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Sylar
20-06-2020, 08:32 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/police-dealing-with-serious-incident-after-black-lives-matter-protest-in-reading-12011506

Not sure if this is a terror attack or not yet, but reports that up to 12 people have been stabbed, 3 fatally in Forbury Gardens, Reading. It happened in the same location a Black Lives Matter protest took place earlier today (though that finished up 3 hours before this incident, so I don't know if it's relevant or not) and according to folks in the area on Twitter, all victims are white (again, could be total nonsense).

There are some pretty horrific videos on Twitter of police tending to victims at the scene - terror attack or not, it looks like a horrible scene!

-Jonesy-
20-06-2020, 08:36 PM
Plenty people jumping on this as an exscuse to attack
BLM but by all accounts the protest ended several hours ago. Even by that logic it would sound like a targeted attack on the BLM protesters but nothing is confirmed right now.

Videos on twitter pretty horrific, got to wonder who sees several people in pools of blood fighting for their lives and decided a to get it on snapchat before anything else.

G B Young
20-06-2020, 11:57 PM
Horrendous scenes by the sounds of it.

The arrested man is Libyan according to the Mirror and the incident is being treated as terror related. An eye witness claims an unarmed police officer 'rugby tackled' him. Brave act if that's the case.

silverhibee
21-06-2020, 01:09 AM
Now not being treated as a terrorist attack, Thames police saying it is now a murder investigation.

G B Young
21-06-2020, 10:31 AM
Horrible weekend for news stories when coupled with that flat fire in Paisley.

hibsbollah
21-06-2020, 10:33 AM
Plenty people jumping on this as an exscuse to attack
BLM but by all accounts the protest ended several hours ago. Even by that logic it would sound like a targeted attack on the BLM protesters but nothing is confirmed right now.

Videos on twitter pretty horrific, got to wonder who sees several people in pools of blood fighting for their lives and decided a to get it on snapchat before anything else.

Sadly it seems it was indeed a brown man. Which is all some people need. Tommy will be rubbing his hands together.

Caversham Green
21-06-2020, 10:45 AM
Apparently it has been declared a terrorist attack now. Not related to the BLM rally which ended a fair bit earlier. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the victims had been at the rally though.

silverhibee
21-06-2020, 11:02 AM
A asylum seeker from Libya, has served a prison sentence for assault in the uk and should have been extradited after his sentence but our government thought it would be unsafe to send him back to Libya due to the unrest in that country.

G B Young
21-06-2020, 11:21 AM
Apparently it has been declared a terrorist attack now. Not related to the BLM rally which ended a fair bit earlier. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the victims had been at the rally though.

Yep confirmed as terrorism. Just what the nation needs right now as people attempt to get back to some sort of normality. B*****d must be insane.

G B Young
21-06-2020, 11:28 AM
Sadly it seems it was indeed a brown man. Which is all some people need. Tommy will be rubbing his hands together.

I understand your point but in this kind of incident skin colour is surely irrelevant to any right-minded person. You wouldn't, presumably, have written 'Happily it seems it was a white man'. Pure evil is pure evil no matter the perpetrator.

Hibrandenburg
21-06-2020, 12:03 PM
I understand your point but in this kind of incident skin colour is surely irrelevant to any right-minded person. You wouldn't, presumably, have written 'Happily it seems it was a white man'. Pure evil is pure evil no matter the perpetrator.

:agree:

Betty Boop
21-06-2020, 12:51 PM
A asylum seeker from Libya, has served a prison sentence for assault in the uk and should have been extradited after his sentence but our government thought it would be unsafe to send him back to Libya due to the unrest in that country.


Aye Libya anther country the UK had a hand in destroying.

Pretty Boy
21-06-2020, 06:16 PM
Aye Libya anther country the UK had a hand in destroying.

Incidentally you can purchase a black slave in Libya for about $400 now, a practice that was illegal under Gadaffi.

I wonder if Hillary Clinton has tweeted about how black lives matter?

Keith_M
21-06-2020, 06:42 PM
Incidentally you can purchase a black slave in Libya for about $400 now, a practice that was illegal under Gadaffi.

I wonder if Hillary Clinton has tweeted about how black lives matter?


The attention that terrible events or situations get from the media, and protest groups, is always much higher for events that are either in their own country... or in the US (at least for countries in the western world).

The value put on the importance of people's lives is much lower if they're in developing or third world countries.

I'd love to see the media put pressure on the EPL to have the words 'End Slavery in Africa' on the shirts of all member clubs but find it incredibly unlikely.

This is not an issue you'll find in The Guardian

CapitalGreen
21-06-2020, 06:57 PM
The attention that terrible events or situations get from the media, and protest groups, is always much higher for events that are either in their own country... or in the US (at least for countries in the western world).

The value put on the importance of people's lives is much lower if they're in developing or third world countries.

I'd love to see the media put pressure on the EPL to have the words 'End Slavery in Africa' on the shirts of all member clubs but find it incredibly unlikely.

This is not an issue you'll find in The Guardian

The Guardian has a section of its website dedicated to articles about modern day slavery in Africa. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/series/modern-day-slavery-in-focus+world/africa

Keith_M
21-06-2020, 07:18 PM
The Guardian has a section of its website dedicated to articles about modern day slavery in Africa. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/series/modern-day-slavery-in-focus+world/africa


Thanks, I stand corrected in the case of The Guardian. Though I look at their website regularly and wasn't even aware it was there.

I still think the general point is true in the level of importance an issue is, and the number of articles dedicated to it.

For instance, four thousand dying in a horrible attack on New York and the whole world stops.

Quarter of a Million people dying in a tsunami in the Indian Ocean did get a lot of media coverage, but reaction generally wasn't anything like the same scale.

-Jonesy-
21-06-2020, 09:56 PM
Thanks, I stand corrected in the case of The Guardian. Though I look at their website regularly and wasn't even aware it was there.

I still think the general point is true in the level of importance an issue is, and the number of articles dedicated to it.

For instance, four thousand dying in a horrible attack on New York and the whole world stops.

Quarter of a Million people dying in a tsunami in the Indian Ocean did get a lot of media coverage, but reaction generally wasn't anything like the same scale.

That was a natural disaster though, can hardly wage a decade of a “war on earthquakes” afterwards. Don’t think it’s a legitimate comparison to make.

G B Young
21-06-2020, 10:37 PM
Any life lost in such barbaric, senseless fashion is tragic, but it's very sad to read about the first victim named from yesterday. Sounds like an inspirational figure. Anyone with kids, or who remembers a particularly good teacher from school, knows how valued such people are:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53130559

Keith_M
24-06-2020, 04:27 PM
That was a natural disaster though, can hardly wage a decade of a “war on earthquakes” afterwards. Don’t think it’s a legitimate comparison to make.


I wasn't talking about what could be done, more the level of sympathy involved.