Best Hibs Captain

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Can probably guess the way this will go but...


Given I wasn’t around for the Famous 5 or Turnbulls Tornadoes....

Real Leaders over the piece have been few and far between IMO

Gordon Rae
Murdo
Sauzee
Jones
SDG

Ones I didn’t rate
Goram (just to get around pay structure)
Thomson (just to get around pay structure?)


Honourable mentions
Hoggy
McPake (gave us some hope in dark times)

Probably going for SDG.

[Diclonius]

In my time as a fan, David Gray. No contest.

[we are hibs]

David Gray. The amount of times he looked burst on a football field and managed to keep going and haul himself through games. The epitome of a Hibernian captain.

[danhibees1875]

Everything else aside I'd give it to SDG just for the last 10 minutes of the final alone.

[A Hi-Bee]

King Paddy, no contest.

[BILLYHIBS]

SDG

OR

John Yogi Hughes in the tunnel before the Millennium Derby walking up the line of HIBS players telling every one of them what was expected losing was not an option and no way were they losing that game

Sauzee had never seen that before in all his years of playing at the top level

[hibee_girl]

David Gray for obvious reasons. Stokes was raving about him during his interview with Bartley too, saying what a fantastic captain he is.

Sauzee worth a mention though.

[Deansy]

Pat Stanton without a doubt - an immense captain and - Boy ! - a Rolls Royce of a player !

[Vault Boy]

Sir David. Not just for the Cup, but for setting the new positive tone as our first signing after relegation. We were at our lowest point, yet managed to sign the best right back I've ever seen play for Hibs. We went from strength to strength over those 4 years.

[hibby6270]

Paddy, oh Paddy Paddy, oh Paddy Stanton, all the waaayy!!

Close the thread.(imho)

[Brightside]

Paul Hanlon - close thread.

[eastmainsmsh]

Sauzee was class but I did like Murdo terrific signing at time never seen Pat play apart from videos

[Since452]

David Gray hands down. Led the club from its lowest ever ebb to its highest. Iconic and inspirational captain.

[EI255]

In my lifetime....


Gordon Rae

John Blackley

Sauzee

Yogi

Murdo

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[Frazerbob]

McPake & Jones for me in recent times. Both had a huge influence on the team, when badly needed.

[HibbyAndy]

David Gray

[Bishop Hibee]

Stanton and SDG. Murdo McLeod was a great Captain too.

[vuefrom1875]

Stanton and SDG. Murdo McLeod was a great Captain too.

Paddy hands down...graceful, studied,with an aura around him.

[Onion]

Love all the Hibs Greats but we'd still be chasing shadows if it wasn't for Sir David Gray. His performance as Captain and player in that Final was as inspirational as anything I've seen or could hope for in a Hibs jersey.

SDG's description of the winning goal and how he wasn't going to be denied .....one word ... Legend :thumbsup:

[The 90+2]

Sir David. Brought us the cup then brought us up. Was a real leader from the shambles after relegation and was the first signing of post Butcher era. A real leader.

[Sammy7nil]

King Paddy, no contest.

It is a funny one as Paddy was known as the quite man! He also thought he was played out of position his whole career until he went to Celtic. He said I got away with it in midfield as he popped up with the odd goal but always thought he should have played sweeper. just goes to show how good he was.

Of the original list i would have to say Rae real warrior and led by example whilst still coming across as a genuine nice guy.

[Ray_]

It is a funny one as Paddy was known as the quite man! He also thought he was played out of position his whole career until he went to Celtic. He said I got away with it in midfield as he popped up with the odd goal but always thought he should have played sweeper. just goes to show how good he was.

Of the original list i would have to say Rae real warrior and led by example whilst still coming across as a genuine nice guy.

The 1972 league cup final was just one example of the way Pat Stanton drove Hibs on, and in that game he was up against the best scotland had to offer, which, at the time, one of the very best teams in Europe, but I had witnessed it week after week for several seasons Pat driving us forward from the middle of the park. He also won the Scottish football player of the year award in the same year Celtic reached the European Cup final for the second time in four years and he played every game that season in midfield, but in his Scotland games he tended to be played at the back.

[AgentDaleCooper]

In my time, SDG by an absolute country mile, even le god doesn't come close. If it hadn't been for that goal, we could very easily still be looking at crowds of 9k a week. But beyond that goal, his performance that day was absolutely heroic, completely set the tone, ran himself into the ground for the club and keep digging and digging before striking gold in the 92nd minute...it's the single most important goal in our history. I can't comment on Pat Stanton as I never saw him.

[Kato]

The 1972 league cup final was just one example of the way Pat Stanton drove Hibs on, and in that game he was up against the best scotland had to offer, which, at the time, one of the very best teams in Europe, but I had witnessed it week after week for several seasons Pat driving us forward from the middle of the park. He also won the Scottish football player of the year award in the same year Celtic reached the European Cup final for the second time in four years and he played every game that season in midfield, but in his Scotland games he tended to be played at the back.The Quiet Man tag was a press nickname as Pat wasn't too forward in interviews. On the field he never shut-up.

As a young player, at full back, I've read (too young to have seen him then) that he was a bit of nutter and was always in trouble. Maybe those who can remember could confirm.

Quiet man schmiet man...

Paddy Stanton is The King.

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

Can’t believe I missed out Yogi! Doh!

[chrisski33]

McPake & Jones for me in recent times. Both had a huge influence on the team, when badly needed.

Wouldnt say mcpake tbh for me esp after the 2012 cup final!

[Mibbes Aye]

If Geebsie was captain when he made that tackle on Colquhoun (which I can never find a link to, but I know it is out there) then it is thread closed.

SDG, Stanton, Sauzee, that's just so much blah blah blah. Geebsie all the way (if he was skipper when he crunched Colquhoun :greengrin)

[superfurryhibby]

The Quiet Man tag was a press nickname as Pat wasn't too forward in interviews. On the field he never shut-up.

As a young player, at full back, I've read (too young to have seen him then) that he was a bit of nutter and was always in trouble. Maybe those who can remember could confirm.

Quiet man schmiet man...

Paddy Stanton is The King.

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I don't remember Stanton's 60's career, but I don't think he was ever a full back or a nutter on the field. He played sweeper/centre half until he moved in to central midfield.

In terms of performance level and drive, Stanton above all for me.

Murdo McLeod, trophy winning captain, but I expected more from a man with his pedigree. |Far from a failure, but I suppose I expected more. He just wasn't as talented a footballer as the likes of Sauzee or Stanton.

[Danderhall Hibs]

In my time, SDG by an absolute country mile, even le god doesn't come close. If it hadn't been for that goal, we could very easily still be looking at crowds of 9k a week. But beyond that goal, his performance that day was absolutely heroic, completely set the tone, ran himself into the ground for the club and keep digging and digging before striking gold in the 92nd minute...it's the single most important goal in our history. I can't comment on Pat Stanton as I never saw him.

:agree: not just for that goal either. Every big game the guy shows up and puts a crunching tackle into set the tone/standard.

A real leader.

[HendoDelivered]

Sdg

[Kato]

I don't remember Stanton's 60's career, but I don't think he was ever a full back or a nutter on the field.




If you dont remember how can you come to any conclusion

...and he did play full back as a teenager.


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[BILLYHIBS]

The Quiet Man tag was a press nickname as Pat wasn't too forward in interviews. On the field he never shut-up.

As a young player, at full back, I've read (too young to have seen him then) that he was a bit of nutter and was always in trouble. Maybe those who can remember could confirm.

Quiet man schmiet man...

Paddy Stanton is The King.

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Don’t remember him ever being in trouble or a nutter on or off the field

Always a gentleman that led by example a model professional

I would also say for a captain he was quite quiet more telling people what to do and pointing but only when required

Did you ever see him play?

As for full back cannot remember that one either maybe as you say as a teenager or as a start in his early career his preferred positions were centre half preferably sweeper but will be best remembered as a midfield player

Legend!

[Bostonhibby]

Ones I've seen.

Pat Stanton by a mile, not just a fantastic all round footballer but a leader, he took games by the scruff off the neck when needed and often charged forward for a vital goal.

Then Rob Jones, and David Gray both leaders who I won't attempt to split.

I also thought John Hughes was an excellent leader, he was proud to have the armband.







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[One Day]

Patrick Gordon Stanton by a country mile

[confused]

I don't remember Stanton's 60's career, but I don't think he was ever a full back or a nutter on the field. He played sweeper/centre half until he moved in to central midfield.

In terms of performance level and drive, Stanton above all for me.

Murdo McLeod, trophy winning captain, but I expected more from a man with his pedigree. |Far from a failure, but I suppose I expected more. He just wasn't as talented a footballer as the likes of Sauzee or Stanton.

I don’t know where you read this but it must have bean the Beano or the Dandy , Pat was a Class act, A superb player ,

[spike220]

Can probably guess the way this will go but...


Given I wasn’t around for the Famous 5 or Turnbulls Tornadoes....

Real Leaders over the piece have been few and far between IMO

Gordon Rae
Murdo
Sauzee
Jones
SDG

Ones I didn’t rate
Goram (just to get around pay structure)
Thomson (just to get around pay structure?)


Honourable mentions
Hoggy
McPake (gave us some hope in dark times)

Probably going for SDG.

Is this just for the mens team?

[confused]

Don’t remember him ever being in trouble or a nutter on or off the field

Always a gentleman that led by example a model professional

I would also say for a captain he was quite quiet more telling people what to do and pointing but only when required

Did you ever see him play?



As for full back cannot remember that one either maybe as you say as a teenager or as a start in his early career his preferred positions were centre half preferably sweeper but will be best remembered as a midfield player

Legend!


100% agree, his class was shown by the fact that he never really got to play in his best position for Hibs, because he could play in midfield, to accommodate John Blackley another super player .

[MWHIBBIES]

Gray undoubtedly the best I've seen.

[Squealing pig]

Yogi was my fav for a long time

[Frazerbob]

Wouldnt say mcpake tbh for me esp after the 2012 cup final!

Not sure anyone can blame McPake for that fiasco. After that, he helped grab the team by the scruff of the neck and, particularly in Derbies, stop feeling sorry for ourselves.

[BILLYHIBS]

Not sure anyone can blame McPake for that fiasco. After that, he helped grab the team by the scruff of the neck and, particularly in Derbies, stop feeling sorry for ourselves.

Scored the goal to give us a smidgen of hope at half time soon to be dashed by Craig Thomson

[ancient hibee]

If you dont remember how can you come to any conclusion

...and he did play full back as a teenager.


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The first games I saw him play for Hibs were as an attacker wearing either 8 or 10.One of these games was against Dundee with Gordon Smith playing for them.

[The 90+2]

Sir David. Brought us the cup then brought us up. Was a real leader from the shambles after relegation and was the first signing of post Butcher era. A real leader.

I’m changing after today, Gary Caldwell 😁

[CentreLine]

Joe Davis, penalty king 🤴

[superfurryhibby]

I don’t know where you read this but it must have bean the Beano or the Dandy , Pat was a Class act, A superb player ,

Confused by name, Confused by nature. I don’t think you actually understood what or perhaps even read what I said, did you? Either way, no need for the Dandy and Beano type comment, it just makes you look even more of a fud,

[Smartie]

If Geebsie was captain when he made that tackle on Colquhoun (which I can never find a link to, but I know it is out there) then it is thread closed.

SDG, Stanton, Sauzee, that's just so much blah blah blah. Geebsie all the way (if he was skipper when he crunched Colquhoun :greengrin)

Surprised this is the only mention Geebsie’s had.

He was the captain of my favourite Hibs team and boy did he get stuck in.

[O'Rourke3]

Season after season. Stanton. Still in my top 2 of 3 greatest footballers. In terms of "when the going gets tough" SDG hands down. His commitment in the second half of the cup final was immense. I'm not just thinking of the goal, that was the icing on the cake. 15 mins to go and I thought he was having to go off and I was sharting myself...

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[BILLYHIBS]

The first games I saw him play for Hibs were as an attacker wearing either 8 or 10.One of these games was against Dundee with Gordon Smith playing for them.
:agree:

Made his debut Motherwell away as an inside forward scored in a 3-4 defeat IIRC

Joe McBride scored a hatrick for Motherwell

[FilipinoHibs]

Stanton
McNamarra
Yogi
Sauzee
Gray

[BILLYHIBS]

Surprised this is the only mention Geebsie’s had.

He was the captain of my favourite Hibs team and boy did he get stuck in.
:agree:

Very quick over 15 yards recovery was excellent very hard but fair tackler attitude and commitment was spot on never let us down

[Ray_]

Joe Davis, penalty king 🤴 Not against Hamburg he wasn't :greengrin

[The Count]

We live in the now our own life time which is understandable.However if your looking at the foundation of our great club then Michael Whelahan must get a mention.

[superfurryhibby]

The Quiet Man tag was a press nickname as Pat wasn't too forward in interviews. On the field he never shut-up.

As a young player, at full back, I've read (too young to have seen him then) that he was a bit of nutter and was always in trouble. Maybe those who can remember could confirm.

Quiet man schmiet man...

Paddy Stanton is The King.

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So. you never saw Stanton play as a youngster, but you've read things, eh, ok

Stanton played at right half in his earliest games for Hibs, he moved back to defence in his first season. I would recommend you return to the books, because your making things up. Imagine we could only comment on players we've seen play, there would be no discussion about the brilliance of Gordon Smith, joe Baker etc, etc.

You're also wrong about the quiet man nickname and about him being a bit of a nutter on the field. Maybe you're mixing him up with John McNamee, one of his early defensive partners, who by all accounts was a man with a short fuse.

Sometimes this place is brutal. These kind of responses typify the worst of Hibs net. Misinformed, a bit arrogant and just unnecessarily unpleasant.

Earlier in the thread I had replied to someone who highlighted Murdo McLeod as a great Hibs captain. I went on to say that he was a trophy winner, but in my view he wasn't close to Stanton or Sauzee as a player and leader on the field. Soon after I get a muppet asking if I had read that in the Beano or Dandy etc. The radge had assumed I was dissing Stanton and took offence. At least bother to read before rushing to get in an over aroused reply FFS.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Is this just for the mens team?

Tbh that’s what I had in mind but happy to widen it out I only know Joelle Murray but haven’t seen enough games to comment . Many will likely be the same so perhaps less of a debate but happy to hear others views?

[Seveno]

Season after season. Stanton. Still in my top 2 of 3 greatest footballers. In terms of "when the going gets tough" SDG hands down. His commitment in the second half of the cup final was immense. I'm not just thinking of the goal, that was the icing on the cake. 15 mins to go and I thought he was having to go off and I was sharting myself...

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Totally agree.

[houstonhibbee]

It is a funny one as Paddy was known as the quite man! He also thought he was played out of position his whole career until he went to Celtic. He said I got away with it in midfield as he popped up with the odd goal but always thought he should have played sweeper. just goes to show how good he was.

Of the original list i would have to say Rae real warrior and led by example whilst still coming across as a genuine nice guy.
Not sure about that
he was a brilliant attacking midfielder and scored loads of important goals
he would have been wasted as a sweeper in his younger days
by the time he went to celtic I agree that was probably the better position to play in his twilight years

[Sammy7nil]

Not sure about that
he was a brilliant attacking midfielder and scored loads of important goals
he would have been wasted as a sweeper in his younger days
by the time he went to celtic I agree that was probably the better position to play in his twilight years

It was Pat himself who said it, on that rubbish Roughie and other guy who I can't recall on a STV show now on YouTube. He also said he could not recall why he was called the quiet man

[Kato]

It was Pat himself who said it, on that rubbish Roughie and other guy who I can't recall on a STV show now on YouTube. He also said he could not recall why he was called the quiet man

OK, before this goes totally cold.

So Pat himself couldn’t recall himself why he was called The Quiet Man. I can’t ever recall him ever being called that until the biography with that title came out. When it appeared it confused me among others who had seen him and knew him. The explanation I was given by Simon Pia was that he a bit taciturn in interviews, nothing to do with his on field demeanour.


So. you never saw Stanton play as a youngster, but you've read things, eh, ok

Stanton played at right half in his earliest games for Hibs, he moved back to defence in his first season. I would recommend you return to the books, because your making things up. Imagine we could only comment on players we've seen play, there would be no discussion about the brilliance of Gordon Smith, joe Baker etc, etc.

You're also wrong about the quiet man nickname and about him being a bit of a nutter on the field. Maybe you're mixing him up with John McNamee, one of his early defensive partners, who by all accounts was a man with a short fuse.


I don't remember Stanton's 60's career, but I don't think he was ever a full back or a nutter on the field. He played sweeper/centre half until he moved in to central midfield.

What I meant was I didn’t see Pat Stanton play when he was a youngster so that puts us both in the same boat. ..and yes, I’ve read things about Stanton probably the same as you. When I said he was “a bit of a nutter” it was maybe
stretching things a bit. What I did read was that he was a bit “overenthusiastic” as a youngster and had to be told to “calm down”.
Can’t remember where but I most definitely have that recollection. As to the rest of your post, well you’re a radge as well as me if you think others are the only ones capable of flying of the handle. And as you didn’t see him in the 60’s either you cannot say for certain if he played any games, however few, at fullback or not. Players are given all sorts of experience when they are young and if he played at wing-half/outside right there is every chance he played the odd game at full-back. I can’t verify that but can recall “reading it”.


Did you ever see him play?

Yes, Billy. My first Hibs game was 1968 so saw him play in the vast majority of home games until he was transferred to Celtic
and around 50% of away matches in that period. As laddies we had our favourite spot down on the wall in line with the 18 yard line at the slope and watched as Pat regularly talked John Brownlie (a teenager at the time remember) through games. Talked, not ranted or shouted or moaned, talked. He certainly never restricted himself to “pointing” which is just an image in all our memories. No one could “point” their way through a career as Hibs captain. He was also in a position to talk the defence through certain situations and I saw him communicate with defenders many, many times. When Stein signed him for Celtic it was for two things, for Pat’s presence as a player on the park and to give Roy Aitkin and Roddy MacDonald their education. No way would that education be communicated by “pointing” at Parkhead.


Always a gentleman that led by example a model professional

Model professional yes. If you want to see him as “always a gentleman” he was in a way. There was the time when Rangers
were awarded a goal at ER, which was, typically, off-side and we had a perfect vantages our spot at the wall as Stanton and Blackley ran across to the linesman. I’ll quote Stanton to the best of my memory here “How’s about that for off-side then ya ******ing blind b******”, Blackley joined in, “There’s no point Pat he’s one of them.” Pat - “Aye, a Rangers loving b*******”. The linesman just stared ahead and didn’t move a muscle. Still seems gentlemanly to me, but not very quiet. Gentlemen from Niddrie don't suffer fools gladly.

superfurryhibby will probably accuse me of making things up again but he can go whistle, in the nicest possible spirit. :wink:

[Iggy Pope]

In backing Kato here, I recall being at the Besa game and Pat giving the stand side linesman a verbal and very unquiet paggering and the fellah wouldn’t have been English speaking either. And we were hammering them at the time.

[Kato]

In backing Kato here, I recall being at the Besa game and Pat giving the stand side linesman a verbal and very unquiet paggering and the fellah wouldn’t have been English speaking either. And we were hammering them at the time.

:aok: Thankyou, Iggy. What I wanted to emphasise mostly here is the confusion I felt when I saw the title of Pat's biography. Not my recollection at all. He wasn't a shouter but always a talker on the park.

Maybe he was quiet in relation to people like Roy Aitken, who "talked" so hard at match officials he'd leave them covered in a coat of his spittle.

[BILLYHIBS]

OK, before this goes totally cold.

So Pat himself couldn’t recall himself why he was called The Quiet Man. I can’t ever recall him ever being called that until the biography with that title came out. When it appeared it confused me among others who had seen him and knew him. The explanation I was given by Simon Pia was that he a bit taciturn in interviews, nothing to do with his on field demeanour.





What I meant was I didn’t see Pat Stanton play when he was a youngster so that puts us both in the same boat. ..and yes, I’ve read things about Stanton probably the same as you. When I said he was “a bit of a nutter” it was maybe
stretching things a bit. What I did read was that he was a bit “overenthusiastic” as a youngster and had to be told to “calm down”.
Can’t remember where but I most definitely have that recollection. As to the rest of your post, well you’re a radge as well as me if you think others are the only ones capable of flying of the handle. And as you didn’t see him in the 60’s either you cannot say for certain if he played any games, however few, at fullback or not. Players are given all sorts of experience when they are young and if he played at wing-half/outside right there is every chance he played the odd game at full-back. I can’t verify that but can recall “reading it”.



Yes, Billy. My first Hibs game was 1968 so saw him play in the vast majority of home games until he was transferred to Celtic
and around 50% of away matches in that period. As laddies we had our favourite spot down on the wall in line with the 18 yard line at the slope and watched as Pat regularly talked John Brownlie (a teenager at the time remember) through games. Talked, not ranted or shouted or moaned, talked. He certainly never restricted himself to “pointing” which is just an image in all our memories. No one could “point” their way through a career as Hibs captain. He was also in a position to talk the defence through certain situations and I saw him communicate with defenders many, many times. When Stein signed him for Celtic it was for two things, for Pat’s presence as a player on the park and to give Roy Aitkin and Roddy MacDonald their education. No way would that education be communicated by “pointing” at Parkhead.



Model professional yes. If you want to see him as “always a gentleman” he was in a way. There was the time when Rangers
were awarded a goal at ER, which was, typically, off-side and we had a perfect vantages our spot at the wall as Stanton and Blackley ran across to the linesman. I’ll quote Stanton to the best of my memory here “How’s about that for off-side then ya ******ing blind b******”, Blackley joined in, “There’s no point Pat he’s one of them.” Pat - “Aye, a Rangers loving b*******”. The linesman just stared ahead and didn’t move a muscle. Still seems gentlemanly to me, but not very quiet. Gentlemen from Niddrie don't suffer fools gladly.

superfurryhibby will probably accuse me of making things up again but he can go whistle, in the nicest possible spirit. :wink:

Good we are on a level playing field now because I started watching HIBS home and away from 1968

Carlton Branch ya bass !

I agree with your talking not bawling and shouting I would say a small degree of pointing i.e. the opening credits to Sportscene at the time and pointing to players telling them where the ball is going to go ORourkes goal in the League Cup Final springs to mind

https://youtu.be/fX9n4156lsU

I also disagree with your post #24 that he “ was a bit of a nutter and was always in trouble “ no I cannot confirm that he was neither can I remember him ever being a full back

He was quiet for a Captain but led by example and spoke when required

Stein wanted Stanton to shore up his leaking defence and it worked a treat one title and one Scottish Cup

I have known Pat Stanton for twenty years and yes he is a gentleman

[JammyDoidger]

Liked a lot of our captains. For me a captain doesn't always have to be the best player, but puts their body's on the line, runs through brick walls for the team, shows courage and bravery, but is also sensible in being able to manage a game. A step ahead of team mates in this usually, scott brown for example is brilliant at this! Something our current captain Paul Hanlon doesn't do. Sorry to have to bash paul Hanlon but him wearing that band really does annoy me:rolleyes:

[Kato]

He was quiet for a Captain but led by example and spoke when required

Then we are agreeing to disagree on that, unless "when required" is throughout games. As I said as an example, very vocal when coaching Brownlie through matches, telling him when to go forward and when to stay back.


Stein wanted Stanton to shore up his leaking defence....


..and to coach Aitken and MacDonald, something mentioned by Stein himself. More than just one dimension to Stein wanting him.

[BILLYHIBS]

Then we are agreeing to disagree on that, unless "when required" is throughout games. As I said as an example, very vocal when coaching Brownlie through matches, telling him when to go forward and when to stay back.




..and to coach Aitken and MacDonald, something mentioned by Stein himself. More than just one dimension to Stein wanting him.
Did you check out the pointing on the vid? 😃

[Kato]

Did you check out the pointing on the vid? 😃

:wink: He was a great pointer. Never disputed the fact that he could point.


However one micro-second doesn't describe his whole career as Hibs captain or the his entire method of communicating on the park.

[BILLYHIBS]

:wink: He was a great pointer. Never disputed the fact that he could point.


However one micro-second doesn't describe his whole career as Hibs captain or the his entire method of communicating on the park.
Nor does being a nutter on or off the field and was always in trouble which never ever happened

Pretty sure I read somewhere he got to the final of a cup at Bonnyrigg Rose and was their guest of honour at Tinycastle when we played them there in the Scottish Cup

[Kato]

Nor does being a nutter on or off the field and was always in trouble which never ever happened


I qualified those remarks in my 1st post on this thread today if you cared to read it properly. :cb

[BILLYHIBS]

I qualified those remarks in my 1st post on this thread today if you cared to read it properly. :cb
I did read it

Boils my piss posters that do not read the whole thread 😃

[Kato]

I did read it

Boils my piss posters that do not read the whole thread [emoji2]Thanks for pointing that out.

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[BILLYHIBS]

Thanks for pointing that out.

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Agree with your post # 60

Will dig out the Quiet Man tomorrow to see if it sheds any light on why Simon Pia would choose to call him that

[Kato]

Agree with your post # 60

Will dig out the Quiet Man tomorrow to see if it sheds any light on why Simon Pia would choose to call him thatMy copy is in it's own version of lockdown as I'm doing some ongoing DIY. Will hunt it out when I'm done. As far as I remember it didn't do the guy justice.

Tommy Docherty knew the score.

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[BILLYHIBS]

My copy is in it's own version of lockdown as I'm doing some ongoing DIY. Will hunt it out when I'm done. As far as I remember it didn't do the guy justice.

Tommy Docherty knew the score.

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Yip said he was better than Bobby Moore

[Kato]

Yip correctly said he was better than Bobby Moore

Fixed

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