Need to get the semi fully sold out

[Spike Mandela]

Rangers v Celtic semi finals were or were close to a sell out, but I can’t remember any semi finals other than those that were sell outs in a very long time.

[davhibby]

At these prices I’d be disappointed if we don’t manage to sell our half with the exception of the south upper

[JimBHibees]

I still feel exactly the same as I did before about the chances of a sell-out, i.e. there's no chance.

If we get somewhere between 15-20,000*, that would be fine. As long as we make a lot of noise and get behind the team.






* and 20k+ would be incredible.

Think it will be the usual 17-18k or so.

[Jones28]

But if we won last night.....

I’ve changed my mind already 😂

[TimeForHeroes16]

Need to sell this out total embarrassment if we don’t

[murray26]

I’ve changed my mind already 😂

Football does that to you.. I think with the aid of a couple of good results between now and the semi we’ll no be to far away from a sell out..

[Jones28]

Football does that to you.. I think with the aid of a couple of good results between now and the semi we’ll no be to far away from a sell out..

I would say so.

[HH81]

Probably not long after they announce the venue, date and kick-off details.

Today then?

[HH81]

Need to sell this out total embarrassment if we don’t

As long as you are there who cares?

[JeMeSouviens]

Need to sell this out total embarrassment if we don’t

Council telly, 12.15 ko, just after an embarrassing derby at home.

Prepare to be totally embarrassed. :wink:

[hibbysam]

Council telly, 12.15 ko, just after an embarrassing derby at home.

Prepare to be totally embarrassed. :wink:

Honking excuses them. It’s a semi final, against our rivals, one hour away, with the prize a place in the Scottish cup final.

Same kick off time, distance and price for both sets of fans, one of which are planted at the bottom of the league, yet they’ll sell out no problem. Said it before and I’ll keep saying it, anyone who was going before Tuesday and isn’t now in case we get beat again is a total *****bag.

[DH1875]

Honking excuses them. It’s a semi final, against our rivals, one hour away, with the prize a place in the Scottish cup final.

Same kick off time, distance and price for both sets of fans, one of which are planted at the bottom of the league, yet they’ll sell out no problem. Said it before and I’ll keep saying it, anyone who was going before Tuesday and isn’t now in case we get beat again is a total *****bag.

Why are you so sure they will sell out?

[Gloucester Hibs]

It SHOULD sell out, but after Tuesday I’m now not so sure. Plenty of evidence of folks “getting their excuses in early” already 🙄 If we had won on Tuesday we’d sell out no bother.

[HFC93]

We have some absolute ***** bags in our support. Has to said.

[brianmc]

It SHOULD sell out, but after Tuesday I’m now not so sure. Plenty of evidence of folks “getting their excuses in early” already 🙄 If we had won on Tuesday we’d sell out no bother.

And that in a nutshell is football.

Hearts barely managed to sell their tickets for Tuesday's game - but after the result, especially the manner of the result, they'll likely have no problem shifting 18-20k for the Semi.

It's always been like that and it always will be.
Don't see why so many people get their knickers in a twist about it.

If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't.

All this crowd size pettiness started with the puddle drinkers in their financial doping days - and I for one couldn't give a toss!

[Sir David Gray]

My usual group of 4 will be there.

Looking forward to it already, bring them on.

[JeMeSouviens]

Honking excuses them. It’s a semi final, against our rivals, one hour away, with the prize a place in the Scottish cup final.

Same kick off time, distance and price for both sets of fans, one of which are planted at the bottom of the league, yet they’ll sell out no problem. Said it before and I’ll keep saying it, anyone who was going before Tuesday and isn’t now in case we get beat again is a total *****bag.

They won't.

[Keith_M]

Need to sell this out total embarrassment if we don’t


You must be easily embarassed.

[bigwheel]

Some of my favourite games have been with a poor support..the Rangers semi that we won in pens was a great example..Inverness away when we won the cup. Amazing ....

[Logie Green]

Today then?

Yes, I find I'm usually better informed once things have been announced officially. I hope you are too. 😜

[Carheenlea]

At these prices I’d be disappointed if we don’t manage to sell our half with the exception of the south upper

One of the excuses can be scratched off the list at least.

Decent pricing that accommodates everyone with concessions across the board and cheaper tickets for behind the goal.

[Springbank]

Need to sell this out total embarrassment if we don’t

100% agree

In many countries a 42 mile journey would be the local derby

A lot of London derbies are over an hour's travel

Folk sound like spoilt wee bairns moaning

It's a Scottish Cup Semi Final Edinburgh Derby

Sell this out

[scotiaf]

Everyone is hurting after Tuesday night, but if you
have the money and the free pass from the wife, husband, family, lover or work.
Then a semi final against hearts comes along once in a blue moon,
get along and support the boys and if we get beat you can then accept you made the effort and the boys let you down. If we win then you can live on a high for a few days and say you were there when we potentially lifted the cup the game after. After lows come highs and vice versa especially if your Hibs.

[B.H.F.C]

100% agree

In many countries a 42 mile journey would be the local derby

A lot of London derbies are over an hour's travel

Folk sound like spoilt wee bairns moaning

It's a Scottish Cup Semi Final Edinburgh Derby

Sell this out

Well said.

We can’t moan about the players hiding, come the semi final, if we hide ourselves. Filling that end is a must.

[emerald green]

With the semi-final KO at 12:15, especially it being shown live on BBC1, and after the manner of the defeat on Tuesday night, there's no chance of a Hibs ticket sell out. I suspect that would also be the case even if Hibs had won on Tuesday.

Live on TV kills the prospect of a sell out imho. Look out for vast swathes of empty seats at Hampden, in both ends.

[Lee Marvin]

With the semi-final KO at 12:15, especially it being shown live on BBC1, and after the manner of the defeat on Tuesday night, there's no chance of a Hibs ticket sell out. I suspect that would also be the case even if Hibs had won on Tuesday.

Live on TV kills the prospect of a sell out imho. Look out for vast swathes of empty seats at Hampden, in both ends.

Hearts will sell out. I'm almost certain of that.

They may even ask for more tickets from us...:rolleyes:

[TimeForHeroes16]

As long as you are there who cares?
It infuriates me mate honestly, if you can’t go due to a holiday or money etc than that’s fair play, but a bet we would sell out the final?

The fact this is your rivals in a semi final this is as big as the derby gets, if your a true Hibee you should want to be there I couldn’t miss this yes I’m nervous more so after Tuesday but this is what being a hibs fans about these big moments. We claim to be the big team want to show we are the big team then a team the size we all know hibs are and should be would sell out this semi final.

Some of our fans are far to fickle get yourself along back your team come the Sunday it could be one if they ones where we say “ I was there “

[emerald green]

Hearts will sell out. I'm almost certain of that.

They may even ask for more tickets from us...:rolleyes:

What makes you "almost certain"?

[Leith Green]

I honestly dont understand some peoples logic .. Why would you pass on going to a game that offers a 50/50 chance of being part of one of the best moment in their lifetime following Hibs .. say we lose , the disappointment and what comes with it will still be there .. If we win and you arent part of that would be even more gutting. Must be similar to those who left when halliday scored in 2016 , or those that didnt bother going and who didnt feel they could cope with the disappointment that day offered.

Lets remember as well that its hardly 2 months since we spanked them on their own turf , and their support were the ones feeling like we did on Tuesday night.

[Lee Marvin]

What makes you "almost certain"?

Because they do in every big game and have done for a while, unfortunately. They are getting bigger crowds than us even now, both home and away.

They are a more loyal fanbase than us (certainly this century) and are never scared of a derby, regardless of how bad they are. Its sickening, but true.

[Carheenlea]

Because they do in every big game and have done for a while, unfortunately. They are getting bigger crowds than us even now, both home and away.

They are a more loyal fanbase than us (certainly this century) and are never scared of a derby, regardless of how bad they are. Its sickening, but true.

I don’t think any of that is true to be fair.

[B.H.F.C]

Because they do in every big game and have done for a while, unfortunately. They are getting bigger crowds than us even now, both home and away.

They are a more loyal fanbase than us (certainly this century) and are never scared of a derby, regardless of how bad they are. Its sickening, but true.

They didn’t even sell their allocation for last years final.

[Lee Marvin]

They didn’t even sell their allocation for last years final.

You sure?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-receive-extra-scottish-cup-15005468.amp

[B.H.F.C]

You sure?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-receive-extra-scottish-cup-15005468.amp

Maybe my mistake on that one. They don’t always sell out though, that’s a myth. They didn’t sell out the last time we met in a semi final.

[DH1875]

Because they do in every big game and have done for a while, unfortunately. They are getting bigger crowds than us even now, both home and away.

They are a more loyal fanbase than us (certainly this century) and are never scared of a derby, regardless of how bad they are. Its sickening, but true.

It's a load of bollocks, thats what it is.

[Lee Marvin]

It's a load of bollocks, thats what it is.

Let's see come Saturday 11th. I hope you are right and iam wrong, I dont think that will be the case though

[emerald green]

Because they do in every big game and have done for a while, unfortunately. They are getting bigger crowds than us even now, both home and away.

They are a more loyal fanbase than us (certainly this century) and are never scared of a derby, regardless of how bad they are. Its sickening, but true.

Not true. See below.

Hibs - season 2019/20 so far: spectators = 250,933; average attendance = 16,729

Hearts - same season so far: spectators =233,923; average attendance = 16,709

Like this season, Hibs and Hearts average attendances since 2017/18 have been within a couple of dozen, e.g 2018/19 = Hearts = 17,533; Hibs = 17,474.

How do you measure the loyalty of a fanbase? :rolleyes:

"Never scared of a derby" you say. That's simply not true either. For example, their end at ER was embarrassingly empty at the 6-2 game because they were s******* themselves as they new they were in for a hammering. Which they got.

[Sir David Gray]

Not true. See below.

Hibs - season 2019/20 so far: spectators = 250,933; average attendance = 16,729

Hearts - same season so far: spectators =233,923; average attendance = 16,709

Like this season, Hibs and Hearts average attendances since 2017/18 have been within a couple of dozen, e.g 2018/19 = Hearts = 17,533; Hibs = 17,474.

How do you measure the loyalty of a fanbase? :rolleyes:

"Never scared of a derby" you say. That's simply not true either. For example, their end at ER was embarrassingly empty at the 6-2 game because they were s******* themselves as they new they were in for a hammering. Which they got.

And in 17/18 they played several home games at Murrayfield.

[Lee Marvin]

Not true. See below.

Hibs - season 2019/20 so far: spectators = 250,933; average attendance = 16,729

Hearts - same season so far: spectators =233,923; average attendance = 16,709

Like this season, Hibs and Hearts average attendances since 2017/18 have been within a couple of dozen, e.g 2018/19 = Hearts = 17,533; Hibs = 17,474.

How do you measure the loyalty of a fanbase? :rolleyes:

"Never scared of a derby" you say. That's simply not true either. For example, their end at ER was embarrassingly empty at the 6-2 game because they were s******* themselves as they new they were in for a hammering. Which they got.

That was how long ago? 19!!

I hate them as much as anyone, but they do stick by their team more than us.

I hope we sell as many tickets as them for this game, but I cant see it happening. Brutal

[Leith Green]

That was how long ago? 19!!

I hate them as much as anyone, but they do stick by their team more than us.

I hope we sell as many tickets as them for this game, but I cant see it happening. Brutal

Surely you realise that in the timeframe you are talking about has been a far more successful era for hearts fans to “stick by their team” .. They are pretty quick to disappear when the chips are down themselves

[emerald green]

That was how long ago? 19!!

I hate them as much as anyone, but they do stick by their team more than us.

I hope we sell as many tickets as them for this game, but I cant see it happening. Brutal

What is the relevance of your point about 2019? You stated "they are getting bigger crowds than us even now". I'm afraid that is incorrect. Agreed?

If you want me to start digging out some of their attendance figures during their yo-yo years for example (circa late 70s) as they are/were known, when they were relegated three times in around five years I think it was, I could. But I really cannot be bothered spending any more time on this topic.

They certainly didn't "stick by their team" at that time it has to be said. I recall one match at Tynecastle where the attendance was given as around 2,500, and that was probably an exaggeration lol.

[RossScott1991]

If people seriously ain’t going to game because they need to leave their house 10ish, and will be home 4ish from the game then folk seriously need their head testing!

its Edinburgh to Glasgow , no a trip to Athens!

[Carheenlea]

That was how long ago? 19!!

I hate them as much as anyone, but they do stick by their team more than us.

I hope we sell as many tickets as them for this game, but I cant see it happening. Brutal

Thou doth protest too much

[Lee Marvin]

Thou doth protest too much

You got me. Rumbled

[Bristolhibby]

Just booked flights for me, my old man and two boys from Heathrow straight to the weedge.

First Hibs game at Hampden for my boys. They are super excited.

Oh for the innocence of youth.

GGTTH!

J

[Bristolhibby]

Everyone is hurting after Tuesday night, but if you
have the money and the free pass from the wife, husband, family, lover or work.
Then a semi final against hearts comes along once in a blue moon,
get along and support the boys and if we get beat you can then accept you made the effort and the boys let you down. If we win then you can live on a high for a few days and say you were there when we potentially lifted the cup the game after. After lows come highs and vice versa especially if your Hibs.

That’s my take on things. I missed 2016 because of the downer of not getting promoted and losing the league cup final to Ross County.

I’ve been to some shockers at Hampden. It’s the five and take, the Ying and Yang of being a football fan.

J

[hibbysam]

What is the relevance of your point about 2019? You stated "they are getting bigger crowds than us even now". I'm afraid that is incorrect. Agreed?

If you want me to start digging out some of their attendance figures during their yo-yo years for example (circa late 70s) as they are/were known, when they were relegated three times in around five years I think it was, I could. But I really cannot be bothered spending any more time on this topic.

They certainly didn't "stick by their team" at that time it has to be said. I recall one match at Tynecastle where the attendance was given as around 2,500, and that was probably an exaggeration lol.

If we were bottom of the league like they were our support would’ve deserted a long time ago, like it did in 2012-13-14 up until we won the cup. We can go back decades to times they shat it, I’m sure they’d agree, however for multiple years now there numbers have been impressive, ours have for a few years due to success, but take success away and all our hangers on bolt and we are left with our hardcore bunch of 8-10k.

Folk can have their opinions, mine is that if someone who was planning on going now decides they aren’t because we lost on Tuesday and are now scared we might lose again is a *****bag. Whether we lose with them in the stand or with them in the house, they’ll still take a ribbing from their pals, but a full hibs end will give us a far better chance of winning and lifting the players for it than it would with a half empty stand behind the goals, be as well waving the white flag.

[JeMeSouviens]

If we were bottom of the league like they were our support would’ve deserted a long time ago, like it did in 2012-13-14 up until we won the cup. We can go back decades to times they shat it, I’m sure they’d agree, however for multiple years now there numbers have been impressive, ours have for a few years due to success, but take success away and all our hangers on bolt and we are left with our hardcore bunch of 8-10k.

Folk can have their opinions, mine is that if someone who was planning on going now decides they aren’t because we lost on Tuesday and are now scared we might lose again is a *****bag. Whether we lose with them in the stand or with them in the house, they’ll still take a ribbing from their pals, but a full hibs end will give us a far better chance of winning and lifting the players for it than it would with a half empty stand behind the goals, be as well waving the white flag.

All but the jambo hardcore couldn’t even manage to get to their own stadium last week.

Both clubs will probably take 15-20k fans, the vast majority of their regular support. Selling out hampdump requires a big turnout from the day trippers. That’s unlikely for all the reasons already stated.

There’s no shame in it and whichever side wins will not gaf how many empty seats they had.

[weecounty hibby]

We need to get a ****ing grip, is there a thread on throwback about not selling out? Or about how being bottom of the league means some aren't going. Or because they have lost to Hibs recently their not going to turn up? I doubt it. Sometimes our mindset as a group is shocking. Positivity drives positivity, I hope that none of the Hibs players read some of the ***** written on here or maybe they might not bother turning up either.(yeah I get it looked like they didn't turn up on Tuesday). Sometimes it feels like we are beat before we even kick off when I see some of the stuff on here. I honestly don't know why some folk follow Hibs when they are so down on all things Hibernian and gushing about the tarts.

[eastterrace]

If we were bottom of the league like they were our support would’ve deserted a long time ago, like it did in 2012-13-14 up until we won the cup. We can go back decades to times they shat it, I’m sure they’d agree, however for multiple years now there numbers have been impressive, ours have for a few years due to success, but take success away and all our hangers on bolt and we are left with our hardcore bunch of 8-10k.

Folk can have their opinions, mine is that if someone who was planning on going now decides they aren’t because we lost on Tuesday and are now scared we might lose again is a *****bag. Whether we lose with them in the stand or with them in the house, they’ll still take a ribbing from their pals, but a full hibs end will give us a far better chance of winning and lifting the players for it than it would with a half empty stand behind the goals, be as well waving the white flag. I was one who said after Tuesday I ain’t going to semi final now after that display ( my wife said the same walking out the ground) but hey a few days later and the wife And me are now definitely going. Hopefully there will be a lot like me who will change their minds by the time the semi final comes.

[B.H.F.C]

We need to get a ****ing grip, is there a thread on throwback about not selling out? Or about how being bottom of the league means some aren't going. Or because they have lost to Hibs recently their not going to turn up? I doubt it. Sometimes our mindset as a group is shocking. Positivity drives positivity, I hope that none of the Hibs players read some of the ***** written on here or maybe they might not bother turning up either.(yeah I get it looked like they didn't turn up on Tuesday). Sometimes it feels like we are beat before we even kick off when I see some of the stuff on here. I honestly don't know why some folk follow Hibs when they are so down on all things Hibernian and gushing about the tarts.

Well said.

Hearts haven’t turned in to a brilliant side all of a sudden. We had an absolute disaster the other night and, whilst I was cracking up coming out of the game and yesterday, I don’t want to spend the next month reading about how everything about them is great. It’s not, they’re bottom of the league in March.

Where Hampden is concerned, we can’t complain if the players don’t turn up if we don’t.

[Sir David Gray]

We need to get a ****ing grip, is there a thread on throwback about not selling out? Or about how being bottom of the league means some aren't going. Or because they have lost to Hibs recently their not going to turn up? I doubt it. Sometimes our mindset as a group is shocking. Positivity drives positivity, I hope that none of the Hibs players read some of the ***** written on here or maybe they might not bother turning up either.(yeah I get it looked like they didn't turn up on Tuesday). Sometimes it feels like we are beat before we even kick off when I see some of the stuff on here. I honestly don't know why some folk follow Hibs when they are so down on all things Hibernian and gushing about the tarts.

I don't agree with anyone saying they're not going but the difference with their mindset is that even although they're having an awful season and are in very real danger of being relegated, they still believe they can beat Hibs no matter how bad they are.

There just isn't that feeling amongst the Hibs support and it doesn't take much for the confidence amongst our support to be dented regarding facing a derby and a 3-1 home defeat will do just that.

For many in our support who only go to home games, they won't have seen a derby win for 2 years and that plays on some people's minds.

[hibeerealist]

If we were bottom of the league like they were our support would’ve deserted a long time ago, like it did in 2012-13-14 (tel:2012-13-14) up until we won the cup. We can go back decades to times they shat it, I’m sure they’d agree, however for multiple years now there numbers have been impressive, ours have for a few years due to success, but take success away and all our hangers on bolt and we are left with our hardcore bunch of 8-10k.

Folk can have their opinions, mine is that if someone who was planning on going now decides they aren’t because we lost on Tuesday and are now scared we might lose again is a *****bag. Whether we lose with them in the stand or with them in the house, they’ll still take a ribbing from their pals, but a full hibs end will give us a far better chance of winning and lifting the players for it than it would with a half empty stand behind the goals, be as well waving the white flag.


Without the financial doping years - FTB, Pieman and Vlad - which brought them 3 Scottish cups and many a derby victory (even when very unexpected) do you think they would be turning up (not bolted as you say the Hibs fans have)?

Our problem is even when odds on to beat them, with a few notable exceptions (Young Team/family silver and Sauzee years and the Tornados) numerous Hibs teams have shat it and handed them victories - just as the spineless group we currently have.

I rest my case they are no different from our support oh and please remember 6-2 when they DID know they were in for a humping how many turned up at ER?

[Killiehibbie]

Because they do in every big game and have done for a while, unfortunately. They are getting bigger crowds than us even now, both home and away.

They are a more loyal fanbase than us (certainly this century) and are never scared of a derby, regardless of how bad they are. Its sickening, but true.
Some quite poor away crowds for them in recent seasons, certainly lower than us, less than 500 at Kilmarnock, less than half of that at Aberdeen spring to mind. Talking this century about 2000 empty seats the night Mixu scored a hattrick. Quite a poor support, compared to our few appearances, when they lost League Cup final.

[hibbysam]

Without the financial doping years - FTB, Pieman and Vlad - which brought them 3 Scottish cups and many a derby victory (even when very unexpected) do you think they would be turning up (not bolted as you say the Hibs fans have)?

Our problem is even when odds on to beat them, with a few notable exceptions (Young Team/family silver and Sauzee years and the Tornados) numerous Hibs teams have shat it and handed them victories - just as the spineless group we currently have.

I rest my case they are no different from our support oh and please remember 6-2 when they DID know they were in for a humping how many turned up at ER?

Over very recent years we have won as many derbies as we have lost. It’s football, we will lose some games, that’s life. If you want to watch a team that wins every single derby you are probably watching the wrong sport.

You keep referring to a game nearly 20 years ago as a reference for their support not turning up. They’ve been dire for 4 years now, losing to us at the worst possible times, two years running in the cup, one of which allowed us to go on and win it, finished below us every season since we came back up, and are now very close to being relegated. Let’s make no bones about it, even after our high flying years, if that’s us in 3 years time then our crowds are down under 10k.

I think the last 5 edinburgh derbies are 2 apiece and a draw, exactly what our record will be like against 75% of the league.

[Killiehibbie]

Over very recent years we have won as many derbies as we have lost. It’s football, we will lose some games, that’s life. If you want to watch a team that wins every single derby you are probably watching the wrong sport.

You keep referring to a game nearly 20 years ago as a reference for their support not turning up. They’ve been dire for 4 years now, losing to us at the worst possible times, two years running in the cup, one of which allowed us to go on and win it, finished below us every season since we came back up, and are now very close to being relegated. Let’s make no bones about it, even after our high flying years, if that’s us in 3 years time then our crowds are down under 10k.

I think the last 5 edinburgh derbies are 2 apiece and a draw, exactly what our record will be like against 75% of the league.
The quoted post stated they have a more loyal fanbase certainly this century.

[JOD]

Hotel Booked near Hampden. Saves all the fussing about with trains.

Was gutted Tuesday but I'll be there to see a famous victory.

Ever self respecting Hibee should be there as well.

:stirrer:

:lolyam:

[hibbysam]

The quoted post stated they have a more loyal fanbase certainly this century.

Which quoted post?

[Killiehibbie]

Which quoted post?

The one by Lee Marvin

[NAE NOOKIE]

You have to put this loyalty stuff into context, for historical reasons Hearts have a bigger fanbase than us, its not massively bigger, but I would guess that if Hibs have a pool of 100,000 fans living in Scotland who are likely to actually attend a match at one time or another during their lives, Hearts probably have a pool of around 130,000. Those actual numbers are probably mince, but I would guess that as a percentage its not far off.

I would confidently guess that when it comes to overall fanbase numbers our turnouts in most seasons measure up against Hertz pretty well.

[hibbysam]

The one by Lee Marvin

Which is fair enough, the poster was replying to myself though, talking about bygone days. Their last cup success was nearly a decade ago, since then they have been relegated, finished below us umpteen times, been beat by us in the cup 3 times to their 1, and have a pretty identical derby record to us, and are also rock bottom of the league, while we have been in Europe multiple times, multiple cup finals and semi finals, and are on an upward curve since relegation.

If you can seriously say that now, in the modern time, turning those situations around that we would have our attendances up at near record levels, selling out allocations at Tynie, and going into the derby semi final in high spirits, while they talk about handing tickets back, only taking 15k to hampden etc then I think your joking with yourself.

[Frazerbob]

You have to put this loyalty stuff into context, for historical reasons Hearts have a bigger fanbase than us, its not massively bigger, but I would guess that if Hibs have a pool of 100,000 fans living in Scotland who are likely to actually attend a match at one time or another during their lives, Hearts probably have a pool of around 130,000. Those actual numbers are probably mince, but I would guess that as a percentage its not far off.

I would confidently guess that when it comes to overall fanbase numbers our turnouts in most seasons measure up against Hertz pretty well.

You’re just making stuff up.

[NAE NOOKIE]

You’re just making stuff up.

No, I'm surmising :greengrin

When you look at it from a reasonably logical point of view how many folk on this site for example support Hibs because their family are Hibbies going all the way back? I would imagine Hearts are the same. For the first 20 years of our existence you couldn't even play for Hibs unless you were also in the CYMS and even beyond that time Hibs support was drawn almost exclusively from Edinburgh's Irish Catholic population.

That is pretty well accepted as fact, so you couldn't say that its an unreasonable correlation to guess that up until WWI most protestant football fans in Edinburgh would have been much more likely to support Hearts than Hibs and given their far larger numbers it's probably also not unreasonable to say that even though to the sane fans on both sides ( which is the overwhelming majority ) religion now plays no part in what team they choose to follow, the early decades meant that over the years a kid growing up in Edinburgh or the Lothians would be more likely to come from a family with some Hearts background or have friends who in the main supported Hearts, than be from a Hibs background or have friends who in the majority supported Hibs.

On that basis my surmisation that Hearts have a slightly bigger fanbase, not massively bigger, but bigger, than Hibs I would suggest is far from unreasonable.

[oneone73]

You have to put this loyalty stuff into context, for historical reasons Hearts have a bigger fanbase than us, its not massively bigger, but I would guess that if Hibs have a pool of 100,000 fans living in Scotland who are likely to actually attend a match at one time or another during their lives, Hearts probably have a pool of around 130,000. Those actual numbers are probably mince, but I would guess that as a percentage its not far off.

I would confidently guess that when it comes to overall fanbase numbers our turnouts in most seasons measure up against Hertz pretty well.

That's 30 per cent bigger. I have my doubts

[Frazerbob]

No, I'm surmising :greengrin

When you look at it from a reasonably logical point of view how many folk on this site for example support Hibs because their family are Hibbies going all the way back? I would imagine Hearts are the same. For the first 20 years of our existence you couldn't even play for Hibs unless you were also in the CYMS and even beyond that time Hibs support was drawn almost exclusively from Edinburgh's Irish Catholic population.

That is pretty well accepted as fact, so you couldn't say that its an unreasonable correlation to guess that up until WWI most protestant football fans in Edinburgh would have been much more likely to support Hearts than Hibs and given their far larger numbers it's probably also not unreasonable to say that even though to the sane fans on both sides ( which is the overwhelming majority ) religion now plays no part in what team they choose to follow, the early decades meant that over the years a kid growing up in Edinburgh or the Lothians would be more likely to come from a family with some Hearts background or have friends who in the main supported Hearts, than be from a Hibs background or have friends who in the majority supported Hibs.

On that basis my surmisation that Hearts have a slightly bigger fanbase, not massively bigger, but bigger, than Hibs I would suggest is far from unreasonable.

30% is not ‘slightly bigger’. I’ll say it again, you’re just making stuff up.

[NAE NOOKIE]

30% is not ‘slightly bigger’. I’ll say it again, you’re just making stuff up.

Awe right, 20% bigger ..... 15% bigger. I'm happy to admit my figures are total guesswork ... but the historical background for both clubs isn't guesswork and from that I'm prepared to stick by my theory that no matter what the actual figure Hearts have a bigger fanbase than us.

Put it this way ..... If I'm not right then the guy getting pelters on here for daring to suggest Hearts have a more loyal following than us is right as their crowds compared to ours over the last number of decades must prove because that's the only other evidence you can base it on.

[Ardenttwo]

Hotel Booked near Hampden. Saves all the fussing about with trains.

Was gutted Tuesday but I'll be there to see a famous victory.

Ever self respecting Hibee should be there as well.

:stirrer:

:lolyam:
My hotel booked 0.4 mile from Hampden. Hope now to get two tickets together at game. Not sure if we only get one when they come on sale. I am a ST holder

[brianmc]

My hotel booked 0.4 mile from Hampden. Hope now to get two tickets together at game. Not sure if we only get one when they come on sale. I am a ST holder

I doubt you'll struggle for 2 together...

[JeMeSouviens]

I doubt you'll struggle for 200 together...

ftfy

[Viva_Palmeiras]

It’s time to get with the players - all in it together and that we ALL turnup.

As I admitted on Derby night that was the first time I’d left a game early 87 ish mins.

As a “child” of the Miller I’ve seen my fair share of dismal performances - scarf chucking on a scale I’ve never seen since. 4-0, 5-1, Livi defeat! Amongst others.

That was then this is now.

Let’s ALL turn-up. I imagine there will be a number of those in attendance at the 4-0 semi who’s concern could be that we hand them the psychological
advantage again thru no-shows this time round. We can’t let that happen so for that reason and more I’ll be doing my utmost to secure a ticket and be there.

[JeMeSouviens]

It’s time to get with the players - all in it together and that we ALL turnup.

As I admitted on Derby night that was the first time I’d left a game early 87 ish mins.

As a “child” of the Miller I’ve seen my fair share of dismal performances - scarf chucking on a scale I’ve never seen since. 4-0, 5-1, Livi defeat! Amongst others.

That was then this is now.

Let’s ALL turn-up. I imagine there will be a number of those in attendance at the 4-0 semi who’s concern could be that we hand them the psychological
advantage again thru no-shows this time round. We can’t let that happen so for that reason and more I’ll be doing my utmost to secure a ticket and be there.

They didn’t win in 2006 because of gaps in our end. We actually started that game ok. We lost because we were missing Brown, Riordan and O’Connor and we had a ****** woeful keeper.

If gaps were that important Sevco would have gubbed them easily last week.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Surely you realise that in the timeframe you are talking about has been a far more successful era for hearts fans to “stick by their team” .. They are pretty quick to disappear when the chips are down themselves

Are they though? I really don’t think this argument holds much water.

[Hibees1973]

Tuesday was damaging, but only until the next game.

Abedeen away is a tough one, and one we are likely to lose given our record up there. The key to tomorrow is to put in a good performance similar to those Hibs have had leading up to Tuesday. When the semi comes round the teams will not be the same, think they have a couple of players suspended for the semi after picking up bookings from previous cup ties and no 2 games are the same.

The dilemma for Ross is to get the balance right between defence and attack. We need to play Whittaker or Hallberg as a sitting midfielder and not be as kamikaze in attack. I feel there was an air of over confidence going into Tuesday, which we definitely no longer have and is a good thing.

If Hibs can perform well and get into the top 6 then Tuesday will be proven as a blip. If this is not achieved we may have a bit to be concerned about.