Next season's League Cup set to be scrapped?

[G B Young]

Doncaster says smaller clubs unlikely to be able to afford to play it behind closed doors:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-doncaster-admits-betfred-cup-22064193

[04Sauzee]

59 years in a row

[chippy]

59 years in a row

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

[The 90+2]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

How are the clubs with plastic pitches going to afford to dig up their pitches and replace them with grass, employ grounds men to work on them and then people will complain when games are called off.

[greenpaper55]

I see the Peterhead boss wants league 1 and 2 scrapped next season if fans are unable to attend ! Seems a bit extreme but i can see why he would suggest it as teams down there could mothball themselves for a season. He said they only have 4 players right now and i assume that's part time contracts so instead of signing more players and having to pay them and no fans at the game it makes sense to shut things down.

[Hibee_Dave]

Scrap the LC in England and Scotland and replace it next year with a ‘Thank you NHS’ cross border competition. Lower league teams might be able to sell more tickets if it’s a ‘foreign’ team rather than the usual? It would also bring some relevance and interest to a competition that in both countries is just a bit of an unnecessary headache.

[danhibees1875]

Scrap the LC in England and Scotland and replace it next year with a ‘Thank you NHS’ cross border competition. Lower league teams might be able to sell more tickets if it’s a ‘foreign’ team rather than the usual? It would also bring some relevance and interest to a competition that in both countries is just a bit of an unnecessary headache.

I like that idea. :agree:

Even if they just made it optional so only teams who felt it would be viable entered.

[The_Exile]

......and seed it, make the top seeds all at home, guarantee the smaller clubs a big away day with more money than they could generate in a normal cup tie.

[Waxy]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

Your Kidding?

[Waxy]

Scrap the LC in England and Scotland and replace it next year with a ‘Thank you NHS’ cross border competition. Lower league teams might be able to sell more tickets if it’s a ‘foreign’ team rather than the usual? It would also bring some relevance and interest to a competition that in both countries is just a bit of an unnecessary headache.

Like it.

[SquashedFrogg]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

So a closed set of pro leagues? Sounds dull.

[mjhibby]

I see the Peterhead boss wants league 1 and 2 scrapped next season if fans are unable to attend ! Seems a bit extreme but i can see why he would suggest it as teams down there could mothball themselves for a season. He said they only have 4 players right now and i assume that's part time contracts so instead of signing more players and having to pay them and no fans at the game it makes sense to shut things down.

Unless the govt funds the shutdown of football then they might as well shut down leagues 1 and 2. All this nonsense from hertz has sidetracked the chilling reality of the crisis the game faces. Very easy to say football can be shut down for months and months but it will not survive without a bailout. Not scaremongering just the way it is.

[mjhibby]

I’m sure they could play the league cup with a straight knockout competition. If the lower leagues are not back playing by october then there will be massive issue for them. The quicker everybdy concerned realises the earlier we can somehow navigate our way through it. Just constantly making statements won’t help anybody.

[G B Young]

Scrap the LC in England and Scotland and replace it next year with a ‘Thank you NHS’ cross border competition. Lower league teams might be able to sell more tickets if it’s a ‘foreign’ team rather than the usual? It would also bring some relevance and interest to a competition that in both countries is just a bit of an unnecessary headache.

I've long been in favour of more cross-border matches but in the midst of a pandemic where we're all being urged to travel as little as possible there's no way something like would be introduced even when we eventually get to a stage where some fans are allowed into games.

[Waxy]

Play it as a straight knockout in the second half of the season.
Have a feeling we’ll be playing into June next season.

[ScottB]

Play it as a straight knockout in the second half of the season.
Have a feeling we’ll be playing into June next season.

Doubtful if the Euros goes ahead. More likely next season gets cut short too.

[Brightside]

It’s been a pointless tournament for years. I’d much rather we put a wee UK tournament together.

[Ozyhibby]

So a closed set of pro leagues? Sounds dull.

It’s not. It happens in lots of other sports and it’s anything but dull.


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[Ozyhibby]

It’s been a pointless tournament for years. I’d much rather we put a wee UK tournament together.

There is zero appetite in England for that.


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[James Stephen]

It’s been a pointless tournament for years. I’d much rather we put a wee UK tournament together.

Never understood this argument.

Football is about winning trophies, and this is 1 of only 2 trophies available to us (realistically).

[Ozyhibby]

If the worst predictions on the damage from CV19 come about then it’s likely that we will end up in some sort of cross border league in order to save what clubs remain. Whether that is with England or further afield, I don’t know.


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[Pagan Hibernia]

It’s been a pointless tournament for years. I’d much rather we put a wee UK tournament together.

Nonsense. It’s a trophy we have a chance of winning. Why would anyone give that up?

[Waxy]

If the worst predictions on the damage from CV19 come about then it’s likely that we will end up in some sort of cross border league in order to save what clubs remain. Whether that is with England or further afield, I don’t know.


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Best case scenario is we could be back playing in front of crowds buy Late summer/autumn. Guess there’s no point in guessing yet.

[chippy]

Nonsense. It’s a trophy we have a chance of winning. Why would anyone give that up?

Just have it for the full time clubs with enough players- one off games won’t take long

[davhibby]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

Hello Ann.

[ancient hibee]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

Yep this is definitely the time to make things more difficult.

[JammyDoidger]

Doncaster says smaller clubs unlikely to be able to afford to play it behind closed doors:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-doncaster-admits-betfred-cup-22064193

smaller clubs don't win it anyway, just put us and Celtic in the final:rolleyes:

[inglisavhibs]

Unless the govt funds the shutdown of football then they might as well shut down leagues 1 and 2. All this nonsense from hertz has sidetracked the chilling reality of the crisis the game faces. Very easy to say football can be shut down for months and months but it will not survive without a bailout. Not scaremongering just the way it is.
Maxwell saying football in Scotland likely come August. Pretty sure Peterhead and others could get 500 fans in to their ground safely, much easier than it is for Hibs and other bigger clubs. If the number of virus cases continues to drop in Scotland, a lot of business’s including football will be re-started. The alternative is a much bigger problem with unemployment, mental health issues etc.

[whiskyhibby]

Scrap the LC in England and Scotland and replace it next year with a ‘Thank you NHS’ cross border competition. Lower league teams might be able to sell more tickets if it’s a ‘foreign’ team rather than the usual? It would also bring some relevance and interest to a competition that in both countries is just a bit of an unnecessary headache.


I like the sound of that

[Greencore]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors
You're talking too much sense, will never happen.

[blackpoolhibs]

Just have it for the full time clubs with enough players- one off games won’t take long

I'd just have it for Premiership clubs, that's you and your team knackered.

[04Sauzee]

Just have it for the full time clubs with enough players- one off games won’t take long
59 in a row

[Waxy]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

How about no promotion next season to protect the current top 12?
Plus the hearts could look after all the championship clubs with Benny Factor, Foh and the other 400,000 numbskulls?

[jacomo]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors


Bin Hearts, you mean?

:faf:

[Joe6-2]

I'd just have it for Premiership clubs, that's you and your team knackered.

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[Waxy]

Chippy is Ann Budge.

[The 90+2]

Chippy is Ann Budge.

That would be crispy, surely?

[jacomo]

Chippy is Ann Budge.


There will be chips!

[Waxy]

It all adds up guys.
Chips will be served.Reconstruct at any cost, stuff the wee teams etc.

[Centre Hawf]

Time for radical change. Make the spfl only for full time clubs, no plastic pitches . Minimum no of full time players( no loanees counted). Stadia criteria. Structure the leagues relative to no of full time clubs. Have the league cup for the full time clubs behind closed doors

I do think change is needed but I certainly wouldn't gate keep the league behind a financial criteria such as being able to afford Full-Time status. Team like Alloa etc have had great seasons in the Championship and provided us with tough fixtures in our spell there and it would be a shame to just get rid of them from the set up and would just limit the already fairly limited pool of teams we currently have, or worse cause those clubs to go bust with their attempts to meet the criteria just to enjoy their success of being promoted and keep teams who finish bottom in a division safe just due to their financial status.

[monktonharp]

Like it.bolt

[tamig]

I do think change is needed but I certainly wouldn't gate keep the league behind a financial criteria such as being able to afford Full-Time status. Team like Alloa etc have had great seasons in the Championship and provided us with tough fixtures in our spell there and it would be a shame to just get rid of them from the set up and would just limit the already fairly limited pool of teams we currently have, or worse cause those clubs to go bust with their attempts to meet the criteria just to enjoy their success of being promoted and keep teams who finish bottom in a division safe just due to their financial status.

Its a ridiculous suggestion. As you say, why should clubs suffer because they choose to operate part-time? The whole thing reeks of hertzness.

[HendoDelivered]

I preferred the old league cup set up. Think the changed it the season after we lost to County in the final? I think that set up was a bit better.