Katie Hopkins - lifetime Twitter ban

[speedy_gonzales]

Reported that Katie Hopkins has been banned for life from Twitter.
I'm delighted but a lot of folk are arguing that the far left are trying to stifle free speech.

She was a person full of hate, I think she actually may be suffering from some mental health ailment as she was so unhappy.
In the last week she's been ripping in to BLM & Marcus Rashford in a venomous way, I understand that controversy generates clicks and keeps her "current" but she offered nothing. She just brought folk down.
Horrible, spiteful little person!

[Beefster]

Makes her living from peddling her bile. This will probably make her a bigger draw for the alt-right twats that love that.

[Sir David Gray]

I read this earlier. I personally have no time for a lot of her views but I do think that, except when you're making direct threats to incite violence and endanger life, restricting someone's right to free speech is a dangerous road to go down and, in a twisted way, it might actually make those who agree with her even more extreme.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

[CallumLaidlaw]

I read this earlier. I personally have no time for a lot of her views but I do think that, except when you're making direct threats to encite violence and endanger life, restricting someone's right to free speech is a dangerous road to go down and, in a twisted way, it might actually make those who agree with her even more extreme.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

Her claiming that wednesday this week was “white wednesday” probably finished her off.


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[Keith_M]

Her claiming that wednesday this week was “white wednesday” probably finished her off.



'Free Speech' has to have some limitations.

Sounds to me like she's crossed a line.

[Pretty Boy]

She's not being denied her right to freedom of speech.

She can still say whatever she wants to, one company have just denied her access to their platform. It's no different from a 'the management reserve the right to refuse admission' sign outside a pub. That doesn't mean you can't drink, it just means you have to go elsewhere to do so.

[Sir David Gray]

Her claiming that wednesday this week was “white wednesday” probably finished her off.


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It's not something I would ever post myself or even wish to associate with but when Donald Trump posted a recent tweet that was a thinly veiled reference to the police/army shooting people who were looting and all he got was a warning placed over the tweet, I'm not so sure she should be banned for that.

[CallumLaidlaw]

It's not something I would ever post myself or even wish to associate with but when Donald Trump posted a recent tweet that was a thinly veiled reference to the police/army shooting people who were looting and all he got was a warning placed over the tweet, I'm not so sure she should be banned for that.

I’d imagine it’s the straw that broke the camels back rather than the sole reason.


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[-Jonesy-]

Get her in the bin, horrible rubber faced cow

Twitter is a private platform it’s got nothing to do with her free speech.

She’s free to go anywhere she likes and speak her mindless bigoted tripe and no one will stop her, only difference is she won’t have one million similar minded brain dead idiots hanging on her empty words and she won’t have the safety of race baiting from behind the security of a smartphone.

She recently had to sell her house to pay for a libel case
,hopefully she now has to see what life is like for all the other single parents and refugees she happily denigrates.

1 down, many still to go, **** Hopkins

[Sir David Gray]

I’d imagine it’s the straw that broke the camels back rather than the sole reason.


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Granted, I've probably not read every single tweet from Katie Hopkins but in any that I have seen, she always comes across as someone who revels in being deliberately provocative rather than someone who is making direct threats to incite violence.

[-Jonesy-]

Granted, I've probably not read every single tweet from Katie Hopkins but in any that I have seen, she always comes across as someone who revels in being deliberately provocative rather than someone who is making direct threats to incite violence.

She’s as openly racist as anyone on twitter, and absolutely like a 12 year old troll about it as well.

[Callum_62]

Would proclaiming sympathy for ISIS be classed as free speech?

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[Sir David Gray]

Would proclaiming sympathy for ISIS be classed as free speech?

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Not under my definition at least. That would come under inciting violence for me.

[Callum_62]

Not under my definition at least. That would come under inciting violence for me.Thats my point, "free speech" isn't really what it sounds like

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[Kato]

I read this earlier. I personally have no time for a lot of her views but I do think that, except when you're making direct threats to incite violence and endanger life, restricting someone's right to free speech is a dangerous road to go down and, in a twisted way, it might actually make those who agree with her even more extreme.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice HallThing is when you put something up on twitter you aren't "saying" it - you're publishing it. Saying stuff and publishing stuff are two wholly separate things and can have wholly different outcomes.

Some of the things she has published in the past are beyond the pale and very much resemble or in fact are fascistic ramblings, attacking totally innocent targets. I too reckon she might have mental health problems but she pretty adept at targeting vulnerable people so maybe she's best out of Twitter.

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[Sir David Gray]

Thats my point, "free speech" isn't really what it sounds like

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Free speech, for me, is having the freedom to express your opinion as long as what you say does not directly threaten the safety of another individual or groups of people.

[KeithTheHibby]

The woman is an antagonising ********. I’m not convinced she actually believes in most of what she says. She won’t be missed.

[neil7908]

Free speech, for me, is having the freedom to express your opinion as long as what you say does not directly threaten the safety of another individual or groups of people.

Referring to your earlier point, why would supporting ISIS be illegal then? They are directly hurting others but saying "ISIS are the best thing since sliced bread" does not directly threaten anyone.

[Sir David Gray]

Referring to your earlier point, why would supporting ISIS be illegal then? They are directly hurting others but saying "ISIS are the best thing since sliced bread" does not directly threaten anyone.

It would be if it was in direct reference to an attack they had just been responsible for etc and it was a retweet and a share of it or something along those lines.

[CapitalGreen]

Free speech, for me, is having the freedom to express your opinion as long as what you say does not directly threaten the safety of another individual or groups of people.

She still has that freedom, she just no longer has twitter as a platform to publish those opinions.

[Sir David Gray]

She still has that freedom, she just no longer has twitter as a platform to publish those opinions.

There's plenty of people on Twitter who post offensive, objectionable content and nothing is done about it. I know I've occasionally directly reported some tweets I've seen that I have considered to be highly offensive and they haven't been taken down and the account is still free to post content.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere about what constitutes a banning offence and then that line should be applied consistently.

[RyeSloan]

There's plenty of people on Twitter who post offensive, objectionable content and nothing is done about it. I know I've occasionally directly reported some tweets I've seen that I have considered to be highly offensive and they haven't been taken down and the account is still free to post content.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere about what constitutes a banning offence and then that line should be applied consistently.

The problem is you can’t get that perfect line as comments can always be subjective.

It would be great if someone could draw that line, everyone agree to it and then it was obvious anytime someone stepped over it but that’s just not possible.

Also it might be a bit of a ‘who cares’ is a no mark makes an offensive comment on Twitter...it won’t really go very far or do very much. Bit of a difference when they have a million followers.

[The Modfather]

Troll gets banned, barely even thread worthy IMO.

I can’t help but think of this whenever she’s mentioned https://youtu.be/oVRlYcPIacE

[Future17]

It's Twitter's decision to make. If people object strongly, they can stop using Twitter.

Someone banned from Twitter is free to publish their views somewhere they haven't been deemed to have violated the terms of use.

[danhibees1875]

She seems like she's filled with hatred and I'm sure she must be to some extent in order to say half the things she does, but I also think a lot of it is an act. It keeps her relevant because people are talking about her.

[G B Young]

Troll gets banned, barely even thread worthy IMO.

I can’t help but think of this whenever she’s mentioned https://youtu.be/oVRlYcPIacE

Is it even news worthy? I didn't actually know who she was until I checked her out and vaguely recalled her from the Apprentice.

Mind you, I think Twitter itself should be banned so I guess I'm a bit out of touch with its 'celebrity' users :greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

Yet more of the publicity she craves, she will be loving it.

[Smartie]

Yet more of the publicity she craves, she will be loving it.

To be honest, I think losing the ability to spout on twitter will feel to her like she’s lost one of her arms.

[hibsbollah]

To be honest, I think losing the ability to spout on twitter will feel to her like she’s lost one of her arms.

She might get some inner peace. She might become a better person.

[RyeSloan]

She might get some inner peace. She might become a better person.

One can but hope!

But anything that means less of the current Hopkins bestowed upon the world can only be a good thing really...

[Hibbyradge]

She might get some inner peace. She might become a better person.

lol

[Hibbyradge]

Thoughts and prayers

[Colr]

Reported that Katie Hopkins has been banned for life from Twitter.
I'm delighted but a lot of folk are arguing that the far left are trying to stifle free speech.

She was a person full of hate, I think she actually may be suffering from some mental health ailment as she was so unhappy.
In the last week she's been ripping in to BLM & Marcus Rashford in a venomous way, I understand that controversy generates clicks and keeps her "current" but she offered nothing. She just brought folk down.
Horrible, spiteful little person!

She has free speech but there are consequences for what you do with that freedom.

[grunt]

She has free speech but there are consequences for what you do with that freedom.Saw this on Twitter, and although it's plainly American, I thought it was useful.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea5JoH3WAAEZv2z?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Beefster]

Saw this on Twitter, and although it's plainly American, I thought it was useful.

Lifted from www.xkcd.com. I’d recommend that website to anyone who likes comics strips and science/stats/tech. The guy’s books are very good too fwiw.

[grunt]

Lifted from www.xkcd.com. I’d recommend that website to anyone who likes comics strips and science/stats/tech. The guy’s books are very good too fwiw.

Thanks.

[Jones28]

I read this earlier. I personally have no time for a lot of her views but I do think that, except when you're making direct threats to incite violence and endanger life, restricting someone's right to free speech is a dangerous road to go down and, in a twisted way, it might actually make those who agree with her even more extreme.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

She refers to human beings desperately try to escape conflict as cockroaches and suggested using gunships, she’s got previous for inciting violence. She’s absolutely vile and crossed the line so many times that I can’t believe this hasn’t happened sooner.

[Keith_M]

Can I just point out that most countries, including the UK, do not actually have Freedom Of Speech written into law.

Most people seem to be unaware that the Freedom Of Speech concept they're referring to is actually The First Amendment of the US Constitution, and does not apply to citizens of every country.

In actual fact, in most open and democratic countries, there are limits as to what is considered acceptable.


There is, however, a concept of Freedom of Expression...

"In 1998, the United Kingdom incorporated the European Convention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_(1999%E2%80%932000)), and the guarantee of freedom of expression it contains in Article 10, into its domestic law under the Human Rights Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Act_1998).

However, there is a broad sweep of exceptions including threatening, abusive or insulting words or behavior intending or likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment,_alarm_or_distress) or cause a breach of the peace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breach_of_the_peace) (which has been used to prohibit racist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism) speech targeted at individuals)...." (plus there's a lot more exceptions specified in the article)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#United_Kingdom