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Jim44
22-06-2020, 12:50 PM
Why am I seeing more ads on a banner at the foot of the page on Hibs.net? Have I inadvertently clicked on something.

cabbageandribs1875
22-06-2020, 12:53 PM
they are just temporary for a couple of hours


source : PM forum :greengrin

green day
22-06-2020, 12:57 PM
Think they are working on potential forum upgrade.

Lago
22-06-2020, 12:57 PM
Why am I seeing more ads on a banner at the foot of the page on Hibs.net? Have I inadvertently clicked on something.
Completely obscure everything. Pain the you know what😝

ancient hibee
22-06-2020, 12:59 PM
They’re a complete pain,all over the place.

offshorehibby
22-06-2020, 01:17 PM
I was getting them earlier they seem to have gone now.

BroxburnHibee
22-06-2020, 01:36 PM
Just working on some stuff folks. Site needs to have some revenue :greengrin

theonlywayisup
22-06-2020, 07:29 PM
:grr::grr:

They are a bit frustrating though!!

theonlywayisup
23-06-2020, 11:56 AM
Is it just me that's getting this grey banner at the bottom of the page, that I have to close to remove? Every single page :grr:.

I'm not even seeing any advert, just a grey banner. :dunno:

Smiggy 7-0
23-06-2020, 12:04 PM
Is it just me that's getting this grey banner at the bottom of the page, that I have to close to remove? Every single page :grr:.

I'm not even seeing any advert, just a grey banner. :dunno:

I get the grey banner and the advert every page, rather annoying, started yesterday and still getting it.

Can we please do something about it admins.:confused:

greenpaper55
23-06-2020, 12:05 PM
Grey google ads banner and an advert, have to click close every time i change a page !

Lago
23-06-2020, 12:15 PM
Grey google ads banner and an advert, have to click close every time i change a page !
Must be the " new normal" 😒

Callyballybe
23-06-2020, 01:22 PM
Is it just me that's getting this grey banner at the bottom of the page, that I have to close to remove? Every single page :grr:.

I'm not even seeing any advert, just a grey banner. :dunno:

Yep. Getting the exact same thing. Extremely frustrating that it's every page I click on!

BroxburnHibee
23-06-2020, 01:29 PM
In an ideal world we wouldn't have any adverts.

Until we have our own Benny Factor :greengrin unfortunately some things still need to be paid for.

Or did you think it all runs for free?

Alfiembra
23-06-2020, 01:30 PM
If you login it goes away but agree it’s very annoying if you haven’t logged in first.

Baker9
23-06-2020, 01:40 PM
In an ideal world we wouldn't have any adverts.

Until we have our own Benny Factor :greengrin unfortunately some things still need to be paid for.

Or did you think it all runs for free?

No I don't think it all runs for free. Could you be a bit more specific please as to what is going on? Is there a security risk in me using the site? It looks that way with the unexplained randomness. I am genuinely concerned about this.

Brightside
23-06-2020, 01:42 PM
No I don't think it all runs for free. Could you be a bit more specific please as to what is going on? Is there a security risk in me using the site? It looks that way with the unexplained randomness. I am genuinely concerned about this.

Id stay off the internet if you are genuinely concerned using Hibs.net.

BroxburnHibee
23-06-2020, 01:44 PM
No I don't think it all runs for free. Could you be a bit more specific please as to what is going on? Is there a security risk in me using the sight? It looks that way with the unexplained randomness. I am genuinely concerned about this.

There's no risk, I'm not sure why you think that.

We're currently trialling a new advert provider hence there has been some changes.

It does mean you may see a cookie permission pop-up that's it.

No need to feel worried at all.

Vault Boy
23-06-2020, 01:45 PM
No I don't think it all runs for free. Could you be a bit more specific please as to what is going on? Is there a security risk in me using the site? It looks that way with the unexplained randomness. I am genuinely concerned about this.

There's no security risk, they're just adverts that will be selected based on cookies, like any other site.

Baker9
23-06-2020, 01:46 PM
Id stay off the internet if you are genuinely concerned using Hibs.net.

That is unhelpful. Perhaps someone else can help.

Lago
23-06-2020, 01:47 PM
Z
If you login it goes away but agree it’s very annoying if you haven’t logged in first.
Not for me it doesn't :confused:

Smiggy 7-0
23-06-2020, 02:00 PM
If you login it goes away but agree it’s very annoying if you haven’t logged in first.

Not for me. It's there even after logging in

Baker9
23-06-2020, 02:01 PM
There's no security risk, they're just adverts that will be selected based on cookies, like any other site.

The way it has been behaving is not like any other site I have seen. The multiple clicks required just to use it and the grey banner are disconcerting.

Vault Boy
23-06-2020, 02:13 PM
The way it has been behaving is not like any other site I have seen. The multiple clicks required just to use it and the grey banner are disconcerting.

Again, there is no security risk and nothing to be concerned about. They're just adverts and as posted above, we're trying a new provider so there might be a couple of teething problems but that's all.

Pretty Boy
23-06-2020, 02:22 PM
It's a new ad provider so there will be some snags and we'll look to get as many ironed out as we can.

There have been a few requests regarding updating and upgrading the forum in recent weeks and that comes at both a cost and a few minor inconveniences.

The risk from seeing these ads is no greater than it was from the previous provider.

nonshinyfinish
23-06-2020, 02:38 PM
Z
Not for me it doesn't :confused:


Not for me. It's there even after logging in

The poster who said the ads disappeared after logging in is a private member.

Only £10 a year. :wink:

heretoday
23-06-2020, 04:04 PM
It's very annoying. Ruining my whole "leisure experience".

First lockdown - now this.

Barney McGrew
23-06-2020, 04:16 PM
The poster who said the ads disappeared after logging in is a private member.

Only £10 a year. :wink:

Yup.

Private Members get an ad free experience, access to the separate PM board, entry into PM Only competitions we run from time to time and a warm glow from the knowledge their £10 helps keep this nuthouse running.

You can join up here:

https://www.hibs.net/payments.php

Phil MaGlass
23-06-2020, 06:24 PM
****in ads doin ma heid in

theonlywayisup
23-06-2020, 09:48 PM
****in ads doin ma heid in

Makes me think Ann Budge has taken over Hibs.net IT.

CropleyWasGod
23-06-2020, 10:37 PM
First COVID, now FOMO.

Where are these ads?

Is It On....
23-06-2020, 10:41 PM
Thought this was about the band 😂. Too young to have seen them but "One Chord Wonders" is a classic..[sure Iggy Pope will have a view on that] 🙂

CropleyWasGod
23-06-2020, 10:42 PM
Thought this was about the band 😂. Too young to have seen them but "One Chord Wonders" is a classic..[sure Iggy Pope will have a view on that] 🙂

You're looking through Gary Gilmore's eyes.

Is It On....
23-06-2020, 10:44 PM
You're looking through Gary Gilmore's eyes.

No Time To Be 21

BILLYHIBS
24-06-2020, 07:07 AM
The only antidote to dem pesky ads is to become a PM

Only £10 per annum worth every penny and helps the site :agree:

Smiggy 7-0
25-06-2020, 07:13 PM
Thought we had got rid of all this Crap, but it's back again.

sleeping giant
26-06-2020, 04:09 PM
Wow. The ad banner that floats around the bottom of the screen is a nightmare.

The adverts are huge :greengrin
Some of those Wish ads could get you in trouble.

NiallGR
26-06-2020, 04:19 PM
The only antidote to dem pesky ads is to become a PM

Only £10 per annum worth every penny and helps the site :agree:

I am an avid reader but rarely post. Do you have to have a certain amount of posts to become a PM? I need rid of these adverts 🙈

04Sauzee
26-06-2020, 04:19 PM
Wasnt getting them a few days ago getting them now

Big_Franck
26-06-2020, 04:19 PM
What's happened to the site recently?? I now see huge adverts at the top, middle and bottom of every page of any thread I open. It's like using the Edinburgh News website!

BILLYHIBS
26-06-2020, 04:20 PM
I am an avid reader but rarely post. Do you have to have a certain amount of posts to become a PM? I need rid of these adverts ��

No just join the club

We even have our own forum ��

All welcome

https://www.hibs.net/payments.php

Since452
26-06-2020, 04:23 PM
A Sky Spots day pass for Burnley v Southampton on a Hibs forum lol

Keith_M
26-06-2020, 04:23 PM
What's happened to the site recently?? I now see huge adverts at the top, middle and bottom of every page of any thread I open. It's like using the Edinburgh News website!


I think they're currently updating the site.

NiallGR
26-06-2020, 04:24 PM
No just join the club

We even have our own forum 😃

All welcome

I tried but said I don’t have permissions?!? Will give it a bash again 👌

BILLYHIBS
26-06-2020, 04:24 PM
I tried but said I don’t have permissions?!? Will give it a bash again 👌

Sent you the link

Keyser Sauzee
26-06-2020, 04:30 PM
I tried but said I don’t have permissions?!? Will give it a bash again 👌

I’m getting the same message when clicking on the link.

Keith_M
26-06-2020, 04:31 PM
Did Billy mention the Initiation Ceremony for new Private Members?


:dunno:

hibee_girl
26-06-2020, 04:32 PM
I am an avid reader but rarely post. Do you have to have a certain amount of posts to become a PM? I need rid of these adverts 🙈

You do need a minimum post count of 200 but sometimes we make an exception.

Contact one of the admins and we’ll see what we can do.

BILLYHIBS
26-06-2020, 04:33 PM
Did Billy mention the Initiation Ceremony for new Private Members?


:dunno:

What song did you have to sing?

Keith_M
26-06-2020, 04:34 PM
What song did you have to sing?


It wasn't so much the song, Billy, but I'll never forget the look on the face of that poor Goose.

BILLYHIBS
26-06-2020, 04:35 PM
You do need a minimum post count of 200 but sometimes we make an exception.

Contact one of the admins and we’ll see what we can do.

👍

Brooster
26-06-2020, 04:39 PM
I'll not be back until these adverts GTF.

04Sauzee
26-06-2020, 04:40 PM
I'll not be back until these adverts GTF.

How will you know though 🤔

JohnM1875
26-06-2020, 04:54 PM
Don't have permission to join either. And would happily pay the £10 to get rid of the ads!

weecounty hibby
26-06-2020, 05:14 PM
Brilliant way to get £10 out of folk!! My PM subs had lapsed and I hadn't renewed but I couldn't take another second with those ****ing ads. To be honest it will be ruining the site for non PMs

KDY Hibs
26-06-2020, 05:16 PM
Don't have permission to join either. And would happily pay the £10 to get rid of the ads!

Ditto

04Sauzee
26-06-2020, 05:18 PM
No just join the club

We even have our own forum ��

All welcome

https://www.hibs.net/payments.php
I get the following when I follow the link


vBulletin Message
hibs.net Messageboard does not have any paid subscriptions available to which you can subscribe.

Vault Boy
26-06-2020, 05:21 PM
I get the following when I follow the link


vBulletin Message
hibs.net Messageboard does not have any paid subscriptions available to which you can subscribe.

You have to use the desktop view

04Sauzee
26-06-2020, 05:26 PM
You have to use the desktop view

Cheers

JohnM1875
26-06-2020, 05:27 PM
You have to use the desktop view

Worked a treat! Cheers.

MWHIBBIES
26-06-2020, 05:27 PM
I am fortunate enough to know how to get rid of adds all over the internet but, especially in these financially difficult times, its not really fair on those who don't.

Hopefully just a few growing pains and the site is back to normal soon.

Pretty Boy
26-06-2020, 05:35 PM
We are testing a few things at the moment with regards to new ads. There's work going on behind the scenes to make things as user friendly as possible.

Hopefully people have enough experience of using the site over the years to know anything we try is for the right reasons.

Waxy
26-06-2020, 05:37 PM
JD sports, the undisputed king of trainers.

BILLYHIBS
26-06-2020, 05:47 PM
JD sports, the undisputed king of trainers.

I keep getting dating sites ????

Vault Boy
26-06-2020, 05:49 PM
I keep getting dating sites ????

We don't control the adverts that are displayed - they're based on browsing history and cookies.

Tambo
26-06-2020, 05:55 PM
Only just appeared now when I come on here and i use my phone to browse, far to many ads for my liking.

Vinatis wine and champagne, I wonder if saughton got that famous bottle on ice from these people.

Since452
26-06-2020, 05:58 PM
We don't control the adverts that are displayed - they're based on browsing history and cookies.

Ah. That's why I keep getting boaby size reduction procedure ads coming up

Waxy
26-06-2020, 06:00 PM
I keep getting dating sites ????

I’ll be getting that shortly, along with viagra and hair restoration.

Glory Lurker
26-06-2020, 06:03 PM
Horoscopes for me 🤣. How the hell has that come out of my browsing history?? The programer who was behind that algorithm (or logarithm, whatever) needs sacked!

Mind, I'm tempted by the ad. "See whuat 2020 has in store for you". What wonders await me??

Hibee Mac
26-06-2020, 06:05 PM
They're all over the place it's actually ruined the site experience.

If this is a permanent change I'll not be hanging around

Pretty Boy
26-06-2020, 06:08 PM
I'm getting beer and gambling.....

04Sauzee
26-06-2020, 06:10 PM
They're all over the place it's actually ruined the site experience.

If this is a permanent change I'll not be hanging around

Splinter movement hibs.nut

WhileTheChief..
26-06-2020, 06:10 PM
Where are these ads?

I’m not seeing any, feels like I’m missing out.

Big_Franck
26-06-2020, 06:10 PM
I think the admins need to look at more family friendly ads. I keep getting ads for Spanish milf sites and Ukrainian brides.

Saturday Boy
26-06-2020, 06:10 PM
I'm getting beer and gambling.....

So jealous, I’m getting dresses or whatever you call them and ethical hacking training.

And pillow cases 🤔

BroxburnHibee
26-06-2020, 06:12 PM
I think the admins need to look at more family friendly ads. I keep getting ads for Spanish milf sites and Ukrainian brides.

We have no control over what you see.

Waxy
26-06-2020, 06:17 PM
Blarney woolen mills 25% off?
I pinky promise i’m no a secret Aberdeen fan.

Barney McGrew
26-06-2020, 06:17 PM
I tried but said I don’t have permissions?!? Will give it a bash again 👌


I’m getting the same message when clicking on the link.


Ditto

If you try again guys then it should be available for you :aok:

Keith_M
26-06-2020, 06:20 PM
I think the admins need to look at more family friendly ads. I keep getting ads for Spanish milf sites and Ukrainian brides.


Generally, these ads are based on the user's browsing history.


I'm getting ads for Pile Cream, Voltarol and Stannah Stairlifts

Keyser Sauzee
26-06-2020, 06:21 PM
If you try again guys then it should be available for you :aok:

Still coming up with the same message. I’ll wait till I’ve met the criteria for private members, the ads aren’t ideal but not the end of the world. Thanks tho.

CropleyWasGod
26-06-2020, 06:25 PM
I think the admins need to look at more family friendly ads. I keep getting ads for Spanish milf sites and Ukrainian brides.

Now I know who chored my phone.

RoYO!
26-06-2020, 06:26 PM
There's no risk, I'm not sure why you think that.

We're currently trialling a new advert provider hence there has been some changes.

It does mean you may see a cookie permission pop-up that's it.

No need to feel worried at all.

Where's the cookie gathering provider based? -dont say sesame st. And what are they doing with the info?

CropleyWasGod
26-06-2020, 06:27 PM
How will you know though 🤔

When the Deliveroo guy and the Nigerian Prince stop banging on his door.

Vault Boy
26-06-2020, 06:40 PM
Where's the cookie gathering provider based? -dont say sesame st. And what are they doing with the info?

You can get that information from the ads, there are blue info tabs.

Eyrie
26-06-2020, 06:41 PM
Generally, these ads are based on the user's browsing history.


I'm getting ads for Pile Cream, Voltarol and Stannah Stairlifts

I'm getting adverts for the Lady Haig Poppy Fund, Russian submarine tours, no-win no-fee lawyers and Rover cars.

I need to stop posting on oneleagueback.

Greencore
26-06-2020, 07:05 PM
If it gets. Net money and they donate it to hibernian, what's the issue?

BILLYHIBS
26-06-2020, 07:15 PM
If it gets. Net money and they donate it to hibernian, what's the issue?
:agree:

tamig
26-06-2020, 07:23 PM
No I don't think it all runs for free. Could you be a bit more specific please as to what is going on? Is there a security risk in me using the site? It looks that way with the unexplained randomness. I am genuinely concerned about this.

I’m genuinely concerned there may be a second wave of coronavirus.

That said, I don’t see any ads on this site at all - so perhaps an unfair comparison.

Waxy
26-06-2020, 07:23 PM
If it gets. Net money and they donate it to hibernian, what's the issue?Yeh it doesnt matter if individuals get outed as being droopy, baldy, sex starved gambling addicted alcoholics in dire need of a new boiler, as long as Hibs get a few pence for it.
:greengrin

Saturday Boy
26-06-2020, 07:35 PM
Yeh it doesnt matter if individuals get outed as being droopy, baldy, sex starved gambling addicted alcoholics in dire need of a new boiler, as long as Hibs get a few pence for it.
:greengrin

That could be me, but I’m still getting adverts for pillow cases 🤔

Jay
26-06-2020, 07:39 PM
Yeh it doesnt matter if individuals get outed as being droopy, baldy, sex starved gambling addicted alcoholics in dire need of a new boiler, as long as Hibs get a few pence for it.
:greengrin


Can you out yourself to yourself ? :greengrin

I have nothing to hide - I got make up and running pants :greengrin

Waxy
26-06-2020, 07:43 PM
That could be me, but I’m still getting adverts for pillow cases 🤔Hmmm.Pillow cases must be strangely important in your life.I think you need to get more sleep before bothering about the other stuff.

marinello59
26-06-2020, 07:44 PM
Can you out yourself to yourself ? :greengrin

I have nothing to hide - I got make up and running pants :greengrin

The usual incontinence pad and stairlift ads for me. Saved me searching.

Waxy
26-06-2020, 07:44 PM
Can you out yourself to yourself ? :greengrin

I have nothing to hide - I got make up and running pants :greengrinHow can you go wrong with that eh?

bawheid
26-06-2020, 08:10 PM
I’m seeing pillowcases too. The must have gift of 2020 apparently.

Any tips on how to get the Spanish milfs and Ukrainian brides?

Kavinho
26-06-2020, 09:15 PM
So many ads...

And yep, bizarrely just had the pillow case ad too. Can guarantee there's no cookies in my phone pointing to pillowcases being the gift of the year!


Is the algorithm reading the forum and then throwing up suggested ads based on the Thread?!!!

brianmc
26-06-2020, 09:46 PM
Site looks like brokeback now 😢

Hibee Mac
26-06-2020, 10:08 PM
What a mess

Cat Stanton
26-06-2020, 10:21 PM
What a mess

You're lucky you're allowed to say that. I said something similar (and equally polite) and had the message deleted by an admin...

Cat Stanton
26-06-2020, 10:22 PM
You're lucky you're allowed to say that. I said something similar (and equally polite) and had the message deleted by an admin...

Ps please buy my trainers/incontinence pads/Russian brides. You like? Very good value. Thanks very much.

Glory Lurker
26-06-2020, 10:46 PM
There's an ad at the top of my screen as I post this. It's apparently got the "Best Speed/Scan Quality Ratio". Hat off to it, whatever it is. The ad doesn't explain further.

Mystery. Intrigue. Hibs class.

Vault Boy
26-06-2020, 10:51 PM
You're lucky you're allowed to say that. I said something similar (and equally polite) and had the message deleted by an admin...

You can say what you want about the ads so long as it doesn't break the site rules.

Your comment was deleted because it was requesting methods to hide the ads, which we can't have up on a forum that relies upon ad revenue to subsist, for obvious reasons.

If you'd like to post again without that part it won't be deleted.

1875godsgift
26-06-2020, 10:53 PM
We don't control the adverts that are displayed - they're based on browsing history and cookies.


I just get adverts on how to silence your noisy neighbours, but I've already done that, so they're useless.

Can you send me some adverts about acid baths, pig farms or local large-scale building projects with deep foundations please?

* asking for a friend *

James310
26-06-2020, 11:03 PM
I don't mind the odd advert, it's an exchange for something which is free, but it's almost making the site unusable which surely defeats the purpose of having them in the first place.

Squealing pig
26-06-2020, 11:55 PM
Russian brides r tempting but cmon

Waxy
27-06-2020, 05:45 AM
We don't control the adverts that are displayed - they're based on browsing history and cookies.

Stay alert, control the adverts.

theonlywayisup
27-06-2020, 07:41 AM
I'm getting The Rangers football club season ticket page.

:dunno: mind you, it is a family laptop :hmmm:

CropleyWasGod
27-06-2020, 07:54 AM
I'm getting The Rangers football club season ticket page.

:dunno: mind you, it is a family laptop :hmmm:

Anti-virus treatment is the answer.


But you might have to bin the laptop as well.

gringojoe
27-06-2020, 08:21 AM
Spearfishing wetsuits buy now!

I'll pass on that thanks

Keith_M
27-06-2020, 08:22 AM
Anti-virus treatment is the answer.


But you might have to bin the laptop as well.


I'd bin the other members of the family.

Cat Stanton
27-06-2020, 08:22 AM
You can say what you want about the ads so long as it doesn't break the site rules.

Your comment was deleted because it was requesting methods to hide the ads, which we can't have up on a forum that relies upon ad revenue to subsist, for obvious reasons.

If you'd like to post again without that part it won't be deleted.

OK, tho in my defence it was a joke - I wasn't being serious.

Just to clarify: if you become a private member, do you definitely lose all adverts? Forever?

Keith_M
27-06-2020, 08:24 AM
Question for the Admins (or whoever's working on the site re-design).


Have you set up a Test/UAT environment for any changes you make before you 'go live' with them, or do you try out changes on the active site?

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 08:32 AM
Question for the Admins (or whoever's working on the site re-design).


Have you set up a Test/UAT environment for any changes you make before you 'go live' with them, or do you try out changes on the active site?

Jonty may have a better answer for you but yes we do have a test site which we are using however I suspect its easier to update the 'live' site as we get a lot more instant feedback :greengrin

Myself and another admin were looking around on the site earlier whilst not logged in on all the different options and we personally didn't find it as bad as some of the posters have made it out to be but maybe its different on different systems/phones.

weecounty hibby
27-06-2020, 08:43 AM
Jonty may have a better answer for you but yes we do have a test site which we are using however I suspect its easier to update the 'live' site as we get a lot more instant feedback :greengrin

Myself and another admin were looking around on the site earlier whilst not logged in on all the different options and we personally didn't find it as bad as some of the posters have made it out to be but maybe its different on different systems/phones.

I renewed my pm dues as it was so bad it was actually making the site unusable. On phone and laptop the ads were taking up 3/4 of the screen top and bottom with a grey banner on the bottom. The final straw was when the ads started showing up between posts. So it was either pm or stop using the forum. So pm it was or I might have had to start talking to my wife!

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 08:49 AM
There should only ever be an ad between the first and second post if you're not logged in as far as I know but certainly not between any other posts.

There's always been a banner ad top and bottom and on the first post for non PM's

The rolling banner ad at the bottom is new, we asked them to put the close button on it.

Perhaps if any of that is not what you guys are seeing then take a screenshot for us to see if it is really as bad as you say.

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 08:51 AM
I renewed my pm dues as it was so bad it was actually making the site unusable. On phone and laptop the ads were taking up 3/4 of the screen top and bottom with a grey banner on the bottom. The final straw was when the ads started showing up between posts. So it was either pm or stop using the forum. So pm it was or I might have had to start talking to my wife!

I should make it clear it was not our intention to annoy people into signing up to be PM's.

Appreciate the support though so thank you.

WhileTheChief..
27-06-2020, 08:53 AM
Is there any way you can Like / Dislike buttons to posts?

Would be good to be able to just Like something instead of quoting it and agreeing.

weecounty hibby
27-06-2020, 08:56 AM
I should make it clear it was not our intention to annoy people into signing up to be PM's.
🤔🤔🤔 😀
Appreciate the support though so thank you.

Meant to do it ages ago this just pushed me to do it

bawheid
27-06-2020, 09:01 AM
I should make it clear it was not our intention to annoy people into signing up to be PM's.

Appreciate the support though so thank you.

That’s definitely what will happen. I’ve been meaning to reactivate my PM subscription for ages. This will make me do it for sure.

The site is unusable in its current format. It reminds me of the Evening News website. Are times that hard for Hibs.net? If that’s the case then put it out there and folk will help.

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 09:08 AM
That’s definitely what will happen. I’ve been meaning to reactivate my PM subscription for ages. This will make me do it for sure.

The site is unusable in its current format. It reminds me of the Evening News website. Are times that hard for Hibs.net? If that’s the case then put it out there and folk will help.

Its weird you compare it to the EN site. I know exactly what you mean by that but the admin team apart from the odd occasion are not seeing anything like that even when we log out ourselves :confused:

Times are not particularly hard. The site funds itself comfortably enough to function and any extra is donated to Hibs in some form.

Improvements to the site need to be funded though so looking at extra income is always worth a try.

Appreciate all feedback though.

danhibees1875
27-06-2020, 09:13 AM
I logged out to see what it looks like for guests and can't see many intrusive adverts myself. I'm using an android phone and on the hibs.net lite system.

There's a small advert (1/10th of the screen at most) that stays visible throughout the thread. Otherwise the other adverts are static, a couple at the top (3, should reduce to 2 if you log in and aren't a PM) and one at the bottom, that you only see when you're looking at either end of each page.

Edit: I see I've ended up being the top post of page 5 and so will have my post surrounded by adverts. The irony isn't lost on me here. :greengrin

bawheid
27-06-2020, 09:14 AM
Its weird you compare it to the EN site. I know exactly what you mean by that but the admin team apart from the odd occasion are not seeing anything like that even when we log out ourselves :confused:

Times are not particularly hard. The site funds itself comfortably enough to function and any extra is donated to Hibs in some form.

Improvements to the site need to be funded though so looking at extra income is always worth a try.

Appreciate all feedback though.

I’m using the site mainly on the Hibs.net lite setting on iPhone 7plus if that helps. Maybe it looks better on desktop or through tapatalk?

Keith_M
27-06-2020, 09:16 AM
Jonty may have a better answer for you but yes we do have a test site which we are using however I suspect its easier to update the 'live' site as we get a lot more instant feedback :greengrin

Myself and another admin were looking around on the site earlier whilst not logged in on all the different options and we personally didn't find it as bad as some of the posters have made it out to be but maybe its different on different systems/phones.


Cheers.

Yeah, I can see the feedback is quite, ahem, 'informative' :wink:


FWIW, I've been trying it out on a few environments and haven't seen as many major issues, though maybe I've just been lucky.

bawheid
27-06-2020, 09:21 AM
I logged out to see what it looks like for guests and can't see many intrusive adverts myself. I'm using an android phone and on the hibs.net lite system.

There's a small advert (1/10th of the screen at most) that stays visible throughout the thread. Otherwise the other adverts are static, a couple at the top (3, should reduce to 2 if you log in and aren't a PM) and one at the bottom, that you only see when you're looking at either end of each page.

I have the small banner ad at the bottom that you can click on to remove. It reappears with every new page though so constantly clicking to remove it will get annoying pretty quickly. There are also large intrusive adverts at the top and bottom of each page, and scattered in between posts. Because the colour and style of the ads are so different to the Hibs.net design, it really affects the flow of a thread and IMO makes it pretty difficult to read.

It looks cheap and tacky now. Reminds me of kickback, which isn’t good!

As I said, I’ll definitely renew my PM now. It’s been a beamer it’s taken me this long since it lapsed to be honest. I do think that the new ad layout will put less regular users off. You might end up with more PMs but fewer overall users. Guess it depends what the site wants to be.

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 09:21 AM
I’m using the site mainly on the Hibs.net lite setting on iPhone 7plus if that helps. Maybe it looks better on desktop or through tapatalk?

I personally use Lite and as an admin I am always logged in so wouldn't see ads but like I say we logged out earlier to try it out again and are not seeing anything too intrusive. It is maybe a bit different to before but not anything like the completely unusable EN site.

I've never used tapatalk though so can't comment on that.

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 09:24 AM
I have the small banner ad at the bottom that you can click on to remove. It reappears with every new page though so constantly clicking to remove it will get annoying pretty quickly. There are also large intrusive adverts at the top and bottom of each page, and scattered in between posts. Because the colour and style of the ads are so different to the Hibs.net design, it really affects the flow of a thread and IMO makes it pretty difficult to read.

It looks cheap and tacky now. Reminds me of kickback, which isn’t good!

As I said, I’ll definitely renew my PM now. It’s been a beamer it’s taken me this long since it lapsed to be honest. I do think that the new ad layout will put less regular users off. You might end up with more PMs but fewer overall users. Guess it depends what the site wants to be.

Re. the highlighted part. The only time there is an advert in between posts is between the first and second post. Are you seeing different?

bawheid
27-06-2020, 09:32 AM
Re. the highlighted part. The only time there is an advert in between posts is between the first and second post. Are you seeing different?

No, you’re right enough. So you have a large ad at the top, the first post and then another ad. Then the rest of the page, followed by an ad at the bottom and then the removable banner ad at the base of the screen. That’s what I’m seeing.

I think the main problem is the style of the website has been ruined (IMO) due to the ads being so different in colour and design. I guess if paying members don’t see them then their experience will be fine. But I reckon it’ll put off casual users and potentially new users.

Anyway, just my feedback. Perhaps most folks will cope fine, but for the moment I’m off to buy a Spearfishing Wetsuit. It’s either that or the tenner subscription fee!

Keith_M
27-06-2020, 09:33 AM
I’m using the site mainly on the Hibs.net lite setting on iPhone 7plus if that helps. Maybe it looks better on desktop or through tapatalk?


IMHO, the mobile experience is best (for anybody not logged in as a PM).

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 09:35 AM
No, you’re right enough. So you have a large ad at the top, the first post and then another ad. Then the rest of the page, followed by an ad at the bottom and then the removable banner ad at the base of the screen. That’s what I’m seeing.

I think the main problem is the style of the website has been ruined (IMO) due to the ads being so different in colour and design. I guess if paying members don’t see them then their experience will be fine. But I reckon it’ll put off casual users and potentially new users.

Anyway, just my feedback. Perhaps most folks will cope fine, but for the moment I’m off to buy a Spearfishing Wetsuit. It’s either that or the tenner subscription fee!

Thanks for that and again thanks for the support. We are taking the feedback seriously so it is welcomed. Cheers

Hibee Mac
27-06-2020, 09:51 AM
Genuine query, is the site struggling with funding or something? Why have the admins felt the need to plaster the site with adverts?

Might be an ignorant opinion as I've never run a site before but surely when it comes to operational cost it's just paying for a server and domain and you're done?

Again, these are genuine questions, not trying to stick the knife in or anything.

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 09:57 AM
Genuine query, is the site struggling with funding or something? Why have the admins felt the need to plaster the site with adverts?

Might be an ignorant opinion as I've never run a site before but surely when it comes to operational cost it's just paying for a server and domain and you're done?

Again, these are genuine questions, not trying to stick the knife in or anything.

I answered the funding query earlier so feel free to scroll back :greengrin

As for 'plaster the site with adverts'?

As far as I am aware there is only one new advert which is the scrolling bar at the bottom which we insisted on a close button for. All other adverts were already there so comments like yours whilst welcomed are puzzling.

We genuinely appreciate the feedback so if anyone wants to post some examples of EN comparisons or 'plastering' we would love to see them.

Hibee Mac
27-06-2020, 10:02 AM
I answered the funding query earlier so feel free to scroll back :greengrin

As for 'plaster the site with adverts'?

As far as I am aware there is only one new advert which is the scrolling bar at the bottom which we insisted on a close button for. All other adverts were already there so comments like yours whilst welcomed are puzzling.

We genuinely appreciate the feedback so if anyone wants to post some examples of EN comparisons or 'plastering' we would love to see them.

Hmm that's really odd, maybe I was very lucky before as I've never seen an ad on this site in my entire time using it...

I'd love to scroll back and see your previous response on funding mate but I can barely see a thing on this forum now other than spearfishing wetsuits 😂

Barney McGrew
27-06-2020, 10:31 AM
OK, tho in my defence it was a joke - I wasn't being serious.

Just to clarify: if you become a private member, do you definitely lose all adverts? Forever?

Yes.

CropleyWasGod
27-06-2020, 10:40 AM
Hmm that's really odd, maybe I was very lucky before as I've never seen an ad on this site in my entire time using it...

I'd love to scroll back and see your previous response on funding mate but I can barely see a thing on this forum now other than spearfishing wetsuits 😂

Wetsuits and pillow cases give an intriguing insight into the habits of Hibs fans.

There's tomorrow's Sun headline right there.

1 8 7 5
27-06-2020, 10:46 AM
I pay 2p per day and there are no adverts and the site runs great. Over time a good chunk of that goes to Hibernian too.

Some of you should try it :agree:

Waxy
27-06-2020, 10:46 AM
Now i’m getting adverts for direct cremation wtf.
Whats wrong with me?
Does my phone know something i dont?
Are a squad going to come round mine with an incineration gun and small metal bucket 10 mins after i croak it?

Brooster
27-06-2020, 10:50 AM
Thought I would pop back on to see if the adverts had gone. I've went from having no adverts to having a large advert at the top, a large one after the 1st post and a large one at the bottom. Spoiled the user experience for me and I wont be cornered in to paying a tenner to have them removed.

hibee_girl
27-06-2020, 10:53 AM
Thought I would pop back on to see if the adverts had gone. I've went from having no adverts to having a large advert at the top, a large one after the 1st post and a large one at the bottom. Spoiled the user experience for me and I wont be cornered in to paying a tenner to have them removed.

It’s already been explained on this thread that it was never our intention to use the ads to get more PM’s.

It’s a work in progress behind the scenes and we are listening to all feedback.

Barney McGrew
27-06-2020, 10:57 AM
Thought I would pop back on to see if the adverts had gone. I've went from having no adverts to having a large advert at the top, a large one after the 1st post and a large one at the bottom. Spoiled the user experience for me and I wont be cornered in to paying a tenner to have them removed.

Nobody is cornering anyone to do anything. It’s entirely your choice.

bawheid
27-06-2020, 11:03 AM
Wetsuits and pillow cases give an intriguing insight into the habits of Hibs fans.

There's tomorrow's Sun headline right there.

The perfect combo for bedwetters. Makes sense.

bawheid
27-06-2020, 11:07 AM
But being serious for a second, it can’t be said that this improves the look of the site.

matty_f
27-06-2020, 11:19 AM
But being serious for a second, it can’t be said that this improves the look of the site.

Thanks for the screenshot - that's a big help and I agree, it's not the look we're going for.

Pete70
27-06-2020, 11:27 AM
I've always had the main ad at the top of a page and a smaller square ad embedded in the first & last post on each page. They've never bothered me as I understand the need for revenue and I pay very little attention to them.

The one that does annoy me though, is the new pop up ad that appears at the bottom the screen every time a page loads.

sleeping giant
27-06-2020, 12:14 PM
Do the adverts bring in revenue from just being on the site or is it if they are clicked on?

Vault Boy
27-06-2020, 12:16 PM
Do the adverts bring in revenue from just being on the site

That's right

jacomo
27-06-2020, 12:26 PM
Thought I would pop back on to see if the adverts had gone. I've went from having no adverts to having a large advert at the top, a large one after the 1st post and a large one at the bottom. Spoiled the user experience for me and I wont be cornered in to paying a tenner to have them removed.


Yeah, ignore those Hibs.net scammers! You’ve got their number.

The Modfather
27-06-2020, 12:45 PM
I pay 2p per day and there are no adverts and the site runs great. Over time a good chunk of that goes to Hibernian too.

Some of you should try it :agree:

You get a private membership for £7.30? They’ve been charging me £10 for their Ponzi scheme for years!...

Eyrie
27-06-2020, 01:01 PM
You get a private membership for £7.30? They’ve been charging me £10 for their Ponzi scheme for years!...

I'm always surprised that it's never gone up. Excellent value for minimal cost.

AL-Qaholik
27-06-2020, 01:14 PM
I'm always surprised that it's never gone up. Excellent value for minimal cost.

Utterly intrusive and completely spoiling the “flow” of the site.
Will be avoiding .net in future if this is what it’s going to look like.
Can’t imagine I’m the only one...

heretoday
27-06-2020, 01:19 PM
Do the adverts bring in revenue from just being on the site or is it if they are clicked on?

How much revenue? I want to know my suffering is bringing in a decent whack.

HNA4
27-06-2020, 02:12 PM
Just to clarify - posts that mention/ask for/detail methods of removing adverts will be deleted.

You're all welcome to your own opinions about the new ad layouts and to discuss these freely, but as a site that relies on ad revenue and isn't run for profit, we can't platform mentions of these things.

Comments that are critical and fall within the site rules won't be touched, the feedback is useful as this is an ongoing process.

sleeping giant
27-06-2020, 03:54 PM
Just to clarify - posts that mention/ask for/detail methods of removing adverts will be deleted.

You're all welcome to your own opinions about the new ad layouts and to discuss these freely, but as a site that relies on ad revenue and isn't run for profit, we can't platform mentions of these things.

Comments that are critical and fall within the site rules won't be touched, the feedback is useful as this is an ongoing process.


Apologies .

Waxy
27-06-2020, 08:23 PM
Drink Carlsberg-if Carlsberg did relegations.

Big_Franck
27-06-2020, 09:13 PM
I answered the funding query earlier so feel free to scroll back :greengrin

As for 'plaster the site with adverts'?

As far as I am aware there is only one new advert which is the scrolling bar at the bottom which we insisted on a close button for. All other adverts were already there so comments like yours whilst welcomed are puzzling.

We genuinely appreciate the feedback so if anyone wants to post some examples of EN comparisons or 'plastering' we would love to see them.

That's not been the case for me. I view the forum using google chrome on an android and I've never seen adverts on the site until the last couple of days. There are now huge, multiple multi-coloured adverts on every page. It's significantly reduced the user experience and it now resembles websites like the evening news or the daily record.

Is the big advert that sits right between the first and second post on every page absolutely necessary? It's the most intrusive one IMO and quite irritating.

WeAreHibs
27-06-2020, 09:23 PM
That's not been the case for me. I view the forum using google chrome on an android and I've never seen adverts on the site until the last couple of days. There are now huge, multiple multi-coloured adverts on every page. It's significantly reduced the user experience and it now resembles websites like the evening news or the daily record.

Is the big advert that sits right between the first and second post on every page absolutely necessary? It's the most intrusive one IMO and quite irritating.

Same! It's brutal!

Hibee Mac
27-06-2020, 09:46 PM
That's not been the case for me. I view the forum using google chrome on an android and I've never seen adverts on the site until the last couple of days. There are now huge, multiple multi-coloured adverts on every page. It's significantly reduced the user experience and it now resembles websites like the evening news or the daily record.

Is the big advert that sits right between the first and second post on every page absolutely necessary? It's the most intrusive one IMO and quite irritating.

Same here, sounds like I'm not the only one then. Don't think I've ever seen an advert on this site in my entire time using it until now.

coldingham hibs
27-06-2020, 10:05 PM
Adverts doing my nut in, Will defo reduce my viewing time.

DarlingtonHibee
27-06-2020, 10:08 PM
Adverts doing my nut in, Will defo reduce my viewing time.

Snap.

Paul1642
27-06-2020, 10:19 PM
Adverts doing my nut in, Will defo reduce my viewing time.

Agree with this. I know the site needs to bring in money but this is un-usable at the moment and I feel like I will reduce my usage a lot if it remains as is. I would rather a small contribution for an advert free option.

04Sauzee
27-06-2020, 10:21 PM
Agree with this. I know the site needs to bring in money but this is un-usable at the moment and I feel like I will reduce my usage a lot if it remains as is. I would rather a small contribution for an advert free option.
I think you can pay a tenner for a pm option which is add free

granty6_2
27-06-2020, 10:29 PM
Got to agree with the majority of posts. The adverts are without doubt to the detriment of the site, and some of the responses from admins are pretty poor.

Would be very disappointed if Hibs.net continues as it has recently, going in the same direction as our city rivals....

Bobby's Cinema
27-06-2020, 10:31 PM
The ads previous although aware of them were spot on in terms of not overstepping the mark.

Just had a look on the bounce for the first time in years and it is these new adds x 3. seriously hope that’s not where we are headed.

BroxburnHibee
27-06-2020, 10:42 PM
Got to agree with the majority of posts. The adverts are without doubt to the detriment of the site, and some of the responses from admins are pretty poor.

Would be very disappointed if Hibs.net continues as it has recently, going in the same direction as our city rivals....

What exactly has been a poor response?

We've welcomed the feedback and are currently working on a solution.

But thanks for your constructive criticism

bawheid
27-06-2020, 11:00 PM
There’s been nothing wrong with the admin response to this thread. Feedback has been given and graciously received. I realise most Internet forums and many media websites have these ridiculous ads. It was a good thing that Hibs.net didn’t.

I’ll be renewing my PM subbie as soon as I’m back at my desktop on Monday. Realise not everyone will want to do that so hopefully the site testing continues until a palatable compromise is found.

mca
27-06-2020, 11:16 PM
Log in.. click Delete advert, click on forum click Delete advert, respond to post click Delete advert.. what's going on :boo hoo:

HibeeSince85
27-06-2020, 11:17 PM
Does anyone have the link to the PM membership payment page. Can’t seem to find it on the mobile version and really don’t want to change it to desktop view if I don’t have to. I’ve been meaning to re-subscribe over the past seven years, the ads have pushed me to it 😂

Vault Boy
27-06-2020, 11:31 PM
Does anyone have the link to the PM membership payment page. Can’t seem to find it on the mobile version and really don’t want to change it to desktop view if I don’t have to. I’ve been meaning to re-subscribe over the past seven years, the ads have pushed me to it 😂

You'll need to switch to desktop to sign up, but you're able to switch back whenever you want to.

hibee_girl
27-06-2020, 11:32 PM
Does anyone have the link to the PM membership payment page. Can’t seem to find it on the mobile version and really don’t want to change it to desktop view if I don’t have to. I’ve been meaning to re-subscribe over the past seven years, the ads have pushed me to it 😂

Here's the link - https://www.hibs.net/payments.php

HibeeSince85
27-06-2020, 11:33 PM
You'll need to switch to desktop to sign up, but you're able to switch back whenever you want to.

All done, and the ads are gone! Cheers.

Vault Boy
27-06-2020, 11:36 PM
All done, and the ads are gone! Cheers.

:aok:

SuperTortolano
27-06-2020, 11:48 PM
Adverts doing my nut in, Will defo reduce my viewing time.
Me too

mcohibs
27-06-2020, 11:52 PM
Same! It's brutal!

Exact same for me. It's a mess with the ads and makes it very difficult to use.

Have always viewed the forum through Internet browser/Chrome on an android and have never seen any ads until now

Man Down Under
27-06-2020, 11:52 PM
Tapatalk is a good app if your on mobile, easier to navigate and post too.

Sent from my SM-A205GN using Tapatalk

HoboHarry
27-06-2020, 11:54 PM
Here's the link - https://www.hibs.net/payments.php

Can any old yahoo like me pay for the PM thing?

matty_f
28-06-2020, 12:00 AM
Bear in mind we've been at pains to stress that we're testing stuff so we expect some things to work and others not to work as well. A wee bit of patience and understanding would be appreciated.

The other thing to note is that while you can use the site for free, and you're absolutely welcome to, the revenue that comes in from the ads all goes to the club, and everything we can raise is going to help at a very difficult time for the club and it doesn't cost any of us anything other than some temporary inconvenience.

jacomo
28-06-2020, 12:09 AM
Here's the link - https://www.hibs.net/payments.php


Just do this folks. If you enjoy Hibs.net then £10 makes the ads go away, supports the site and supports the club.

Steve-O
28-06-2020, 12:16 AM
In an ideal world we wouldn't have any adverts.

Until we have our own Benny Factor :greengrin unfortunately some things still need to be paid for.

Or did you think it all runs for free?

Passive aggressive responses certainly won’t help.

If the ads are as widespread as this trial period, then less people will visit and there’ll be no point in any ads. That’s the balance you have to find.

Don’t mind ads and understand why they’re there, but ads all over the place and having to actually click ‘close’ is counterproductive in my view.

The 90+2
28-06-2020, 02:01 AM
Adverts pay for this wonderful forum as well as £10 subscriptions to keep running? How can anyone complain man?

Juniper Greens
28-06-2020, 05:40 AM
My feedback for the team is that the adds between posts aren't helpful as they don't immediately load all the time, meaning when you then click on reply, you end up clicking on an add when the page shunts. This is what stopped me using the EEN website and I can see that no PM subscriptions are available, so theres no way out.

marinello59
28-06-2020, 06:43 AM
My feedback for the team is that the adds between posts aren't helpful as they don't immediately load all the time, meaning when you then click on reply, you end up clicking on an add when the page shunts. This is what stopped me using the EEN website and I can see that no PM subscriptions are available, so theres no way out.

Many thanks for that. Could you also let us know which browser/device type you are using.
You should be able to see available PM subscriptions available HERE. (https://www.hibs.net/payments.php) If you still can't let me know and we will get it sorted for you if required. I must stress though it was not our intention to drive anybody towards a paid subscription and we are striving towards ironing out the teething problems so that every visitor to the forum has a good experience

Renfrew_Hibby
28-06-2020, 07:12 AM
That's not been the case for me. I view the forum using google chrome on an android and I've never seen adverts on the site until the last couple of days. There are now huge, multiple multi-coloured adverts on every page. It's significantly reduced the user experience and it now resembles websites like the evening news or the daily record.

Is the big advert that sits right between the first and second post on every page absolutely necessary? It's the most intrusive one IMO and quite irritating.

I agree with all of this. This is my experience, I've already found myself popping onto the site for wee catch ups less often the last couple of days as a result.

Stanton Spence
28-06-2020, 07:25 AM
I've also went from no adverts to the three top middle and bottom of the screen and find it pretty annoying to say the least. I use Google chrome on my phone to browse and seldom post due to the fact that I have to use Tapatalk to post. Can anyone tell me that if I was to become a PM and pay the tenner would that mean I will be able to post using chrome from my phone? Or would I still need to use Tapatalk to post?

Sent from my G3121 using Tapatalk

Big_Franck
28-06-2020, 07:38 AM
I've also went from no adverts to the three top middle and bottom of the screen and find it pretty annoying to say the least. I use Google chrome on my phone to browse and seldom post due to the fact that I have to use Tapatalk to post. Can anyone tell me that if I was to become a PM and pay the tenner would that mean I will be able to post using chrome from my phone? Or would I still need to use Tapatalk to post?

Sent from my G3121 using Tapatalk

You can still make posts on threads using google chrome on an android. You just need to click on the 'Reply' button at the bottom of any other users posts. When the box to post then appears you need to delete all the text unless you want to quote that user.

Stanton Spence
28-06-2020, 08:22 AM
You can still make posts on threads using google chrome on an android. You just need to click on the 'Reply' button at the bottom of any other users posts. When the box to post then appears you need to delete all the text unless you want to quote that user.Hi franck thanks, I've tried that numerous times mate and whenever I hit the reply function my screen just goes blank. I have mentioned this to the admins before and was told its something to do with my browser and to try and use another one. I then tried Firefox and the same thing happened. The only way I can post using my phone is through Tapatalk. I'm not the best with tech and apps etc and prefer to keep it simple and just use my phone
I would have no problem paying the tenner just to get shot of these massive adverts but it's pretty pointless if I have to still use another app to post


Sent from my G3121 using Tapatalk

Big_Franck
28-06-2020, 09:06 AM
Admins, you'll probably already be aware of this but I just wanted to share my experiences. I've switched back to the desktop version of the site on chrome on an Android and the user experience is a little better.

Using the desktop site on an android does involve zooming in and out at times to be able to read the text, but the advert to regular content ratio is much better. The adverts don't take up anywhere near as much of the screen on the desktop site. When I switch back to the mobile site on chrome on my phone the adverts are huge and at times they take up the majority of the screen. Not sure if the size and placing of the ads can be adjusted for mobile users but just thought I'd give some feedback. Cheers!

Scouse Hibee
28-06-2020, 09:13 AM
Me too

Pay a tenner become a PM, the ads go away and you contribute to the upkeep of a fantastic forum.

Steve-O
28-06-2020, 09:33 AM
Many thanks for that. Could you also let us know which browser/device type you are using.
You should be able to see available PM subscriptions available HERE. (https://www.hibs.net/payments.php) If you still can't let me know and we will get it sorted for you if required. I must stress though it was not our intention to drive anybody towards a paid subscription and we are striving towards ironing out the teething problems so that every visitor to the forum has a good experience

This is how it looks on iPhone and it’s very off-putting.

phantom
28-06-2020, 03:21 PM
Pay a tenner become a PM, the ads go away and you contribute to the upkeep of a fantastic forum.

But some of us can't do that for some reason? "hibs.net Messageboard does not have any paid subscriptions available to which you can subscribe." comes up.

I don't post very often but like reading the site but these new ads are too intrusive. I can't post a screenshot because the file is too big and I'm not technically minded. I have to increase text size of the site so I can read screen easily and the top ads and bottom ads take up most of the screen. Don't mind the top ads and embedded ads in first post, although they're annoyingly big now when they never used to be (and yes, I'm aware my resizing doesn't help that problem, but it's proportional), but they're rarely relevant so I never click on them and now that these intrusive new bottom ones pop up on every page I can't pay to get rid of them?

Barney McGrew
28-06-2020, 03:45 PM
But some of us can't do that for some reason? "hibs.net Messageboard does not have any paid subscriptions available to which you can subscribe." comes up

If you try it again now you should be good to go :aok:

Juniper Greens
28-06-2020, 04:19 PM
Many thanks for that. Could you also let us know which browser/device type you are using.
You should be able to see available PM subscriptions available HERE. (https://www.hibs.net/payments.php) If you still can't let me know and we will get it sorted for you if required. I must stress though it was not our intention to drive anybody towards a paid subscription and we are striving towards ironing out the teething problems so that every visitor to the forum has a good experience
Thanks Marinello
Using Google Chrome on the mobile phone.
Ironically, the most annoying thing about the add at the bottom is the close button, meaning it pops up, rather than just being in a ribbon above the keyboard

Juniper Greens
28-06-2020, 04:21 PM
Many thanks for that. Could you also let us know which browser/device type you are using.
You should be able to see available PM subscriptions available HERE. (https://www.hibs.net/payments.php) If you still can't let me know and we will get it sorted for you if required. I must stress though it was not our intention to drive anybody towards a paid subscription and we are striving towards ironing out the teething problems so that every visitor to the forum has a good experience

Still coming up saying that no paid subscription is available

marinello59
28-06-2020, 04:44 PM
Still coming up saying that no paid subscription is available

Pm incoming. :greengrin

phantom
28-06-2020, 04:57 PM
If you try it again now you should be good to go :aok:


Signed up! Oh, what a joy! Blessed relief! No more ads!

(Plus I've been cheekily reading the site since 2007 so about time I contributed...)

NRW_Hibbie
29-06-2020, 03:35 PM
I'm also unable to access a PM subscription; I presume it relates to my paltry post count. I'll happily pay £10 to get rid of these adverts!

Hibee Mac
29-06-2020, 06:58 PM
Just thought I'd add something for the admins, never had this problem before but ever since the adverts have been added the forum no longer remembers where I last was on a specific thread.

Now every time I click a thread Ive been on it takes me to somewhere I was say a week ago, but not where I last viewed the day before.

uwxm07
29-06-2020, 10:45 PM
How do I pay ... it tells me no paid subs available whatever it do and I spend more time getting rid of ads than reading the site .- I don’t post much but as there isn’t a lot going on atm I am getting to the point I don’t even want to check . Getting worse than the hootsmon//EEN and I never check these sites now as they are awful
The previous ads were fine but Every time I click I see some bloke in a doggy t shirt idoing my head in- I don’t even register the brand ..

ian cruise
29-06-2020, 11:02 PM
Thought I'd log out to see what the deal was with the ads, here's my feedback.

Adverts definitely make browsing the forum a bit slower as they need to load up but that might have been the case before, I've been a pm for a while so not aware of the previous adverts.

Top Advert is a pretty big box, could do with being half the size.

Under the first post I seem to get two adverts, one targeted and one for betting which I think is a generic ad Google have assigned assuming football fans like to place a bet. One I could probably live with but two is excessive and takes up a lot of room.

Ad at bottom of the page is same size as the one at the top but for some reason seems less invasive.

Banner ad with the close option didn't bother me.

Recommendations taking in to account the ad revenue is important I would reduce the size of the top advert and if the one after the first post is to stay just have one though it's undoubtedly a better experience if that one is removed. Ads at the bottom are fine IMHO.

Browsing on Google chrome on android using lite mode.

Vault Boy
29-06-2020, 11:06 PM
Thought I'd log out to see what the deal was with the ads, here's my feedback.

Adverts definitely make browsing the forum a bit slower as they need to load up but that might have been the case before, I've been a pm for a while so not aware of the previous adverts.

Top Advert is a pretty big box, could do with being half the size.

Under the first post I seem to get two adverts, one targeted and one for betting which I think is a generic ad Google have assigned assuming football fans like to place a bet. One I could probably live with but two is excessive and takes up a lot of room.

Ad at bottom of the page is same size as the one at the top but for some reason seems less invasive.

Banner ad with the close option didn't bother me.

Recommendations taking in to account the ad revenue is important I would reduce the size of the top advert and if the one after the first post is to stay just have one though it's undoubtedly a better experience if that one is removed. Ads at the bottom are fine IMHO.

Browsing on Google chrome on android using lite mode.

Thank you for the helpful feedback IC. We're trying to balance the experiences being had by a lot of users, so detailed notes like this are useful. :aok:

heretoday
29-06-2020, 11:13 PM
Yeah well the "experience" had by this user is crap. I don't really care but it's pretty annoying, bro?

Vault Boy
29-06-2020, 11:25 PM
Yeah well the "experience" had by this user is crap. I don't really care but it's pretty annoying, bro?

What's the question?

H18 SFR
29-06-2020, 11:58 PM
I don’t know if you can track the time each member is on the site, my time on/number of ‘clicks’ has absolutely reduced over the last few days.

heretoday
30-06-2020, 01:51 AM
What's the question?

Forget it...............

BILLYHIBS
30-06-2020, 06:48 AM
Pay a tenner become a PM, the ads go away and you contribute to the upkeep of a fantastic forum.

This!

I am a PM and never had an ad ....apart from 5 min tester last week .....fank ****!

You know it makes sense

ChooseLife
30-06-2020, 11:18 AM
Not a fan of the new style ads guys, I was an everyday reader before the covid stuff, no games = no new threads so I haven't been on everyday like I used to, I can't see me returning daily when there's ads popping up over what you're trying to read that need closed down, it's these style of ads that are killing off the EEN articles, I've been a PM before for a number of years and understand that I can remove the ads by doing that, but in 2020 with social media football groups being so popular I think they are going to replace the old fans forums like hibs.net and kickback.

NRW_Hibbie
30-06-2020, 11:22 AM
£10 very well spent!

penihibs
30-06-2020, 12:40 PM
Pm incoming. :greengrin

I'm getting same message could you advise please.

hibee_girl
30-06-2020, 01:00 PM
I'm getting same message could you advise please.

I've had a look at your account and it should be set up for you to become a PM - https://www.hibs.net/payments.php

If you're having trouble send me a PM :aok:

Hibs90
30-06-2020, 01:36 PM
Browsing on mobile is just ridiculous now. Using an Android device.

3 huge ads, some that stretch the page wide and darken the actual forum so you can't scroll up or down to read posts without scrolling wide to close one of the ads.

If ads are necessary then can we at least get the right sizes please for the mobile version. The size of them is whats causing the majority of problems.

Not everyone has a spare tenner but do understand the ads help with the monetary side.

BroxburnHibee
30-06-2020, 01:45 PM
Browsing on mobile is just ridiculous now. Using an Android device.

3 huge ads, some that stretch the page wide and darken the actual forum so you can't scroll up or down to read posts without scrolling wide to close one of the ads.

If ads are necessary then can we at least get the right sizes please for the mobile version. The size of them is whats causing the majority of problems.

Not everyone has a spare tenner but do understand the ads help with the monetary side.

Are you using the 'Lite' version?

pacoluna
30-06-2020, 05:20 PM
So is this site now subscription based if you don't want adds poping up everywhere?

Since452
30-06-2020, 05:23 PM
I love the ads. Never thought of changing career before but now I'm thinking about starting my own delivery business with the support of Amazon

Hibs90
30-06-2020, 05:29 PM
Are you using the 'Lite' version?
I don't know because I cant see the bottom of the page due to the ad banner. It's the one with the green header for mobile.

Hibee Mac
30-06-2020, 05:32 PM
So is this site now subscription based if you don't want adds poping up everywhere?

Appears so, quite a shame as it cheapens the feel of the site and will likely push people away.

The 90+2
30-06-2020, 05:42 PM
I love the ads. Never thought of changing career before but now I'm thinking about starting my own delivery business with the support of Amazon

😂😂😂😂

Pretty Boy
30-06-2020, 05:57 PM
Ads aren't new. We have had them for well over a decade. They have been added to the mobile skin for the 1st time recently, given this is how many people will now access the site surely this isn't a shock?As has been said we are looking at feedback and trying to get the balance right.

I struggle to think of any sites or apps I regularly visit now that don't have adverts in one guise or another.

Sir David Gray
30-06-2020, 06:19 PM
This isn't ads related as I don't get them as a PM but since there's talk about the site updates in general on this thread, I thought I would give my thoughts on the changes to mobile view which seems to have taken effect as of this morning. I posted on the technical help forum earlier on but I figured that this thread will get read a lot more than the other one. I almost exclusively use my phone to access this site and I'm not in favour at all of the layout of the mobile version that I now have access to. I understand from the reply I received on the technical help forum that there's an upgrade due soon so hopefully that will improve things overall but in the meantime, I'm not a fan of the layout I'm currently using and, to be honest, it will probably put me off coming on here as much as I usually do until the upgrades are done (some might say that's a plus point! :greengrin

Danderhall Hibs
30-06-2020, 07:35 PM
I’ve just ordered the worlds first bra free bra.

PM me if you want to buy it - will be going on eBay tomorrow but would prefer to sell to someone on here first.

Danderhall Hibs
30-06-2020, 07:35 PM
Also claimed the free legal last will.

£5 to the first person that PMs me.

Since90+2
01-07-2020, 07:22 AM
This isn't ads related as I don't get them as a PM but since there's talk about the site updates in general on this thread, I thought I would give my thoughts on the changes to mobile view which seems to have taken effect as of this morning. I posted on the technical help forum earlier on but I figured that this thread will get read a lot more than the other one. I almost exclusively use my phone to access this site and I'm not in favour at all of the layout of the mobile version that I now have access to. I understand from the reply I received on the technical help forum that there's an upgrade due soon so hopefully that will improve things overall but in the meantime, I'm not a fan of the layout I'm currently using and, to be honest, it will probably put me off coming on here as much as I usually do until the upgrades are done (some might say that's a plus point! :greengrin

Agree with this. The changes have made the site far less user friendly on mobile.

Curried
01-07-2020, 07:38 AM
Hibs.net was a pleasure to read just a couple of weeks ago, but the new banner adds at the bottom of the page are just painful on a PC as i have to close these off every time i want to read a page or change a page. If you drop them, i may be inclined to become a more frequent visitor to the site and accordingly read the many other fantastic adverts on display.

ColintonHibs
01-07-2020, 05:46 PM
Just started getting hammered with these ads can’t even use hibs.net on mobile anymore. Must get rid

ColintonHibs
01-07-2020, 05:47 PM
Must be the " new normal" 😒

New normal sickens me across the board and now .net. FFS are you guys struggling that much?

BS44
01-07-2020, 05:52 PM
How much does it cost to run hibs net over a year?

hibee_girl
01-07-2020, 06:17 PM
New normal sickens me across the board and now .net. FFS are you guys struggling that much?

Not at all.

The adverts pay for all the admins :greengrin

Danderhall Hibs
01-07-2020, 06:19 PM
How much does it cost to run hibs net over a year?
Not as much as they take in - the excess is given to Hibs. A wee annoying advert here and there but all the money goes to Hibs.

BS44
01-07-2020, 06:52 PM
Not as much as they take in - the excess is given to Hibs. A wee annoying advert here and there but all the money goes to Hibs.

How much do the annoying adverts bring in? :greengrin

Hibee Mac
01-07-2020, 07:13 PM
Not as much as they take in - the excess is given to Hibs. A wee annoying advert here and there but all the money goes to Hibs.

If you're referring to the mobile experience then the new experience is far from a wee annoying advert here or there. When I open a thread 75% of my screen is covered in adverts.

I also don't understand why adverts are being used in the first place to be honest. I would argue that ruining the site experience for most of its users is not worth any extra revenue, supporters give money to Hibs in a variety of other ways including season tickets, HSL, merchandise etc etc. and this site should be focussed on providing a place for fans to freely discuss Hibs on an easy to use platform.

If it was a massive amount of money for the club then it would maybe be a different story, but I highly doubt it is. I'd also just add that I suspect the running costs for a forum are tiny and likely don't justify any adverts at all considering there is a cost for PM's anyway, particularly not the amount and size of adverts currently in place.

Scouse Hibee
01-07-2020, 07:22 PM
If you're referring to the mobile experience then the new experience is far from a wee annoying advert here or there. When I open a thread 75% of my screen is covered in adverts.

I also don't understand why adverts are being used in the first place to be honest. I would argue that ruining the site experience for most of its users is not worth any extra revenue, supporters give money to Hibs in a variety of other ways including season tickets, HSL, merchandise etc etc. and this site should be focussed on providing a place for fans to freely discuss Hibs on an easy to use platform.

If it was a massive amount of money for the club then it would maybe be a different story, but I highly doubt it is. I'd also just add that I suspect the running costs for a forum are tiny and likely don't justify any adverts at all considering there is a cost for PM's anyway, particularly not the amount and size of adverts currently in place.

Regardless of what the site actually costs to run it has been a fantastically run site for years and still remains to be so. The admins give their time to moderate this site and keep on top of any problems it may have, they do a great job and are currently taking steps to further improve the experience and react to feedback. You can pay £10 and not have any issues with adverts and become a private member. If you don’t want to pay £10 or are unable to due to finances then fair enough, but you have to accept that you might be inconvenienced whilst the site develops.

DaveF
01-07-2020, 07:31 PM
If it was a massive amount of money for the club then it would maybe be a different story, but I highly doubt it is. I'd also just add that I suspect the running costs for a forum are tiny

I think the site has donated 10k per year over the last 10 years or thereabouts.

As for running costs, it's not cheap. Or certainly wasn't when I was involved.

Hibee Mac
01-07-2020, 07:33 PM
Regardless of what the site actually costs to run it has been a fantastically run site for years and still remains to be so. The admins give their time to moderate this site and keep on top of any problems it may have, they do a great job and are currently taking steps to further improve the experience and react to feedback. You can pay £10 and not have any issues with adverts and become a private member. If you don’t want to pay £10 or are unable to due to finances then fair enough, but you have to accept that you might be inconvenienced whilst the site develops.

Don't get me wrong mate I totally agree that admins do a great job on this site and the fact it's been so well run over the past is part of the reason I stick around. Not meaning to have a go at admins at all.

I'm also on the verge of become a PM just to get rid of the adverts, I just don't think that's how the site should function. I appreciate that admins have said previously they aren't trying to force people into PM but that is effectively what is happening.

I'm sure the vast majority of users of this site are not PMs and use mobile to view it, in which case I'm aware that the site experience has been significantly hampered for the majority of people in that case, which in turn is likely to push people away going forward and that's bad for all of us.

Hibee Mac
01-07-2020, 07:34 PM
I think the site has donated 10k per year over the last 10 years or thereabouts.

As for running costs, it's not cheap. Or certainly wasn't when I was involved.

Fair enough, I stand corrected!

Sir David Gray
01-07-2020, 07:36 PM
Agree with this. The changes have made the site far less user friendly on mobile.

I might be wrong but it looks like you now need to use the desktop version to be able to use the multi quote function. I can't see this option anywhere on the mobile version I've had to use since yesterday. :dunno:

marinello59
01-07-2020, 07:38 PM
If you're referring to the mobile experience then the new experience is far from a wee annoying advert here or there. When I open a thread 75% of my screen is covered in adverts.

I also don't understand why adverts are being used in the first place to be honest. I would argue that ruining the site experience for most of its users is not worth any extra revenue, supporters give money to Hibs in a variety of other ways including season tickets, HSL, merchandise etc etc. and this site should be focussed on providing a place for fans to freely discuss Hibs on an easy to use platform.

If it was a massive amount of money for the club then it would maybe be a different story, but I highly doubt it is. I'd also just add that I suspect the running costs for a forum are tiny and likely don't justify any adverts at all considering there is a cost for PM's anyway, particularly not the amount and size of adverts currently in place.

Rest assured we are working on things. We do realise it's not ideal at the moment but we have been trying a few different things.

As for the money we donate to Hibs, it depends what you call a massive amount. I'll try and find a more up to date figure but our £11000 donation to youth development last year took the total we have handed to Hibs in the form of donations, sponsorships etc to over £98000. And that's all down to the members here .

Carheenlea
01-07-2020, 07:52 PM
I’ve always used the desktop version on my mobile phone simply because I find it more pleasing on the eye and It’s pretty much the only version I’ve used so anything other than that never feels like reading Hibs.net!
Have not seen any ads in the period of this thread.

Danderhall Hibs
01-07-2020, 07:53 PM
If you're referring to the mobile experience then the new experience is far from a wee annoying advert here or there. When I open a thread 75% of my screen is covered in adverts.


It’s the mobile I use and I get an advert at the top, the bottom and one after the first post I think.

Also the “remember where I was” function doesn’t work as well anymore.

It’s a bit annoying but that’s all.

WhileTheChief..
01-07-2020, 07:56 PM
Make the £10 compulsory if you want to be able to post something instead of just viewing.

More money to Hibs, no ads and possibly less nonsense!

danhibees1875
01-07-2020, 07:56 PM
I might be wrong but it looks like you now need to use the desktop version to be able to use the multi quote function. I can't see this option anywhere on the mobile version I've had to use since yesterday. :dunno:

I'm not sure about the other mobile version you were using but you're right that the one you're likely on now doesn't.

I just quote someone then copy the text then paste it above the second person I quote.

Danderhall Hibs
01-07-2020, 07:58 PM
I'm not sure about the other mobile version you were using but you're right that the one you're likely on now doesn't.

I just quote someone then copy the text then paste it above the second person I quote.

I’ve never been able to multi quote using the mobile site.

BroxburnHibee
01-07-2020, 08:01 PM
I’ve never been able to multi quote using the mobile site.

There was another mobile version which had been left as an option by mistake. We have now removed it as it wasn't meant to be there.

Apologies to SDG but it was an old skin which had been missed at the last update.

danhibees1875
01-07-2020, 08:03 PM
I’ve never been able to multi quote using the mobile site.

There was 2 mobile versions. I think the majority of people were using the one that's still here and are still on that. SDG was using the other one it seems and is now on this one which doesn't have, and never has, the multipost function as a button.

But it works with some copy paste. :aok:

Sir David Gray
01-07-2020, 08:16 PM
There was another mobile version which had been left as an option by mistake. We have now removed it as it wasn't meant to be there.

Apologies to SDG but it was an old skin which had been missed at the last update.

Do you mind if I ask why the other mobile view was removed and never meant to be there but the other one's still there? There just doesn't seem to be any comparison between the look, feel, functionality and how easy they both are/were to use and navigate.

I want to be clear that I'm absolutely not against change if it's for the better and I'm happy to give things a bit of time if there's further updates planned soon but I have to be completely honest and say that, as someone who almost always views the site on my phone, my experience of using the site has dropped as a result of this change.

I hope that the admin team take my comments in the constructive way in which they are intended.

tamig
01-07-2020, 08:19 PM
Do you mind if I ask why the other mobile view was removed and never meant to be there but the other one's still there? There just doesn't seem to be any comparison between the look, feel, functionality and how easy they both are/were to use and navigate.

I want to be clear that I'm absolutely not against change if it's for the better and I'm happy to give things a bit of time if there's further updates planned soon but I have to be completely honest and say that, as someone who almost always views the site on my phone, my experience of using the site has dropped as a result of this change.

I hope that the admin team take my comments in the constructive way in which they are intended.
You could always raise a petition and take it to the CoS?

Sergy Pie
01-07-2020, 08:22 PM
It’s not a great user experience but knowing the site well and what it stands for and promotes, I can put up with it.

Great that the site generates so much money for the club but some could be invested back into the site providing a slicker experience meaning increased traffic and more revenue potential.

Does the site use Cloud technologies? is their a pre production, pipeline of development sites or back up that could be used to gauge user experiences away from the live site before tinkering with your live platform? Not a great way to gather feedback generally.

Understand the pressures and difficulties but it does feel there is a less intrusive way to get the end result. However, easy to criticise from the side lines (see what I did there?)

Sir David Gray
01-07-2020, 09:50 PM
You could always raise a petition and take it to the CoS?

Sorry you've lost me.

O'Rourke3
01-07-2020, 09:54 PM
God knows what view settings Im using but im not seeing any ads other than the tapatalk adds. Not on as often on the pc but not really getting the terrible experience others seem to be at the moment.

Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk

Onion
01-07-2020, 10:00 PM
Hibs.net was a pleasure to read just a couple of weeks ago, but the new banner adds at the bottom of the page are just painful on a PC as i have to close these off every time i want to read a page or change a page. If you drop them, i may be inclined to become a more frequent visitor to the site and accordingly read the many other fantastic adverts on display.

:agree: It's like something out of the 2000's. Intrusive, unwanted, spam-like advertising that annoys does nothing for the brands that advertise or the host. Get rid of these annoying ads. Nothing Hibs class about them.

tamig
01-07-2020, 10:03 PM
Sorry you've lost me.

Its kind of topical - but hey-ho.

Scouse Hibee
01-07-2020, 10:20 PM
Sorry you've lost me.

That’s what the judge said to the Hearts lawyer.

Sir David Gray
01-07-2020, 10:23 PM
Its kind of topical - but hey-ho.

Oh I see the court?

I'd hoped my earlier post wasn't seen as attention seeking or over the top. I simply wanted to provide some constructive feedback.

Sir David Gray
01-07-2020, 10:26 PM
That’s what the judge said to the Hearts lawyer.

Cheers I got there eventually. I had been trying to have a serious discussion and was initially confused by the response.