Summer 2020-21 transfer thread

[GibbytheHibby2]

I think there is a player at the game. In Hibs gear. Patrick McPartlin put a pic on twitter....and ive no idea who he is. Maybe its Stephen McGinn.....

He cannae be a football player. There are no tattoos on show.

[erin go bragh]

Different position?

Stephen Mcginn is a midfielder, Jackson is a defender.

In a normal world I’d be questioning the signing of someone like Stephen Mcginn, the way things are, bringing in a steady SPFL player that knows the league and can be relied on as a squad player and likely to be pretty cheap makes complete sense to me.

Clearly wouldn’t be classed as a particularly exciting signing though.
A bit like Paul McGinn and he’s turned out no bad . Need to trust the gaffer.

[sean04]

Stephen McGinn is a very neat and tidy footballer. He knows the league and if cheap would be a good addition to the squad. St Mirren fans liked him.
Also was there captain and player of the year

[Duke of Currie]

I think we need another tackling type midfielder in soon, we look light in this area on numbers

Hope there are going to be a few bodies brought in. With Jackson gone , had a look at the squad and we can put out a decent first 11 but dont fancy the subs much , particularly a few of the old guard who a regularly injured. Once we get a few injuries and suspensions , and we have a congested calendar , its going to be a tough season. Get some cheap squad fillers and we can forget about pushing for third with this squad. Mid table at best.

[Dmas]

Hope there are going to be a few bodies brought in. With Jackson gone , had a look at the squad and we can put out a decent first 11 but dont fancy the subs much , particularly a few of the old guard who a regularly injured. Once we get a few injuries and suspensions , and we have a congested calendar , its going to be a tough season. Get some cheap squad fillers and we can forget about pushing for third with this squad. Mid table at best.

Where’s jackson gone?

[HoboHarry]

Where’s jackson gone?
Lincoln City.

[Dmas]

Lincoln City.

Cheers totally missed that

[Speedway]

We got a fee for him too.

[HendoDelivered]

We got a fee for him too.

Nice one. Hopefully put that towards Doc/Mcrorie.

[badabing67]

Nice one. Hopefully put that towards Doc/Mcrorie.

Or the outcome of the golf night

[HendoDelivered]

Or the outcome of the golf night

Winner gets the fee? :greengrin

[Hibs90]

Different position?

Stephen Mcginn is a midfielder, Jackson is a defender.

In a normal world I’d be questioning the signing of someone like Stephen Mcginn, the way things are, bringing in a steady SPFL player that knows the league and can be relied on as a squad player and likely to be pretty cheap makes complete sense to me.

Clearly wouldn’t be classed as a particularly exciting signing though.

Sorry your right, too many McGinns :greengrin

Even then, still a downgrade on Docherty, Omeonga IMO.

[Aldo]

We got a fee for him too.

Sell on clause too by the sounds of it!


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[JammyDoidger]

We are now light in midfield and defence. McCrorie would make perfect sense.

[B.H.F.C]

We are now light in midfield and defence. McCrorie would make perfect sense.

With Jackson being away that’s who my money is on us signing.

[Souter96Mac]

We are now light in midfield and defence. McCrorie would make perfect sense.

Defo. Makes sense, and hopefully it would be on a permanent deal. Can play in Midfield and in defence in a couple positions. Hopefully Ross let Ron pump him at golf the other day to help provide some extra £££ to get some more players in 😂

[Winston Ingram]

Thats a downgrade on Jackson big time

Tbf if the McGinn’s we’ve signed so far are anything to go by, I’d have no complaints if we signed his Ma

[Brightside]

Why are we suddenly light in midfield. Has someone else left?

[Billy Whizz]

Why are we suddenly light in midfield. Has someone else left?

If we play 2 in midfield, 1 gets injured, then we’re light
Obviously doesn’t fancy Hallberg or Allan as 1 of the 2

[Alex Trager]

Why are we suddenly light in midfield. Has someone else left?

It’s not all of a sudden. It’s been the case since we lost 4 midfielders (that I can think of atm) and replaced them with one!

We defo need more in midfield

[Vault Boy]

Why are we suddenly light in midfield. Has someone else left?

I don't think it's sudden. We lost Omeonga, Docherty, Slivka and Whittaker in that position, only bringing in one replacement. We still need another and have done since the start IMO.

[truehibernian]

It’s not all of a sudden. It’s been the case since we lost 4 midfielders (that I can think of atm) and replaced them with one!

We defo need more in midfield

Drey Wright, Mallan, and Boyle fit into outside right/left and central midfield. We'll add a defensive midfielder as cover for Gogic. The fact Stephen McGinn is still here and travelling with the squad tells it's own story too.

[MWHIBBIES]

Really hope were not signing Stephen McGinn. Championship player.

[Souter96Mac]

Really hope were not signing Stephen McGinn. Championship player.

It certainly doesn't sound too inspiring. But I trust Ross' judgement of a player, especially if he's been training with us for several weeks.

[MWHIBBIES]

It certainly doesn't sound too inspiring. But I trust Ross' judgement of a player, especially if he's been training with us for several weeks.

Na, this guy is actually a championship player. Do not want. Whittaker twice the player and we released him.

[truehibernian]

Really hope were not signing Stephen McGinn. Championship player.

So far our signings from Dunfermline (mid Championship), Hamilton Accies (lower Premiership) and St Johnstone have made a significant contribution to seeing us top of the league and us looking more balanced :aok: I'll go with Jack's judgement as it's working well :agree:

Think we'll add a striker too.

[JohnM1875]

Tbf if the McGinn’s we’ve signed so far are anything to go by, I’d have no complaints if we signed his Ma

😂 I'm with you!

[bingo70]

Really hope were not signing Stephen McGinn. Championship player.

Will just be a squad filler.

Suppose Gogic got a second yellow or got injured tonight we don’t really have anyone else that can come in and do the same role, possibly Hallberg but I’m not convinced he’s the man to be seeing out games or offering protection to the back four.

[Billy Whizz]

Really hope were not signing Stephen McGinn. Championship player.

I’ll let the manager who’s top of the League tonight decide that
Think he’s entitled to make a signing it 2

[04Sauzee]

I’ll let the manager who’s top of the League tonight decide that
Think he’s entitled to make a signing it 2

Absolutely, I fully trust JR

[Speedway]

Mccrorie to replace Jackson and McGinn as back up for Gogic makes sense.

[S4uzee]

I’ll let the manager who’s top of the League tonight decide that
Think he’s entitled to make a signing it 2

Quite a silly way of looking at it really. Surely you can’t think he’s the standard we should be going for. If it is then why not keep Slivka or Whittaker

[Northernhibee]

Quite a silly way of looking at it really. Surely you can’t think he’s the standard we should be going for. If it is then why not keep Slivka or Whittaker

Did anyone really expect Paul McGinn to be as good as he has been?

If Stephen McGinn comes in to be backup then he'll command a much lower wage than Slivka or Whittaker. It gives us options at DM whilst allowing the little cash we have to be used for another player or contract extention for key players.

[mal]

I thought the story was that Stephen McGinn was training with us as a courtesy without any prospect of signing? What with Paul being a current player and John being a legend that seems fairly reasonable. If he's Championship bound it might be a while before he gets signed by anyone.

[MWHIBBIES]

Did anyone really expect Paul McGinn to be as good as he has been?

If Stephen McGinn comes in to be backup then he'll command a much lower wage than Slivka or Whittaker. It gives us options at DM whilst allowing the little cash we have to be used for another player or contract extention for key players.

You have no idea of the wage Whittaker, Slivka or Stephen Mcginn were/would earn.

Paul Mcginn is younger, better and could actually get in st mirrens team.

If his brother's weren't good players this would not be looked on at all favourably. We can and should be doing better than this.

[Unseen work]

Surely we won’t sign Stephen McGinn, he’s been training with us from the off and surely if we had any intention it would have been done nearer the start.

McCrorie will sign on loan and cover right back/centre back and centre mid
Another pacey attacking player capable of playing wide or up top will come in

Tonight at 1-0 looking at the bench the options were very limited.

[JimBHibees]

Na, this guy is actually a championship player. Do not want. Whittaker twice the player and we released him.

Good hardened pro who is a leader thought he was decent midfield player. Likely to be more of a squad player however think he can contribute knows the management team so why not.

[04Sauzee]

Mcrorie, Docherty, Omeonga and a forward and we're good to go 😁😁

[MWHIBBIES]

Surely we won’t sign Stephen McGinn, he’s been training with us from the off and surely if we had any intention it would have been done nearer the start.

McCrorie will sign on loan and cover right back/centre back and centre mid
Another pacey attacking player capable of playing wide or up top will come in

Tonight at 1-0 looking at the bench the options were very limited.

You think? Gullan, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Lewis, Hallberg with Wright and Mallan injured. That's an excellent bench imo. Maybe one forward/wide player as you say but our squad is actually very solid, better than Aberdeen and Motherwell easily.

[JimBHibees]

You have no idea of the wage Whittaker, Slivka or Stephen Mcginn were/would earn.

Paul Mcginn is younger, better and could actually get in st mirrens team.

If his brother's weren't good players this would not be looked on at all favourably. We can and should be doing better than this.

Stephen McGinn could undoubtedly get in St Mirren team but has been hampered by injuries.

[bingo70]

Quite a silly way of looking at it really. Surely you can’t think he’s the standard we should be going for. If it is then why not keep Slivka or Whittaker

Was thinking about that earlier.

I don’t think either of them could really be relied on. Whittaker could have his excellent games but he also had it in his locker to be pretty *****.

Slivka was always just meh, never really brilliant but more regularly anonymous.

If I was a manager I don’t think i could feel I could really rely on them. He’ll know Stephen Mcginn better than we do and if he thinks he can get more out of Mcginn than those two for presumably less money then I think it makes complete sense.

[truehibernian]

Surely we won’t sign Stephen McGinn, he’s been training with us from the off and surely if we had any intention it would have been done nearer the start.

McCrorie will sign on loan and cover right back/centre back and centre mid
Another pacey attacking player capable of playing wide or up top will come in

Tonight at 1-0 looking at the bench the options were very limited.

Bear in mind we are without Wright and Mallan. The bench was fine in my opinion. Gullan has exactly the qualities you mention too.

[sean04]

A lot of fans said the same about Paul Mcginn, why we signing him? Well because he’s a solid dependable right back and exactly what we need. Stephen McGinn hasn’t even signed and folk are writing him off. Jack Ross knows the player. Knows all his qualities and his character. If jack thinks he would be a good addition then that’s good enough for me

[Fritz]

Na, this guy is actually a championship player. Do not want. Whittaker twice the player and we released him.

Well to be fair you are one of the few posters who actually uses facts to back up their opinion so who am I to argue...

[MWHIBBIES]

Good hardened pro who is a leader thought he was decent midfield player. Likely to be more of a squad player however think he can contribute knows the management team so why not.
I'm rarely outspoken on potential signings before I've seen them for us but there are so many red flags on this one.

[Kato]

Quite a silly way of looking at it really. Surely you can’t think he’s the standard we should be going for. If it is then why not keep Slivka or Whittaker

You think letting the manager decide is silly?

[MWHIBBIES]

Well to be fair you are one of the few posters who actually uses facts to back up their opinion so who am I to argue...

Stay on topic please :aok:

[JimBHibees]

I'm rarely outspoken on potential signings before I've seen them for us but there are so many red flags on this one.

Even if doesn't work out unlikely to cost much. Having someone in midfield who can come on or cover and be aggressive is never a bad thing.

[Fritz]

Stay on topic please :aok:

Completely on topic, in direct response to your ‘opinion’. I know this is your favourite answer when you’ve lost an argument though. Well played.

[HendoDelivered]

Mccrorie to replace Jackson and McGinn as back up for Gogic makes sense.

Mccrorie is more of CDM and see’s himself as one.

[MWHIBBIES]

A lot of fans said the same about Paul Mcginn, why we signing him? Well because he’s a solid dependable right back and exactly what we need. Stephen McGinn hasn’t even signed and folk are writing him off. Jack Ross knows the player. Knows all his qualities and his character. If jack thinks he would be a good addition then that’s good enough for me

Who said it about Paul? He was first choice for a premier League side. Stephen is a free agent who couldn't get a game. Large difference.

Yogi knew Paddy Cregg and Daryl Duffy. Lennon knew Stokes, Calderwood knew Junior Agogo. I'll be honest, it's not enough for me.

[Vault Boy]

**** it. Sign all the McGinns. Every last one of them. If John has a wee dog named Sparky McGinn, get him in too. Complete the collection.

In all seriousness, the two brothers we've had brought us incredible work ethic, a winning attitude and real consistency. Stephen is an experienced pro with a good attitude who has had plenty of good games for fairly poor St Mirren teams. I'd see absolutely no issue in bringing him in as cover.

[Andy74]

I'm rarely outspoken on potential signings before I've seen them for us but there are so many red flags on this one.

So many red flags??

Like?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I'm rarely outspoken on potential signings before I've seen them for us but there are so many red flags on this one.

Wow.

[MWHIBBIES]

Even if doesn't work out unlikely to cost much. Having someone in midfield who can come on or cover and be aggressive is never a bad thing.
I don't think he is particularly aggressive. He is a deep play maker type.

Completely on topic, in direct response to your ‘opinion’. I know this is your favourite answer when you’ve lost an argument though. Well played.

Nothing to do with losing an argument. You are taking personal shots at me. That isn't the topic of the thread. Please stop it or I will report your posts. :aok:

Facts are the guy couldn't get a game for 11th place st mirren when he was their captain.

[MWHIBBIES]

So many red flags??

Like?

Being released by St mirren. Not getting a game for them. Never been particularly impressive when I've seen him. Not really linked with any clubs. Ross already saying he wasn't planning to sign him.

[sean04]

Who said it about Paul? He was first choice for a premier League side. Stephen is a free agent who couldn't get a game. Large difference.

Yogi knew Paddy Cregg and Daryl Duffy. Lennon knew Stokes, Calderwood knew Junior Agogo. I'll be honest, it's not enough for me.

Sorry to break the news to you fella, we ain’t got money the buy players of other teams. Just trust the manager . Really using stokes as an example of a failed signing?

[J-C]

Completely on topic, in direct response to your ‘opinion’. I know this is your favourite answer when you’ve lost an argument though. Well played.

😂😂👍

[MWHIBBIES]

Sorry to break the news to you fella, we ain’t got money the buy players of other teams. Just trust the manager . Really using stokes as an example of a failed signing?

I didn't say buy players though. Gogic was a free agent.

Yes, Stokes 3rd spell was definitely a failure.

[J-C]

Being released by St mirren. Not getting a game for them. Never been particularly impressive when I've seen him. Not really linked with any clubs. Ross already saying he wasn't planning to sign him.

93 games in 3 seasons isn't bad going for someone who wasn't getting a game.

[bigwheel]

93 games in 3 seasons isn't bad going for someone who wasn't getting a game.

Yep, also got over 300 first team games under his belt....I’ll trust Ross and his coaches views over some of the opinions on here...was always viewed as a talent, and until last year was their first pick. If we sign him, I look forward to seeing him.


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[Fritz]

I don't think he is particularly aggressive. He is a deep play maker type.


Nothing to do with losing an argument. You are taking personal shots at me. That isn't the topic of the thread. Please stop it or I will report your posts. :aok:

Facts are the guy couldn't get a game for 11th place st mirren when he was their captain.

Personal shots? Not sure what you mean. Merely quoted you from the other week. Patronising thumbs up smiley.

[MWHIBBIES]

93 games in 3 seasons isn't bad going for someone who wasn't getting a game.

How many last season?

[Unseen work]

You think? Gullan, Allan, Gray, McGregor, Lewis, Hallberg with Wright and Mallan injured. That's an excellent bench imo. Maybe one forward/wide player as you say but our squad is actually very solid, better than Aberdeen and Motherwell easily.

My issue is over the course of the season we will very rarely have a full strength team, we will often have one or two missing with injuries.

Bar Allan tonight and maybe at a push Gullan, I don’t see anyone on that bench that I’d be confident coming on to change a game in our favour or that the opposition would fear. Gray, McGregor, Stevenson and Hallberg are all good options for shoring up a game though. Don’t rate Murray and have yet to see him influence a game.

I also think we’re only an injury or two away to key personnel, I.e Gogic Or Porteous to really suffering and reverting to last season.

This is a massive season for us and we’ve started brilliantly, I’d hate to see us miss out on 3rd due to squad depth/quality.

Tbh id say Aberdeen have a stronger squad on paper and squad depth albeit they’ve spent a fortune over the years. I really like what Ross is doing with our squad hence why I want us to allow him to further strengthen it

[J-C]

How many last season?

Injuries, you'll find it hard to get many appearances if you're injured.

[Rumble de Thump]

Are there people who genuinely don't understand there's a global economic crisis going on?

[MWHIBBIES]

Personal shots? Not sure what you mean. Merely quoted you from the other week. Patronising thumbs up smiley.

Yes. You'll actually notice me not only managing to keep on topic here but also sticking to facts.

I hope that if we do sign SM he proves an excellent signing. No one should doubt that. I support Hibs and Jack Ross. I really just don't see this as a good signing. Hallberg and Mallan are significantly better options.

[Heisenberg]

I didn't say buy players though. Gogic was a free agent.

Yes, Stokes 3rd spell was definitely a failure.

Stokes had a 1 in 2 goalscoring ratio during his third spell. Hardly a failure. He was clearly not meeting standards off the park though.

[The Modfather]

And another thread is dominated by the usual suspect arguing with any and everyone...

[J-C]

And another thread is dominated by the usual suspect arguing with any and everyone...

Keep it on topic 😂

[Unseen work]

23862

Anyone know who the young blonde boy is? Assuming a development player but don’t recognise him.

[MWHIBBIES]

And another thread is dominated by the usual suspect arguing with any and everyone...
People are discussing the merits of a potential signing. Only one person has taken it off topic with personal comments and it isn't me. There is no arguing going on.

Stokes had a 1 in 2 goalscoring ratio during his third spell. Hardly a failure. He was clearly not meeting standards off the park though.
I dunno, I think paying someone off 6 months after signing is a pretty good sign it was a failure. I actually liked stokes in his 3rd spell. Was a period where he was the only one creating and scoring for us but it really didn't work out.

Injuries, you'll find it hard to get many appearances if you're injured.

Yeah, seems he had 2 long spells out with knee injuries. Don't really see that as better than not getting picked right enough. I struggle to see why St mirren would have released him if he had something to offer.

[Fritz]

Yes. You'll actually notice me not only managing to keep on topic here but also sticking to facts.

I hope that if we do sign SM he proves an excellent signing. No one should doubt that. I support Hibs and Jack Ross. I really just don't see this as a good signing. Hallberg and Mallan are significantly better options.

See the second half of your post? That’s fair enough. It’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. But that’s all it is. Your opinion. Not facts. I think you need to keep that in mind sometimes.

[Vault Boy]

23862

Anyone know who the young blonde boy is? Assuming a development player but don’t recognise him.

He's the youth keeper, can't mind his name right now! Think he's only 15/16.

Edit: Murray Johnson is his name.

[04Sauzee]

23862

Anyone know who the young blonde boy is? Assuming a development player but don’t recognise him.

Thought it may be the young keeper, the boy who was training with the first team only about 16. Coukd be well of the mark though

[Smartie]

I'm rarely outspoken on potential signings before I've seen them for us but there are so many red flags on this one.

Whilst it’s a signing I would also have some doubts about, do you not think those “red flags” might be less significant following an extended period training with the club?

Jack Ross has had a chance to scrutinise him in the company of our current first team squad, so if he signs then a man I trust to be very competent has based a decision on what he’s seen over a long period and with his own eyes.

“So many red flags” might apply to McGinn if he were signed out of the blue a few minutes before the transfer window closed to fill a gaping hole in our squad. That’s not really the case here. If we sign him, it’s because he’s impressed.

[MWHIBBIES]

See the second half of your post? That’s fair enough. It’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. But that’s all it is. Your opinion. Not facts. I think you need to keep that in mind sometimes.

The things that are facts I present as facts. It's not my opinion that st mirren released him.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

The things that are facts I present as facts. It's not my opinion that st mirren released him.

Only fact is that he’s not even signed yet and you’ve already written him off.

Classy

[MWHIBBIES]

Whilst it’s a signing I would also have some doubts about, do you not think those “red flags” might be less significant following an extended period training with the club?

Jack Ross has had a chance to scrutinise him in the company of our current first team squad, so if he signs then a man I trust to be very competent has based a decision on what he’s seen over a long period and with his own eyes.

“So many red flags” might apply to McGinn if he were signed out of the blue a few minutes before the transfer window closed to fill a gaping hole in our squad. That’s not really the case here. If we sign him, it’s because he’s impressed.

Maybe that is true, difference way of looking at it. Wouldn't he have impressed st mirren on and off the park enough to win a deal, though? Is a 31 year old coming off the back of a rough season of injuries a risk we should be taking right now? Gogic was signed after about 2 weeks of training with us, why would Mcginn still not be signed after 2 months?

I think these are questions worth asking. I wonder what the reaction to this would be if his brother's weren't such good players or we hadn't won 3 games running. Seriously, on paper, in my opinion, this would be a poor move.

[MWHIBBIES]

Only fact is that he’s not even signed yet and you’ve already written him off.

Classy

That's not the only fact though, is it?

I've not written him off. I really just don't think he's a good player and we could do better. If he signs he would get my fullest support, like everyone else.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

That's not the only fact though, is it?

I've not written him off. I really just don't think he's a good player and we could do better. If he signs he would get my fullest support, like everyone else.

You’ve posted about 12 times in the last two pages that he’s not good enough. If that’s not writing him off I’m not sure what is.

JR and the coaching staff will have seen him throughout pre season to be able to make a qualified decision. Good enough for me, considering if he does come in it will be on a low wage and as back up.

[MWHIBBIES]

You’ve posted about 12 times in the last two pages that he’s not good enough. If that’s not writing him off I’m not sure what is.

JR and the coaching staff will have seen him throughout pre season to be able to make a qualified decision. Good enough for me, considering if he does come in it will be on a low wage and as back up.

Thinking someone isn't good enough isn't writing them off imo. I don't think certain members of the current squad are good enough but I very much hope they can show I'm wrong and with the right role and manager they definitely could do that.

Stephen Mcginn could do that too. Doesn't mean I should be tugging one off at the potential of signing him. I've never seen much from him to suggest he could contribute much for us.
Never really understood the signing as a back up thing. Should be looking at guys who are coming to take a spot, not fill one.

[Smartie]

Maybe that is true, difference way of looking at it. Wouldn't he have impressed st mirren on and off the park enough to win a deal, though? Is a 31 year old coming off the back of a rough season of injuries a risk we should be taking right now? Gogic was signed after about 2 weeks of training with us, why would Mcginn still not be signed after 2 months?

I think these are questions worth asking. I wonder what the reaction to this would be if his brother's weren't such good players or we hadn't won 3 games running. Seriously, on paper, in my opinion, this would be a poor move.

I agree that they’re questions worth asking.

St Mirren will have their own unique situation to deal with - maybe he wasn’t what they needed at that time and they felt they could use that wage better strengthening elsewhere? Sometimes players can be surplus to requirements at a smaller club but needed at a bigger one, just because of differing circumstances.

Re the time training with the squad - maybe Ross shared your/ our concerns and wanted to watch him for longer to make sure it wasn’t just a flukey couple of impressive weeks at the start ie he had more to do to win Ross over - just because of the very reasons you have highlighted.

[1875godsgift]

The things that are facts I present as facts. It's not my opinion that st mirren released him.


I suppose you could say, in the opinion of the St. Mirren manager, he was surplus to requirements so they released him - that's a fact.

If Hibs sign him, then in the opinion of Jack Ross, he can do a job for Hibs - that's a fact :thumbsup:

So at the end of the day, it's all about opinions (and facts).

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Thinking someone isn't good enough isn't writing them off imo. I don't think certain members of the current squad are good enough but I very much hope they can show I'm wrong and with the right role and manager they definitely could do that.

Stephen Mcginn could do that too. Doesn't mean I should be tugging one off at the potential of signing him. I've never seen much from him to suggest he could contribute much for us.
Never really understood the signing as a back up thing. Should be looking at guys who are coming to take a spot, not fill one.

Absolutely no one is at danger of tugging one off over his signing. Infact the only one on their high horse about it is yourself and he’s not even signed yet. Jeez

[J-C]

People are discussing the merits of a potential signing. Only one person has taken it off topic with personal comments and it isn't me. There is no arguing going on.

I dunno, I think paying someone off 6 months after signing is a pretty good sign it was a failure. I actually liked stokes in his 3rd spell. Was a period where he was the only one creating and scoring for us but it really didn't work out.


Yeah, seems he had 2 long spells out with knee injuries. Don't really see that as better than not getting picked right enough. I struggle to see why St mirren would have released him if he had something to offer.

His contract ran it's course, not quite released, possibly due to his injuries last season. Also they have a new manager who has his own views on what players he'll want.

[04Sauzee]

So who have we lost so far. You need to correct me if I have missed anyone

Bogdan (loan)
Naismith (loan)
Jackson (fee received)
Slivka
Docherty (loan)
Whittaker
Omeonga (loan)
McNulty (loan)
Kamberi (fee received)

We have signed

Nisbet (fee paid)
Wright
Gogic

We will probably be getting rid of James

[MWHIBBIES]

I agree that they’re questions worth asking.

St Mirren will have their own unique situation to deal with - maybe he wasn’t what they needed at that time and they felt they could use that wage better strengthening elsewhere? Sometimes players can be surplus to requirements at a smaller club but needed at a bigger one, just because of differing circumstances.

Re the time training with the squad - maybe Ross shared your/ our concerns and wanted to watch him for longer to make sure it wasn’t just a flukey couple of impressive weeks at the start ie he had more to do to win Ross over - just because of the very reasons you have highlighted.

You could certainly be right about that. Still concerns me that I don't think he is a particular good player and no one else seems to have any interest in him despite him being free for months now. It's not as if he was really tearing it up for st mirren in this league at any point. 3 years ago he couldn't get a game for Wycombe and had to drop to then bottom of the championship st mirren.

That all being said, I think this year's Scottish premier League is as poor as it has ever been. He may be able to offer something but I doubt he'd get much game time if any. Hallberg, Mallan, Gogic, Allan and Newall will all be well ahead of him

[percy veer]

You could certainly be right about that. Still concerns me that I don't think he is a particular good player and no one else seems to have any interest in him despite him being free for months now. It's not as if he was really tearing it up for st mirren in this league at any point. 3 years ago he couldn't get a game for Wycombe and had to drop to then bottom of the championship st mirren.

That all being said, I think this year's Scottish premier League is as poor as it has ever been. He may be able to offer something but I doubt he'd get much game time if any. Hallberg, Mallan, Gogic, Allan and Newall will all be well ahead of him


give the laddie a break, If he signs he will be squad player need these to fill in for injuries and suspensions, Hibs cant afford the dosh on wages for expensive players to sit on the bench

[MWHIBBIES]

give the laddie a break, If he signs he will be squad player need these to fill in for injuries and suspensions, Hibs cant afford the dosh on wages for expensive players to sit on the bench

I doubt he is reading the forum mate. If you are Stephen I'm sorry.

Hibs had 4/5 guys on the bench tonight who will be expensive.

The young guys should be options of we have 4/5 players out injured, not a 31 year old.

[HendoDelivered]

Hopefully we sign someone not even mentioned yet, I prefer ones like that! Just unexpected/out the blue.

[percy veer]

I doubt he is reading the forum mate. If you are Stephen I'm sorry.

Hibs had 4/5 guys on the bench tonight who will be expensive.

The young guys should be options of we have 4/5 players out injured, not a 31 year old.

some of them will go, better with a mix of youth and experience .

regards J Mcginn

[04Sauzee]

Hibs twitter 30 mins or so ago

[MWHIBBIES]

Hibs twitter 30 mins or so ago

**** sake, what a waste of time :greengrin

[Vault Boy]

Hibs twitter 30 mins or so ago

That seems pretty clear then! Still strange that he was at the game, but I suppose he's part of the biosecure group, so maybe he just wanted to take a game in and support the guys.

[Ozyhibby]

We are light in midfield. Too many of the players we have there can’t tackle at all. Hopefully we get McCrorie. Having him and Gogic in midfield will help us to start dominating in there a bit more.


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[04Sauzee]

Wonder if we will get another body in before the Motherwell game

[MWHIBBIES]

We are light in midfield. Too many of the players we have there can’t tackle at all. Hopefully we get McCrorie. Having him and Gogic in midfield will help us to start dominating in there a bit more.


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Naturally I'd rather get a permanent signing in who can actually play against every team but if it's mccrorie so be it.

I still don't think it's another kicker we need. It's someone who can keep the ball and move it around.

[Ozyhibby]

Naturally I'd rather get a permanent signing in who can actually play against every team but if it's mccrorie so be it.

I still don't think it's another kicker we need. It's someone who can keep the ball and move it around.

It’s not about kicking people, it’s about making sure other teams can’t waltz through our midfield like they did last season without us putting some sort of contact on them.


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[MWHIBBIES]

It’s not about kicking people, it’s about making sure other teams can’t waltz through our midfield like they did last season without us putting some sort of contact on them.


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Oh, I definitely agree. The issue I have is you can't really play 2 guys like that. One gogic and another, more dynamic player like Mcgeouch or Fyvie who can not only tackle but move it around, keep it etc.

Keeping the ball better would reduce the pressure on the back 4 much more than another defensive midfielder.

[badabing67]

Mcrorie, Docherty, Omeonga and a forward and we're good to go 😁😁

McCorie, Omeonga, Docherty and Jordan Jones and I agree 1000%

[bingo70]

Hibs twitter 30 mins or so ago

Still doesn’t make sense to me.

Why would he be with the match day squad in full Hibs training gear if it was just a case of him training with us?

If anything it would hamper his chances of getting a deal else where if it looks like he’s going to be signing for us.

[mal]

Still doesn’t make sense to me.

Why would he be with the match day squad in full Hibs training gear if it was just a case of him training with us?

If anything it would hamper his chances of getting a deal else where if it looks like he’s going to be signing for us.

Maybe he fancies getting a bid from Hearts.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Still doesn’t make sense to me.

Why would he be with the match day squad in full Hibs training gear if it was just a case of him training with us?

If anything it would hamper his chances of getting a deal else where if it looks like he’s going to be signing for us.

Mind when Garry O'Connor was training in full celtic gear whilst training with them to get his fitness up?

[bigwheel]

Still doesn’t make sense to me.

Why would he be with the match day squad in full Hibs training gear if it was just a case of him training with us?

If anything it would hamper his chances of getting a deal else where if it looks like he’s going to be signing for us.

I think only us fans are analysing this in any detail....I
expect clubs would be chatting to his agent about availability rather than drawing conclusions based on what tracksuit he is wearing...


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[bingo70]

Mind when Garry O'Connor was training in full celtic gear whilst training with them to get his fitness up?

Nope.

Was he with the other players in the match day squad then as well?

If you throw in the fact it’s meant to be a closed doors environment with only essential attendees only it just doesn’t make sense to me.

May have answered my own question there, if he wasn’t in the Hibs training kit with the other players maybe wouldn’t have got access to the ground?

[Currie Hibee]

If the McCrorie rumours are true then I think it would make a great signing. He provides defensive midfield cover / options but can also play centre back which would give us the 4th centre half after Jackson leaving.

[AlbertK86]

Who said it about Paul? He was first choice for a premier League side. Stephen is a free agent who couldn't get a game. Large difference.

Yogi knew Paddy Cregg and Daryl Duffy. Lennon knew Stokes, Calderwood knew Junior Agogo. I'll be honest, it's not enough for me.

Stephen was the St Mirren captain and only never played when injured. Sure he played south of border for a while and remember him nullifying SJM at ER a couple of seasons ago. Will be a good signing as cover if it happens


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[GreenCastle]

I’ve got a feeling we will go for McCrorie as he can play CM and CB.

Annoying Omeonga/ Docherty aren’t coming back as I think they would thrive with Gogic sitting in front.

We really aren’t far from being a decent team and a couple decent signings and a smaller tighter squad could see us finish top 4.

[Souter96Mac]

I’ve got a feeling we will go for McCrorie as he can play CM and CB.

Annoying Omeonga/ Docherty aren’t coming back as I think they would thrive with Gogic sitting in front.

We really aren’t far from being a decent team and a couple decent signings and a smaller tighter squad could see us finish top 2.

I've updated that for you 😁, but no in all seriousness I agree. Bare in mind we've now lost 9 players and only brought in 3. Hopefully if we can get another 2/3 in, then we'll be laughing

[Nicho87]

Think we’re still good 2-3 players from consistently being a good team. We were pretty woeful last night and a better team would have taken a goal of us or Shankland. Still terrific we grounded out an ugly win something we’ve never been good at. Would love to see another defender and midfielder. Mcrorie would fill both positions. James still likely to move on so another wage freed.

[Dmas]

Think we’re still good 2-3 players from consistently being a good team. We were pretty woeful last night and a better team would have taken a goal of us or Shankland. Still terrific we grounded out an ugly win something we’ve never been good at. Would love to see another defender and midfielder. Mcrorie would fill both positions. James still likely to move on so another wage freed.

I don’t think we where woeful it wasn’t the best performance but 2nd half we where the better team, although Utd had a decent amount of the ball I can’t remember rocky making a save? Don’t know how Shankland would have changed the fact they created no clear cut chances?

I do think your right we need a couple players in def and mid for me and maybe someone like Jordan jones If we can’t keep Boyle

[GreenCastle]

I've updated that for you 😁, but no in all seriousness I agree. Bare in mind we've now lost 9 players and only brought in 3. Hopefully if we can get another 2/3 in, then we'll be laughing

I think the squad last year was too big but seems better balanced now.

But if we lose Boyle he will need replaced - We need 3 wingers minimum to mix it up.

We have lost quite a few faces and say Gogic or a CB are injured - we need players to step in.

What happened to Josh Campbell?

[Nicho87]

I don’t think we where woeful it wasn’t the best performance but 2nd half we where the better team, although Utd had a decent amount of the ball I can’t remember rocky making a save? Don’t know how Shankland would have changed the fact they created no clear cut chances?

I do think your right we need a couple players in def and mid for me and maybe someone like Jordan jones If we can’t keep Boyle

Maybe woeful is harsh your right. But we weren’t our free flowing best. But delighted we kept a clean sheet. Doing that means with our forwards one half chance like last night bags the 3 points. Happy days.

[Greenworld]

Did anyone really expect Paul McGinn to be as good as he has been?

If Stephen McGinn comes in to be backup then he'll command a much lower wage than Slivka or Whittaker. It gives us options at DM whilst allowing the little cash we have to be used for another player or contract extention for key players.Dont start this talking sense stuff agree with every word

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[Greenworld]

You have no idea of the wage Whittaker, Slivka or Stephen Mcginn were/would earn.

Paul Mcginn is younger, better and could actually get in st mirrens team.

If his brother's weren't good players this would not be looked on at all favourably. We can and should be doing better than this.They are 29 and 31 not much difference. Paul was not fancied at st mirren we got him as cover and he has grabbed the position.
Whittaker is 36 now , ive no idea why Stephen is still at the club but if its waiting to sign we get very experienced player rated better than paul most of his career , that tuned out ok

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[Greenworld]

Stephen was the St Mirren captain and only never played when injured. Sure he played south of border for a while and remember him nullifying SJM at ER a couple of seasons ago. Will be a good signing as cover if it happens


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[H18 SFR]

I don't think Stephen McGinn is good enough for a team with aspirations of finishing third. I actually expected him to have been signed up by Hamilton, Dundee, ICT or the likes.

[SHODAN]

Paul was St Mirren's first choice RB when we signed him. Stephen is a free agent after being released by St Mirren. Big difference.

[1875STEVE]

I think we will bring 2 in, probably loans.

Especially now Jackson is away and James looks like he's following

Think Mackie might go (loan?) as well.

[Brightside]

Think we’re still good 2-3 players from consistently being a good team. We were pretty woeful last night and a better team would have taken a goal of us or Shankland. Still terrific we grounded out an ugly win something we’ve never been good at. Would love to see another defender and midfielder. Mcrorie would fill both positions. James still likely to move on so another wage freed.

How many saves did Rocky have to make? Utd did a great job of stoping us playing but werent able to trouble us very often. So I'm not sure how that can be woeful. A defender will come in for sure with Jackson leaving, but our current back 4 is doing nothing wrong to suggest it needs more added.

[GreenCastle]

Think we’re still good 2-3 players from consistently being a good team. We were pretty woeful last night and a better team would have taken a goal of us or Shankland. Still terrific we grounded out an ugly win something we’ve never been good at. Would love to see another defender and midfielder. Mcrorie would fill both positions. James still likely to move on so another wage freed.

Woeful is harsh. Not free flowing but Utd weren’t exactly up to much either.

We also had players missing so it’s and buts.

James needs to move on soon - been here so long picking up a wage and not doing anything !!

I actually wonder whether we could see Lewis Stevenson play CM - he can tackle / pass.

The Boyle situation is going to drag on to near end of window I imagine - ideally needs to declare if he’s staying or just weighing up options - he kind of looks like he’s playing but his mind is elsewhere and was being wary of his legs / any challenges coming in.

[CapitalGreen]

Paul was St Mirren's first choice RB when we signed him. Stephen is a free agent after being released by St Mirren. Big difference.

One is a starter for us the other would be an inexpensive, experienced back up.

[MWHIBBIES]

One is a starter for us the other would be an inexpensive, experienced back up.

Inexpensive and experienced are traits you can find anywhere.

[mentalhibee]

Stephen Mcginn is decent but I can’t see him signing as we have similar types of midfielders that can’t get in the team.

[Since452]

Stephen Mcginn is decent but I can’t see him signing as we have similar types of midfielders that can’t get in the team.

I agree. Unsurprisingly another McGinn brother with a brilliant attitude but I think he'd struggle to break into the team.

[GloryGlory]

Inexpensive and experienced are traits you can find anywhere.

:agree: I think a lot of players with these attributes will come on the market in the next couple of months, due to the continuing impact of covid on clubs' financial position.

[The 90+2]

The difference between paul and stephen. I do not see that stephen would be a bad signing if hibs are considering it .https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/b78d5c66887a793ab7d78c9cf1555ff5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200812/0c0c3eab46b686041519027da35fd9d7.jpg

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He wouldn’t be a good signing though. We need better to build a better squads. Not random journeymen as backups.

[04Sauzee]

He wouldn’t be a good signing though. We need better to build a better squads. Not random journeymen as backups.

Looking at a wiki Paul definitely looks like a random Journeyman

[CapitalGreen]

Inexpensive and experienced are traits you can find anywhere.

Yes you can. Not sure the relevance of that to me simply pointing out that 2 different players would have 2 different roles within the team though.

[The 90+2]

Looking at a wiki Paul definitely looks like a random Journeyman

He does also, yes.

[Andy74]

Were Hearts after Hemmings?

Gone to Burton.

[04Sauzee]

Were Hearts after Hemmings?

Gone to Burton.

According to many a Jambo fan,he will now have gone back to being sh*te 🙂

[04Sauzee]

Were Hearts after Hemmings?

Gone to Burton.

True to form even although this is where they got Boyce from.






Hectormasson Hectormasson

Posted 22 minutes ago
31 minutes ago, Morgaro Gomis said:
Hemmings signs for Burton.



Doubt we even looked at him but that’s another that was discussed on here that we definitely will not be signing.

If hemming signs for burton' he wouldn't have been good enough for hearts , im sure we have to set our standards a bit higher than burton targets ? Even though we're in a lower league set up, we've still got a couple to bring in imo, lets just wait and see there's a while to go yet ' if ever our season gets a go ahead

[Since452]

Were Hearts after Hemmings?

Gone to Burton.

He was one of the players their fans were excited about coming. Oh dear

[Since452]

True to form even although this is where they got Boyce from.






Hectormasson Hectormasson

Posted 22 minutes ago
31 minutes ago, Morgaro Gomis said:
Hemmings signs for Burton.



Doubt we even looked at him but that’s another that was discussed on here that we definitely will not be signing.

If hemming signs for burton' he wouldn't have been good enough for hearts , im sure we have to set our standards a bit higher than burton targets ? Even though we're in a lower league set up, we've still got a couple to bring in imo, lets just wait and see there's a while to go yet ' if ever our season gets a go ahead

They don't seem to realise they're a Scottish Championship side in the middle of a global pandemic. It's not even close to being like it was the last time they were down there. No derby, no Rangers, no TV, no money, ziltch, nada. They're in a footballing backwater having to compete with the English leagues restarting. They need to get real about the players they'll be signing. It is the worst time to be relegated in the history of Scottish football.

[CallumLaidlaw]

https://t.co/IMfFlvYtfW


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[Since452]

https://t.co/IMfFlvYtfW


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Interesting

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Sorry this isn't about a McGinn.... :wink:

Hibernian make bid to land Rangers midfielder Ross McCrorie (https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/18645517.hibernian-make-bid-land-rangers-midfielder-ross-mccrorie/?ref=twtrec)

Glasgow Evening Times reporting

[we are hibs]

Rangers fans upset at a 200k offer 😂

[Vault Boy]

Rangers fans upset at a 200k offer 😂

They're still absolutely raging about their embarrassing attempt at signing Scott Allan. 🤣

[Since452]

Hand it in Ross

[Unseen work]

Rangers fans upset at a 200k offer 😂

I occasionally go on their forum to see if there’s any rumours of Doc coming back etc and the valuations they expect for players are mental.

Doc, Jones, McCrorie, Stewart, Murphy and all the other players out the picture are worth 1-2 million supposedly

[ElginHibbie]

Rangers fans upset at a 200k offer 😂

You'd think they'd want to help the Hibernian juggernaut stop 10 in a row and give us him on the cheap

[we are hibs]

I occasionally go on their forum to see if there’s any rumours of Doc coming back etc and the valuations they expect for players are mental.

Doc, Jones, McCrorie, Stewart, Murphy and all the other players out the picture are worth 1-2 million supposedly


They think they're getting 10 million for Kamara. Lunatics.

They're still absolutely raging about their embarrassing attempt at signing Scott Allan. 🤣

They dont seem to understand that if we want him, we'll take him. When a club like Hibs come calling you dont turn them down

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I occasionally go on their forum to see if there’s any rumours of Doc coming back etc and the valuations they expect for players are mental.

Doc, Jones, McCrorie, Stewart, Murphy and all the other players out the picture are worth 1-2 million supposedly

That's because they're all deluded

They think that world evolves round them

Remember that True Blue BBC documentary about them training at Murray Park

Every one of them was an arrogant bar steward

[Since452]

Love taking a player from one of our title rivals. Hopefully unsettles them #handitin

[Brightside]

https://t.co/IMfFlvYtfW


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Thats a story created to start a bid.

[Borderhibbie76]

Pages and pages arguing about a player nobody even knows we want to sign (Stephen McGinn). Hibs.net at its finest

[Billy Whizz]

Rangers fans upset at a 200k offer 😂

My neighbour is a Rangers season ticket holder, he rates him, says he’s much better than Docherty

[J-C]

Pages and pages arguing about a player nobody even knows we want to sign (Stephen McGinn). Hibs.net at its finest


The usual culprits.

[Unseen work]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5920346/ross-mccrorie-rangers-exit-hibs-transfer/

The sun reporting it now too.

Would love it to be true, very good player.

[Gaffer1875]

McCorie, McGinn as cover and Simon Murray and that will do me. The latter too wouldn’t break the bank but both do a job if and when required.


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[Smartie]

Looking at a wiki Paul definitely looks like a random Journeyman

Looking at wiki, Paul's very average cv and his hugely impressive recent performances it makes you wonder wtf he's been doing for most of his career?

And, I suppose, how many other diamonds there might be out there?

[Iain G]

Were Hearts after Hemmings?

Gone to Burton.

Have they still got a shop on Princes Street?

[Vault Boy]

Wonder if this means Ron Gordon has committed some funds after his meeting with Jack Ross.

[Smartie]

Wonder if this means Ron Gordon has committed some funds after his meeting with Jack Ross.

Jack Ross strikes me as the kind of worldly wise man who knows the value of things such as how to let your boss beat you at golf and how to make a crap cup of tea.

[Billy Whizz]

Wonder if this means Ron Gordon has committed some funds after his meeting with Jack Ross.

Possibly, but more likely to be a one in one out policy

Did anyone hear Jack’s interview pre match on Sky yesterday
Was asked about Boyle, says we’re talking to him all the time, but understands where he is in his career. Looks like the door isn’t shut yet on Martin staying

[Vault Boy]

Possibly, but more likely to be a one in one out policy

Did anyone hear Jack’s interview pre match on Sky yesterday
Was asked about Boyle, says we’re talking to him all the time, but understands where he is in his career. Looks like the door isn’t shut yet on Martin staying

Fair point. Only reason I mention it is because it would involve us paying yet another transfer fee. If we were sticking with a very tight, one in one out system, you'd imagine we'd just go for a free agent to replace Jackson, I can't imagine we made that much from his sale.

Glad that we're aiming to speculate to accumulate with our transfers, though.

Found that encouraging from Ross RE Boyle. Good to know that we're in talks with him at least.

[Nicho87]

Boyle imo should sign a 2 year deal and the gentleman’s agreement is stay for the season or the winter window at the very least and let us get top dollar for you. As long as a bid is minimum x amount we will give you the option to leave. Considering we missed a year playing time due to previous injuries. Everyone is happy.

[Billy Whizz]

Boyle imo should sign a 2 year deal and the gentleman’s agreement is stay for the season or the winter window at the very least and let us get top dollar for you. As long as a bid is minimum x amount we will give you the option to leave. Considering we missed a year playing time due to previous injuries. Everyone is happy.

Boyle needs to be careful too. Saw him go down early last night, and thought it was another knee injury, and that could leave him in a difficult position

[King Cosell]

Boyle imo should sign a 2 year deal and the gentleman’s agreement is stay for the season or the winter window at the very least and let us get top dollar for you. As long as a bid is minimum x amount we will give you the option to leave. Considering we missed a year playing time due to previous injuries. Everyone is happy.

And a signing-on fee will cover wage increase he's missing out on this season. 200k (money we'll recoup) + wages would mean he'll be on roughly 7k a till next August.

[SHODAN]

Any pals of McCrorie in the squad? Get them to beg their best mate in the papers to come along and play for the Hibs.

[ancient hibee]

Boyle imo should sign a 2 year deal and the gentleman’s agreement is stay for the season or the winter window at the very least and let us get top dollar for you. As long as a bid is minimum x amount we will give you the option to leave. Considering we missed a year playing time due to previous injuries. Everyone is happy.

Boyle will rightly do what is right for him.Hibs will rightly do what is right for them.This means they will agree to differ.

[04Sauzee]

Any pals of McCrorie in the squad? Get them to beg their best mate in the papers to come along and play for the Hibs.

Porteous will most likely have been in Scotland u21 squads with him? Maybe Mallan as well?

[Greencore]

#HanditinRoss

[jonny]

Looking at wiki, Paul's very average cv and his hugely impressive recent performances it makes you wonder wtf he's been doing for most of his career?

And, I suppose, how many other diamonds there might be out there?

It would seem we've uncovered another one in Gogic.
Hamilton midfielder, never played for his country (Cyprus), looks pretty average on paper but since he came in he's been excellent imo

[SouthMoroccoStu]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-and-rangers-open-discussions-over-deal-ross-mccrorie-2940076?fbclid=IwAR10R6whaPYl2wWU52XV-xHKWm-_q4MFIvPUoVAtDRvMuznhXgcB_BTMO3I

"McCrorie has trained all summer with Rangers and has been part of the match-day squads, so would be able to hit the ground running at Hibs. All parties concerned are working towards a positive resolution before Saturday evening’s match between Hibs and Motherwell."

[JimBHibees]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-and-rangers-open-discussions-over-deal-ross-mccrorie-2940076?fbclid=IwAR10R6whaPYl2wWU52XV-xHKWm-_q4MFIvPUoVAtDRvMuznhXgcB_BTMO3I

"McCrorie has trained all summer with Rangers and has been part of the match-day squads, so would be able to hit the ground running at Hibs. All parties concerned are working towards a positive resolution before Saturday evening’s match between Hibs and Motherwell."

Sounds very positive maybe good chance of sorting it quickly.

[Brightside]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-and-rangers-open-discussions-over-deal-ross-mccrorie-2940076?fbclid=IwAR10R6whaPYl2wWU52XV-xHKWm-_q4MFIvPUoVAtDRvMuznhXgcB_BTMO3I

"McCrorie has trained all summer with Rangers and has been part of the match-day squads, so would be able to hit the ground running at Hibs. All parties concerned are working towards a positive resolution before Saturday evening’s match between Hibs and Motherwell."

The Evening News starting to implement a paywall really is a joke.

[JimBHibees]

The Evening News starting to implement a paywall really is a joke.

Yep they should be paying readers instead. :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

The usual culprits.
Weren't you part of it?

Pages and pages arguing about a player nobody even knows we want to sign (Stephen McGinn). Hibs.net at its finest

About 2 pages discussing a player who has been training with us and was spotted with the squad in Hibs gear last night? Hardly that shocking is it?

[Jones28]

The Evening News starting to implement a paywall really is a joke.

I’m surprised they need one, they must make a fortune bending over to the companies who’s adverts ruin every single ****ing article.

[J-C]

Weren't you part of it?


About 2 pages discussing a player who has been training with us and was spotted with the squad in Hibs gear last night? Hardly that shocking is it?


I was correcting your post that McGinn couldn't get a game at St Mirren, I pointed out his game times and injuries, apart from that I have no opinions re Stephen McGinn. One post compared to dozens by yourself and a few others.

[J-C]

I’m surprised they need one, they must make a fortune bending over to the companies who’s adverts ruin every single ****ing article.


Them and the Scotsman, register to read some more crap, I don't think so.

[HoboHarry]

Them and the Scotsman, register to read some more crap, I don't think so.
:agree: Stopped reading the Scotsman online as soon as they started that paywall crap. I wonder how many readers they lost because the paywall thing?

[Since452]

Hearts fans think they should hijack our McCrorie bid. Their delusion and denial is in overdrive right now.

[Dmas]

Weren't you part of it?


About 2 pages discussing a player who has been training with us and was spotted with the squad in Hibs gear last night? Hardly that shocking is it?

Fowk moan when there’s no chat about a hibs rumour and fowk moan when there’s chat about a guy we don’t know hibs want to sign....even though he’s standing in hibs training gear..at a hibs match..

Hibs.net at its finest

[MWHIBBIES]

I was correcting your post that McGinn couldn't get a game at St Mirren, I pointed out his game times and injuries, apart from that I have no opinions re Stephen McGinn. One post compared to dozens by yourself and a few others.

you made 5 posts in that discussion :aok:

[MWHIBBIES]

Fowk moan when there’s no chat about a hibs rumour and fowk moan when there’s chat about a guy we don’t know hibs want to sign....even though he’s standing in hibs training gear..at a hibs match..

Hibs.net at its finest

Yeah. I think people just don't like me. I get told off when I don't talk about rumours and I get told off when I do talk about them. Its strange.

[AlbertK86]

Hearts fans think they should hijack our McCrorie bid. Their delusion and denial is in overdrive right now.

Do the c@&%s never learn ... humiliate them again please Hibs

Any Jambos looking in ... know yer place .... yiz are a lowly championship club mind .... how the f%#€ will that progress anybody’s career [emoji12]


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[Centre Hawf]

I'd like McCrorie in as it has the potential to make us more money going forward or be an asset to the club for a long time with his age and ability. If he came to us he'd be a good option in a few positions which would cover us well for a multitude of injury problems which could be helpful. Stephen McGinn doesn't really excite me that much as we already have the likes of Hallberg on the bench trying to get into the team so not sure he's any better than him?

But at the moment if Ross think having folks he knows around the squad helps then who am I to argue.

[Greenio]

The Evening News starting to implement a paywall really is a joke.

How so? They are trying to survive like most local media are.

[Brightside]

McCrorie coming in would surely mean a move to 4231 for Ross? His best role is 100% as a DM. So someone has to drop out to fit him into the team.

[Vault Boy]

Hearts fans think they should hijack our McCrorie bid. Their delusion and denial is in overdrive right now.

In fairness, they did succeed in taking Nisbet and Wright from under our noses, so I'd be worried about history repeating itself.

[Blaster]

McCrorie coming in would surely mean a move to 4231 for Ross? His best role is 100% as a DM. So someone has to drop out to fit him into the team.

Squad game though. Certain games you may want to play 2 solid players in the middle, other games just one. We need 2 players in the squad that can play the DM role. Currently only have 1

[jacomo]

:agree: Stopped reading the Scotsman online as soon as they started that paywall crap. I wonder how many readers they lost because the paywall thing?


Their journalism is barely better than a free sheet these days. Can’t imagine many would pay for it.

[Brightside]

Squad game though. Certain games you may want to play 2 solid players in the middle, other games just one. We need 2 players in the squad that can play the DM role. Currently only have 1

Yep - but he looking for a move to Play. Not be a squad player. and if we are paying money for him i'm expecting Jack will be playing him. Sounds like a change in formation may well be on the cards.

[jacomo]

Inevitable that Celtc will put in a bid for Squirrel now. We know how they work... poach the best players from their rivals to keep them down.

If he goes, how do we replace him?

[Billy Whizz]

Inevitable that Celtc will put in a bid for Squirrel now. We know how they work... poach the best players from their rivals to keep them down.

If he goes, how do we replace him?

Not sure they’ll be flashing cash on another forward, after Ajeti/Fletcher when they’ll be needing another left back
Wonder if they’ll be back in for Hickey

[J-C]

you made 5 posts in that discussion :aok:


1st post nothing about McGinn smiley face response to Fritz.
2nd post, was pointing out the number of games he'd played in 3 seasons.
3rd post, was a response to you when sked how many last season and I said he was injured.
4th post was me mocking one of your usual posts by saying " keep it on topic" :aok: in reply to The Modfather.
5th post was pointing out that McGinn left St Mirren due to his contract expiring and not being released.


So 2 pointing out errors in your posts, 1 was a reply to you, 1 was a smiley to another poster and 1 mocking one of your usual replies, meanwhile 4 pages of you banging heads with anyone who dared challenge your mighty wisdom.

[J-C]

Don't know a lot about McRorie but I do like what I read, he's back to the type of player Stubbs was bringing in.

[Ozyhibby]

The Evening News starting to implement a paywall really is a joke.

The only way they are going to survive is to improve their content and get people to pay for it. Otherwise they will be gone all together. I have some sympathy for them.


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[Stuart93]

Yep - but he looking for a move to Play. Not be a squad player. and if we are paying money for him i'm expecting Jack will be playing him. Sounds like a change in formation may well be on the cards.

Could maybe replace newell in midfield if JR thinks he’s capable of linking play from deeper

[Ozyhibby]

:agree: Stopped reading the Scotsman online as soon as they started that paywall crap. I wonder how many readers they lost because the paywall thing?

Losing a customer who doesn’t pay isn’t much of a loss.[emoji23]


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[brog]

Paul was St Mirren's first choice RB when we signed him. Stephen is a free agent after being released by St Mirren. Big difference.

If we're going to keep talking about Stephen McG can we get 1 thing straight, he was not released by St Mirren. His contract ran out. I have no idea if St M offered him another deal, possibly not but he was not released!! In the old days there was a bit of a stigma about being a free transfer, now it's pretty much the opposite. Players choose to be free agents to improve their opportunities to command a better wage/signing on fee rather than their previous club receive a transfer fee. Again, I'm not saying that's the case with SM but there really isn't a "big difference" in his & his brother's situations.

[Brightside]

Losing a customer who doesn’t pay isn’t much of a loss.[emoji23]


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Content doesnt promote a pay model though. Anyway back on topic. Do we think we will still look to bring in another striker?

[S4uzee]

Content doesnt promote a pay model though. Anyway back on topic. Do we think we will still look to bring in another striker?

I’d hope so

[GloryGlory]

Losing a customer who doesn’t pay isn’t much of a loss.[emoji23]


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Yes - but number of customers accessing the site dictates what rate advertisers are prepared to pay.

[Speedway]

Will McCrorie insist on a Celtic clause though?

Could rule Hearts out?

[Billy Whizz]

Content doesnt promote a pay model though. Anyway back on topic. Do we think we will still look to bring in another striker?

I think we need another one, if either of the front 2 gets injured for a period of time, we’re down to the bare bones

[bigwheel]

I think we need another one, if either of the front 2 gets injured for a period of time, we’re down to the bare bones


do you not feel Gullan, Horgan, Wright and Boyle are enough cover?

[SouthMoroccoStu]

will mccrorie insist on a celtic clause though?

Could rule hearts out?

lol

[Since452]

Will McCrorie insist on a Celtic clause though?

Could rule Hearts out?

Deal-breaker for Hearts. If it wasn't for that he'd be training at the college right now.

I'll have a check what Dazajambo is saying to it

[Billy Whizz]

do you not feel Gullan, Horgan, Wright and Boyle are enough cover?

All attackers, good players, but none are what I’d call central strikers

[Stuart93]

Content doesnt promote a pay model though. Anyway back on topic. Do we think we will still look to bring in another striker?

I’d say so if we’re going for 2 up top. But whoever comes in will know they’re back up I’d imagine

[MWHIBBIES]

1st post nothing about McGinn smiley face response to Fritz.
2nd post, was pointing out the number of games he'd played in 3 seasons.
3rd post, was a response to you when sked how many last season and I said he was injured.
4th post was me mocking one of your usual posts by saying " keep it on topic" :aok: in reply to The Modfather.
5th post was pointing out that McGinn left St Mirren due to his contract expiring and not being released.


So 2 pointing out errors in your posts, 1 was a reply to you, 1 was a smiley to another poster and 1 mocking one of your usual replies, meanwhile 4 pages of you banging heads with anyone who dared challenge your mighty wisdom.

I didn't bang heads with anyone. I had a discussion about football. I never once claimed to have "mighty wisdom". Sorry, is there some forum page limit for a discussion? Why are you trying to make out like I've done something wrong??

[Hibernian Verse]

I didn't bang heads with anyone. I had a discussion about football. I never once claimed to have "mighty wisdom". Sorry, is there some forum page limit for a discussion? Why are you trying to make out like I've done something wrong??The post you've quoted and your reply above are a pain in the arse to read. Just FYI.

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[Unseen work]

The infamous cat claiming we’re still looking at Ross Stewart from County.

[bigwheel]

All attackers, good players, but none are what I’d call central strikers

That’s fair ..I suspect though , there will be a bit of mix and match with what we have in the squad this season - as our budget is limited somewhat ...I think that’s perhaps why McRorie may be preferred to Doherty - can play more positions ...

[04Sauzee]

Freddie White

Hearing Hibs still looking at Ross County Striker Ross Stewart! #Hibs

[Hibernian Verse]

Freddie White

Hearing Hibs still looking at Ross County Striker Ross Stewart! #HibsI'm hearing Hibs are looking at Ross McCrorie.

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[hfc rd]

Freddie White

Hearing Hibs still looking at Ross County Striker Ross Stewart! #Hibs

Is that not the The Cat?

[Heisenberg]

Freddie White

Hearing Hibs still looking at Ross County Striker Ross Stewart! #Hibs

Maybe Ron won the golf and was feeling generous 😂 Doubt we’d spend money on him and McCrorie. Too much of an outlay.

[Peevemor]

I'm hearing Hibs are looking at Ross McCrorie.

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Finger on the pulse...

[Greencore]

Fraser Murray could be heading to the pars on loan

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-championship/1505698/dunfermline-hibs-fraser-murray/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[SHODAN]

Both Rosses should be us done right? Assuming Boyle doesn't leave.

[RoYO!]

The infamous cat claiming we’re still looking at Ross Stewart from County.

Whatever happened to that guy?!

[BSEJVT]

I didn't bang heads with anyone. I had a discussion about football. I never once claimed to have "mighty wisdom". Sorry, is there some forum page limit for a discussion? Why are you trying to make out like I've done something wrong??

You need to get over yourself

This isn’t MWHIBBIES.NET

You and others who thankfully no longer post have ruined what used to be an enjoyable read

Most folk don’t give a damn what you think but your line by line rebuttal of anyone who dare disagree with you is tedious in the extreme

This is my first post in nearly a year and I couldn’t hold my water any longer

I know I could put you on ignore but such is your verbosity I would then see page upon page of blanks

Give it a rest or at least substantially rein it in

[SHODAN]

Whatever happened to that guy?!

:dizzy:

[HendoDelivered]

Fraser Murray could be heading to the pars on loan

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-championship/1505698/dunfermline-hibs-fraser-murray/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Be a good move for him

[SHODAN]

Be a good move for him

Three months to kick on, get some confidence and give Ross a reason to stick him in the starting line up. He has the ability.

[AlbertK86]

Be a good move for him

Definitely. Needs serious game time to prove his worth


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[Billy Whizz]

Fraser Murray could be heading to the pars on loan

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/scottish-championship/1505698/dunfermline-hibs-fraser-murray/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Would be great for Fraser, needs regular football just now

[MWHIBBIES]

You need to get over yourself

This isn’t MWHIBBIES.NET

You and others who thankfully no longer post have ruined what used to be an enjoyable read

Most folk don’t give a damn what you think but your line by line rebuttal of anyone who dare disagree with you is tedious in the extreme

This is my first post in nearly a year and I couldn’t hold my water any longer

I know I could put you on ignore but such is your verbosity I would then see page upon page of blanks

Give it a rest or at least substantially rein it in

I average less than 3 posts a day mate, I don't think you would see pages of blanks. Block away if you dislike me, that is perfectly reasonable.

I'll continue to discuss football and all things Hibs :)

[Vault Boy]

Would be a make or break loan for Fraser I can't help for feel, really hope he gets the chance to grasp it.

[Bostonhibby]

True to form even although this is where they got Boyce from.






Hectormasson Hectormasson

Posted 22 minutes ago
31 minutes ago, Morgaro Gomis said:
Hemmings signs for Burton.



Doubt we even looked at him but that’s another that was discussed on here that we definitely will not be signing.

If hemming signs for burton' he wouldn't have been good enough for hearts , im sure we have to set our standards a bit higher than burton targets ? Even though we're in a lower league set up, we've still got a couple to bring in imo, lets just wait and see there's a while to go yet ' if ever our season gets a go aheadYep, players at Burton's level won't be good enough for Hearts.

They'll be the sort of player who gets paid a lot and doesn't score many. Might even see them getting relegated.

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[Jakhog1]

Would be a make or break loan for Fraser I can't help for feel, really hope he gets the chance to grasp it.

Think Murray would do ok in that league, all the teams are honking so should cope ok

[S4uzee]

Content doesnt promote a pay model though. Anyway back on topic. Do we think we will still look to bring in another striker?

I’d hope so

[Billy Whizz]

Freddie White

Hearing Hibs still looking at Ross County Striker Ross Stewart! #Hibs

Would certainly weaken our Premiership title contenders, Ross County

[The Count]

I average less than 3 posts a day mate, I don't think you would see pages of blanks. Block away if you dislike me, that is perfectly reasonable.

I'll continue to discuss football and all things Hibs :)

Agree but less is more.

[Vault Boy]

I'd be surprised if we're still actively trying for Stewart. He'd cost a fair bit and it's an area we're strong in.

It's not that I don't think the squad could use an extra striker for depth, I just don't think we'll be spending a good bit of money for what would essentially be cover. If we sign a backup striker, I'd imagine it'll be a loan or a cheap free agent.

Whether we're still 'tracking' him as a long-term target is another matter.

[MWHIBBIES]

Its definitely nice to be after the quality players of teams in our league and the league below. Something we really dropped the ball on for most of the period between Mowbray and Stubbs. Few exeptions a long the way but I feel like a majority of our signings were from down south or abroad during that period. I don't really buy into the SPL experience thing being mandatory, football is football afterall, but it takes away some of the variables like moving country, being away from family etc that do effect players. It is something Aberdeen have done very well for years IMO. Guys like Mclean, Hayes and Rooney were all very good players for them for many years. Establishing ourselves during this period of undertainly would enable us to keep doing it and keep strenghening from our league rivals.

[penihibs]

Freddie White

Hearing Hibs still looking at Ross County Striker Ross Stewart! #Hibs

Thought he's looked a handful so far this season.

[The Modfather]

Would be a make or break loan for Fraser I can't help for feel, really hope he gets the chance to grasp it.

I think his time is long since gone tbh. A permanent move to someone like Dunfermline is probably best all round IMO. Think he could go on to have a solid enough career like Booth or Wotherspoon.

[Smartie]

Its definitely nice to be after the quality players of teams in our league and the league below. Something we really dropped the ball on for most of the period between Mowbray and Stubbs. Few exeptions a long the way but I feel like a majority of our signings were from down south or abroad during that period. I don't really buy into the SPL experience thing being mandatory, football is football afterall, but it takes away some of the variables like moving country, being away from family etc that do effect players. It is something Aberdeen have done very well for years IMO. Guys like Mclean, Hayes and Rooney were all very good players for them for many years. Establishing ourselves during this period of undertainly would enable us to keep doing it and keep strenghening from our league rivals.

I totally agree.

Even during the period you mention we had our better signings and bright spots - generally players who fitted the description you mention.

We got lost when we were snobby about the Scottish leagues and assumed that we would be getting more from more glamorous signings, many of whom were disastrous.

Alan O'Brien, Ma-Kalambay, De Graaf, Thornhill, James Collins etc.

Liam Miller, Stokes, Nish, McBride - all had a bit of experience of Scottish football and all did fine for us.

I know I've glossed over loads and there will be players who don't fall into the neat boxes here but I generally agree with you.

It all seemed obvious under Stubbs, then we didn't do it for a bit, now we're back to doing it again.

[eastmainsmsh]

If we are looking at Stewart hopefully no one is lining up a bid for Doidge

[we are hibs]

Is it a coincidence we seem to be adding more height to the team? Gogic and Nisbet both over 6ft. As is McRorie and Stewart who we are/have been linked with.

[Souter96Mac]

Thought he's looked a handful so far this season.

Perhaps not like for like regarding pace, but if Boyle goes then getting Stewart in would soften the blow as he looks capable playing on that right side of the pitch.

[18Craig75]

If Dunfermline are interest I’d just let them have Murray. Get him off the wage bill totally. Insert a buy back clause just in case, but he’s not currently good enough for Hibs and hasn’t shown anything to suggest he will be.

It’s done Scott Martin wonders who’s found his level. Let the lad go and play.

[Ozyhibby]

Content doesnt promote a pay model though. Anyway back on topic. Do we think we will still look to bring in another striker?

I know. And I think they know that as well. They need to improve the content but they are losing money hand over fist and can’t afford to do it. That’s why I have some sympathy. They know the solution but need massive investment for it to work. I think the paper will be gone soon enough.


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[BegbieHSC]

Huns are foaming at the mere prospect of us signing him on a perm 😂😂😂. #HandItIn

[Jones28]

What’s this #handitin thing?

[Billy Whizz]

What’s this #handitin thing?

I was just about to ask as well

[HendoDelivered]

What’s this #handitin thing?

The patter Rangers fans were using when Rangers were trying to sign Scotty Allan from us back in 2015 when he ended up handing in a transfer request.

[Jones28]

The patter Rangers fans were using when Rangers were trying to sign Scotty Allan from us back in 2015 when he ended up handing in a transfer request.

Ahahaha magic, cheers

[Greencore]

The sun are reporting we've been priced out for a move for mcorrie, then again it's fun to shake your title rivals up

[Ozyhibby]

I'd be surprised if we're still actively trying for Stewart. He'd cost a fair bit and it's an area we're strong in.

It's not that I don't think the squad could use an extra striker for depth, I just don't think we'll be spending a good bit of money for what would essentially be cover. If we sign a backup striker, I'd imagine it'll be a loan or a cheap free agent.

Whether we're still 'tracking' him as a long-term target is another matter.

Maybe be a replacement for Doidge? His value is probably as high now as it’s going to get? Maybe Ross sees it as a way to bring in funds to replace a couple of areas?


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[kinni35]

The sun are reporting we've been priced out for a move for mcorrie, then again it's fun to shake your title rivals up

where???


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[easty]

If Dunfermline are interest I’d just let them have Murray. Get him off the wage bill totally. Insert a buy back clause just in case, but he’s not currently good enough for Hibs and hasn’t shown anything to suggest he will be.

It’s done Scott Martin wonders who’s found his level. Let the lad go and play.

A buy back clause would be pointless. He’s no going to be good enough.

It’ll be a good move for him though, get him playing.