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CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 03:37 PM
Contracts up at the end of the season:
Only Slivka and Whittaker plus Daz at 35 in the summer, with very dodgy knees must be a good bet to retire.
Whittaker 36 in the summer to retire and Slivka looking like he won't be offered an extension.

Loans Up at the end of the season: Bogdan, Docherty, Omeonga, Naismith and McNulty
Will sign Bogdan up
Suspect we will want to break the bank (poss. £800k) to get Docherty on a permanent. Looks like a 7 out of 10 every week guy.
Omeonga - might be the time to get him, failed miserably at guff Circle Brugge so Genoa might be happy to cut their losses at £200k
Naismith, I like the big hungry hippo. Better than McGinn, probably available for £100k. Only worry is his knee injuries.
McNulty will be back to his £10k a week contract with Reading trying madly all summer to move him on to a club that will pay the same kind of level of wages and splitting the difference with McNulty. Not Hibs i'm afraid.

Moving on at the end of the season: Horgan, Marciano, Kamberi and James. The 1st 3 have a year left on their contracts.
Horgan is best as an impact sub so if on good wage not value for money. However, we might get stuck with him for the same reasons.
Marciano, given the jiggery pokery and his cryptic statement before the turn of the year, that we have already paid up to his last club so he might stay but the work put into keeping Bogdan here would suggest not.
Kamberi, whatever folk think of him he is an asset which we will be looking to sell on in the summer possibly to help pay for Docherty. Accordingly, I hope he gets some game time and impresses over the next few months. Sunny Poland beckons.
James, the purchase of McGinn tells you the thoughts of Jack Ross. 2 years left on his contract but back to Englandshire.

Since452
10-02-2020, 03:41 PM
I'm hoping we can do a straight swap with the Huns with Docherty and Kamberi. Would suit all parties

MWHIBBIES
10-02-2020, 03:44 PM
Docherty is never worth 800k to Hibs. Crazy talk. We'd be mental to pay that.

CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 03:50 PM
Docherty is never worth 800k to Hibs. Crazy talk. We'd be mental to pay that.

We can build the team round the guy.
Quality doesn't come cheap and this season has shown us what happens if your midfield is full of lightweights.

How much do you think he is worth?

CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 03:52 PM
I'm hoping we can do a straight swap with the Huns with Docherty and Kamberi. Would suit all
parties

Can't see it.
He has only played a few minutes in one sub appearance for them to date and Defoe will be back in 6 weeks.

MWHIBBIES
10-02-2020, 03:54 PM
We can build the team round the guy.
Quality doesn't come cheap and this season has shown us what happens if your midfield is full of lightweights.

How much do you think he is worth?
Well, I'll wait till he's played more than 120 minutes before making claims like we can build the team around him. Ridiculous thing to say at this stage. If he starts on Wednesday we'll get a better idea.

I'll be surprised if he lives up to this hype.

CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 03:59 PM
Well, I'll wait till he's played more than 120 minutes before making claims like we can build the team around him. Ridiculous thing to say at this stage. If he starts on Wednesday we'll get a better idea.

I'll be surprised if he lives up to this hype.

He ain't Pele but in Hibs terms he is the business.
All about opinions.
To my eyes Paul McGinn looks very average but other folk on here see something that I can't.
Obviously i'm right :wink:.

sambajustice
10-02-2020, 04:00 PM
Docherty is never worth 800k to Hibs. Crazy talk. We'd be mental to pay that.

Big Ron wipes his erse with 800k, chicken feed!

MWHIBBIES
10-02-2020, 04:01 PM
He ain't Pele but in Hibs terms he is the business.
All about opinions.
To my eyes Paul McGinn looks very average but other folk on here see something that I can't.
Obviously i'm right :wink:.

Are you basing that on 120 minutes?

ekhibee
10-02-2020, 04:04 PM
Well, I'll wait till he's played more than 120 minutes before making claims like we can build the team around him. Ridiculous thing to say at this stage. If he starts on Wednesday we'll get a better idea.

I'll be surprised if he lives up to this hype.

I can see what you mean, but tbh I'd be quite surprised if we got him much cheaper than that. He is a good player, one that would definitely be worth investing in, but if it means the rest of the player budget is drastically reduced then obviously it's a non-starter. I suppose it also comes down to what Ron is prepared to put in, if anything. But like you, I'd like to see more of him before giving a proper opinion on it.

CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 04:11 PM
Are you basing that on 120 minutes?

No, 45 minutes ...........................and what I saw of him at Shrewsbury and Hamilton

Hibbyradge
10-02-2020, 04:14 PM
Big Ron wipes his erse with 800k, chicken feed!

That's one messy erse he's got.

I usually just use a fiver. Two if I've had a curry.

KingPat4
10-02-2020, 04:15 PM
I reckon Whittaker has another year in him.

supermcginn
10-02-2020, 04:27 PM
Can't see it.
He has only played a few minutes in one sub appearance for them to date and Defoe will be back in 6 weeks.

He's only been allowed to play in one game so far.

hfc rd
10-02-2020, 04:40 PM
£800K for Docherty - overtaking current club record fee
£200K for Omeonga

I’d be very happy if we got those two in but £1M for two players seems very unlikely unless you are in fantasy land

Wilson
10-02-2020, 04:48 PM
That's one messy erse he's got.

I usually just use a fiver. Two if I've had a curry.

Queen's head up or down?

Gmack7
10-02-2020, 04:49 PM
Docherty was signed for 650K i think he'll go for around half that in the summer as hes made 0 impact at the rangers. I'm not even sure steph will be in the Hibs team when everyone is fit so we wont be paying anywhere near 200K.

1875Sean
10-02-2020, 04:49 PM
Contracts up at the end of the season:
Only Slivka and Whittaker plus Daz at 35 in the summer, with very dodgy knees must be a good bet to retire.
Whittaker 36 in the summer to retire and Slivka looking like he won't be offered an extension.

Loans Up at the end of the season: Bogdan, Docherty, Omeonga, Naismith and McNulty
Will sign Bogdan up
Suspect we will want to break the bank (poss. £800k) to get Docherty on a permanent. Looks like a 7 out of 10 every week guy.
Omeonga - might be the time to get him, failed miserably at guff Circle Brugge so Genoa might be happy to cut their losses at £200k
Naismith, I like the big hungry hippo. Better than McGinn, probably available for £100k. Only worry is his knee injuries.
McNulty will be back to his £10k a week contract with Reading trying madly all summer to move him on to a club that will pay the same kind of level of wages and splitting the difference with McNulty. Not Hibs i'm afraid.

Moving on at the end of the season: Horgan, Marciano, Kamberi and James. The 1st 3 have a year left on their contracts.
Horgan is best as an impact sub so if on good wage not value for money. However, we might get stuck with him for the same reasons.
Marciano, given the jiggery pokery and his cryptic statement before the turn of the year, that we have already paid up to his last club so he might stay but the work put into keeping Bogdan here would suggest not.
Kamberi, whatever folk think of him he is an asset which we will be looking to sell on in the summer possibly to help pay for Docherty. Accordingly, I hope he gets some game time and impresses over the next few months. Sunny Poland beckons.
James, the purchase of McGinn tells you the thoughts of Jack Ross. 2 years left on his contract but back to Englandshire.

Big Daz signed a contract with Gray until 2023, I’d let silka and Whittaker go, agree with Horgan although I’d like to see up give Rocky a new deal

Lago
10-02-2020, 04:50 PM
Well I've heard of blue sky thinking, but what I'm reading here is more pie in the sky thinking. 🙄

calumhibee1
10-02-2020, 04:50 PM
The fees you’ve quoted are never going to happen but I’d agree with the general idea behind Docherty. We should be doing everything possible to get him here permanently and build the midfield around him and Allan.

Hibbyradge
10-02-2020, 04:51 PM
Queen's head up or down?

I never purposefully decide. I just let her take her chances.

cabbageandribs1875
10-02-2020, 04:57 PM
800k for a player 🙃 you pay that amount for a player then you also pay the salary of a 800k player.....forget it,jeezo

i was raging with that reported bid of 400k for the dunfy player 😁

B.H.F.C
10-02-2020, 06:05 PM
He ain't Pele but in Hibs terms he is the business.
All about opinions.
To my eyes Paul McGinn looks very average but other folk on here see something that I can't.
Obviously i'm right :wink:.

McGinn probably is average. Or steady is maybe fairer.

It’s just that average (or steady) is probably an improvement on the other current options in his position.

worcesterhibby
10-02-2020, 06:09 PM
I never purposefully decide. I just let her take her chances.

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Vault Boy
10-02-2020, 06:20 PM
I reckon Whittaker has another year in him.

I'm beginning to think you're right but I suppose it's gotta be down to him.

35 is some age to be having the midfield renaissance that Whitts is currently coasting through, whether that'd be sustainable over the course of another entire season is another question.

Either way, he's been excellent for us recently and I'm so glad that fans have largely got off his back. Brilliant pro.

LancsHibs
10-02-2020, 06:23 PM
Docherty looks class, let’s hope the huns are up for a permanent swap deal!

J-C
10-02-2020, 06:31 PM
Contracts up at the end of the season:
Only Slivka and Whittaker plus Daz at 35 in the summer, with very dodgy knees must be a good bet to retire.
Whittaker 36 in the summer to retire and Slivka looking like he won't be offered an extension.

Loans Up at the end of the season: Bogdan, Docherty, Omeonga, Naismith and McNulty
Will sign Bogdan up
Suspect we will want to break the bank (poss. £800k) to get Docherty on a permanent. Looks like a 7 out of 10 every week guy.
Omeonga - might be the time to get him, failed miserably at guff Circle Brugge so Genoa might be happy to cut their losses at £200k
Naismith, I like the big hungry hippo. Better than McGinn, probably available for £100k. Only worry is his knee injuries.
McNulty will be back to his £10k a week contract with Reading trying madly all summer to move him on to a club that will pay the same kind of level of wages and splitting the difference with McNulty. Not Hibs i'm afraid.

Moving on at the end of the season: Horgan, Marciano, Kamberi and James. The 1st 3 have a year left on their contracts.
Horgan is best as an impact sub so if on good wage not value for money. However, we might get stuck with him for the same reasons.
Marciano, given the jiggery pokery and his cryptic statement before the turn of the year, that we have already paid up to his last club so he might stay but the work put into keeping Bogdan here would suggest not.
Kamberi, whatever folk think of him he is an asset which we will be looking to sell on in the summer possibly to help pay for Docherty. Accordingly, I hope he gets some game time and impresses over the next few months. Sunny Poland beckons.
James, the purchase of McGinn tells you the thoughts of Jack Ross. 2 years left on his contract but back to Englandshire.

Bogdan signed on a permanent deal till the summer.

Slivka was offered a deal but knocked it back seemingly, off on a free.

Whittaker, Daz and Gray doing their badges with Whittaker doing some coaching with the youth teams, Daz and Gray with eventually go into coaching and may be future management.

h1bs4life
10-02-2020, 07:07 PM
Would bite the Huns hands off for swap deal Docherty for Kamberi. Not sure what Docherty contract situation is or wages but according to the Huns Kamberi earns £100 000 more than Docherty over a six month peroid but the kind souls they are they are going to pay Kamberis full wages.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/ibrox-sources-rangers-have-agreed-6-figure-signing-in-wages/

jacomo
10-02-2020, 07:47 PM
Would bite the Huns hands off for swap deal Docherty for Kamberi. Not sure what Docherty contract situation is or wages but according to the Huns Kamberi earns £100 000 more than Docherty over a six month peroid but the kind souls they are they are going to pay Kamberis full wages.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/ibrox-sources-rangers-have-agreed-6-figure-signing-in-wages/


£1m + Doherty and I would consider doing business.

04Sauzee
10-02-2020, 07:52 PM
Would bite the Huns hands off for swap deal Docherty for Kamberi. Not sure what Docherty contract situation is or wages but according to the Huns Kamberi earns £100 000 more than Docherty over a six month peroid but the kind souls they are they are going to pay Kamberis full wages.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/ibrox-sources-rangers-have-agreed-6-figure-signing-in-wages/
I'd be very surprised if Kamberi is on a bigger wage than Docherty.

Hibs90
10-02-2020, 07:52 PM
If Marciano is to go, sign Bogdan and bring in Hladky as back-up.

PH91
10-02-2020, 08:01 PM
Well, I'll wait till he's played more than 120 minutes before making claims like we can build the team around him. Ridiculous thing to say at this stage. If he starts on Wednesday we'll get a better idea.

I'll be surprised if he lives up to this hype.

Equally ridiculous to value him after only 120 mins.

The 90+2
10-02-2020, 08:03 PM
If Marciano is to go, sign Bogdan and bring in Hladky as back-up.

Hladky to huns as back up.

1875Sean
10-02-2020, 08:08 PM
£1m + Doherty and I would consider doing business.

Sure it was said Rangers have a fee agreed of around 750k to make the move permanent at the end of the loan if they wish

h1bs4life
10-02-2020, 08:11 PM
I'd be very surprised if Kamberi is on a bigger wage than Docherty.

Agreed no doubt its to let the Hun masses know that money is no object and they will pay what it takes to get Gerards striking target in .

Unseen work
10-02-2020, 08:23 PM
Docherty was signed for about 650k and although hasn’t done much for Rangers he done very well for Shrewsbury and still has a while to go on his contract. I imagine Rangers would want more than we could afford and I’m sure some English teams would be closer in terms of fee.

It’s a huge summer window, one we need to be very smart about and recruit the right personnel and finally get some balance to the squad.

Think we will be priced out of McNulty again but will sign Omeonga.

CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 09:18 PM
£800K for Docherty - overtaking current club record fee
£200K for Omeonga

I’d be very happy if we got those two in but £1M for two players seems very unlikely unless you are in fantasy land

If we get £500k for Kamberi we are half way there.

Brightside
10-02-2020, 09:21 PM
Docherty is never worth 800k to Hibs. Crazy talk. We'd be mental to pay that.

We could sell him for £2m after a full season. He’d be our best player by a distance.

CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 09:26 PM
He's only been allowed to play in one game so far.

Good point

DstN75
10-02-2020, 09:58 PM
If we get £500k for Kamberi we are half way there.

Sorry but I don't believe we'd pay 800k for anybody who we could realistically attract. It's just not practical within the structure of our current finances. And that's without even addressing the issue of whether Docherty is worth it, which I don't think he is.

CMurdoch
10-02-2020, 11:15 PM
Sorry but I don't believe we'd pay 800k for anybody who we could realistically attract. It's just not practical within the structure of our current finances. And that's without even addressing the issue of whether Docherty is worth it, which I don't think he is.

We were looking to pay half that amount to Dunfermline for Nisbet in the winter window and there is every chance that he might not be able to make the step up to the top Division or may simply start blowing as cold as he did before the age of 21.

Docherty looks a cast iron 7 out of 10 every week and would have a double your money sell on value like McGinn eventually did after giving us lots of good service. As you say it probably won't happen or we might get him for £600k.
I think that once Jack Ross gets used to having him around he won't want to give him back and have to start playing average Joe's in midfield again.

DstN75
10-02-2020, 11:20 PM
We were looking to pay half that amount to Dunfermline for Nisbet in the winter window and there is every chance that he might not be able to make the step up to the top Division or may simply start blowing as cold as he did before the age of 21.

Docherty looks a cast iron 7 out of 10 every week and would have a double your money sell on value like McGinn eventually did after giving us lots of good service. As you say it probably won't happen or we might get him for £600k.
I think that once Jack Ross gets used to having him around he won't want to give him back and have to start playing average Joe's in midfield again.

Fair enough, you may be right, although I feel like you're basing this on a pretty slim data sample.

I'd only point out that I really want to go snowboarding this year but my desire is not precisely correlated to my ability to do so.

Seveno
11-02-2020, 12:05 PM
Getting a good fee for Kamberi could make a huge difference to our transfer window. If McNulty can negotiate a fee with Reading to terminate his contract then we would be able to offer a good signing on fee whilst offering a wage within our budget. Likewise with Docherty.

CMurdoch
11-02-2020, 12:20 PM
Fair enough, you may be right, although I feel like you're basing this on a pretty slim data sample.

I'd only point out that I really want to go snowboarding this year but my desire is not precisely correlated to my ability to do so.

Top Tips - If you manage to go protect the back of your head.
Skii'd in Colorado once and saw hunners of snow boarders crash and they seemed to invariably land on the back of their heids. Put me right af that caper.

Hibbyradge
11-02-2020, 12:20 PM
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/uploads/monthly_2017_09/788383.jpg.1353c9b7e32142a7d6610cbebca60ac2.jpg

:tee hee:

Vault Boy
11-02-2020, 05:10 PM
John Potter all but confirmed during his press conference that we'd want to bring Docherty in permanently if possible. Not really news given he's a very good player, but looks like we'll at least try and pursue it.

hfc rd
11-02-2020, 05:19 PM
John Potter all but confirmed during his press conference that we'd want to bring Docherty in permanently if possible. Not really news given he's a very good player, but looks like we'll at least try and pursue it.


Swap deal for Kamberi, I’d imagine?

erin go bragh
11-02-2020, 05:50 PM
£800K for Docherty - overtaking current club record fee
£200K for Omeonga

I’d be very happy if we got those two in but £1M for two players seems very unlikely unless you are in fantasy land
If we are valuing Kamberi at 2m . Surly they would have to pay us a fee and we get Docherty. No way will we pay them 800k .

h1bs4life
11-02-2020, 06:05 PM
If we are valuing Kamberi at 2m . Surly they would have to pay us a fee and we get Docherty. No way will we pay them 800k .

The way the Huns have tapped up Kamberi they have made it near impossible for him to return to Hibs. If they even want him when his loan is up it will be a derisory bid. If we get chance for swap we should grab it with both hands.

J-C
11-02-2020, 06:19 PM
If we are valuing Kamberi at 2m . Surly they would have to pay us a fee and we get Docherty. No way will we pay them 800k .

Kamberi's nowhere near worth £2m, be lucky to get between £500-700k with 1 year left.

Since452
11-02-2020, 06:21 PM
The way the Huns have tapped up Kamberi they have made it near impossible for him to return to Hibs. If they even want him when his loan is up it will be a derisory bid. If we get chance for swap we should grab it with both hands.

I think Kamberi has made it impossible for himself not so much Rangers.

Smartie
12-02-2020, 07:05 AM
I think Kamberi has made it impossible for himself not so much Rangers.

Rangers gave him the platform to shoot his mouth off, and I’d be amazed if they didn’t nudge him in the direction of making a permanent move as cheap and easy as possible for them.

It’s the sort of thing they do.

MrRobot
12-02-2020, 09:57 AM
Some sort of deal involving Docherty on a permanent deal would be ideal IMO.