Re idiots

[staunchhibby]

Hear that a group of 4 persons today blatantly broke the rules re going out.Had to be rescued from Cramond Island today by emergency services.Apparently they have been fined.Those idiots don't realise that this type of stupidity makes the Government look at stronger measures that could impact on the others that toe the line.

[WoreTheGreen]

Dundee ICT Huns and wee Huns that four

[murray26]

They should have left them overnight

[hibee]

https://www.thenen.co.uk/group-rescued-from-cramond-island-and-hit-with-fixed-penalty-notices/

[Joe6-2]

Absolute a*seholes, how bloody stupid are people???

[The dalmeny]

Hear that a group of 4 persons today blatantly broke the rules re going out.Had to be rescued from Cramond Island today by emergency services.Apparently they have been fined.Those idiots don't realise that this type of stupidity makes the Government look at stronger measures that could impact on the others that toe the line.


yip suck it up now and let’s get it over with

[DarlingtonHibee]

Absolute a*seholes, how bloody stupid are people???

Name and shame them.

[Ringothedog]

Name and shame them.

They will wear it as a badge of honour. People like that don’t give a Donald Duck about others.

[Michael]

Wow, they're in their 20s and 30s too. Beyond stupid.

[DarlingtonHibee]

They will wear it as a badge of honour. People like that don’t give a Donald Duck about others.

Their employer might.

[CMurdoch]

They should have left them overnight

I agree
No weather issues.

Similarly I don't understand why they declared themselves stranded.
You would have to be a massive dumperheid not to know you would be in massive trouble with the authorities.
Far better to tough it out overnight and take it as your punishment.

[Hillsidehibby]

I don't want to come over holier than though but I live beside the big park. The amount of people playing football and hitting baseballs??

They obviously don't give a ****.

[Captain Trips]

I'm seeing all sorts of disgraceful behavior and have called police. 20 people all with trailers in my street talking I have no idea wtf they were doing. Families mingling etc etc. Police moved them on.

My car is parked on road outside house. Would washing it be acceptable? I still have to drive to work everyday.

[Forza Fred]

Seeing they were marooned on the island, pretty obvious they were a hearts supporters.

[AgentDaleCooper]

Hear that a group of 4 persons today blatantly broke the rules re going out.Had to be rescued from Cramond Island today by emergency services.Apparently they have been fined.Those idiots don't realise that this type of stupidity makes the Government look at stronger measures that could impact on the others that toe the line.

the worst thing is they will give the government an excuse to blame the public rather than themselves for the extent of the outbreak.

[CMurdoch]

the worst thing is they will give the government an excuse to blame the public rather than themselves for the extent of the outbreak.

The British Government started the pandemic!!! Who knew:shocked:

[Inconsequential]

The British Government started the pandemic!!! Who knew:shocked: The previous poster didn't infer that whatsoever.

[Hibrandenburg]

They should have left them overnight

Spent many a night in the wee bunker on Cramond Island with a couple of bottles of Strongbow back in the day.

[NAE NOOKIE]

No matter how hard you try idiots will be idiots. Should have left them on the bloody island.

[cabbageandribs1875]

the courts should force the covidiots to cover the costs for emergency call outs like this

[lapsedhibee]

I agree
No weather issues.

Similarly I don't understand why they declared themselves stranded.
You would have to be a massive dumperheid not to know you would be in massive trouble with the authorities.
Far better to tough it out overnight and take it as your punishment.

Be fair. They wouldn't necessarily have known that the tide would eventually go out again.

[Antifa Hibs]

Hear that a group of 4 persons today blatantly broke the rules re going out.Had to be rescued from Cramond Island today by emergency services.Apparently they have been fined.Those idiots don't realise that this type of stupidity makes the Government look at stronger measures that could impact on the others that toe the line.

To cut them some slack they're complete fanny's for not reading the tide timetable correctly. I don't see much difference walking out to Cramond Island over walking further up the Almond to the waterfall for example.

Certainly shouldn't be grassed to their employers and lose there jobs over it.

And agree with the other posters. If it was me to save the ridneck i'd try wait it out and get across when the tide left again first thing.

[Scouse Hibee]

Is this any different to the numerous people that get stranded there throughout the year because they haven’t realised or read the tide timings? I don’t get the outrage myself!

[danhibees1875]

Is this any different to the numerous people that get stranded there throughout the year because they haven’t realised or read the tide timings? I don’t get the outrage myself!

So long as they're local to crammond I'm not sure what rules they've broken.

Unless the island is closed? It would seem reasonable to do so given the "risk" of being stuck there - but that's not been stated anywhere I can see.

I certainly don't see the rush to "name and shame" people.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

So long as they're local to crammond I'm not sure what rules they've broken.

Unless the island is closed? It would seem reasonable to do so given the "risk" of being stuck there - but that's not been stated anywhere I can see.

I certainly don't see the rush to "name and shame" people.

Yes their parents don’t know they are Jambos yet ;)

[oneone73]

So long as they're local to crammond I'm not sure what rules they've broken.

Unless the island is closed? It would seem reasonable to do so given the "risk" of being stuck there - but that's not been stated anywhere I can see.

I certainly don't see the rush to "name and shame" people.

If they're not from the same household, they're breaking the law, presuming they were walking to the island together.

[Pretty Boy]

Surely this is just another example of people failing to use common sense. Some people moan about the 'nanny state' and so on but it seems others (perhaps some of the same people) are happy to abdicate all personal responsibility if everything isn't spelled out for them. No one needs to walk to an island that is cut off by the tide for long spells. There is extensive areas around Cramond for locals to excercise that makes that a completely unnecessary activity and a potential waste of stretched resources.

The government should be right in the firing line when it comes to assessing what has seen this virus spread so readily in the UK. People who continue to have BBQs, meet in groups, walk to tidal islands etc etc are allowing the blame to be shifted.

[HappyAsHellas]

There are plenty of warning signs on all the approaches to Cramond island informing you of tide times and when it is safe to walk there. People get stranded there on a regular basis either because they are stupid or couldn't give a damn. With the maximum possible stranding being about 6 hours I'd just leave them unless children are part of the group.

[EI255]

Name and shame them.

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[EI255]

Seems to be some sort of the in thing between, mainly, teenagers (not always though) to go out at dark and act the big shots. Heard a story about a taxi driver collecting pi55 heads from a house party last weekend. The taxi driver not showering himself in glory either though. Greed / desperate times calls I guess.

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[EI255]

No matter how hard you try idiots will be idiots. Should have left them on the bloody island.Pity their little mobile phones hadn't packed in. Let them squirm overnight.

Nah, they crapped themselves and called for mummy to come and help them. Boo hoo.

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[EI255]

Is this any different to the numerous people that get stranded there throughout the year because they haven’t realised or read the tide timings? I don’t get the outrage myself!I take it this is a wind up?

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[Scouse Hibee]

I take it this is a wind up?

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You take it wrong!

[tamig]

You take it wrong!

PBs post spells it out. At this moment in time it is very different. Of course it is.

[heretoday]

There are plenty of warning signs on all the approaches to Cramond island informing you of tide times and when it is safe to walk there. People get stranded there on a regular basis either because they are stupid or couldn't give a damn. With the maximum possible stranding being about 6 hours I'd just leave them unless children are part of the group.

You can't do that though can you?

[Future17]

Is this any different to the numerous people that get stranded there throughout the year because they haven’t realised or read the tide timings? I don’t get the outrage myself!

Because they've broken the law and likely forced their rescuers to come into close contact with them at a time when that could have very serious consequences for the rescuers and their families.


So long as they're local to crammond I'm not sure what rules they've broken.

Unless the island is closed? It would seem reasonable to do so given the "risk" of being stuck there - but that's not been stated anywhere I can see.

I certainly don't see the rush to "name and shame" people.

It's hard to know where to begin with this but it isn't reasonable to take your exercise by walking to an island where you might not be able to walk back.

[danhibees1875]

Because they've broken the law and likely forced their rescuers to come into close contact with them at a time when that could have very serious consequences for the rescuers and their families.



It's hard to know where to begin with this but it isn't reasonable to take your exercise by walking to an island where you might not be able to walk back.

But you are able to walk back, you just have to do it before the tide is back in.

They've been silly to get stuck out there, but no more so than people are whenever they do it. Unless they've done something else then they've not broken any of the rules and the clamour from people to name and shame them seems OTT.

[Hibbyradge]

Is this any different to the numerous people that get stranded there throughout the year because they haven’t realised or read the tide timings? I don’t get the outrage myself!

Are they all from the same family?

[CropleyWasGod]

Are they all from the same family?

The report didn't specify. IIRC,it was 2 guys and a woman all in their 20s.

They could have been housemates, of course.

[Scouse Hibee]

Are they all from the same family?

It doesn’t say which is my point really. their only mistake could be that they misjudged the tide times whilst taking exercise locally.

[CropleyWasGod]

It doesn’t say which is my point really. their only mistake could be that they misjudged the tide times whilst taking exercise locally.

If the police have fined them, as the report claims, they must have broken the rules. Which means they aren't cohabiting.

[Future17]

But you are able to walk back, you just have to do it before the tide is back in.

They've been silly to get stuck out there, but no more so than people are whenever they do it. Unless they've done something else then they've not broken any of the rules and the clamour from people to name and shame them seems OTT.

They chose to exercise by undertaking an activity they weren't able to safely complete, at a time when everybody should be taking extra care.

They clearly breached the regulations otherwise they wouldn't have been fined by the police.

Anyone attempting to defend such behaviour is essentially giving licence to others to behave in the same way.

[Chorley Hibee]

3 car loads of family members appeared in my cul-de-sac this afternoon visiting neighbours.

People literally don't give a **** as long as they can do what they like!

Really pissing me off!

[heretoday]

It doesn’t say which is my point really. their only mistake could be that they misjudged the tide times whilst taking exercise locally.

I'm with you on this one.

[danhibees1875]

They chose to exercise by undertaking an activity they weren't able to safely complete, at a time when everybody should be taking extra care.

They clearly breached the regulations otherwise they wouldn't have been fined by the police.

Anyone attempting to defend such behaviour is essentially giving licence to others to behave in the same way.

Indeed. I missed the part where they were fined. They've clearly done something they shouldn't have then. :agree:

[HappyAsHellas]

I regularly go out there to collect bait at low tide and it's surprising how many people you see walking over to the island as the tide is coming in. I have warned people of this yet they just continue on their outing not even thinking about the hassle they can cause. Lifeboats should be left for emergency situations, not for giving day trippers a lift back to avoid wet feet.

[Future17]

It doesn’t say which is my point really. their only mistake could be that they misjudged the tide times whilst taking exercise locally.

It says they were fined, so the police believed they broke the law.

[Future17]

Indeed. I missed the part where they were fined. They've clearly done something they shouldn't have then. :agree:

:aok:

[Billy Whizz]

What is the actual time, you’re allowed out for?
Is it an hour, or is it a distance from your house?

Heard Jason Keith yesterday, saying he goes for a 5k run everyday

[Scouse Hibee]

It says they were fined, so the police believed they broke the law.

Yes they were out longer than an hour but only because they were stranded 😁

[danhibees1875]

What is the actual time, you’re allowed out for?
Is it an hour, or is it a distance from your house?

Heard Jason Keith yesterday, saying he goes for a 5k run everyday

I don't think there's any time or distance restrictions in place.

[tamig]

I don't think there's any time or distance restrictions in place.

There isn’t the only stipulation is once a day. I can see that being tightened up shortly though.

[Wilson]

There isn’t the only stipulation is once a day. I can see that being tightened up shortly though.

Not sure how. Lower than once is zero. That is a non-starter.

[HappyAsHellas]

Some countries put a distance limit you can travel from home for exercise. Not too hard to implement.

[Smartie]

Based on my experiences over the past week, the biggest improvement they need to make is to get tougher on supermarkets.

About 95% of people are playing by the rules in place immaculately. I suppose much depends on the damage being done by the remaining 5%.

I think we’ll see a big improvement in numbers over the next week and the discussion can reasonably turn towards how we emerge from lockdown. I don’t realistically see it happening within the next 3 weeks though.

[Jack]

The pathway to the island has now been closed by the council.

[Hibby Bairn]

Some countries put a distance limit you can travel from home for exercise. Not too hard to implement.

Only if you’re happy with asking the Police to stop and ask people how far they are from their home.

As far as I can see most folk are complying very well. More effective measures like closing car parking areas would be effective in stopping people driving to areas to exercise or walk dogs.

Just go for a walk or run locally. Just walk your dog locally. Don’t use your car.

[Hibby Bairn]

Based on my experiences over the past week, the biggest improvement they need to make is to get tougher on supermarkets.

About 95% of people are playing by the rules in place immaculately. I suppose much depends on the damage being done by the remaining 5%.

I think we’ll see a big improvement in numbers over the next week and the discussion can reasonably turn towards how we emerge from lockdown. I don’t realistically see it happening within the next 3 weeks though.

I noticed yesterday in my first venture out to a larger supermarket that some folk with masks on seem to think themselves immune to the need to social distance. One particular couple (why the need to shop as a duo?) were reminded by me as they barged past. ********s.

Note: I’m not saying all mask wearers do this 👍

[grunt]

Coronavirus: Family fined for London to Devon fishing trip
uk-england-devon-52261055 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52261055)

[I'm_cabbaged]

I noticed yesterday in my first venture out to a larger supermarket that some folk with masks on seem to think themselves immune to the need to social distance. One particular couple (why the need to shop as a duo?) were reminded by me as they barged past. ********s.

Note: I’m not saying all mask wearers do this 👍

Them and glove wearers, seem to have a sense of invincibility. Touching everything around the shop and into their cars with then still on touching everything in between!!

Also a note: not all!

[HappyAsHellas]

Diggers were up at Cramond last week targeting the worm beds as they've decimated their own area and so now have to travel. I fully understand worm diggers will not be high on the priority list for the authorities to target, but surely it should be obvious now given how few folk are on the beach. They sell for about £50 for 200 inc delivery in case you're wondering.

[RyeSloan]

Diggers were up at Cramond last week targeting the worm beds as they've decimated their own area and so now have to travel. I fully understand worm diggers will not be high on the priority list for the authorities to target, but surely it should be obvious now given how few folk are on the beach. They sell for about £50 for 200 inc delivery in case you're wondering.

Commercial worm diggers? What?

And who pays £50 for 200 worms?

Is this a woosh from me or am I the only person that has no idea what you are talking about? [emoji2957]

[overdrive]

Is it illegal to be waiting at a bus stop? I noticed police threatening a couple of folk with a fine for waiting at a stop on Leith Walk yesterday. They were keeping a distance from each other.

[HappyAsHellas]

No whoosh moment - bait for sea fishing is quite expensive, you can buy frozen worms for £5 for 10 at the local angling centre. Fresh worms sell for more and people get them delivered all over the country. Go on ebay and search for lug worms.

[Hibbyradge]

Is it illegal to be waiting at a bus stop? I noticed police threatening a couple of folk with a fine for waiting at a stop on Leith Walk yesterday. They were keeping a distance from each other.

It would depend on the reason they're going out.

[Hibby Bairn]

Is it illegal to be waiting at a bus stop? I noticed police threatening a couple of folk with a fine for waiting at a stop on Leith Walk yesterday. They were keeping a distance from each other.

How else do you get on a bus?

[RyeSloan]

No whoosh moment - bait for sea fishing is quite expensive, you can buy frozen worms for £5 for 10 at the local angling centre. Fresh worms sell for more and people get them delivered all over the country. Go on ebay and search for lug worms.

Well there you go, every day is a school day!

£5 for 10 frozen worms, wow.

[Billy Whizz]

No whoosh moment - bait for sea fishing is quite expensive, you can buy frozen worms for £5 for 10 at the local angling centre. Fresh worms sell for more and people get them delivered all over the country. Go on ebay and search for lug worms.

Are you allowed to fish at the moment?

[HappyAsHellas]

No you're not allowed to fish at the moment as several people throughout the UK have found out with warnings and fines. I've even given up digging bait till we're allowed back out.

[Billy Whizz]

No you're not allowed to fish at the moment as several people throughout the UK have found out with warnings and fines. I've even given up digging bait till we're allowed back out.

Not even at sea

[Captain Trips]

Not even at sea

I guess you couldn't get more self isolated in a job.

[HappyAsHellas]

Most fishing boats aren't out just now because there's not enough buyers with hotels etc all closed. Fishing is a hobby or pastime and therefore not essential.

[Billy Whizz]

Most fishing boats aren't out just now because there's not enough buyers with hotels etc all closed. Fishing is a hobby or pastime and therefore not essential.

Most supermarkets have closed their fish counters as well

[Sudds_1]

What is the actual time, you’re allowed out for?
Is it an hour, or is it a distance from your house?

Heard Jason Keith yesterday, saying he goes for a 5k run everyday

Good....he should be miles away by now!!😁😁

[Carheenlea]

I’ve spotted a few anglers fishing the tweed when out on walks with the kids - wasn’t aware that there was any suspension of this activity?

[Smartie]

Most supermarkets have closed their fish counters as well

Really?

That's a shame.

When the silly panic buying was going on a few weeks ago the fish counter seemed to have been left alone. We were eating quite a lot of fish around that time, and really enjoying it.

[B.H.F.C]

I’ve spotted a few anglers fishing the tweed when out on walks with the kids - wasn’t aware that there was any suspension of this activity?

It certainly isn’t listed as one of the reasons to leave the house!

[Billy Whizz]

Really?

That's a shame.

When the silly panic buying was going on a few weeks ago the fish counter seemed to have been left alone. We were eating quite a lot of fish around that time, and really enjoying it.
And their fresh meat counters too, gone back to pre pack, utilising the staff in other areas

[Billy Whizz]

It certainly isn’t listed as one of the reasons to leave the house!

You’re allowed to go out to get your tea😄

[lord bunberry]

Seems to be some sort of the in thing between, mainly, teenagers (not always though) to go out at dark and act the big shots. Heard a story about a taxi driver collecting pi55 heads from a house party last weekend. The taxi driver not showering himself in glory either though. Greed / desperate times calls I guess.

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What’s the taxi driver done wrong in this situation?

[HappyAsHellas]

I don't think fishing is specifically listed but I do know that certain angling organisations contacted the government for advice and were told essentially to stay indoors, like everyone else. Anyone trying to claim it is exercise is at it.

[WoreTheGreen]

Good....he should be miles away by now!!😁😁

A few laps around Trainor

[Carheenlea]

I don't think fishing is specifically listed but I do know that certain angling organisations contacted the government for advice and were told essentially to stay indoors, like everyone else. Anyone trying to claim it is exercise is at it.

All the anglers I’ve seen have been solitary, and usually stood in the middle of the river. Don’t really see what the problem is with that, but of course they need to get to and from the river somehow.

[HappyAsHellas]

You can say the same for hill walkers, mountaineers, birdwatchers or whatever. If something goes wrong you then endanger other people, so just stay home. Believe me, I'd love to go out fishing at some deserted shore but it's not allowed.

[Chorley Hibee]

You can say the same for hill walkers, mountaineers, birdwatchers or whatever. If something goes wrong you then endanger other people, so just stay home. Believe me, I'd love to go out fishing at some deserted shore but it's not allowed.

Agreed, it's only safe whilst a minority are doing it, but if everyone decides to go fishing/hill hillwalking this weekend, then you have a problem.

I don't understand why the selfish few don't get this.

[silverhibee]

Easily a dozen police cars chasing a blue bmw about the Silverknowes area, f***ing idiot.

[CropleyWasGod]

Easily a dozen police cars chasing a blue bmw about the Silverknowes area, f***ing idiot.

Ah I wondered.

They were buzzing about my street just now. I thought it might be about the Return of the Joyriders. :greengrin

Edit. Think they have it. It's a Merc.

[silverhibee]

Ah I wondered.

They were buzzing about my street just now. I thought it might be about the Return of the Joyriders. :greengrin

Edit. Think they have it. It's a Merc.



It did go past the house at quite a speed :greengrin, now to catch the 4 dafties on trial bikes going up and down to the beach.

[CropleyWasGod]

It did go past the house at quite a speed :greengrin, now to catch the 4 dafties on trial bikes going up and down to the beach.

Ha :)

They caught up with it in the cul-de-sac beside the pigeon man, if you know where that is :greengrin

As for the bikers, I reckon they're taking advantage of the fact that the helicopter is busy with other stuff just now. Little do they realise that the cops have got nowt to do these days, and are just itching for a pagger......

[silverhibee]

Ha :)

They caught up with it in the cul-de-sac beside the pigeon man, if you know where that is :greengrin

As for the bikers, I reckon they're taking advantage of the fact that the helicopter is busy with other stuff just now. Little do they realise that the cops have got nowt to do these days, and are just itching for a pagger......

I doo :greengrin

They were doing wheelies behind a polis car at the old folks home (now knocked down) the other day before heading in to the woods and away down the beach, they are not shy.

[Billy Whizz]

I doo :greengrin

They were doing wheelies behind a polis car at the old folks home (now knocked down) the other day before heading in to the woods and away down the beach, they are not shy.

They are getting away with nothing, with the silverhibee police, on the ball😄

[CropleyWasGod]

I doo :greengrin

They were doing wheelies behind a polis car at the old folks home (now knocked down) the other day before heading in to the woods and away down the beach, they are not shy.

It's like Restless Natives at times....

And then I come into the real world. If it goes on much longer, it'll be restless residents throwing trip-wires across the road. :greengrin