Saturday's game likely to be behind closed doors

[FilipinoHibs]

Government moving to delay phase,restricting large public gatherings.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-uk-action-plan-poised-for-social-distancing-phase?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Email

[neil7908]

Going to be some very strange times ahead.

[Since452]

Football very secondary for me at the moment. I wouldn't be going or taking my family on Saturday anyway. People need to use common and try and slow down the spread.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Schools are shut here, businesses are closing, events are cancelled and football behind closed doors, employees that can work from home should and so on.

I believe the UK will very soon follow.

[green day]

Government moving to delay phase,restricting large public gatherings.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-uk-action-plan-poised-for-social-distancing-phase?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Email

Bit unfair this, as a closed doors match with no fans will feel just like a home game for St J, Hamilton etc etc:greengrin

Although............if it helps hamilton:wink:

[BILLYHIBS]

Budgies last throw o t dice

Plan C = get the season cancelled :greengrin

[EAZY-ME]

We will just have to go panic buying toilet roll instead

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Hearts will still claim another full house at Tynecastle if this happens.

[Pretty Boy]

It wouldn't surprise me if the announcement says the measures come into effect as of Sunday. They'll dress it up as logistics and say it's to give businesses time to prepare.

[green day]

It wouldn't surprise me if the announcement says the measures come into effect as of Sunday. They'll dress it up as logistics and say it's to give businesses time to prepare.

Read the article myself earlier and it seems to state that they will talk to Labour later today, draft up legislation and pass it on Monday.

So (pure speculation on my part) I think Saturday will be fine but they will prep us all for Monday (so those of us with kids at school can make arrangements etc).

[lapsedhibee]

Budgies last throw o t dice

Plan C = get the season cancelled :greengrin

If this happens the SPL will introduce a variation of the Duckworth-Lewis-Stern method to decide final placings. Points for all the bottom six teams will be recalculated on the basis that they get six points for every win against a top six side and no points for a win against a bottom six side. And ten points for a draw against Aberdeen. Or something like that. Will be known as " The Jammy ******* " variation.

[Greenworld]

If this happens the SPL will introduce a variation of the Duckworth-Lewis-Stern method to decide final placings. Points for all the bottom six teams will be recalculated on the basis that they get six points for every win against a top six side and no points for a win against a bottom six side. And ten points for a draw against Aberdeen. Or something like that. Will be known as " The Jammy ******* " variation.Interesting solution LOL. I prefer the current standings apply solution off you pop hearts

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[FilipinoHibs]

Read the article myself earlier and it seems to state that they will talk to Labour later today, draft up legislation and pass it on Monday.

So (pure speculation on my part) I think Saturday will be fine but they will prep us all for Monday (so those of us with kids at school can make arrangements etc).

I don't think the government will hang around and let another weekend of mass gatherings. Wuhan was in lockdown with the cases we have in the UK now with a regional population about the same as the UK.

[flash]

Each to their own but I ain't going. I might end up with it anyway but it's my responsibility to lessen the chance as much as I can.

[Squealing pig]

Hope this game gets played in front of crowd but don’t care if the rest r but team needs the support this weekend for top 6

[wpj]

We will just have to go panic buying toilet roll instead

I'm sure Levein will have a couple of rolls of vintage andrex from 1986 somewhere.

[GloryGlory]

Interesting solution LOL. I prefer the current standings apply solution off you pop hearts

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Just declare every game between now and the end of the season is a draw. :greengrin

[Steven79]

Just declare every game between now and the end of the season is a draw. :greengrin[emoji23]

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[sauzee=legend]

Chances of this weekend being behind closed doors won’t happen in my eyes... that means The Rangers v Celtic would need to be behind closed doors too.
So got the feeling this weekend will go ahead with fans but then come Monday there will be announcement made from the sfa.
This is just IMO.

[danhibees1875]

If this happens the SPL will introduce a variation of the Duckworth-Lewis-Stern method to decide final placings. Points for all the bottom six teams will be recalculated on the basis that they get six points for every win against a top six side and no points for a win against a bottom six side. And ten points for a draw against Aberdeen. Or something like that. Will be known as " The Jammy ******* " variation.

That's fine, we'll be a bottom 6 side by that point so Hearts are done for. :greengrin

[Blaster]

Each to their own but I ain't going. I might end up with it anyway but it's my responsibility to lessen the chance as much as I can.

And who will I have to disagree with this week then 😂😂

[flash]

And who will I have to disagree with this week then 😂😂

I think we tend to agree mostly these days scary as that sounds.

[pacoluna]

Just ban anyone who's over 70 from attending.

[Green Badger]

Chances of this weekend being behind closed doors won’t happen in my eyes... that means The Rangers v Celtic would need to be behind closed doors too.
So got the feeling this weekend will go ahead with fans but then come Monday there will be announcement made from the sfa.
This is just IMO.

Maybe if the decision was purely an SFA/SPFL one then I'd tend to agree with you, however I doubt the Government would even consider this a factor in any decision.

[Steven79]

Just ban anyone who's over 70 from attending.Yeah because it's only people that are over 70 that are at risk...

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[pacoluna]

Yeah because it's only people that are over 70 that are at risk...

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Of dying, yes. Over 70s should just self isolate for a month.

[Steven79]

Of dying, yes.So nobody under 70 has underlying health problems that could lead them to dying due to this virus?



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[pacoluna]

So nobody under 70 has underlying health problems that could lead them to dying due to this virus?



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Those with underlying health conditions should also self isolate.

[Blaster]

I think we tend to agree mostly these days scary as that sounds.

Haha very true 👍

[Captain Trips]

Please it is serious stuff but just to lighten it in a way if thats possible I see Hibs are taking training as normal down at East mains:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/58/19/115819943257d923e16bc417ec58fcc4.jpg

[Pretty Boy]

Just ban anyone who's over 70 from attending.

What about those under 70 who become infected and pass it on in other settings?

A lot of vulnerable older people rely on their families for basic provisions. If their family get ill they run the risk of either passing it on or leaving elderly relatives short of essentials.

[Steven79]

Please it is serious stuff but just to lighten it in a way if thats possible I see Hibs are taking training as normal down at East mains:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/58/19/115819943257d923e16bc417ec58fcc4.jpgIs that the away strip for next season? [emoji106]

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[500miles]

Scottish football will struggle to pay players without crowd income. I'm happy to pay to watch online per game if it can be organized in these exceptional circumstances.

[Blaster]

Scottish football will struggle to pay players without crowd income. I'm happy to pay to watch online per game if it can be organized in these exceptional circumstances.

I guess that’s where having a higher percentage of season tickets helps a bit

[pacoluna]

What about those under 70 who become infected and pass it on in other settings?

A lot of vulnerable older people rely on their families for basic provisions. If their family get ill they run the risk of either passing it on or leaving elderly relatives short of essentials.

How will provisions be provided? Shops,supermarkets will all have had more than thousands of customers per day, touching different items.

[Keith_M]

If their game is played behind closed doors, The Rangers will probably play some traditional flute music, plus extracts from Last Night of The Proms, to add some atmosphere.

[Heisenberg]

Might be on this weekend but don’t see them lasting much longer without being played behind closed doors.

[Ozyhibby]

Of dying, yes. Over 70s should just self isolate for a month.

Because they are all so self sufficient?[emoji849]


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[Tambo]

I'm happy to travel up tomorrow so I hope the game is on, Aberdeen away to motherwell tomorrow night so a decision must be made asap.

[500miles]

I guess that’s where having a higher percentage of season tickets helps a bit

Definitely, but even if it's 15 quid a screen for each game, I think it's worth it to keep the clubs going, and definitely a time for clubs to come together.

[Keith_M]

Definitely, but even if it's 15 quid a screen for each game, I think it's worth it to keep the clubs going, and definitely a time for clubs to come together.


Season Ticket holders get the screening for free, surely.

[500miles]

Season Ticket holders get the screening for free, surely.

Discounted maybe. Keeping in mind you'll have a house full of people able to watch.

I'd point out that I'd rather Euro 2020 was cancelled and we played through summer.

[superfurryhibby]

How will provisions be provided? Shops,supermarkets will all have had more than thousands of customers per day, touching different items.

Exactly, total hysteria.

Every year there are bout of very virulent viruses, like Noro Virus or the Flu. Vulnerable people can die from these too, yet somehow life carries on.

[500miles]

Exactly, total hysteria.

Every year there are bout of very virulent viruses, like Noro Virus or the Flu. Vulnerable people can die from these too, yet somehow life carries on.

When contracted, coronavirus has proven to be over 100 times more deadly, so if we allow it to spread like flu, the death rate will hike.

[flash]

Exactly, total hysteria.

Every year there are bout of very virulent viruses, like Noro Virus or the Flu. Vulnerable people can die from these too, yet somehow life carries on.

Hysteria from who exactly?

[marinello59]

Hysteria from who exactly?

Exactly. People have remained remarkably calm. Well apart from a few people aggressively declaring we have nothing to worry about. :greengrin

[Speedway]

Taking our recent home games into account, a closed-doors game may significantly enhance the atmosphere at the match.

[FilipinoHibs]

Exactly, total hysteria.

Every year there are bout of very virulent viruses, like Noro Virus or the Flu. Vulnerable people can die from these too, yet somehow life carries on.

Worst case estimates are that 80% of the world's population could catch. Spreads much faster than other viruses and death rate is 4%. Stock markets have fallen 20%+ ; US interest rates loweredd to all time low; and right wing governments pumping billions into economies to keep them afloat. This is serious.

[pacoluna]

Because they are all so self sufficient?[emoji849]


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Well they will have to because we will all be in self isolation within a couple of weeks.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Is that the away strip for next season? [emoji106]

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the yellow strips will only be worn in games v heartz



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[Steven79]

the yellow strips will only be worn in games v heartz



[emoji50]We won't be playing them next season unless it's in a cup. [emoji6]

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[pacoluna]

Worst case estimates are that 80% of the world's population could catch. Spreads much faster than other viruses and death rate is 4%. Stock markets have fallen 20%+ ; US interest rates loweredd to all time low; and right wing governments pumping billions into economies to keep them afloat. This is serious.

If our government wasn't so infactuated with our economy, We would be in a much better situation rite now and things would have been put in place already.. It's all about self interest at the top, now that they are realising it's effecting the rich.

[cabbageandribs1875]

We won't be playing them next season unless it's in a cup. [emoji6]

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oops, i forgot about their present predicament 😅

[Steven79]

oops, i forgot about their present predicament [emoji28]It's a shame isn't it. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[Hibbyradge]

We won't be playing them next season unless it's in a cup. [emoji6]

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We might be, unfortunately.

[Greenworld]

We won't be playing them next season unless it's in a cup. [emoji6]

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[007]

Have it behind closed doors but with just the singing section in the FFL.

[Hibbyradge]

Exactly, total hysteria.

Every year there are bout of very virulent viruses, like Noro Virus or the Flu. Vulnerable people can die from these too, yet somehow life carries on.

When did you last hear of countries being completely locked down or travel from Europe to the USA being banned?

[EI255]

Football very secondary for me at the moment. I wouldn't be going or taking my family on Saturday anyway. People need to use common and try and slow down the spread.100% correct.

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[H18S NX]

The govt still not taking it seriously enough,flights into Edinburgh from Italy still not being tested for covid 19.

[Andy.1875]

Discounted maybe. Keeping in mind you'll have a house full of people able to watch.

I'd point out that I'd rather Euro 2020 was cancelled and we played through summer.

A lot of players from various clubs will be out of contract at the end of the season and may not wish to stay on to play Summer games.

[CallumLaidlaw]

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[Smartie]

The govt still not taking it seriously enough,flights into Edinburgh from Italy still not being tested for covid 19.

I don’t really understand this - how can Italy be in lockdown yet have flights going to Edinburgh?

[Weir07]

Not going to football match because 36 people in Scotland have a virus, something like 0.000007% of the population. Crazy times.

[Del Boy]

I don’t really understand this - how can Italy be in lockdown yet have flights going to Edinburgh?

Seems like madness

[660]

Not going to football match because 36 people in Scotland have a virus, something like 0.000007% of the population. Crazy times.

It's called exponential growth ffs

[Gloucester Hibs]

Not going to football match because 36 people in Scotland have a virus, something like 0.000007% of the population. Crazy times.

Think it will be a lot more than that tbh. It doesn't seem particularly easy to get tested for the virus?

[superfurryhibby]

Hysteria from who exactly?


https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

From people claiming the death rate is c4%, when it is actually c1.4%, , around 0.6 higher than the death rate caused by flu.

[superfurryhibby]

Think it will be a lot more than that tbh. It doesn't seem particularly easy to get tested for the virus?

Why would you need tested if you don’t have it?

[Gloucester Hibs]

Why would you need tested if you don’t have it?

Plenty reports of people reporting symptoms to their GPs but tests only being granted for those having returned from Italy or the Far East.

[superfurryhibby]

Plenty reports of people reporting symptoms to their GPs but tests only being granted for those having returned from Italy or the Far East.

Oh, I can well imagine. Reporting symptoms like the common cold etc. I had a cold last week, I had just returned from Spain. My two youngest boys were just recovering from a cold. It crossed my mind, briefly.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Oh, I can well imagine. Reporting symptoms like the common cold etc. I had a cold last week, I had just returned from Spain. My two youngest boys were just recovering from a cold. It crossed my mind, briefly.

My point is that the number of confirmed cases will be lower than the number of actual cases due to the obstacles being put in place to actually get tested. Not sure if you're disagreeing with this, or just being disingenuous?

[DH1875]

Why would you need tested if you don’t have it?

Lots of people with symptoms aren't being tested and are just being to to stay at home.

[Hibbyradge]

Not going to football match because 36 people in Scotland have a virus, something like 0.000007% of the population. Crazy times.

Google "Exponential growth".

[Hibbyradge]

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

From people claiming the death rate is c4%, when it is actually c1.4%, , around 0.6 higher than the death rate caused by flu.

So nearly twice as deadly, so far.

[Bristolhibby]

Think it will be a lot more than that tbh. It doesn't seem particularly easy to get tested for the virus?

Correct. My wife is a teacher and one of her department colleagues went home looking like death. All the symptoms of Covid-19 but because he has not been to or been in contact with anyone from infected areas he’s not getting tested. We have no idea how many people like him are about.

He has followed advise and has self isolated. At home on his own shivering away with a fever.

Part of it is actually rationing the testing kits. There’s patently not enough to go round and test everyone.

Kids all still at school. Wife still at work.

J

[superfurryhibby]

Lots of people with symptoms aren't being tested and are just being to to stay at home.

So, probably mostly people like me who had the common cold, with a mild temperature for a couple of days?

I hope the military are geared up for delivering personal care to the elderly and doing shifts in nursing homes. I work in a sector which has contact with the vulnerable 1.4 % or so of our population. Hysteria will probably cause more deaths through negligent care than the actual virus, you know the slow dehydration of people who can’t get the support they need because everyone will be self-isolating.

[hibbyfraelibby]

When did you last hear of countries being completely locked down or travel from Europe to the USA being banned?

1941?

[500miles]

A lot of players from various clubs will be out of contract at the end of the season and may not wish to stay on to play Summer games.

The whole thing requires everyone to work together and generally not be tossers like Kamberi.

[danhibees1875]

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

From people claiming the death rate is c4%, when it is actually c1.4%, , around 0.6 higher than the death rate caused by flu.

Maybe I missed the part of the article you've taken that from but the death rate part just says there were 2 older studies done, one said 2.3% and the other said 1.4% and you seem to have just taken the lower one.

As far as I can see to date there has been 4,717 deaths from 127,827 cases - that's 3.7%.

The flu is 0.1%, so that is 37 times worse than the flu.

Of course, there will be people with mild symptoms not included in the total cases that could lower that 3.7% (you'd assume the same could be said of the flu to lower it's 0.1%).

We might never know for sure, but as far as I can see the best estimate from people would seem to be more in the 3-4% region.

It's worth taking proactive measures now if that's the advice.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Exactly, total hysteria.

Every year there are bout of very virulent viruses, like Noro Virus or the Flu. Vulnerable people can die from these too, yet somehow life carries on.

Unbelievable Jeff!

[pacoluna]

Google "Exponential growth".

The more people who have been exposed to the virus means that their immunity will lower the subsequent rate of spread meaning exponentially it won't keep growing at the same rate.

[MacGruber]

Not going to football match because 36 people in Scotland have a virus, something like 0.000007% of the population. Crazy times.

If you fold paper in half 42 times it would reach from here to the moon.

[660]

The more people who have been exposed to the virus means that their immunity will lower the subsequent rate of spread meaning exponentially it won't keep growing at the same rate.

Only once it reaches an inflection point, up until that point the growth will be exponential.

[superfurryhibby]

Maybe I missed the part of the article you've taken that from but the death rate part just says there were 2 older studies done, one said 2.3% and the other said 1.4% and you seem to have just taken the lower one.

As far as I can see to date there has been 4,717 deaths from 127,827 cases - that's 3.7%.

The flu is 0.1%, so that is 37 times worse than the flu.

Of course, there will be people with mild symptoms not included in the total cases that could lower that 3.7% (you'd assume the same could be said of the flu to lower it's 0.1%).

We might never know for sure, but as far as I can see the best estimate from people would seem to be more in the 3-4% region.

It's worth taking proactive measures now if that's the advice.


The post was deleted.

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

So, statistics, damn lies and statistics.


Unbelievable Jeff!

What the Dickens.l....another quality contribution, lol.

[Hibbyradge]

The more people who have been exposed to the virus means that their immunity will lower the subsequent rate of spread meaning exponentially it won't keep growing at the same rate.

Eventually, but that's likely to be months away and some are suggesting it won't happen till next year.

This is merely the embryonic start of the UK pandemic.

A lot of people we know will die before this thing retreats.

[FilipinoHibs]

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

From people claiming the death rate is c4%, when it is actually c1.4%, , around 0.6 higher than the death rate caused by flu.

Of those globally tested positively, 3.7% have died. In italy it is 7%. There may well be more cases and more deaths not covered by this data but this is the best we have. Looks to spread 2 to 3 times faster than the flu.

[JXM73]

If you fold paper in half 42 times it would reach from here to the moon.

Surely folding in half it gets smaller?

[Weir07]

Google "Exponential growth".

Thanks, will do mate. Perhaps you could Google Sars, Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease and all the other health scares over the years and see how the expert predictions stacked up against the actual outcome. Maybe learning from history is a useful way to make balanced decisions.

[Heisenberg]

Sturgeon says she expects a sharp rise in number of cases today with further evidence of “community transmission”.

[JimBHibees]

It wouldn't surprise me if the announcement says the measures come into effect as of Sunday. They'll dress it up as logistics and say it's to give businesses time to prepare.

I think after the old firm game on Sunday.

[Green Man]

From SNP Twitter:

FM: "The Health Secretary and I have decided this morning that we are minded that we will advise the cancellation, from the start of next week, of mass gatherings of 500 people or more." #FMQs

Suggests that this weekend’s games are likely to go ahead as normal, unless there’s a rapid change of mind.

[LaMotta]

First Minister says advice is to cancel all mass gatherings of over 500 people from the start of next week.

Assuming the football goes ahead as usual this weekend then.

[malcolm]

Eventually, but that's likely to be months away and some are suggesting it won't happen till next year.

This is merely the embryonic start of the UK pandemic.

A lot of people we know will die before this thing retreats.

mmm a lot maybe or may be not. You are speculating not stating fact. The most vulnerable are expected be those considerably older than you but while we don’t know what the mortality will be we also don’t know if warmer weather might slow the viability of the virus or if it may undergo less dangerous mutations. In general evolution may show it is not a benefit to an organism to kill off its host as it then limits its spread.

[Jones28]

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

From people claiming the death rate is c4%, when it is actually c1.4%, , around 0.6 higher than the death rate caused by flu.

Just google what’s happening in Italy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538

You don’t need twitter to read the thread.

[matty_f]

Thanks, will do mate. Perhaps you could Google Sars, Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease and all the other health scares over the years and see how the expert predictions stacked up against the actual outcome. Maybe learning from history is a useful way to make balanced decisions.

Probably worth taking that advice yourself to understand why and how this is different.

[Diclonius]

So the rest of the season will be behind closed doors.

That ends the debate about whether we should or shouldn't go to the semi final. :wink:

[Jones28]

Thanks, will do mate. Perhaps you could Google Sars, Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease and all the other health scares over the years and see how the expert predictions stacked up against the actual outcome. Maybe learning from history is a useful way to make balanced decisions.

Attitudes like this will see the NHS grind to a near halt when it takes hold in the next few weeks.

This isn’t panicking, this is taking sensible precautions to prevent our health care system collapsing under the weight of idiots who didn’t take basic measures and resulting in deaths of people who would have been at risk under normal circumstances.

[Hibbyradge]

Just google what’s happening in Italy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538

You don’t need twitter to read the thread.

That's terrifying.

[Billy]

A site here which gives numbers and locations of areas. This includes recovery numbers.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3bYYTIqJ85OZUCr9fv1XnUmwumSw Yblz3opmX3n_y_37qrPul0bixZ-60#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[Curried]

A site here which gives numbers and locations of areas. This includes recovery numbers.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3bYYTIqJ85OZUCr9fv1XnUmwumSw Yblz3opmX3n_y_37qrPul0bixZ-60#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


That's a pretty cool mapping site. Interestingly, there are no reported cases as yet in Russia.

[Roxyhibee]

Thanks, will do mate. Perhaps you could Google Sars, Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease and all the other health scares over the years and see how the expert predictions stacked up against the actual outcome. Maybe learning from history is a useful way to make balanced decisions.

Think you need to think a lot more before making ignorant public comments mate. This is clearly going to have a huge potential impact on lives, families, economy and vital everyday public services.

When the normally machismo fuelled Yanks and Trump are taking extreme national precautionary measures, you should know we are witnessing something quite different from the events you haphazardly threw together above.

Stay safe.

[London Hibs FC]

That's a pretty cool mapping site. Interestingly, there are no reported cases as yet in Russia.

28 cases in Russia.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

That's a pretty cool mapping site. Interestingly, there are no reported cases as yet in Russia.

I read it as 28 in Russia, you know where it is, yeah?

[Coco Bryce]

Going by that site. Turkey is the safest place for the summer holidays this year.

[lapsedhibee]

Thanks, will do mate. Perhaps you could Google Sars, Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease and all the other health scares over the years and see how the expert predictions stacked up against the actual outcome. Maybe learning from history is a useful way to make balanced decisions.

You know "history" started before 1920, right? :dunno:

[Oscar T Grouch]

Attitudes like this will see the NHS grind to a near halt when it takes hold in the next few weeks.

This isn’t panicking, this is taking sensible precautions to prevent our health care system collapsing under the weight of idiots who didn’t take basic measures and resulting in deaths of people who would have been at risk under normal circumstances.

:agree: We need to take precautions to flatten the bell curve of this virus, like all viruses it will take hold across the population, the faster it does that the more strain is put on health services. For example, I am in a high risk group, if/when I catch covid19 there is a 20% chance of me getting further complications that would require hospital treatment and possible connection to a ventilator. If this spreads too quickly the NHS will need to decide who in the vulnerable groups get the limited number of ventilators in Scotland, essentially they will need to choose who will live and who will die. If we flatten the bell curve by using preventative measures the vulnerable among us won't be waiting in a queue to get life saving equipment.

[Jones28]

:agree: We need to take precautions to flatten the bell curve of this virus, like all viruses it will take hold across the population, the faster it does that the more strain is put on health services. For example, I am in a high risk group, if/when I catch covid19 there is a 20% chance of me getting further complications that would require hospital treatment and possible connection to a ventilator. If this spreads too quickly the NHS will need to decide who in the vulnerable groups get the limited number of ventilators in Scotland, essentially they will need to choose who will live and who will die. If we flatten the bell curve by using preventative measures the vulnerable among us won't be waiting in a queue to get life saving equipment.

Italian doctors are choosing who to treat based on their survival chances. That’s how bad it’s become.

[18Craig75]

The SPFL & TV companies should now come to the sensible decision and allow all Club Tv channels to air their games in the UK live.

Even if games don’t go behind closed doors, some people with colds etc might be more inclined to stay at home.

[Callum_62]

Going by that site. Turkey is the safest place for the summer holidays this year.Let's hope it stays this way from a total selfish point of view

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[Keith_M]

Let's hope it stays this way from a total selfish point of view

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I'm not convinced all countries will be releasing accurate info, especially dictatorships like Turkey and Russia.

[Weegreenman]

I think people need to make up their own minds whether they will attend this weekend’s game. I’ll be playing it on the safe side and giving it a miss.

It’s just not worth the risk.

[GloryGlory]

I think people need to make up their own minds whether they will attend this weekend’s game. I’ll be playing it on the safe side and giving it a miss.

It’s just not worth the risk.

As an older person with underlying health conditions, I'll be missing it, too.

[DaveF]

If it's on, I'll go. If the advice is not to go, then I won't.

By the looks of things I'll have a row to myself anyway.

[matty_f]

If it's on, I'll go. If the advice is not to go, then I won't.

By the looks of things I'll have a row to myself anyway.

I'll make sure not to sneeze in your direction :greengrin

[lapsedhibee]

If it's on, I'll go. If the advice is not to go, then I won't.

By the looks of things I'll have a row to myself anyway.

But people cough and sneeze forwards, so it's a column to yourself you want.

[pacoluna]

I think people need to make up their own minds whether they will attend this weekend’s game. I’ll be playing it on the safe side and giving it a miss.

It’s just not worth the risk.

I'm sure plenty would take your ticket for the game, better than wasting it.

[18Craig75]

I plan to relocate to the FF Lower given there should be far less people in there than else where in the stadium 😂

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

If it's on, I'll go. If the advice is not to go, then I won't.

By the looks of things I'll have a row to myself anyway.

I'll be there Dave. Though any coughing and I'll be moving a few seats along. 👍

[GloryGlory]

But people cough and sneeze forwards, so it's a column to yourself you want.

It's not just being next to someone coughing and sneezing, though. The virus can live for 48-72 hours on hard surfaces, so touching hand rails, doors, seats, toilet seats, taps etc could lead to the virus being transmitted.

[lapsedhibee]

It's not just being next to someone coughing and sneezing, though. The virus can live for 48-72 hours on hard surfaces, so touching hand rails, doors, seats, toilet seats, taps etc could lead to the virus being transmitted.

Are there accepted figures yet for ability to survive on surfaces/inside of clothing elbows etc? I get a newspaper delivered and currently don't touch it until it's at least 7 days old. Should I wait longer? :dunno:

[Phil MaGlass]

If you fold paper in half 42 times it would reach from here to the moon.

should that not be unfold

[scooby]

Eventually, but that's likely to be months away and some are suggesting it won't happen till next year.

This is merely the embryonic start of the UK pandemic.

A lot of people we know will die before this thing retreats.

Let's be clear, it's only going to kill those who unfortunately have underlying health issues, everyone else will have mild symptoms.

[flash]

Let's be clear, it's only going to kill those who unfortunately have underlying health issues, everyone else will have mild symptoms.

Let's be even clearer. That's not true.

[Hibernian Verse]

It's not just being next to someone coughing and sneezing, though. The virus can live for 48-72 hours on hard surfaces, so touching hand rails, doors, seats, toilet seats, taps etc could lead to the virus being transmitted.Where are you seeing that? 12 hours is the advice my company has been given.

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[Andy.1875]

Are there accepted figures yet for ability to survive on surfaces/inside of clothing elbows etc? I get a newspaper delivered and currently don't touch it until it's at least 7 days old. Should I wait longer? :dunno:

Depends on the newspaper. Some I would never touch! https://www.hibs.net/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhDwAPANEAAP///729vVn/yAAAACH/C05FVFNDQVBFMi4wAwEAAAAh/sFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnJ0bHNvZnQuY29tL2FuaW1hZ2ljLwoKQ3J lYXRlZCB3aXRoIEFuaW1hZ2ljIEdJRiBWIDEuMjEKYnkgUmlna HQgdG8gTGVmdCBTb2Z0d2FyZSBJbmMuCgpUbyBzdXBwcmVzcyB 0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgaW4gdGhlIHJlZ2lzdGVyZWQgdmVyc2lvb gp1bmNoZWNrICJPcHRpb25zIHwgQW5pbWFnaWMgY29tbWVudCB mcmFtZSIKACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD2Zx5EC4WIjW nmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOYw9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhbbtSF3OB cplQpqrqlADC88Ju6M023G86nZRzD Uot2SiDUmAomsik4VA1CgAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiI1p5qnhSD7RJYfh p1/koqrpVAwC8sOy6MxzP7Xb3rsOT5X7AFo7zAbUUGIqp08ioGgUA IfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYkM8WcfJ0nbtRK KoVeNpZcqqpBYADHAMqy9d166M41ko49F odTsAiqyJI1LZNJwrBoFACH5BAkeAAEALAAAAAAPAA8AAAI6jD 2Zx5EC4WIjWnmqeFIPtElh GnX SiqulUDALyw7LozHM/tdveuw5PlfsAWjvMBtRQYiqnTyKgaBQAh QQJHgABACwAAAAADwAPAAACOow9mceRAuFiQzxZx8nSdu1Eoqh V42llyqqkFgAMcAyrL13XrozjWSjj0X6h1OwCKrIkjUtk0nCsG gUAIfkECR4AAQAsAAAAAA8ADwAAAjqMPZnHkQLhYiNaeap4Ug 0SWH4adf5KKq6VQMAvLDsujMcz 12967Dk V wBaO8wG1FBiKqdPIqBoFADs=

[Barney McGrew]

Let's be clear, it's only going to kill those who unfortunately have underlying health issues, everyone else will have mild symptoms.

Misinformation that like is half the problem.

[ABZHFC]

Can we do something special for Saturday, seeing as it will probably be the last game we see Hibs play for a while? I'm thinking a full-time pitchy :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

[green day]

Can we do something special for Saturday, seeing as it will probably be the last game we see Hibs play for a while? I'm thinking a full-time pitchy :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

Getting drunk, hopefully - normally drive so it will be special for me :thumbsup:

[scooby]

Let's be even clearer. That's not true.

With three months of data, though, it appears that around 80 percent of people who are infected have a mild or moderate illness, around 15 percent have severe disease (which requires hospitalization), and around 5 percent are critical (and go into respiratory or organ failure). Around 3 percent of people with confirmed cases of the infection in China died, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

[jeffers]

Getting drunk, hopefully - normally drive so it will be special for me :thumbsup:

I take it you mean you are having a drink instead of taking the car, not you are getting drunk then driving !

[scooby]

Getting drunk, hopefully - normally drive so it will be special for me :thumbsup:

Alcohol is especially effective against the virus, so a few whiskies will do you no harm.

[Just Alf]

With three months of data, though, it appears that around 80 percent of people who are infected have a mild or moderate illness, around 15 percent have severe disease (which requires hospitalization), and around 5 percent are critical (and go into respiratory or organ failure). Around 3 percent of people with confirmed cases of the infection in China died, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).All well and good, the whole point lots of us are trying to make, of those cases that are severe, if the infection is spread out over a longer time period by you/me/everyone taking precautions then the NHS will be able to cope much better cope leading to less deaths.



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[marinello59]

Mass gatherings over from Monday
Any symptoms ( fever or a persistent cough) means 7 days self isolation from tomorrow.

[Just Alf]

Alcohol is especially effective against the virus, so a few whiskies will do you no harm.Now THAT I do like! :greengrin

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[Gloucester Hibs]

All well and good, the whole point lots of us are trying to make, of those cases that are severe, if the infection is spread out over a longer time period by you/me/everyone taking precautions then the NHS will be able to cope much better cope leading to less deaths.



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Correct. "Flattening the bell curve" as an earlier boffin described it.

[hibby6270]

Scottish Government has just announced meetings or events with more than 500 people to be banned from next Monday.

Game still on on Saturday?

[Tambo]

Mass gatherings over from Monday
Any symptoms ( fever or a persistent cough) means 7 days self isolation from tomorrow.

So our game is fine for fans to go to?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Alcohol is especially effective against the virus, so a few whiskies will do you no harm.

I’m at hospitality so defo plan on that


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[GloryGlory]

Where are you seeing that? 12 hours is the advice my company has been given.

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I've seen different scientists quoting these figure. The normal flu virus can live 24-48 hours - this is worse. Some studies say it could last for up to 9 days - depending on temperature, humidity, etc.

https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/health/your-health/how-long-does-coronavirus-live

[scooby]

All well and good, the whole point lots of us are trying to make, of those cases that are severe, if the infection is spread out over a longer time period by you/me/everyone taking precautions then the NHS will be able to cope much better cope leading to less deaths.



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I agree completely, the point I'm trying to make is that the vast majority of people will only have mild symptoms.

[matty_f]

The league should be allowing/encouraging all the clubs to stream their games on their own channels at the weekend.

[Billy Whizz]

So I’m presuming, Saturday’s game is on for fans, and Hamilton a week on Saturday will be unlikely?

[660]

So I’m presuming, Saturday’s game is on for fans, and Hamilton a week on Saturday will be unlikely?

Hamilton will be behind closed doors

[JimBHibees]

Hamilton will be behind closed doors

I thought they were being cancelled.

[.Sean.]

From a totally selfish point of view my wee brother is one of the mascots so for that reason alone, and and suppose the fact it’s watching Hibs and a few pints, I’ll certainly be there.

[CallumLaidlaw]

I thought they were being cancelled.

That’ll be a decision for the SPFL


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[plhibs]

Just been on the news here, all N.H.L. officials have been told to go home, means the games are all going to be cancelled by the looks of things.

[Hi Heid Yin]

Hearts will still claim another full house at Tynecastle if this happens.

:tee hee::tee hee:

[wallpaperman]

If the game is to go ahead on Saturday, how about opening the South to Hibs fans (apart from small St Johnstone section), make a big thing of it, and sell tickets for £5 each and fill the place?

Could be the last time any of us see the boys for a while.

I’m sure almost all of us who already have tickets wouldn’t object to filling the stands at a cheap price, and get right behind the team from all sides of the stadium.

[green day]

Hamilton will be behind closed doors

This is in line with what I have heard from a good source.

Not as yet nailed, but looking likely.

[Power]

Unprecedented times.

Hibs are working hard - as all businesses are up and down the country - to keep ticking on and Saturday will be played as expected in front of a Football crowd.
The guidance issued by the government today (large scale events), which will get firmed up to instructions, will change everything next week (still early days to know what that looks like in full - impacts, consequences and next steps). Club will issue comprehensive and transparent communications to the full support once more is understood and known.

[The 90+2]

Unprecedented times.

Hibs are working hard - as all businesses are up and down the country - to keep ticking on and Saturday will be played as expected in front of a Football crowd.
The guidance issued by the government today (large scale events), which will get firmed up to instructions, will change everything next week (still early days to know what that looks like in full - impacts, consequences and next steps). Club will issue comprehensive and transparent communications to the full support once more is understood and known.

Any chance of emergency hot water in the east with lots of soap and paper towels?

[stuart-farquhar]

Any chance of emergency hot water in the east with lots of soap and paper towels?

That's a serious point. Frankly ridiculous that we have freezing water and paper towels out by half-time.

Is there hot water elswhere in the stadium for use by spectators, Directors box occupants as a random example?

[hibbyfraelibby]

That's a serious point. Frankly ridiculous that we have freezing water and paper towels out by half-time.

Is there hot water elswhere in the stadium for use by spectators, Directors box occupants as a random example?

Dont know how many times this has to be repeated you can wash your hands in cold water. To kill the virus using water alone means you'd scald you hands and your skin peel off because it would be too hot.

[Hibbyradge]

Dont know how many times this has to be repeated you can wash your hands in cold water. To kill the virus using water alone means you'd scald you hands and your skin peel off because it would be too hot.

Soap is the key, not the water temperature.

[The 90+2]

Dont know how many times this has to be repeated you can wash your hands in cold water. To kill the virus using water alone means you'd scald you hands and your skin peel off because it would be too hot.

That makes it okay at the beginning of a pandemic there’s no hot water in a stand for a club the size of ours?

[Barney McGrew]

It’s an absolute dereliction of duty from the politicians that the games are going ahead this weekend IMO.

Utter madness. They’re playing with peoples lives FFS.

I’d implore EVERYONE to think twice about going, if not for their own health but for other peoples.

[Power]

Any chance of emergency hot water in the east with lots of soap and paper towels?

Soap and paper towels ✅
emergency hot water - I don’t think so (I notice it’s been a big feedback to previous fans reps in the past - club are aware - but it’s a big operation and costly to implement I believe. On the list of long term stadium improvements).

Thankfully it’s the soap that removes germs from hands, not hot water.

[wallpaperman]

It’s an absolute dereliction of duty from the politicians that the games are going ahead this weekend IMO.

Utter madness. They’re playing with peoples lives FFS.

I’d implore EVERYONE to think twice about going, if not for their own health but for other peoples.

By the end of tomorrow i’ll have been in the office for 35 hours this week, my daughter will have been in school for similar time with hundreds of kids.

Neither of us had any underlying health problems that we are aware of, think we will risk just 90 minutes outside.

[stuart-farquhar]

Soap and paper towels ✅
emergency hot water - I don’t think so (I notice it’s been a big feedback to previous fans reps in the past - club are aware - but it’s a big operation and costly to implement I believe. On the list of long term stadium improvements).

Thankfully it’s the soap that removes germs from hands, not hot water.
Well as long as the whole stadium has freezing cold water thats ok then. It's embarrassing when you take guests. They always comment on it. And the towrls aways are in inadequate supply.

[Pretty Boy]

Surely warm water is still preferable in that it will encourage people to wash their hands properly for the recommended period of time? Let's be honest no one wants to dunk their hands under freezing water to get them wet and then to rinse them thoroughly. Of course it's a small discomfort in the face of an emerging crisis but moving forward it is absolutely something Hibs should be looking to rectify.

[Iggy Pope]

Well as long as the whole stadium has freezing cold water thats ok then. It's embarrassing when you take guests. They always comment on it. And the towrls aways are in inadequate supply.

That’s not the case though.
Where are you taking your “guests” in the stadium and have they been to any football anywhere else?

[wallpaperman]

It's embarrassing when you take guests. They always comment on it. And the towrls aways are in inadequate supply.

Really?

Where do they normally watch their football that this is such an embarrassing faux pas, executive box at The Emirates?

[Barney McGrew]

By the end of tomorrow i’ll have been in the office for 35 hours this week, my daughter will have been in school for similar time with hundreds of kids.

Neither of us had any underlying health problems that we are aware of, think we will risk just 90 minutes outside.

There will be somewhere around 130,000 people attending games in Scotland over the next four days. That’s 130,000 people that have to travel to get there, many on public transport, in close proximity to other people. Some of those people will carry the virus right now. They will pass it on (on average according to the latest figures) to over three more people.

The bottom line is that it’s likely a number of people will catch the virus because these games have been allowed to go ahead.

Its not just about risk to yourself, it’s about the risk to others - particularly the most vulnerable in society.

Hibs as a real community club should be taking the lead in closing this down NOW.

[Captain Trips]

It’s an absolute dereliction of duty from the politicians that the games are going ahead this weekend IMO.

Utter madness. They’re playing with peoples lives FFS.

I’d implore EVERYONE to think twice about going, if not for their own health but for other peoples.

Me going will only possibly affect my health as I do not have it. My 50 mile car journey to Easter Rd is probably more of a risk to me.

[kaimendhibs]

Who cares about the nation. As long as septic and rankers are OK _[emoji35][emoji35]

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[Barney McGrew]

Me going will only possibly affect my health as I do not have it. My 50 mile car journey to Easter Rd is probably more of a risk to me.

With respect, you might not know.

You could quite easily have picked it up in the last week and not yet be showing any symptoms. That’s the issue.

[Iggy Pope]

There will be somewhere around 130,000 people attending games in Scotland over the next four days. That’s 130,000 people that have to travel to get there, many on public transport, in close proximity to other people. Some of those people will carry the virus right now. They will pass it on (on average according to the latest figures) to over three more people.

The bottom line is that it’s likely a number of people will catch the virus because these games have been allowed to go ahead.

Its not just about risk to yourself, it’s about the risk to others - particularly the most vulnerable in society.

Hibs as a real community club should be taking the lead in closing this down NOW.

Half of them in Glasgow. Are you thinking public transport and the like should also be closed off to the other 4million or so in the country not going to the football?

[Captain Trips]

With respect, you might not know.

You could quite easily have picked it up in the last week and not yet be showing any symptoms. That’s the issue.

Well I havent if I did then I would not go. Im not going to stop living and doing stuff because under 100 people in Scotland have virus saying its probably more is nothing more than guesswork. I might have it you say so what should I do? Not go to work? You suggesting even if you have no symptoms to stay in?

What are you doing or done today? You might have it.

[Barney McGrew]

Half of them in Glasgow. Are you thinking public transport and the like should also be closed off to the other 4million or so in the country not going to the football?

I think we should be putting social distancing in place now. People should be getting encouraged to only travel if it’s essential.

And football matches are not essential.

[Iggy Pope]

I think we should be putting social distancing in place now. People should be getting encouraged to only travel if it’s essential.

And football matches are not essential.

What do you deem essential?

[Hiber-nation]

Surely warm water is still preferable in that it will encourage people to wash their hands properly for the recommended period of time? Let's be honest no one wants to dunk their hands under freezing water to get them wet and then to rinse them thoroughly. Of course it's a small discomfort in the face of an emerging crisis but moving forward it is absolutely something Hibs should be looking to rectify.

Absolutely. I don't think anyone would wash their hands in freezing cold water for 20 seconds. Other SPL grounds manage it, why can't we.

[Barney McGrew]

Well I havent if I did then I would not go. Im not going to stop living and doing stuff because under 100 people in Scotland have virus saying its probably more is nothing more than guesswork. I might have it you say so what should I do? Not go to work? You suggesting even if you have no symptoms to stay in?

What are you doing or done today? You might have it.

You’re right, I might. I’ve cancelled practically all my meetings other than a couple that were absolutely essential and even then I took every precaution I could. From tomorrow in I’ll be pretty much working from home full time.

Under 100 people have been confirmed as having it, But that’s different from who actually has it. Given that tests are taking 48 hours to come through, and the numbers are pretty much doubling each day in affected countries as you follow the patterns that means by tomorrow the real number will probably be over 200.

This may be guesswork, but it’s very educated guesswork based on what’s been happening elsewhere.


What do you deem essential?

Thats open to interpretation I guess If it was down to me we’d already be advising people to work from home as much as humanly possible.

[Iggy Pope]

Absolutely. I don't think anyone would wash their hands in freezing cold water for 20 seconds. Other SPL grounds manage it, why can't we.

Cold water is better for the joints and muscles. :wink:

[Hiber-nation]

Cold water is better for the joints and muscles. :wink:

But you are hardcore Stevie :greengrin

[Tambo]

Well I havent if I did then I would not go. Im not going to stop living and doing stuff because under 100 people in Scotland have virus saying its probably more is nothing more than guesswork. I might have it you say so what should I do? Not go to work? You suggesting even if you have no symptoms to stay in?

What are you doing or done today? You might have it.

This is where I am at, i have been at work all week, made trips through public transport etc.

Unless i wake up tomorrow morning feeling different I am on the 11.18 train to waverley.

[Robbo6-2]

It’s an absolute dereliction of duty from the politicians that the games are going ahead this weekend IMO.

Utter madness. They’re playing with peoples lives FFS.

I’d implore EVERYONE to think twice about going, if not for their own health but for other peoples.

This post is exactly whats wrong with the world.

Theres more chance of being run down on the way to the stadium than dying of corona virus. Get a grip

[Hibbyradge]

Absolutely. I don't think anyone would wash their hands in freezing cold water for 20 seconds. Other SPL grounds manage it, why can't we.

I would wash my hands in cold water rather than risk putting a coronavirus in my eyes or mouth, tbh.

In any case, most of the 20 seconds is spent rubbing the soap in between your fingers and under the nails etc so they're only under the water for a few seconds.

Surely that's a little discomfort that everyone can tolerate?

[Hibby70]

How about putting soap on first then pissing on your hands. At least it will be warm.

[Hibbyradge]

How about putting soap on first then pissing on your hands. At least it will be warm.

:hilarious

Funnily enough, that would probably work as far as coronavirus is concerned.

[H18S NX]

I won't be going due to being 68 and having underlying problems(lungs),it would be extremely foolish to attend for the foreseeable future.

[Iggy Pope]

I think we should be putting social distancing in place now. People should be getting encouraged to only travel if it’s essential.

And football matches are not essential.


What do you deem essential?

Following up do you think it’s maybe essential for a young man or woman on minimum wage to get to their work on the bus? Keep the shelves full at Tesco and the like.
Mums to get food for babies?
Hospital workers and GP administrators to use the train?
Emergency workers to get to their depots?
There’ll be more than 130,000 of them in Edinburgh never mind Scotland.

[Iggy Pope]

But you are hardcore Stevie :greengrin

Piss on my feet regularly too. Great for toughening up the skin and avoiding blisters.

[The 90+2]

Soap and paper towels ✅
emergency hot water - I don’t think so (I notice it’s been a big feedback to previous fans reps in the past - club are aware - but it’s a big operation and costly to implement I believe. On the list of long term stadium improvements).

Thankfully it’s the soap that removes germs from hands, not hot water.

Thanks Kieran, hope you’re well mate.

[Since452]

This post is exactly whats wrong with the world.

Theres more chance of being run down on the way to the stadium than dying of corona virus. Get a grip

What a load of pish. Have you not been paying attention? You or I may not die but people will have elderly family members or family members with cancer and other health issues that are at serious risk if you become infected. It's about not spreading it as much as possible. Of course lives are at risk.

[Barney McGrew]

Following up do you think it’s maybe essential for a young man or woman on minimum wage to get to their work on the bus? Keep the shelves full at Tesco and the like.
Mums to get food for babies?
Hospital workers and GP administrators to use the train?
Emergency workers to get to their depots?
There’ll be more than 130,000 of them in Edinburgh never mind Scotland.

The argument is there for everyone of them, that’s what’s open to interpretation.

I think we can pretty much agree that going to a football match is not essential though :wink:

[Hiber-nation]

Piss on my feet regularly too. Great for toughening up the skin and avoiding blisters.

William Mysterious of the Rezillos pissed on my trainers in the toilets in Clouds a long time ago but that's a bit of a thread hijack :greengrin

[Barney McGrew]

This post is exactly whats wrong with the world.

Theres more chance of being run down on the way to the stadium than dying of corona virus. Get a grip

160 people died in car accidents in Scotland in 2018.

Theres going to far more than that die from Covid 19.

[kaimendhibs]

I work in public transport. How many would be happy for me and my colleagues not to go to work? Sounds harsh but if I can transport thousands around the country I will sure as damn go to the football while I'm allowed.

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[BILLYHIBS]

Had cold water in the West Stand for fifty five years nothing wrong with me ..... try pissing on your hands first and then apply soap might be on to something there ....Happy Birthday to me Happy Birthday to me ...

[Robbo6-2]

160 people died in car accidents in Scotland in 2018.

Theres going to far more than that die from Covid 19.

How many deaths in 2018 from the normal flu?

[Barney McGrew]

How many deaths in 2018 from the normal flu?

I’m not sure on the exact numbers, but it will be quite a few. Which is what should worry people - we already have high levels of residual immunity to it in the population, so it can’t transmit as well and even then it kills loads of people each year.

Covid can transmit far easier, there’s no immunity and will have a far bigger toll.

[WoreTheGreen]

Piss on my feet regularly too. Great for toughening up the skin and avoiding blisters.

Put your wellies on and piss in them might toughen up the skin but on second thoughts walking up stairs might prove difficult

[lapsedhibee]

160 people died in car accidents in Scotland in 2018.

Theres going to far more than that die from Covid 19.

And probably not all of them 'on the way to the stadium'!

[Robbo6-2]

I’m not sure on the exact numbers, but it will be quite a few. Which is what should worry people - we already have high levels of residual immunity to it in the population, so it can’t transmit as well and even then it kills loads of people each year.

Covid can transmit far easier, there’s no immunity and will have a far bigger toll.

So far, 16,000*people have died*and 280,000people have*been hospitalized during the2019-2020*flu*season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

[Iggy Pope]

William Mysterious of the Rezillos pissed on my trainers in the toilets in Clouds a long time ago but that's a bit of a thread hijack :greengrin

That’s what you get for under-dressing to a Rezillos gig fool!
I interviewed William for my zine you know. Hijacking this gloom further still. He was a gent.

[Iggy Pope]

The argument is there for everyone of them, that’s what’s open to interpretation.

I think we can pretty much agree that going to a football match is not essential though :wink:

Getting on the bus is though.

[Hibbyradge]

So far, 16,000*people have died*and 280,000people have*been hospitalized during the2019-2020*flu*season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

So what?

Loads of folk die from heart disease and cancer every year too.

In what way does that mitigate the effects of the Coronavirus?

[Iggy Pope]

Put your wellies on and piss in them might toughen up the skin but on second thoughts walking up stairs might prove difficult

My running wellies are cut down past my calves so this action really wouldn’t be an issue.

[wallpaperman]

That’s what you get for under-dressing to a Rezillos gig fool!
I interviewed William for my zine you know. Hijacking this gloom further still. He was a gent.

My big brother took photos that are on their live album sleeve from way back in the day.

[Iggy Pope]

My big brother took photos that are on their live album sleeve from way back in the day.

Glasgow Apollo Beat Goes On? Faye lost her skirt!

[wallpaperman]

Glasgow Apollo Beat Goes On? Faye lost her skirt!

Yeah, that’s it, ‘Mission Accomplished’, think he’s credited on the sleeve or inner.

[Iggy Pope]

Yeah, that’s it, ‘Mission Accomplished’, think he’s credited on the sleeve or inner.

Immortalised on the sleeve you mean. I’ll look him up. Where was your brother and you from?

[uwxm07]

Glasgow Apollo Beat Goes On? Faye lost her skirt!

My mate picked up Faye’s tights from the dressing room floor after a gig and we had them pinned on the wall in our flat !

[Cropley10]

This post is exactly whats wrong with the world.

Theres more chance of being run down on the way to the stadium than dying of corona virus. Get a grip

This post is exactly what’s wrong with Coronavirus information.

Road Traffic Accidents and the statistical probability of being run over are very well understood. For the most part it’s entirely possible to avoid being run over.

By contrast COVID19 isn’t well understood statistically AT ALL, furthermore it’s impossible to know who has it, and how you might get it. But if you do, you or someone you give it to might very well die of double pneumonia...

Standing next to someone who cheers when a goal goes in, transmitting the virus to you in that moment isn’t anything like getting hit by a car. If only it were.

[scoopyboy]

William Mysterious of the Rezillos pissed on my trainers in the toilets in Clouds a long time ago but that's a bit of a thread hijack :greengrin.

Was it The Jam, Rezillos and the Jolt that night?

If so I was there too, although if anybody pissed on my trainers chances are it was me:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

[Iggy Pope]

My mate picked up Faye’s tights from the dressing room floor after a gig and we had them pinned on the wall in our flat !


Rockers had no extremes.

[Iggy Pope]

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Was it The Jam, Rezillos and the Jolt that night?

If so I was there too, although if anybody pissed on my trainers chances are it was me:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

The Jolt. This thread is getting better.

[Pretty Boy]

How does the 500 people apply to football in the case of someone like Edinburgh City? They average 350ish so should be OK under the 500 rule but what if bored Hibs and Hearts fans decided to head to Ainslie Park on a Saturday? Would the game be postponed if more than 500 passed into the ground? Would they start turning people away at that point?

[Iggy Pope]

My mate picked up Faye’s tights from the dressing room floor after a gig and we had them pinned on the wall in our flat !

PS
How have you only got 4 posts with a brilliant avatar and goldmine info like this?

[Billy Whizz]

How does the 500 people apply to football in the case of someone like Edinburgh City? They average 350ish so should be OK under the 500 rule but what if bored Hibs and Hearts fans decided to head to Ainslie Park on a Saturday? Would the game be postponed if more than 500 passed into the ground? Would they start turning people away at that point?

I would hope it would 500 or so for each stand, or standing areas

[I'm_cabbaged]

How about putting soap on first then pissing on your hands. At least it will be warm.

Ignore radge, you have to wet your hands first 😉

[Hibbyradge]

Ignore radge, you have to wet your hands first 😉

Cold water first (it'll make you want to pee) then soap, then piss.

Sorted.

[DIXIHIBS]

I would hope it would 500 or so for each stand, or standing areas
Its not about 350 or 500 people at a football match. It is not about these people passing on or catching a virus. It IS about the pressure on the emegency sevices etc who have to attend a football match when by next weekend, may be required to assist in a huge increase in potential victims.

[Keith_M]

Absolutely. I don't think anyone would wash their hands in freezing cold water for 20 seconds. Other SPL grounds manage it, why can't we.


I always wash my hands in cold water.

I think anybody that needs warm water for their hands is a total wimp.





I feel a Four Yorkshire Men sketch coming on...

:greengrin

[snedzuk]

May I observe that the Rezillos and the word 'radge' have appeared on apparently unconnected comments - but there is a connection.

[Roxyhibee]

Glasgow Apollo Beat Goes On? Faye lost her skirt!

There are definitely photos on that album sleeve from the Edinburgh Odeon gig - my mate is in one of them.

And during that very gig, someone down the very front beside us ripped a section from Fay’s dress off and when she eventually noticed, she stopped the gig and demanded it back as “come on, we’ve got a gig in Glasgow tomorrow”.. Some guy eventually did and we noticed it was an irritating wee t!t from our school year (nicknamed Sparky oddly enough.!), so we gave him a few shoves and slaps during the next song.

Another great gig from those best of times.

[Captain Trips]

You’re right, I might. I’ve cancelled practically all my meetings other than a couple that were absolutely essential and even then I took every precaution I could. From tomorrow in I’ll be pretty much working from home full time.

Under 100 people have been confirmed as having it, But that’s different from who actually has it. Given that tests are taking 48 hours to come through, and the numbers are pretty much doubling each day in affected countries as you follow the patterns that means by tomorrow the real number will probably be over 200.

This may be guesswork, but it’s very educated guesswork based on what’s been happening elsewhere.



Thats open to interpretation I guess If it was down to me we’d already be advising people to work from home as much as humanly possible.

So things you find essential are ok? Will the ones who were diagnosed with this 2 weeks ago now not have it?

[Weegreenman]

This post is exactly whats wrong with the world.

Theres more chance of being run down on the way to the stadium than dying of corona virus. Get a grip



Deary me.

[wallpaperman]

Immortalised on the sleeve you mean. I’ll look him up. Where was your brother and you from?

We’re from the Craigentinny area, though my older brother went to Royal High secondary (across town every day, mental!). He’s 58 this year a good few years older than me, and had a fantastic record collection so I learnt a lot from him.

He seemed to spend all his time at the Nite Club above the Playhouse and Tiffany’s. Maybe similar experience to a few of you guys, saw loads of big names in their early days. He had a big box of ticket stubbs, sure he saw U2 (maybe with the Fire Engines supporting) at the Nite Club or maybe Tiffany’s, and saw early Simple Minds a few times,and dozens of others. Used to love going through that box of tickets.

You were probably at the same gigs loads of times!

He made a career in photography, has his own darkroom in London, specialises in black and white printing (which is pretty niche these days, as you can imagine), so those early days when he got allowed to take photos at the odd gig must have set him on his way.

[malcolm]

Cold water first (it'll make you want to pee) then soap, then piss.

Sorted.

It is a little recognised fact that you are better washing your hands before you pee not after. :wink: Pee of a normal person is sterile but full of proteins with which germs in the environment have a right old party with - consume, poop, procreate multiply and repeat.

It is the new virus at the party that is the big problem - I’d be happy to wash in warm duly singing a 20 second song as the queue builds up behind but as I’m a wimp I’ll sanitise my hands instead if cold is the only option - good for the environment too as less paper though I’m not for adopting that approach for other toiletry habits :greengrin.

If the coughers and sneezers stay away the spread of this virus will be down more to bad hygiene than close social interaction at events.

[jacomo]

That makes it okay at the beginning of a pandemic there’s no hot water in a stand for a club the size of ours?


You do have a point.

Freezing cold water is likely to dissuade people from washing their hands properly. No soap means less likely to destroy virus. No method of drying hands means more likely that virus will spread.

It is very poor.

[kaimendhibs]

We’re from the Craigentinny area, though my older brother went to Royal High secondary (across town every day, mental!). He’s 58 this year a good few years older than me, and had a fantastic record collection so I learnt a lot from him.

He seemed to spend all his time at the Nite Club above the Playhouse and Tiffany’s. Maybe similar experience to a few of you guys, saw loads of big names in their early days. He had a big box of ticket stubbs, sure he saw U2 (maybe with the Fire Engines supporting) at the Nite Club or maybe Tiffany’s, and saw early Simple Minds a few times,and dozens of others. Used to love going through that box of tickets.

You were probably at the same gigs loads of times!

He made a career in photography, has his own darkroom in London, specialises in black and white printing (which is pretty niche these days, as you can imagine), so those early days when he got allowed to take photos at the odd gig must have set him on his way.I'm 56, was at Porty. Loved Mikes record shop. Went to untold gigs in the Nite Club. First place I saw exploited eg

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[kaimendhibs]

I'm 56, was at Porty. Loved Mikes record shop. Went to untold gigs in the Nite Club. First place I saw exploited eg

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[uwxm07]

PS
How have you only got 4 posts with a brilliant avatar and goldmine info like this?

There was lots more like that at the time .... but age and damaged brain cells has taken it toll

[Hiber-nation]

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Was it The Jam, Rezillos and the Jolt that night?

If so I was there too, although if anybody pissed on my trainers chances are it was me:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

Good question! Definitely not The Jam/Jolt gig. Rezillos were headlining, it might have been the Mekons but it's all a bit vague :greengrin

[Johnny Clash]

We’re from the Craigentinny area, though my older brother went to Royal High secondary (across town every day, mental!). He’s 58 this year a good few years older than me, and had a fantastic record collection so I learnt a lot from him.

He seemed to spend all his time at the Nite Club above the Playhouse and Tiffany’s. Maybe similar experience to a few of you guys, saw loads of big names in their early days. He had a big box of ticket stubbs, sure he saw U2 (maybe with the Fire Engines supporting) at the Nite Club or maybe Tiffany’s, and saw early Simple Minds a few times,and dozens of others. Used to love going through that box of tickets.

You were probably at the same gigs loads of times!

He made a career in photography, has his own darkroom in London, specialises in black and white printing (which is pretty niche these days, as you can imagine), so those early days when he got allowed to take photos at the odd gig must have set him on his way.

Nite club was a brilliant venue... early bauhaus gig crackled! think it’s now some cocktail bar that only opens a few hours before shows at the Playhouse? What a waste!

[pacoluna]

It’s an absolute dereliction of duty from the politicians that the games are going ahead this weekend IMO.

Utter madness. They’re playing with peoples lives FFS.

I’d implore EVERYONE to think twice about going, if not for their own health but for other peoples.

The virus is due to hit it's peak in 3-4 weeks that when we self contain. If we do it now it will serve no purpose and would make us more vulnerable.

If your not going to match it would be hypocritical of you to go shopping, work, go on transport or to friends/families houses.

[wallpaperman]

I'm 56, was at Porty. Loved Mikes record shop. Went to untold gigs in the Nite Club. First place I saw exploited eg

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Was Mike’s record shop, the same as ‘Allan’s’ in Porty High Street? Remember it near the police station, but moved further east to what is now a picture framer.

Was a great wee shop, used to sell new 7” singles for 60p, when they were usually about a quid. Always wondered what happened to the people that owned that shop.

[lapsedhibee]

The virus is due to hit it's peak in 3-4 weeks that when we self contain. If we do it now it will serve no purpose and would make us more vulnerable.

If your not going to match it would be hypocritical of you to go shopping, work, go on transport or to friends/families houses.

Yes because feeding yourself and watching sport are about the same. :bitchy:

[JimBHibees]

Yes because feeding yourself and watching sport are about the same. :bitchy:

Get along to the game if you can could easily be the last game of the season.

[stuart-farquhar]

Really?

Where do they normally watch their football that this is such an embarrassing faux pas, executive box at The Emirates?

Well anywhere in the 1st world really. Trying to defend this is odd. It is poor. And what's the Emirates got to do with it?. Do the Directors and guests have freezing cold water? And if not why not if it's so unimportant.

[kaimendhibs]

Was Mike’s record shop, the same as ‘Allan’s’ in Porty High Street? Remember it near the police station, but moved further east to what is now a picture framer.

Was a great wee shop, used to sell new 7” singles for 60p, when they were usually about a quid. Always wondered what happened to the people that owned that shop.My fault. Was alans [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

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[Del Boy]

The virus is due to hit it's peak in 3-4 weeks that when we self contain. If we do it now it will serve no purpose and would make us more vulnerable.

If your not going to match it would be hypocritical of you to go shopping, work, go on transport or to friends/families houses.

Thought at the Boris press conference they said it’ll be 10-14 weeks until the peak?

[Roxyhibee]

I'm 56, was at Porty. Loved Mikes record shop. Went to untold gigs in the Nite Club. First place I saw exploited eg

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I had a 7” by a Porty band called The Valves called Ain’t No Surfin’ In Portobello. The B side was something about going down The Kings Road. (The Porty one, not the famous road in London)

Long gone when I sold all my previous vinyl. Big mistake.

[The 90+2]

Get along to the game if you can could easily be the last game of the season.

And risk passing on anything to vulnerable loved ones because it suits the economy?

[kaimendhibs]

I had a 7” by a Porty band called The Valves called Ain’t No Surfin’ In Portobello. The B side was something about going down The Kings Road. (The Porty one, not the famous road in London)

Long gone when I sold all my previous vinyl. Big mistake.Tarzans of the kings road

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[Since452]

Get along to the game if you can could easily be the last game of the season.

Or don't to protect vulnerable loved ones

[norhfc]

I am in Norway and we are on lock down, schools, kindergartens shut, all concerts and gatherings over 500 cancelled. All who can, working from home.
It’s a very weird atmosphere, disaster movie scenario.
The feeling is though it has to be done, I have no problems with all the restrictions. I am still getting into work, how this is all going to hit the economy though is unclear.

[Since452]

I wonder what affect this will have on the players. Will their heads really be focused on the game? If I was a player I'd rather it was cancelled.

[Alfred E Newman]

Thought at the Boris press conference they said it’ll be 10-14 weeks until the peak?

That's right. Estimated peak would be towards the end of May but not as high if we follow the guidelines. Same number infected but over a longer period.

[JimBHibees]

And risk passing on anything to vulnerable loved ones because it suits the economy?

Obviously only if you are well. When experts are saying a very low risk of getting anything from outdoor sports events I tend to believe them rather than listen to hysterical sound bites.

[Coco Bryce]

Once Livi beat Hearts on Saturday and then Celtic beat Rangers on Sunday they can then cancel the rest of the league fixtures as it's a done deal.

[Iggy Pope]

We’re from the Craigentinny area, though my older brother went to Royal High secondary (across town every day, mental!). He’s 58 this year a good few years older than me, and had a fantastic record collection so I learnt a lot from him.

He seemed to spend all his time at the Nite Club above the Playhouse and Tiffany’s. Maybe similar experience to a few of you guys, saw loads of big names in their early days. He had a big box of ticket stubbs, sure he saw U2 (maybe with the Fire Engines supporting) at the Nite Club or maybe Tiffany’s, and saw early Simple Minds a few times,and dozens of others. Used to love going through that box of tickets.

You were probably at the same gigs loads of times!

He made a career in photography, has his own darkroom in London, specialises in black and white printing (which is pretty niche these days, as you can imagine), so those early days when he got allowed to take photos at the odd gig must have set him on his way.

Still diverting the thread mate. I was at that U2 gig at the Nite Club and it was Avery young Altered Images in support!

[Iggy Pope]

I had a 7” by a Porty band called The Valves called Ain’t No Surfin’ In Portobello. The B side was something about going down The Kings Road. (The Porty one, not the famous road in London)

Long gone when I sold all my previous vinyl. Big mistake.

Tarzan of the Kings Road.

Edit: As Kaimend has pointed out.

[bigwheel]

Still diverting the thread mate. I was at that U2 gig at the Nite Club and it was Avery young Altered Images in support!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200313/557f19370dd8154a6d4ae8f80f5535f5.jpg

Appreciate it’s a diversion, but thought I’d share this ..

[Iggy Pope]

^^^ Nice.

[pacoluna]

Obviously only if you are well. When experts are saying a very low risk of getting anything from outdoor sports events I tend to believe them rather than listen to hysterical sound bites.

Agreed.

[Tambo]

Wonder how many turn up tomorrow.