EPL Planning to finish their season

[Coach Jon]

looks like their have been discussions on planning for plaing the remainder of this season;

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11476053/premier-league-games-back-tv-within-weeks/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11476053/premier-league-games-back-tv-within-weeks/)

[Badabing]

looks like their have been discussions on planning for plaing the remainder of this season;

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11476053/premier-league-games-back-tv-within-weeks/

One paper reporting this; that paper. Can’t help but be sceptical.

[HibernianJK]

They won’t be doing anything of the sort without government permission and I’m not sure how the rUK decision could be different from Scotland when England has been hit worse.

[Onion]

Not doubting they can test everyone involved, but seriously. Liverpool fans able to watch their team win the Prem League for first time in a generation but NOT allowed to congregate or celebrate ? The players will do a lap of honour and receive the trophy at an empty Anfield ?

This is all about money and nothing to do with cheering the country up. Madness.

[FilipinoHibs]

Government will not allow. When are they going to do the tests? Imediate before games? Are they going to isolate players from their families? How do they stop fans gathering in crowds?

[Cabbage East]

People still read the Sun?

[Coach Jon]

Arsenal going back to training.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52428362

[ScottB]

This frustrating habit Downing Street has of ‘leaking’ ideas to pliant journalists that they’ll later either introduce or deny was ever a thing is ridiculous.

[Badabing]

Arsenal going back to training.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52428362

No they’re not. Individual players are being given access to training facilities. Still social distancing.

[Sammy7nil]

They won’t be doing anything of the sort without government permission and I’m not sure how the rUK decision could be different from Scotland when England has been hit worse.

One word money 💰

[Sammy7nil]

People still read the Sun?

Do bears still shiit in the woods ?

[PaulSmith]

People still read the Sun?

No. But now that several other publications are happy to run with the same story it seems to have some credibility (the article not the Sun)


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[Eyrie]

Do bears still shiit in the woods ?

Yes, then use The Sun before washing their paws.

[steviehibsleith]

Arsenal going back to training.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52428362

so Arsenal footballers driving to the training facility is essential travel...

[Diclonius]

They can plan all they want, it ain't happening.

[hibbysam]

so Arsenal footballers driving to the training facility is essential travel...

You are allowed to travel to work. You are also allowed to travel to exercise, as long as exercise is longer than the travel. So they’re probably covered both ways.

[hibee-boys]

so Arsenal footballers driving to the training facility is essential travel...

For many years a large proportion of the EPL, clubs and players have thought different rules apply to them so nothing surprises me. If there was ever a time to re- consider how society glorifies and remunerates them it is now. Makes me puke to think of our 'key workers' picking up salaries not much greater than minimum/living wages whilst these 'heroes' kick a football about getting their over inflated wages funded primarily from these very people through millions of sky sports subscriptions. I would be delighted if the whole league imploded financially.

[calumhibee1]

For many years a large proportion of the EPL, clubs and players have thought different rules apply to them so nothing surprises me. If there was ever a time to re- consider how society glorifies and remunerates them it is now. Makes me puke to think of our 'key workers' picking up salaries not much greater than minimum/living wages whilst these 'heroes' kick a football about getting their over inflated wages funded primarily from these very people through millions of sky sports subscriptions. I would be delighted if the whole league imploded financially.

Footballers are compensated based on what they bring into a club. If a company was bringing in tens of millions, sometimes hundreds of millions on the back of me you can bet your ass I’d expect/be entitled to a huge chunk of that.

What footballers earn has no correlation to what nurses earn. That’s not to say nurses etc shouldn’t be paid more of course.

[hibbysam]

For many years a large proportion of the EPL, clubs and players have thought different rules apply to them so nothing surprises me. If there was ever a time to re- consider how society glorifies and remunerates them it is now. Makes me puke to think of our 'key workers' picking up salaries not much greater than minimum/living wages whilst these 'heroes' kick a football about getting their over inflated wages funded primarily from these very people through millions of sky sports subscriptions. I would be delighted if the whole league imploded financially.

On a smaller scale but the exact same moral compass, you’d be happy for the league up here to implode and not have a club to support up here? We also rely (on a smaller scale) sky’s millions, and pay players far more than your average doctor or nurse gets. Those players are actually following the same rules as everyone else when it comes to exercise and work. What you are wanting is them actually to be held to different rules from everyone else.

[MWHIBBIES]

They can plan all they want, it ain't happening.

No reason it won't happen. Next season can be played either side of the euros or continue through it. Needs to be a break in winter for 2022 WC anyway.

[Ozyhibby]

For many years a large proportion of the EPL, clubs and players have thought different rules apply to them so nothing surprises me. If there was ever a time to re- consider how society glorifies and remunerates them it is now. Makes me puke to think of our 'key workers' picking up salaries not much greater than minimum/living wages whilst these 'heroes' kick a football about getting their over inflated wages funded primarily from these very people through millions of sky sports subscriptions. I would be delighted if the whole league imploded financially.

Wages reflect scarcity rather than worth. Fact is, it’s easier to train someone to be a nurse than it is to train someone to kick a ball like Salah.


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[hibee-boys]

Footballers are compensated based on what they bring into a club. If a company was bringing in tens of millions, sometimes hundreds of millions on the back of me you can bet your ass I’d expect/be entitled to a huge chunk of that.

What footballers earn has no correlation to what nurses earn. That’s not to say nurses etc shouldn’t be paid more of course.

My point was the money being pumped into football in general which in turn reflects in the wages being paid. Delighted if a decent percentage of subscribers don't bother renewing their sports packages which then impacts on the level of income/sponsorship deals etc.

[MWHIBBIES]

For many years a large proportion of the EPL, clubs and players have thought different rules apply to them so nothing surprises me. If there was ever a time to re- consider how society glorifies and remunerates them it is now. Makes me puke to think of our 'key workers' picking up salaries not much greater than minimum/living wages whilst these 'heroes' kick a football about getting their over inflated wages funded primarily from these very people through millions of sky sports subscriptions. I would be delighted if the whole league imploded financially.
Footballers wages have nothing to do with NHS wages. Bizarre people keep connecting them.

[hibee-boys]

On a smaller scale but the exact same moral compass, you’d be happy for the league up here to implode and not have a club to support up here? We also rely (on a smaller scale) sky’s millions, and pay players far more than your average doctor or nurse gets. Those players are actually following the same rules as everyone else when it comes to exercise and work. What you are wanting is them actually to be held to different rules from everyone else.

I'd be delighted if hibs, and all other clubs, budgets were wholly driven by the revenue they were able to generate, and not sky tv. But i'm sure you appreciate that is primarily the case up here, hardly comparable with EPL. You telling me there would be no hibs without skt tv money?

In regard to EPL getting back to their 'essential' work, you're correct, reading the rules they can't work from home so in theory they should be able to travel and complere their work. However, there is rules and there is what is just right and wrong, what message does it send to the general public as a whole?

[The Baldmans Comb]

England have been particularly hard hit by the Covid-19 crisis with death rates amongst the highest in the world per head of population so normally you wouldn't have given this story much credence.

The story has been around for a while though from some credible sources other than newspapers so they are obviously looking at some sort of closed door option.

What happens if lockdown number two happens or the closed camp quarantine doesnt work and what's the logistics if England goes to two week quarrintine at airports and how do you isolate refs, linesman, medical staff, physios plus all the media and TV people required to cover closed doors matches.

Presumably sports people and the surrounding circus get tested regularly and ahead of other sections of the community.

Huge hurdles but not insurmountable so good luck to them but other sports will ask for similar treatment.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Do bears still shiit in the woods ?

...or the Broomloan Stand?

[hibbyfraelibby]

You are allowed to travel to work. You are also allowed to travel to exercise, as long as exercise is longer than the travel. So they’re probably covered both ways.

The regs in England imply a 1 hr max away from home. Hope Plod is a Spurs supporter.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Footballers wages have nothing to do with NHS wages. Bizarre people keep connecting them.

Yes they do...if they actually paid their taxes in full instead of avoiding them NHS workers could be paid more funded by the government collecting said taxes.

[hibee-boys]

Wages reflect scarcity rather than worth. Fact is, it’s easier to train someone to be a nurse than it is to train someone to kick a ball like Salah.


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Wages equal scarcity? In football that might be the case but across the working population? Nonsense, the leading minds in medicine are getting paid £100,000s a week are they?

[B.H.F.C]

I'd be delighted if hibs, and all other clubs, budgets were wholly driven by the revenue they were able to generate, and not sky tv. But i'm sure you appreciate that is primarily the case up here, hardly comparable with EPL. You telling me there would be no hibs without skt tv money?

In regard to EPL getting back to their 'essential' work, you're correct, reading the rules they can't work from home so in theory they should be able to travel and complere their work. However, there is rules and there is what is just right and wrong, what message does it send to the general public as a whole?

There are plenty other places operating, within the rules, which aren’t necessarily essential.

Is it essential for Five Guys to be serving burgers? Is it essential to queue for a Costa Coffee. Is everybody shopping at B&Q purchasing an essential item?

The EPL and it’s clubs are a commercial entity and if they can start working again they will, same as everybody else and not because they think different rules apply to them.

[Billy Whizz]

There are plenty other places operating, within the rules, which aren’t necessarily essential.

Is it essential for Five Guys to be serving burgers? Is it essential to queue for a Costa Coffee. Is everybody shopping at B&Q purchasing an essential item?

The EPL and it’s clubs are a commercial entity and if they can start working again they will, same as everybody else and not because they think different rules apply to them.

But your examples above, operate with social distancing

Wonder how the EPL will get round this

[BoomtownHibees]

Yes they do...if they actually paid their taxes in full instead of avoiding them NHS workers could be paid more funded by the government collecting said taxes.

Bit of a sweeping statement that

[B.H.F.C]

But your examples above, operate with social distancing

Wonder how the EPL will get round this

They’re meant to operate with social distancing, doesn’t mean they do going by some of the pictures I’ve seen.

Simple answer where football is concerned is that if it’s still required, football doesn’t restart. Unless they do something as regards testing which they’re funding themselves.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yes they do...if they actually paid their taxes in full instead of avoiding them NHS workers could be paid more funded by the government collecting said taxes.

Are there many England based players who have avoided tax?

Bit of a stretch to blame footballers for that, they must pay hundreds of millions in taxes along with their clubs.

[hibee-boys]

There are plenty other places operating, within the rules, which aren’t necessarily essential.

Is it essential for Five Guys to be serving burgers? Is it essential to queue for a Costa Coffee. Is everybody shopping at B&Q purchasing an essential item?

The EPL and it’s clubs are a commercial entity and if they can start working again they will, same as everybody else and not because they think different rules apply to them.

That's right, because your local Costa and Five Guys staff have such a high profile in their local communities. You've got your opinion, i've got mine, let's leave it at that👍

[hibbyfraelibby]

Are there many England based players who have avoided tax?

Bit of a stretch to blame footballers for that, they must pay hundreds of millions in taxes along with their clubs.

I used the term "avoided" rather than "evaded" deliberately. Yes they pay some tax but not as much as they should.

[B.H.F.C]

That's right, because your local Costa and Five Guys staff have such a high profile in their local communities. You've got your opinion, i've got mine, let's leave it at that👍

Opinions are one thing, but I have no idea what you’re getting at in regards to their profile in the local community? The people on the front line are working for huge multi national businesses who are operating within the rules, even if some might perceive what they do to be non essential.

[hibee-boys]

Opinions are one thing, but I have no idea what you’re getting at in regards to their profile in the local community? The people on the front line are working for huge multi national businesses who are operating within the rules, even if some might perceive what they do to be non essential.

You've no idea how the behaviour of our footballers might impact on their communities? Deary me, I'll give you one example......we're asking our kids to stay indoors, not socialise with friends, stay away from the park, playing football. What example would their idols by setting them by getting back to business as usual?

[MWHIBBIES]

I used the term "avoided" rather than "evaded" deliberately. Yes they pay some tax but not as much as they should.

And how do you know this?

[B.H.F.C]

You've no idea how the behaviour of our footballers might impact on their communities? Deary me, I'll give you one example......we're asking our kids to stay indoors, not socialise with friends, stay away from the park, playing football. What example would their idols by setting them by getting back to business as usual?

What is the behaviour you speak of? Going to work? Like millions of others?

So it’s not OK for footballers to go and train in an isolated environment with no members of the public present?

But it’s OK for multi national businesses to open their premises and interact with thousands of members of the public?

I don’t particularly have an issue with what B&Q (as an example) are doing as long as it’s done properly. But it’s more likely to impact on the public than Arsenal training out of sight.

The fascination with bashing football and footballers, when it’s not really deserved, puzzles me. As for the example set to kids, speaking as a parent, that’s my job. It’s not down to Mikel Arteta.

[PaulSmith]

Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte has announced that professional sports teams can resume training on May 18.

[jacomo]

And how do you know this?


You could have a look at the names caught up in the film investment scandal a few years ago. Plenty of well known footballers there.

[MWHIBBIES]

You could have a look at the names caught up in the film investment scandal a few years ago. Plenty of well known footballers there.

So it's public knowledge and no one's done anything? So basically it's not illegal? I mean, maybe the government are doing it themselves so they don't want to shut those loopholes.

Look up the players together movement. The EPL players have more than played their part so far. Shame so many desperate to kick them down.

[jacomo]

So it's public knowledge and no one's done anything? So basically it's not illegal? I mean, maybe the government are doing it themselves so they don't want to shut those loopholes.

Look up the players together movement. The EPL players have more than played their part so far. Shame so many desperate to kick them down.


You really are unbearably tedious.

In your usual combative manner, you asked for evidence that EPL players avoided tax. I provided a source of evidence.

You could have just acknowledged that, but instead you feel the need to argue the toss. Again.

You are amongst a small number of know-all posters that really spoil enjoyment of this forum. It is extremely boring.

I can’t do anything about your ignorance so will leave it there.

[MWHIBBIES]

You really are unbearably tedious.

In your usual combative manner, you asked for evidence that EPL players avoided tax. I provided a source of evidence.

You could have just acknowledged that, but instead you feel the need to argue the toss. Again.

You are amongst a small number of know-all posters that really spoil enjoyment of this forum. It is extremely boring.

I can’t do anything about your ignorance so will leave it there.

Try to keep it on topic mate. Your opinion of me isn't relevant and no one, especially me, cares about it.

You provided a source (which you actually didn't, you mentioned it, you didn't link it) so I'm to just immediately stop replying and arguing my point.

If I'm spoiling your enjoyment then block me, otherwise keep it on topic and keep your personal feelings to yourself.

[CropleyWasGod]

So it's public knowledge and no one's done anything? So basically it's not illegal? I mean, maybe the government are doing it themselves so they don't want to shut those loopholes.

Look up the players together movement. The EPL players have more than played their part so far. Shame so many desperate to kick them down.

HMRC have

https://www.andersentax.co.uk/hmrc-crackdown-on-footballers-using-tax-schemes/

[MWHIBBIES]

HMRC have

https://www.andersentax.co.uk/hmrc-crackdown-on-footballers-using-tax-schemes/

Sounds good.

Still not the footballers faults though. Don't think any of them have done anything illegal. Done a lot of brilliant work to aid this crisis so far as well.

[jacomo]

Sounds good.

Still not the footballers faults though. Don't think any of them have done anything illegal. Done a lot of brilliant work to aid this crisis so far as well.


Learning the difference between avoidance and evasion would help.

[MWHIBBIES]

Learning the difference between avoidance and evasion would help.

I understand it.

Its you who seems to fail to understand that what Liverpool pay Allison has nothing to do with what the government pay nurses.

[hibbysam]

I'd be delighted if hibs, and all other clubs, budgets were wholly driven by the revenue they were able to generate, and not sky tv. But i'm sure you appreciate that is primarily the case up here, hardly comparable with EPL. You telling me there would be no hibs without skt tv money?

In regard to EPL getting back to their 'essential' work, you're correct, reading the rules they can't work from home so in theory they should be able to travel and complere their work. However, there is rules and there is what is just right and wrong, what message does it send to the general public as a whole?

We would have to cut out cloth remarkably to stay afloat if we had zero tv money. Commercial deals and sponsorships would diminish as they wouldn’t be shown on tele and we would lose millions of TV revenues. Like I said, the exact same scenario as down south on a much smaller scale.

[Coach Jon]

Reported that they are restarting EPL on Wed June 17 with the 2 games outstanding, Man city v Arsenal, and Sheff Utd v Aston Villa. This will then mean all clubs have played the same amount of matches, A full programme will then start the following weekend.

[crash]

Reported that they are restarting EPL on Wed June 17 with the 2 games outstanding, Man city v Arsenal, and Sheff Utd v Aston Villa. This will then mean all clubs have played the same amount of matches, A full programme will then start the following weekend.
Also restarting the FA cup which is currently at the QF stage, aiming for the Final to be played on August 1st. All ties will be played at Neutral venues.

[Keith_M]

Sounds good.

Still not the footballers faults though. Don't think any of them have done anything illegal. Done a lot of brilliant work to aid this crisis so far as well.


Yeah, the poor guys were just innocent parties willing to do almost anything to keep their income out of the hands of that pesky HMRC. Only the little people pay taxes, you know.


So the 'films' were just a total scam?... Big deal! ... Blame the accountants for misleading the wee lambs.

[MWHIBBIES]

Yeah, the poor guys were just innocent parties willing to do almost anything to keep their income out of the hands of that pesky HMRC. Only the little people pay taxes, you know.


So the 'films' were just a total scam?... Big deal! ... Blame the accountants for misleading the wee lambs.

Little bit late on this one. It meant that it isn't the footballers fault that the NHS is underfunded. Those 2 things aren't related at all.

Footballers have done a lot to help during this crisis. Much more than me or you.

[Lago]

All broadcast free to air, lovely 👌

[Coach Jon]

Looking forward to seeing SJM playing tonight for Villa, in what is a massive game for them, also a big game for Sheff Utd who were promoted with Villa last season but have had a better time of it in the Premier.

[where'stheslope]

It was an amazing game, nearly all the players were sporting new haircuts?
Sheffield scored when the Villa player bundled his goalkeeper over the line, ref says his watch never vibrated?
Jack Grealish took some challenges, but, he never seems to stay on his feet in any challenge?
Social distancing after the game finished was non existent?
All in all it was not worth watching, fans make football in stadiums work!!!!

[Victor]

Man City have covered their seating with advertising banners. Think it looks better than rows of empty seats. Probably gives them some income too.


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[GonzoReturns]

The background crowd noise is pretty good.

[SteveHFC]

Man City have covered their seating with advertising banners. Think it looks better than rows of empty seats. Probably gives them some income too.


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Wonder if we could do something similar when our season starts.

[Victor]

The background crowd noise is pretty good.

Yeah. It’s better than the Bundesliga effects. Think overall the ‘atmosphere’ at the EPL matches has been better.


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[Victor]

Wonder if we could do something similar when our season starts.

Hope so. We will need to try everything to get some income.


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