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SkintHibby
23-02-2020, 10:09 AM
Julian Assange an Australian citizen exposed American war crimes and now the US want the British to hand him over to them.
Considering the US government refused to hand over the lady who killed young motorcyclist Harry Dunn should the UK not be telling the Americans NO to Assanges extradition?
I personally feel very strongly that as a journalist, Assange was correct in exposing American war crimes and since he is not a US citizen he can't be tried for treason there.
I visited the Ecuadorian Embassy in London whilst he was still inside and I honestly don't understand why people in general are not outraged over this.
Freedom of journalism is at stake here and surely matters to us all?
-Jonesy-
23-02-2020, 05:15 PM
No we shouldn’t and not just because of the Harry Dunn debacle.
Sadly I don’t think the appetite is there in the British public at large to see his attempted extradition as a travesty of journalistic freedom.
Hibbyradge
24-02-2020, 11:58 PM
Is he accused of breaking any laws for which an individual could be extradited?
The answer to that answers your question, I would have thought.
Cataplana
25-02-2020, 05:36 AM
The way extradition works, you have to prove why you shouldn't be extradited. One possible route is the European Human Rights Act. US would have to show that their jails conform.
pollution
25-02-2020, 11:57 AM
Julian Assange an Australian citizen exposed American war crimes and now the US want the British to hand him over to them.
Considering the US government refused to hand over the lady who killed young motorcyclist Harry Dunn should the UK not be telling the Americans NO to Assanges extradition?
I personally feel very strongly that as a journalist, Assange was correct in exposing American war crimes and since he is not a US citizen he can't be tried for treason there.
I visited the Ecuadorian Embassy in London whilst he was still inside and I honestly don't understand why people in general are not outraged over this.
Freedom of journalism is at stake here and surely matters to us all?
Did you gain access to interview him?
SkintHibby
01-03-2020, 02:38 PM
Did you gain access to interview him?
Sorry, I meant I was outside the embassy.
Mon Dieu4
21-07-2020, 08:50 AM
Vivienne Westwood of all people is going on a tremendous rant about this on the BBC right now, she sounds proper mental and just called the reporter a moron haha
Santa Cruz
21-07-2020, 09:01 AM
Vivienne Westwood of all people is going on a tremendous rant about this on the BBC right now, she sounds proper mental and just called the reporter a moron haha
haha, it was very funny. Really helpful on GMB this morning when they explained why she was presenting herself as a canary.
I personally don't think he should be extradited, I've not been persuaded he committed a crime and particularly because of the situation regarding the death of Harry Dunn.
If the UK has an extradition policy with another country, it has to be reciprocal or it's completely pointless. Dare say it will be discussed amongst other things when Raab and Pompeo meet today.
Ozyhibby
21-07-2020, 09:44 AM
haha, it was very funny. Really helpful on GMB this morning when they explained why she was presenting herself as a canary.
I personally don't think he should be extradited, I've not been persuaded he committed a crime and particularly because of the situation regarding the death of Harry Dunn.
If the UK has an extradition policy with another country, it has to be reciprocal or it's completely pointless. Dare say it will be discussed amongst other things when Raab and Pompeo meet today.
I’m certain he has committed a crime but not sure he should be extradited into the American justice system.
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lord bunberry
21-07-2020, 10:06 AM
On principle alone we shouldn’t extradite him. The Americans have got a cheek even asking.
Keith_M
22-07-2020, 01:24 PM
I think the woman that killed Harry Dunn should be extradited to face justice in the UK. Sadly, the UK appears to be the lapdog of the US and it's never going to happen.
I'm not suggesting there should be some kind of trade off, but the UK really cannot extradite people to a country that is not willing to have a reciprocal agreement.
That aside, Assad's 'crime' is itself questionable. The US appears to be motivated by a desire for revenge because some of their ugly secrets were exposed. This appears to be more politically motivated than a desire for genuine justice.
Hibrandenburg
22-07-2020, 09:55 PM
No, the UK should not extradite anyone to any country that cannot guarantee human rights and a fair and just judicial process.
cabbageandribs1875
22-07-2020, 10:32 PM
after reading today that this 'loophole' has now been closed i'm still angry the yanks won't let sacoolas return to face justice, immunity should be for parking tickets etc, sacoolas as a mother herself should be thoroughly ashamed by her actions by hiding behind immunity, i hope her consciense if she even has one bothers her for the rest of her damned life. anyways...although i've always though assange should face justice both in sweden(yeah i know statute of limitations etc) and america, stuff the yanks on this one.
they can settle on getting and keeping the pervert prince instead, trump and pompeo can choke on their chickens anaw
Killiehibbie
24-07-2020, 07:52 AM
He won't get a fair trial and the prospect of a 170 year sentence should be enough to prevent his extradition.
We shouldn't contemplate sending people to countries that treat prisoners in the way the yanks do.
Killiehibbie
24-07-2020, 08:00 AM
after reading today that this 'loophole' has now been closed i'm still angry the yanks won't let sacoolas return to face justice, immunity should be for parking tickets etc, sacoolas as a mother herself should be thoroughly ashamed by her actions by hiding behind immunity, i hope her consciense if she even has one bothers her for the rest of her damned life. anyways...although i've always though assange should face justice both in sweden(yeah i know statute of limitations etc) and america, stuff the yanks on this one.
they can settle on getting and keeping the pervert prince instead, trump and pompeo can choke on their chickens anaw
Immunity should only apply when the offence is work related.
heretoday
25-07-2020, 06:07 AM
Yes he should be.
Hibrandenburg
04-01-2021, 10:07 AM
UK judge refuses to extradite Assange to the US.
Bangkok Hibby
04-01-2021, 10:54 AM
UK judge refuses to extradite Assange to the US.
Good, correct decision in my opinion.
Blackfordhibby
04-01-2021, 10:57 AM
I'd swap him for Anne Sacoolas in a heartbeat, but there again i'm a cantankerous auld bathtub.
neil7908
04-01-2021, 11:07 AM
Good, correct decision in my opinion.
Agreed.
TrapperJohn
04-01-2021, 11:24 AM
Good, correct decision in my opinion.
Yes but for the wrong reason...on health grounds. Should never have been in court.
It is a disgrace the way the UK government is treating this man.
Hibrandenburg
04-01-2021, 11:45 AM
Yes but for the wrong reason...on health grounds. Should never have been in court.
It is a disgrace the way the UK government is treating this man.
And yet we point the finger at China for imprisoning journalists for telling the truth.
Just_Jimmy
04-01-2021, 03:32 PM
I'd swap him for Anne Sacoolas in a heartbeat, but there again i'm a cantankerous auld bathtub.I'm not and so would I.
it's a disgrace that you can hide behind diplomatic immunity to commit a crime and take a life.
her actions had nothing to do with her role or her partner's role.
he's should face a British court and she should be found guilty.
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Renfrew_Hibby
04-01-2021, 04:25 PM
I'm not and so would I.
it's a disgrace that you can hide behind diplomatic immunity to commit a crime and take a life.
her actions had nothing to do with her role or her partner's role.
he's should face a British court and she should be found guilty.
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I agree with what you're saying but the type of justice that he would receive compared to what she would receive would be like night and day.
cabbageandribs1875
06-01-2021, 02:50 PM
denied bail today, probably didn't help all those countries making it known they wanted to offer him asylum, ankle tag or not he is absolutely a risk and would just enter another foreign embassy and avoid justice yet again. it's because he decided to avoid facing justice in sweden i find it pretty hard to have any sympathy for him.
Callum_62
06-01-2021, 05:21 PM
denied bail today, probably didn't help all those countries making it known they wanted to offer him asylum, ankle tag or not he is absolutely a risk and would just enter another foreign embassy and avoid justice yet again. it's because he decided to avoid facing justice in sweden i find it pretty hard to have any sympathy for him.What 'justice' did he evade?
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heretoday
06-01-2021, 08:43 PM
Yes but for the wrong reason...on health grounds. Should never have been in court.
It is a disgrace the way the UK government is treating this man.
I agree. Enough is enough.
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