menu!Was the guy who stabbed folk complaining about his menu?

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[beensaidbefore]

The allowance was removed as the hotels are feeding them. The problem with this is that they are not used to a British diet and most cooked dishes they were familiar with.

Was that all they had to live on before? If that's the case then it's hardly surprising people coming to this country could be tempted to boost their income by other means.

[beensaidbefore]

I’ve seen this written a lot in the last few days but it only goes so far for me. The meals weren’t overly adventurous - no cullen skink or haggis - and seemed to be fairly generic staples like spaghetti Bologna seems, macaroni cheese etc.

I think if I had sough to claim asylum in the UK - no doubt having escaped some form of torture or threat in my homeland, travelling thousands of miles to reach these shores - then I’d just be happy to have bed and full board gratis rather than be complaining about the menu!

The guy interviewed said it was the fact that meal times had to be socially distanced. You had to wait over an hour at times and by the time you got served all the meat was gone.

I know what it feels like when you're late to a buffet and it's just crap stuff left. If that's all you had to look forward to, that could get you down quite easily. Could certainly lead to arguments about people being selfish/not sharing/disrespectful etc etc. Add multi faiths and ethnicities and I doubt it was quite as straightforward as your post implied.

Imagine not having any money to even go and get a paper or magazine to stave off the boredum, let alone Internet etc.