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Mick O'Rourke
19-05-2020, 06:30 PM
I was cleaning my laptop and came across this footage of our club .circa 1950.

Admit to having a tear in my eye thinking on what i missed ,not seeing these wonderful footballers in their prime.

I was not born till a couple of years after this film was made.

Be nice if anyone can contribute any such vintage footage from days gone by.

https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/8528

Footage from National Library of Scotland


"When will we see their likes again"

Joe6-2
19-05-2020, 06:32 PM
Sadly the answer to that is never!

Sammy7nil
19-05-2020, 06:49 PM
Thanks for posting that is a great watch :aok:

The nick of their training gear :greengrin

No wonder the pitches were poor all those kids and the grounds man in a suit :greengrin

CMurdoch
19-05-2020, 09:46 PM
I was cleaning my laptop and came across this footage of our club .circa 1950.

Admit to having a tear in my eye thinking on what i missed ,not seeing these wonderful footballers in their prime.

I was not born till a couple of years after this film was made.

Be nice if anyone can contribute any such vintage footage from days gone by.

https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/8528

Footage from National Library of Scotland


"When will we see their likes again"

Thanks Mick. Showed the film to my son.

Lancs Harp
19-05-2020, 10:06 PM
A great watch thanks for posting.

I thought Rangers looked very pretty in their fetching white skirts warming up.:greengrin

BILLYHIBS
19-05-2020, 10:19 PM
Brilliant!

:thumbsup:

tomf
20-05-2020, 01:05 AM
Thanks for posting that. It was great to watch. I was born in 1950 but didn't attend my first game until I was about 11 or 12 years old when my dad took my brother and I to see Hibs play Rangers. We stood on the slope and it was some experience. A huge crowd and a great atmosphere. GGTTH

One Day
20-05-2020, 07:35 AM
Brilliant. I wonder what became of the "stars for the future"

Keith_M
20-05-2020, 07:43 AM
I was cleaning my laptop and came across this footage of our club .circa 1950.

Admit to having a tear in my eye thinking on what i missed ,not seeing these wonderful footballers in their prime.

I was not born till a couple of years after this film was made.

Be nice if anyone can contribute any such vintage footage from days gone by.

https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/8528

Footage from National Library of Scotland


"When will we see their likes again"



Seen that before and it's fantastic.

That's the era my Dad grew up in and I think he imagined as a kid that Hibs would always be challenging for the title.

Newry Hibs
20-05-2020, 09:57 AM
Is there meant to be sound on it?

Carheenlea
20-05-2020, 11:42 AM
Some great footage.

Had Hibs won that match at Ibrox we would have won the league, but the game finished 0-0 and the title went to Rangers. Attendance was a post war Scottish record of 101,000.

https://i.postimg.cc/PJTpR8MK/A6-C263-D3-E920-4-A9-B-AE89-B3-C44-ABF233-E.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/7YPJ10hZ/7-B4-B6634-CA3-D-4-FFD-BA6-C-383-A91316-E6-A.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

brog
20-05-2020, 05:00 PM
Given his recent passing it was nice to see John Ogilvie in the film. Thanks Mick

ancient hibee
20-05-2020, 05:28 PM
I hadn't seen that film for a year or two.Towards the end of the 1950s and into the 60s Bill Heeps who was a sports reporter with the Dispatch and then the News used to tour clubs with a collection of films and I first saw it at a BB ex members night.
Obviously the top of the main terracing was completed in the next couple of years.The one man band in Albion Road was still going strong a good few years later.
The clip of the StMirren match showed what attracted so many to Hibs.A couple of goals for Willie Ormond-one bursting on to the ball in the box ,the other a header-it's what you do if you play on the left wing.
There's some good old sports films on the National Library site-thanks for posting.

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SquashedFrogg
20-05-2020, 05:30 PM
Wish my grandad Jimmy Hutcheon was alive. He would've loved this.

madabouthibs
20-05-2020, 06:16 PM
There's a good documentary on YouTube about the Famous Five, interviews with all the lads, except Ormond cause he had already passed away, Smith could still control a ball even at 70-odds as could Reilly! Some great footage from the 50's too.
https://youtu.be/YsO53XIkFCY

BILLYHIBS
20-05-2020, 07:01 PM
There's a good documentary on YouTube about the Famous Five, interviews with all the lads, except Ormond cause he had already passed away, Smith could still control a ball even at 70-odds as could Reilly! Some great footage from the 50's too.
https://youtu.be/YsO53XIkFCY

:agree:

Shows footage of infamous Cup tie versus Motherwell at Tiny

Well worth a watch during lockdown

chrisski33
21-05-2020, 01:25 AM
Great find! Amazing to see how many folk went to game all those years ago!

EI255
21-05-2020, 08:08 AM
Absolutely outstanding footage. Great to see in colour too. That Hibs team was simply sublime. Thanks for posting this. Brilliant!

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Skol
21-05-2020, 08:48 AM
I couldn’t quite reconcile what appeared to be Arthur’s seat behind the east terracing rather than the Dunbar end.

Mick O'Rourke
21-05-2020, 08:53 AM
I couldn’t quite reconcile what appeared to be Arthur’s seat behind the east terracing rather than the Dunbar end.

That caught me out first time i watched the film
It is the development of what became known as "Shaw's Heights"
Extension to main terracing
Its the earth/rubble to build it that you see.
You can see during the film a couple of people on it
Likely polis to stop people climbing it.

Mick O'Rourke
21-05-2020, 08:58 AM
Is there meant to be sound on it?

No
Its a silent film

Mick O'Rourke
21-05-2020, 09:08 AM
The journey at the start of the film passing Donaldson's School right through the city centre is the route i would have made many times on the 26 from Clerry

Note the Harp above the club name on the brick entrance wall at the main stand.
Note one of the directors has a maroon tie on !!
So many small things stick out or make you think when watching the film

Oh, nearly forgot ........
Who in their wisdom at the City Chambers thought it a good idea to scrap the trams in the 1950s

Lastly (or maybe not )
On the naming stands debate.
Hugh Shaw is worthy of serious consideration
Our most successful manager

Mick O'Rourke
21-05-2020, 09:10 AM
Given his recent passing it was nice to see John Ogilvie in the film. Thanks Mick


I thought so too, when i saw him.
The team during those years was more than "just" the Famous Five

pollution
21-05-2020, 11:18 AM
The Famous Five never won the Scottish Cup ! .....

BILLYHIBS
21-05-2020, 11:33 AM
The Famous Five never won the Scottish Cup ! .....

..........and now we’ve got a younger team ah dinnae want tae brag ah only want tae say the Scottish Cup is in the bag! :greengrin






:cup:

EI255
21-05-2020, 03:37 PM
The players back then weren't half better looking than today's players! [emoji16] Love some of the hair styles, very slick!

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Kato
21-05-2020, 04:10 PM
Some great footage.

Had Hibs won that match at Ibrox we would have won the league, but the game finished 0-0 and the title went to Rangers. Attendance was a post war Scottish record of 101,000.

https://i.postimg.cc/PJTpR8MK/A6-C263-D3-E920-4-A9-B-AE89-B3-C44-ABF233-E.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/7YPJ10hZ/7-B4-B6634-CA3-D-4-FFD-BA6-C-383-A91316-E6-A.jpg (https://postimages.org/)My Old Boy went through for but couldn't get in. Spent the match in the car park with thousands of others listening on the radio.

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ancient hibee
21-05-2020, 06:26 PM
My Old Boy went through for but couldn't get in. Spent the match in the car park with thousands of others listening on the radio.

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And in those days it would only be the second half(or less)on the radio.

Kato
21-05-2020, 06:29 PM
And in those days it would only be the second half(or less)on the radio.Wow. My Dad said anyone with a radio had the car doors open. Commentary came over pretty loud.

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ancient hibee
21-05-2020, 06:32 PM
Wow. My Dad said anyone with a radio had the car doors open. Commentary came over pretty loud.

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Certainly in the 50s there were only two games broadcast in full-the Scotland/England game and the English Cup Final.Don’t think the Scottish Cup Final was.

IberianHibernian
21-05-2020, 09:04 PM
Great images . Back then and even up to about 1970 at least team seemed to be the same every week . When did reserve league start ? In early 70s we had a reserve team and 3rd team playing in East of Scotland League . And reserves played at 3 pm on a Saturday so a lot of season ticketholders ( we only had about 1000 I think as only old centre stand ) used to go to reserve matches instead of travelling to see first team .

ACLeith
21-05-2020, 09:10 PM
Certainly in the 50s there were only two games broadcast in full-the Scotland/England game and the English Cup Final.Don’t think the Scottish Cup Final was.

I am sure the second half of the 58 final was broadcast. I jumped about when we equalised only to have my first Hampden disappointment. Still, today more than made up fir all of that

Killiehibbie
21-05-2020, 09:20 PM
Certainly in the 50s there were only two games broadcast in full-the Scotland/England game and the English Cup Final.Don’t think the Scottish Cup Final was.

Maybe Rangers v Hearts in the 70's first final live on tv

scoopyboy
21-05-2020, 09:34 PM
Maybe Rangers v Hearts in the 70's first final live on tv

Celtic v Clyde in 1955 was the first Scottish Cup Final to be shown live on TV

Mick O'Rourke
21-05-2020, 09:45 PM
Maybe Rangers v Hearts in the 70's first final live on tv



The Scottish Cup Final at Hampden Park in 1955.
The match, between Glasgow football clubs Celtic and Clyde, was the first Scottish Cup final to be televised live and was played in front of a "disappointing" crowd of more than 106,000.
The score was 1-1, and Clyde won the replay 1-0.
.......................................


First match was live on STV
Don't know about the replay

https://www.theglasgowstory.com/images/TGSE01250_m.jpg
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Hibs End at Hampden in the above mentioned final


ma faither, who hailed from New Lanark and a Celtic supporter would likely have been on that terracing with obligatory cairy oot:cheers:

That's if he didnae spraff a brief for the main stand

Clyde won the Cup the following season by the same score
Guess who they beat ;-(




Text and photo......
courtesy of the Burrell Collection,Glasgow.


Edit
Scoopyboy
I must have been writing my post when you responded

Killiehibbie
21-05-2020, 09:53 PM
Celtic v Clyde in 1955 was the first Scottish Cup Final to be shown live on TV

Only a few years out. I remember being told some fact about Rangers v Hearts final but it obviously wasn't that.

Mick O'Rourke
21-05-2020, 10:04 PM
Only a few years out. I remember being told some fact about Rangers v Hearts final but it obviously wasn't that.
BBC Sportscene started in 1975

But i think The old rangers v hertz final was the following year

scoopyboy
21-05-2020, 10:11 PM
Only a few years out. I remember being told some fact about Rangers v Hearts final but it obviously wasn't that.

The best fact about that final was that Hearts were 1-0 down before the scheduled start time of 3pm.

It was torrential rain so the ref started the game at 2.58pm and Hearts lost a goal in the first minute

bigwheel
22-05-2020, 03:34 AM
The best fact about that final was that Hearts were 1-0 down before the scheduled start time of 3pm.

It was torrential rain so the ref started the game at 2.58pm and Hearts lost a goal in the first minute

Didn’t the same thing happen when Hearts won the cup v Rangers...a penalty in the first minute or so, before 3pm after an early kick off ??


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BILLYHIBS
22-05-2020, 04:37 AM
I attended the 1975 final with my Hearts mates loads o fighting outside the ground before and after the game which was par for the course at the time :confused:

scoopyboy
22-05-2020, 07:48 AM
Didn’t the same thing happen when Hearts won the cup v Rangers...a penalty in the first minute or so, before 3pm after an early kick off ??


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Might have been, try to wipe that day from my memory to be honest.

Worse than our final against them in my opinion.

Peevemor
22-05-2020, 07:51 AM
Might have been, try to wipe that day from my memory to be honest.

Worse than our final against them in my opinion.

Really?

While I didn't celebrate it, I was grudgingly happy for my Jambos mates TBH.

scoopyboy
22-05-2020, 07:57 AM
Really?

While I didn't celebrate it, I was grudgingly happy for my Jambos mates TBH.

Yes, without doubt.

I had thought prior to that day I could get through my life without witnessing Hearts winning anything.

In 2012 we were well beat and I accepted that, might have been different if we had dominated the game and been beaten by a dodgy late penalty. Scunnered at the time but I was over it by the Monday.

Mick O'Rourke
22-05-2020, 08:47 AM
Some more Hibernian oldies on this link from British Pathe



https://www.britishpathe.com/workspaces/show/b0b8fb43f023561959333220b41bd7e8/HIBS/full

BILLYHIBS
22-05-2020, 11:56 AM
Some more Hibernian oldies on this link from British Pathe



https://www.britishpathe.com/workspaces/show/b0b8fb43f023561959333220b41bd7e8/HIBS/full

Second image down looks like Raith Rovers v HIBS 1952


https://youtu.be/mbtVLF8MsY8

bringbackbenny
22-05-2020, 12:20 PM
Some more Hibernian oldies on this link from British Pathe

https://www.britishpathe.com/workspaces/show/b0b8fb43f023561959333220b41bd7e8/HIBS/full

these are brilliant, I'm sure my Dad was at the Rangers SC semi replay will ask him

and it's not just recently we get dodgy ref decisions against us :rolleyes:

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 12:30 PM
Certainly in the 50s there were only two games broadcast in full-the Scotland/England game and the English Cup Final.Don’t think the Scottish Cup Final was.

I was recently looking for footage of the 1970 Aberdeen v Celtic Scottish Cup Final and was amazed to find only very poor and short footage. I was a young kid at the time but remember watching lavish live coverage of the FA Cup Final from 68' onwards.

Steven79
22-05-2020, 12:54 PM
I was recently looking for footage of the 1970 Aberdeen v Celtic Scottish Cup Final and was amazed to find only very poor and short footage. I was a young kid at the time but remember watching lavish live coverage of the FA Cup Final from 68' onwards.Why would Scottish Football get the same treatment as English...

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Mick O'Rourke
22-05-2020, 01:53 PM
Second image down looks like Raith Rovers v HIBS 1952


https://youtu.be/mbtVLF8MsY8

Billy
Correct

The link below is same games but details dates/teams
Sorry the list is not all wins

https://www.britishpathe.com/workspaces/show/b0b8fb43f023561959333220b41bd7e8/HIBS

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 02:01 PM
The first Scottish wartime match radio commentary was a New Year’s Day Edinburgh derby which finished up with the scoreline: Hibernian 5, Hearts 6. Petrie! Check oot the ground name below.


Association Football: Hibernian v. Heart of Midlothian (http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/75929ed364b3402384dc62f24493b25c), Monday 1 January 1940, 15:00–15:40
Hibernian v. Heart of Midlothian on the second half of the Scottish Regional League match, by R. E. Kingsley ('Rex' of The Sunday Mail), from the Hibernian Park, Edinburgh.

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 02:03 PM
Hibernian hold the accolade of being the first professional Scottish football team to appear on television in Scotland:


Floodlit Professional Football: Arsenal v. Hibernian (http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/5ad5f39728b64c95960e4ae4884a6e8d), Wednesday 22 October 1952, 20:15–21:10
A charity match at the Arsenal Stadium, Highbury, in aid of the National Playing Fields Association and of the Central Council of Physical Recreation (Sports Development Fund). Commentary on the second half by Kenneth Wolstenholme and Peter Thoms (http://wiki.scotlandonair.com/index.php?title=Peter_Thomson)on

ancient hibee
22-05-2020, 02:07 PM
Hibernian hold the accolade of being the first professional Scottish football team to appear on television in Scotland:


Floodlit Professional Football: Arsenal v. Hibernian (http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/5ad5f39728b64c95960e4ae4884a6e8d), Wednesday 22 October 1952, 20:15–21:10
A charity match at the Arsenal Stadium, Highbury, in aid of the National Playing Fields Association and of the Central Council of Physical Recreation (Sports Development Fund). Commentary on the second half by Kenneth Wolstenholme and Peter Thoms (http://wiki.scotlandonair.com/index.php?title=Peter_Thomson)on



And got slaughtered:greengrin

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 02:11 PM
Why would Scottish Football get the same treatment as English...

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Before the World Cup in 1966 technology restricted broadcasting and a lot of programmes were only shown in London. Technological advantages must have exploded after that and i remember vividly watching the Olympics in 68' and the World Cup in 70' both fired in from Mexico. It was akin to the moon landing in sporting terms .........but no much Scottish football on TV until later.

ancient hibee
22-05-2020, 02:13 PM
The first Scottish wartime match radio commentary was a New Year’s Day Edinburgh derby which finished up with the scoreline: Hibernian 5, Hearts 6. Petrie! Check oot the ground name below.


Association Football: Hibernian v. Heart of Midlothian (http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/75929ed364b3402384dc62f24493b25c), Monday 1 January 1940, 15:00–15:40
Hibernian v. Heart of Midlothian on the second half of the Scottish Regional League match, by R. E. Kingsley ('Rex' of The Sunday Mail), from the Hibernian Park, Edinburgh.
​



Rex got around.He started in the Sunday Mail a Player of the Year prize which of couurse the SFA and the Scottish League refused to recognise in any way.And the first winner was?

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 02:14 PM
And got slaughtered:greengrin

:greengrin didn't want to say. Almost as bad a beating as that maroon team took in 73'

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 02:16 PM
Rex got around.He started in the Sunday Mail a Player of the Year prize which of couurse the SFA and the Scottish League refused to recognise in any way.And the first winner was?

Gordon Smith in 1951

Why was it not awarded in 1963?

ancient hibee
22-05-2020, 02:38 PM
Gordon Smith in 1951

Why was it not awarded in 1963?


I wonder if Rex had retired by then and the Mail had second thoughts?

Pagan Hibernia
22-05-2020, 02:45 PM
I was cleaning my laptop and came across this footage of our club .circa 1950.

Admit to having a tear in my eye thinking on what i missed ,not seeing these wonderful footballers in their prime.

I was not born till a couple of years after this film was made.

Be nice if anyone can contribute any such vintage footage from days gone by.

https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/8528

Footage from National Library of Scotland


"When will we see their likes again"

Fabulous. I’m so proud to be a hibs fan. hibernian was made for me and I was made for Hibernian

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 02:46 PM
And got slaughtered:greengrin

As you will see from the game programme link below the Famous Five played in this horsing. What went wrong?
https://www.footballprogrammes.net/arsenal-fc-c-97_103_147/arsenal-v-hibernian-hibs-1952-charity-match-p-49509.html

Pagan Hibernia
22-05-2020, 02:51 PM
The thing I’ll never understand about the famous five team is that even when they were dominating Scottish football they still struggled in the derby against Hearts.

I just can’t get my head around the inferiority complex we seem to have in the derby. The only time we’ve ever properly got the better of them is in the turnbulls tornadoes era.

ancient hibee
22-05-2020, 02:58 PM
As you will see from the game programme link below the Famous Five played in this horsing. What went wrong?
https://www.footballprogrammes.net/arsenal-fc-c-97_103_147/arsenal-v-hibernian-hibs-1952-charity-match-p-49509.html

Rumour had it at the time that they'd gone down the night before and had been well entertained.Prince Philip was at the game as well.

brog
22-05-2020, 03:11 PM
As you will see from the game programme link below the Famous Five played in this horsing. What went wrong?
https://www.footballprogrammes.net/arsenal-fc-c-97_103_147/arsenal-v-hibernian-hibs-1952-charity-match-p-49509.html

I asked Lawrie Reilly that question at a London Hibs Burns Night. Lawrie said, if they'd all done the same as me (scored) we'd have won 11-7! Typical pugnacious Lawrie! He said it was just one of those nights. I suppose it's no different to us scoring 7 vs Man U in Gordon's testimonial game. In competitive games at that time we fared well against English teams, beating Newcastle & Spurs in the Coronation Cup & scoring 5 against Spurs in the Floodlit League.

CMurdoch
22-05-2020, 03:57 PM
I asked Lawrie Reilly that question at a London Hibs Burns Night. Lawrie said, if they'd all done the same as me (scored) we'd have won 11-7! Typical pugnacious Lawrie! He said it was just one of those nights. I suppose it's no different to us scoring 7 vs Man U in Gordon's testimonial game. In competitive games at that time we fared well against English teams, beating Newcastle & Spurs in the Coronation Cup & scoring 5 against Spurs in the Floodlit League.

That's a good slant on it from Lawrie :greengrin

CMurdoch
23-05-2020, 11:52 PM
I wonder if Rex had retired by then and the Mail had second thoughts?

It was awarded the following year, 1964, which was the last year before the league stepped in,

Carheenlea
24-05-2020, 12:04 AM
Some more Hibernian oldies on this link from British Pathe



https://www.britishpathe.com/workspaces/show/b0b8fb43f023561959333220b41bd7e8/HIBS/full

Watched these earlier this evening - wonderful footage. Thanks for posting :aok: