Quarter final draw - Hibs v ICT

[Eyrie]

Fri night - St Mirren or Motherwell vs Aberdeen or Kilmarnock - BBC
Sat noon - Hearts vs Rangers - Premier
Sat night - Hibs vs Inverness - BBC
Sun afternoon - St Johnstone vs Celtic - Premier

The Rangers and Celtic games are shoe ins for the above time slots.
No way Police Scotland want loads of Rangers fans firing about Edinburgh on Saturday night.

Sevco won't want a lunch time game if they've travelled back from Portugal, so it's more likely that their game at the Tiny PBS will be 6pm and our game at 12 noon. Plenty of time between the two matches.

[Eyrie]

Mind boggling man. Have they seen their draws in both cups?

I think that's the point. We get teams at a lower level than us, they get teams at the same level they're at.

[The 90+2]

I think that's the point. We get teams at a lower level than us, they get teams at the same level they're at.

Fair point. 👍

[The 90+2]

Sevco won't want a lunch time game if they've travelled back from Portugal, so it's more likely that their game at the Tiny PBS will be 6pm and our game at 12 noon. Plenty of time between the two matches.

When’s the last ferry back to Northern Ireland on a Saturday?

[WoreTheGreen]

When’s the last ferry back to Northern Ireland on a Saturday?

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[emerald green]

Even though Celtic have officially got an away tie at St J, it will be just like a home tie for them now that St J have decided to surrender three sides of their stadium to Celtic supporters.

[Keith_M]

....A chance to try out the singing section in FF lower as well perhaps


I agree that it would be a good idea, just to get a sense of the level of interest, or even just to do something a bit different for the day.

I think that will depend on whether the club want to guarantee ST Holders the right to buy tickets for their own seats, though, so they might need to be persuaded to take a different approach this time.

Whoever puts the idea to the club would have to prepare a decent case for it, to 'win them over' as it were.

[Joe6-2]

Draw has been very kind to us

We will take that, it doesn’t happen too often

[The 90+2]

1690

Walked into that one 😁

[B.H.F.C]

I agree that it would be a good idea, just to get a sense of the level of interest, or even just to do something a bit different for the day.

I think that will depend on whether the club want to guarantee ST Holders the right to buy tickets for their own seats, so they might need to be persuaded to take a different approach this time.

Whoever puts the idea to the club would have to prepare a decent case for it, to 'win them over' as it were.

They aren’t going to do anything radical with pricing. It’d be good to see them try something a wee bit different to generate a bit of atmosphere though. I don’t know what, but it’d be good to see them thinking outside the box a bit.

Chances are it will be the standard approach. 20 odd quid for a ticket, 7 or 8 thousand empty seats and the club not really trying to push or market it.

[emerald green]

Can't ask for any more than a home draw in a cup competition, but ICT will be no pushovers given our defensive frailties.

It's something their wee fat manager will be well aware of.

[WoreTheGreen]

Walked into that one 😁

Tap in

[Keith_M]

They aren’t going to do anything radical with pricing. It’d be good to see them try something a wee bit different to generate a bit of atmosphere though. I don’t know what, but it’d be good to see them thinking outside the box a bit.

Chances are it will be the standard approach. 20 odd quid for a ticket, 7 or 8 thousand empty seats and them club not really trying to push or market it.


You're probably right about the price. It's worth making an approach about the FF Lower, though, from any group interested.

As I mentioned, they'd really need to be careful about how they approach the club and prepare a good argument in favour. There's definitely good and bad ways of approaching this and assuming a negative result before the event will probably result in just that.

[WeeRussell]

Very good draw. We ended up being fairly ‘comfortable’ in the end against Dundee Utd which was an away tie initially. No excuses for not dealing with ICT at home now.

Then anyone but old firm in the semi.

Then actual semi time.

Our season could get a lot more exciting all of a sudden.

[Leith's finest]

Hope they do not price the game out. Would love to see £15 per adult and £10 per kid/over 65 etc but can't see that happening. From what I hear when Hearts played Airdrie it was £10 per head, can't remember last time we done that

[hibbysam]

They aren’t going to do anything radical with pricing. It’d be good to see them try something a wee bit different to generate a bit of atmosphere though. I don’t know what, but it’d be good to see them thinking outside the box a bit.

Chances are it will be the standard approach. 20 odd quid for a ticket, 7 or 8 thousand empty seats and the club not really trying to push or market it.

It’s the quarter final of the Scottish cup, at home, against a lower league side. If folk can’t be arsed to get along to ER because it’s £20/£22 then that’s their loss. The game shouldn’t need marketed, folk should be fighting over tickets for it. Simple truth is that folk will always find an excuse not to go, reducing the price by a fiver won’t change that, and the club aren’t going to take that loss.

[Hibbyradge]

Hope they do not price the game out. Would love to see £15 per adult and £10 per kid/over 65 etc but can't see that happening. From what I hear when Hearts played Airdrie it was £10 per head, can't remember last time we done that

£15, £20 or £23 will make no absolutely difference to the attendance.

[Lancs Harp]

A James Keating goal the last time we played them in the cup quarter finals in 2016. Attendance that day was just under 10,000.

[B.H.F.C]

It’s the quarter final of the Scottish cup, at home, against a lower league side. If folk can’t be arsed to get along to ER because it’s £20/£22 then that’s their loss. The game shouldn’t need marketed, folk should be fighting over tickets for it. Simple truth is that folk will always find an excuse not to go, reducing the price by a fiver won’t change that, and the club aren’t going to take that loss.

On the basis that folk won’t be fighting over tickets, they do need to try something different to fill the place. Doing the same thing as they’ve done historically will result in the same thing happening which is quite al lot of empty seats.

If it’s not price related, which it won’t be, then they need to try something to fill the place, create a better atmosphere or whatever.

[Hibbyradge]

On the basis that folk won’t be fighting over tickets, they do need to try something different to fill the place. Doing the same thing as they’ve done historically will result in the same thing happening which is quite al lot of empty seats.

If it’s not price related, which it won’t be, then they need to try something to fill the place, create a better atmosphere or whatever.

I think, and I hope, that we'll hear about plans to start making going to ER more attractive to more people.

I'm not sure what that will entail, but I agree with you that we need to improve the offering, and not just on the pitch.

[hibbysam]

On the basis that folk won’t be fighting over tickets, they do need to try something different to fill the place. Doing the same thing as they’ve done historically will result in the same thing happening which is quite al lot of empty seats.

If it’s not price related, which it won’t be, then they need to try something to fill the place, create a better atmosphere or whatever.

Dropping the price won’t get folk to come along though. They would just make one of the other excuses - ‘weather’ ‘kick off time’ ‘it’s on tele’ etc.

I’m not sure what else the club would try either, they’re not going to write off large chunks of money to cut prices so much that folk turn up, moving the singing section won’t get the rest of the ground filled, I'm intrigued.

[Peevemor]

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[The 90+2]

A James Keating goal the last time we played them in the cup quarter finals in 2016. Attendance that day was just under 10,000.

Very different circumstances though.

[Nicho87]

Last year we were sat night.
2 games Sunday
Partick v jumbos. Monday night

Would take a Friday night kick off.

Give us some extra rest for the derby on the tuesday

[B.H.F.C]

Dropping the price won’t get folk to come along though. They would just make one of the other excuses - ‘weather’ ‘kick off time’ ‘it’s on tele’ etc.

I’m not sure what else the club would try either, they’re not going to write off large chunks of money to cut prices so much that folk turn up, moving the singing section won’t get the rest of the ground filled, I'm intrigued.

A significant enough drop would sell more. Hearts got nearly 15k for the Airdrie game, but it wasn’t just a token £2 decrease or something.

Failing them dropping prices significantly, which won’t happen and I understand why that’ll be the case, I think they need to do something a bit different in the stadium. Be it the unallocated seating idea behind the goals, closing the top tiers to keep the crowd closer to the pitch to try and create a better atmosphere, giving the schools tickets or whatever.

I don’t know the answer but it’s no good when you have 8 or 9 thousand rattling round the 3 home stands. If they can’t do anything to fill the seats I’d just like to see them trying to do something to make it better for those in the ground.

[hibbysam]

A significant enough drop would sell more. Hearts got nearly 15k for the Airdrie game, but it wasn’t just a token £2 decrease or something.

Failing them dropping prices significantly, which won’t happen and I understand why that’ll be the case, I think they need to do something a bit different in the stadium. Be it the unallocated seating idea behind the goals, closing the top tiers to keep the crowd closer to the pitch to try and create a better atmosphere, giving the schools tickets or whatever.

I don’t know the answer but it’s no good when you have 8 or 9 thousand rattling round the 3 home stands. If they can’t do anything to fill the seats I’d just like to see them trying to do something to make it better for those in the ground.

Of course pinging it down to £10 or less will sell a couple of thousand more, but it wouldn’t cover the loss to both sides for the drop hence why it wouldn’t happen.

I’m absolutely not against selling from the bottom up and from the middle out to get a better atmosphere, and unfortunately we can’t give tickets away as again, it would cost the club money stumping up for thousands of tickets that weren’t paid for to give ICT their ‘half’ of the cut.

I also don’t think much will improve the atmosphere at these games, as crap as that sounds. Games where we are expected to win, less ‘glamourous’ games just don’t tend to bring a decent atmosphere with hibs fans nowadays.

[Hibbyradge]

A significant enough drop would sell more. Hearts got nearly 15k for the Airdrie game, but it wasn’t just a token £2 decrease or something.

Failing them dropping prices significantly, which won’t happen and I understand why that’ll be the case, I think they need to do something a bit different in the stadium. Be it the unallocated seating idea behind the goals, closing the top tiers to keep the crowd closer to the pitch to try and create a better atmosphere, giving the schools tickets or whatever.

I don’t know the answer but it’s no good when you have 8 or 9 thousand rattling round the 3 home stands. If they can’t do anything to fill the seats I’d just like to see them trying to do something to make it better for those in the ground.

Hearts game against Airdrie was the 4th round in the middle of January, at a time that their fans were losing patience with their entire club.

This is a quarter final and I'd expect around 14k depending on when it's played, more if our results running up to the game are decent.

Dropping the price to £12, same as the Duncans' did, won't increase the attendance by a significant number and it certainly won't make financial sense so ICT won't agree anyway.

Hibs have tried lowering prices before, but the bodies haven't turned up.

[B.H.F.C]

Hearts game against Airdrie was the 4th round in the middle of January, at a time that their fans were losing patience with their entire club.

This is a quarter final and I'd expect around 14k depending on when it's played, more if our results running up to the game are decent.

Dropping the price to £12, same as the Duncans' did, won't increase the attendance by a significant number and it certainly won't make financial sense do ICT won't agree anyway.

Hibs have tried lowering prices before, but the bodies haven't turned up.

At 20ish quid I don’t see us getting over 14k. Think we got close to that against Ayr a couple of years back (with a large away support) but other recent ER quarter finals have been four figure attendances.

I understand why they won’t drop the pricing but we are rarely interested in actually trying to do anything a bit different which frustrates me.

[Borderhibbie76]

Best draw possible. We really have had a fair bit of luck with these over the last few years, long may it continue! Big opportunity for a trip to Hampden.

Have we??? Weve been drawn at PBS 3 times in last 5 years...Celtic at home last season and we had a tough away draw to start this years run too.

Could have been worse but I wouldn't say weve been that lucky tbh

[JohnMcM]

Walked into that one 😁

No you didn't.

You marched into it, led by a flute playing band.:na na:

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Ah ...Half past Five in Euros

[hibbyfraelibby]

Dropping the price won’t get folk to come along though. They would just make one of the other excuses - ‘weather’ ‘kick off time’ ‘it’s on tele’ etc.

I’m not sure what else the club would try either, they’re not going to write off large chunks of money to cut prices so much that folk turn up, moving the singing section won’t get the rest of the ground filled, I'm intrigued.

The price is the price. Why cut it when it will not measurably increase the gate or the total receipts buf will result in less money for the club to use on the squad down the line?

[hibbysam]

The price is the price. Why cut it when it will not measurably increase the gate or the total receipts buf will result in less money for the club to use on the squad down the line?

That’s the point I’m making.

[Vault Boy]

Have we??? Weve been drawn at PBS 3 times in last 5 years...Celtic at home last season and we had a tough away draw to start this years run too.

Could have been worse but I wouldn't say weve been that lucky tbh

We've avoided Celtic or Rangers until the final most years since 2012, I'd say we've had our share of luck.

[steelendhibs]

How quickly do they announce when the games will be and on what channels?

[21.05.2016]

Good draw but don't for one minute think it'll be an easy game. ICT have always seemed to be a bit of a bogey team for us in the past.

However, last time we got them in the SC quarters . . . :greengrin

[CallumLaidlaw]

How quickly do they announce when the games will be and on what channels?

Considering it’s less than 3 weeks away, I’d expect an announcement at the start of the week


Update - it took 5 days from the last draw to the tv announcement, so by Friday at the latest probably.

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[The 90+2]

Considering it’s less than 3 weeks away, I’d expect an announcement at the start of the week


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We only got told about the TV games for today’s round on the 28th Jan. 9 days after the draw.

[CallumLaidlaw]

We only got told about the TV games for today’s round on the 28th Jan. 9 days after the draw.

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/scottish-cup-fifth-round-televised-fixtures-announced/

24th. 5 days after the draw.


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[The 90+2]

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/scottish-cup-fifth-round-televised-fixtures-announced/

24th. 5 days after the draw.


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Cool I must have looked at the report after we won the replay 👍

[matty_f]

The derby won’t be moved. The TV ain’t going to amend their scheduling.

I really hope the derby is moved, mate got me tickets for gig on the same night. 😫

[Hibbyradge]

I think they'll wait until after the second replay on Wednesday.

Frustrating for those of us trying to book cheap train fares.

[Carheenlea]

£20 for a Scottish Cup Quarter final would be very reasonable pricing. Should probably be slightly more.

[Dublin07]

I think we will be Friday night on bbc. Battle of the huns on Premier sat lunch time the other bbc game Saturday night involving the 2 replays and celtic Sunday afternoon on Premier. Based on matches chose by TV so far in the competition and us and hearts both at home and playing again Tuesday.

[Steven79]

I think they'll wait until after the second replay on Wednesday.

Frustrating for those of us trying to book cheap train fares.The replays are on the week after on Tuesday and Wednesday.

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[MWHIBBIES]

Easy draw, Hearts pumped them last year. 3-0 or 3-1 to Hibs. Wish we'd have some confidence. Folk thinking today was some banana skin. We were rubbish and still won so easily. Brilliant draw. Thinking about the semi already.

[Sammy7nil]

Easy draw, Hearts pumped them last year. 3-0 or 3-1 to Hibs. Wish we'd have some confidence. Folk thinking today was some banana skin. We were rubbish and still won so easily. Brilliant draw. Thinking about the semi already.

Me too will win 8 - 5 with our defence playing a blinder :greengrin

[mca]

Hearts v Sevco..

stevie g and the team will not be happy to lose there again.. They Need to Win a Cup !!!

possibly a good few yellow cards and possibly a few injuries.. think it's going to be a controversial game :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

The replays are on the week after on Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Right. I thought it was this week.

I'm having a date nightmare today. :hilarious

[21.05.2016]

Hearts v Sevco..

stevie g and the team will not be happy to lose there again.. They Need to Win a Cup !!!

possibly a good few yellow cards and possibly a few injuries.. think it's going to be a controversial game :greengrin

The result the other week was one of those random freak results. Hearts by all accounts played well that day and deserved to win but the reality is they are murder so I highly doubt lightening will strike twice. They got lucky and squeezed past Falkirk last night.

Magic of the cup and all that, anything can happen but just can't see a team as rank as hearts beating Rangers twice in the space of a couple of months. But hey ho, kind of hoping they do as Rangers are a much better side and I'd far more fancy us against hearts than them if we were both to progress to the semis or final.

[Roxyhibee]

Best draw possible. We really have had a fair bit of luck with these over the last few years, long may it continue! Big opportunity for a trip to Hampden.

We’ve been lucky in the SC draws last few years have we.? - Compared to who exactly...?

[The 90+2]

The result the other week was one of those random freak results. Hearts by all accounts played well that day and deserved to win but the reality is they are murder so I highly doubt lightening will strike twice. They got lucky and squeezed past Falkirk last night.

Magic of the cup and all that, anything can happen but just can't see a team as rank as hearts beating Rangers twice in the space of a couple of months. But hey ho, kind of hoping they do as Rangers are a much better side and I'd far more fancy us against hearts than them if we were both to progress to the semis or final.

Me too. Hearts won’t win the cup, I want them in the Semi.

[mjhibby]

We’ve been lucky in the SC draws last few years have we.? - Compared to who exactly...?

Dundee utd away was the hardest draw any spl team got. Bsc was a decent draw but the wind was a great leveller. Our neighbours have twice got to cup finals without playing a top flight team. Now that's lucky.

[CentreLine]

Me too. Hearts won’t win the cup, I want them in the Semi.

Yep. But just remember, there will be all that debate about using Murrayfield for the game. Got to save all those troublesome Edinburgh types having to travel all the way to Glasgow for a game

[Aldo]

Yams I know are seething and reckon it’s rigged. One even insisted he will be writing to Budge to get it drawn again..... deluded btw


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[Dave spart]

I smell a nice wee run to the final and an open topped bus to follow.

[Springbank]

Yep. But just remember, there will be all that debate about using Murrayfield for the game. Got to save all those troublesome Edinburgh types having to travel all the way to Glasgow for a game

Tbf I dont know of any club on earth whose fans moan more about a 42mile journey than ours.

Theres a lot of clubs & cities worldwide (some South London/Brighton derbies etc) where 42miles is just about the local derby

[Since452]

Hearts Scottish Cup draws last season

Livingston Home
Auckinleck Talbot Home
Patrick Thistle Away
Inverness Home

They have a cheek to complain

[Onion]

Anyone linking the words Hibs. Scottish Cup and lucky are desperate and deranged.

[Hibbyradge]

Hearts Scottish Cup draws last season

Livingston Home
Auckinleck Talbot Home
Patrick Thistle Away
Inverness Home

They have a cheek to complain

Hearts got Gretna in the final.

Gretna!

[Steven79]

Hearts got Gretna in the final.

Gretna!And they still needed penalties to beat them...

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[Smartie]

We seemed to get horrendous draws for a while, there’s no doubt the draw has been generous to us in recent years.

[Vault Boy]

We’ve been lucky in the SC draws last few years have we.? - Compared to who exactly...?

Avoiding Celtic and Rangers until the final almost every year since ~2012. That's good fortune in my book.

[Roxyhibee]

Avoiding Celtic and Rangers until the final almost every year since ~2012. That's good fortune in my book.

You do know we got Celtic in the QF last season..? And Tynecastle 3 seasons in a row before that.?! (2 when we were a Championship side.)

So what teams do you reckon have had bad fortune in the draws the past few years.?

[Vault Boy]

You do know we got Celtic in the QF last season..? And Tynecastle 3 seasons in a row before that.?! (2 when we were a Championship side.)

So what teams do you reckon have had bad fortune in the draws the past few years.?

Yes I'm fully aware, that's why I said most years. I would say that any team who's drawn Rangers or Celtic more than once in 8 years is less fortunate.

[calumhibee1]

Praying if we get through this that we’d be the Saturday semi. Away to America on the Sunday!

[KWJ]

With Hibs and Hearts having home ties the weekend before a televised Tuesday night derby are one of us going to be playing Sunday then Tuesday?

Can they have a lunch time kick off at Tynie and us at 3pm on the same day?

[Roxyhibee]

Yes I'm fully aware, that's why I said most years. I would say that any team who's drawn Rangers or Celtic more than once in 8 years is less fortunate.

Well we’ve met them twice in the past 8 years but that’s quite a little loose OF formula you’ve got going on in your rationale there. Do you think any team getting drawn in the early rounds to Tynecastle 3 years in a row (including Celtic and Rangers) would consider themselves fortunate.? I just dont see why any Hibs fan would say we’ve been lucky in the Scottish Cup draws in the past few years. Again, I’d ask who do you think amongst the Hearts and Aberdeens have had difficult draws..? We even had the hardest opening round against Dundee Utd a few weeks back that none of the other top teams would have relished.

[Hibbyradge]

With Hibs and Hearts having home ties the weekend before a televised Tuesday night derby are one of us going to be playing Sunday then Tuesday?

Can they have a lunch time kick off at Tynie and us at 3pm on the same day?

Lunchtime and evening is possible.

[SHODAN]

With Hibs and Hearts having home ties the weekend before a televised Tuesday night derby are one of us going to be playing Sunday then Tuesday?

Can they have a lunch time kick off at Tynie and us at 3pm on the same day?

Us Friday, them Saturday.

[ABZHFC]

Tbf I dont know of any club on earth whose fans moan more about a 42mile journey than ours.

Theres a lot of clubs & cities worldwide (some South London/Brighton derbies etc) where 42miles is just about the local derby

Spot on, I don't know if it stems from (justifiable) anti-Glasgow attitudes, but it really is a very short trip to make.

[Vault Boy]

Well we’ve met them twice in the past 8 years but that’s quite a little loose OF formula you’ve got going on in your rationale there. Do you think any team getting drawn in the early rounds to Tynecastle 3 years in a row (including Celtic and Rangers) would consider themselves fortunate.? I just dont see why any Hibs fan would say we’ve been lucky in the Scottish Cup draws in the past few years. Again, I’d ask who do you think amongst the Hearts and Aberdeens have had difficult draws..? We even had the hardest opening round against Dundee Utd a few weeks back that none of the other top teams would have relished.

We've been drawn against an OF side once since 2011, I don't have much memory of ties before then but that's long enough to prove my point. We've 'met' them in a couple of finals, but IMO we've done well to avoid them, more so than Hearts and Aberdeen, for example. We got all the way to the semi final without playing a top flight side back in 14/15 and have generally gotten ties that I would consider to be more favourible at this stage in the competition.

You're welcome to disagree with that, but I personally like that we've managed to avoid the OF for the most part over the last 9 years.

[SHODAN]

We've had great Scottish Cup draws in recent seasons.

Our toughest run of teams, ironically, was 2016.

[JohnMcM]

Praying if we get through this that we’d be the Saturday semi. Away to America on the Sunday!

When you go will you send back a letter from America?

[Roxyhibee]

We've been drawn against an OF side once since 2011, I don't have much memory of ties before then but that's long enough to prove my point. We've 'met' them in a couple of finals, but IMO we've done well to avoid them, more so than Hearts and Aberdeen, for example. We got all the way to the semi final without playing a top flight side back in 14/15 and have generally gotten ties that I would consider to be more favourible at this stage in the competition.

You're welcome to disagree with that, but I personally like that we've managed to avoid the OF for the most part over the last 9 years.

Oh it’s the ‘“last 9 years’” now. Ok, well for a start, in most of that time, The Rangers can hardly have been considered a draw to dread for a lot of teams like Hibs, Hearts, Sheep, Utd, so that dilutes your theory by a significant percentage. Can I remind you we have met Celtic twice and Rangers once in an attempt to get our hands on the trophy.. (3 times in your 9 year theory)

The past 3 seasons alone since we’ve won it we’ve been put out by Hearts at Tynie, Aberdeen and Celtic. All difficult ties for any top team.

I’m assuming your comparison is against Hearts, but did you consider their run to the Final last year - and the fact they drew their rivals on their own home turf in that time.?

[hibbysam]

Yes I'm fully aware, that's why I said most years. I would say that any team who's drawn Rangers or Celtic more than once in 8 years is less fortunate.

We played Hearts 4 times, Aberdeen once and Celtic once before the semi final stage.

Hearts played us 4 times, Aberdeen once and Celtic twice.

Aberdeen played Hibs, Hearts, Celtic and Rangers once.

Rangers played Aberdeen once.

Celtic played Hibs and Aberdeen once and Hearts twice.

We don't really get it easy do we? Our four toughest fixtures throughout a year and we have barely avoided all of them til the semi's apart from one season 2014/15.

[SquashedFrogg]

Tbf I dont know of any club on earth whose fans moan more about a 42mile journey than ours.

Theres a lot of clubs & cities worldwide (some South London/Brighton derbies etc) where 42miles is just about the local derby

To be fair, you can't really compare Hibs v Hearts with a South London/Brighton derby.

I does seem a bit strange to have two teams from one city, both travel 40 odd miles to play a match when there's a far better solution right on the door step. Also, are we not currently trying to save the planet? :greengrin

[Vault Boy]

Oh it’s the ‘“last 9 years’” now. Ok, well for a start, in most of that time, The Rangers can hardly have been considered a draw to dread for a lot of teams like Hibs, Hearts, Sheep, Utd, so that dilutes your theory by a significant percentage. Can I remind you we have met Celtic twice and Rangers once in an attempt to get our hands on the trophy.. (3 times in your 9 year theory)

The past 3 seasons alone since we’ve won it we’ve been put out by Hearts at Tynie, Aberdeen and Celtic. All difficult ties for any top team.

I’m assuming your comparison is against Hearts, but did you consider their run to the Final last year - and the fact they drew their rivals on their own home turf in that time.?

Last 9 years yes. I wasn't making a comparison, I very simply pointed out the factual statement that we have been drawn against the OF once since 2011, I'm happy about that. I don't know why it's been so upsetting to you, by no means does it mean we've had it easy in the Scottish Cup, but we absolutely have gotten some decent draws over the last 9 years, particularly in the latter stages of the competition.

I'd much rather play Hearts at Tynie or Aberdeen than I would Celtic or Rangers prior to the final round and we've done that 8 out of the last 9 years.

[Vault Boy]

We played Hearts 4 times, Aberdeen once and Celtic once before the semi final stage.

Hearts played us 4 times, Aberdeen once and Celtic twice.

Aberdeen played Hibs, Hearts, Celtic and Rangers once.

Rangers played Aberdeen once.

Celtic played Hibs and Aberdeen once and Hearts twice.

We don't really get it easy do we? Our four toughest fixtures throughout a year and we have barely avoided all of them til the semi's apart from one season 2014/15.

I didn't say we get it easy. I said we've been fortunate not to draw Celtic or Rangers most years. Particularly for a team that has gotten to the semi finals stage so often in recent times.

[Roxyhibee]

We played Hearts 4 times, Aberdeen once and Celtic once before the semi final stage.

Hearts played us 4 times, Aberdeen once and Celtic twice.

Aberdeen played Hibs, Hearts, Celtic and Rangers once.

Rangers played Aberdeen once.

Celtic played Hibs and Aberdeen once and Hearts twice.

We don't really get it easy do we? Our four toughest fixtures throughout a year and we have barely avoided all of them til the semi's apart from one season 2014/15.

Well said. Plus our Scottish Cup record and performances have been generally excellent and entertaining in the past several years.

[Vault Boy]

Plus our Scottish Cup record and performances have been generally excellent and entertaining in the past several years.

I agree with this. I've loved our Scottish Cup runs over the last few years and hope that we're able to return to Hampden this year too.

[Roxyhibee]

Last 9 years yes. I wasn't making a comparison, I very simply pointed out the factual statement that we have been drawn against the OF once since 2011, I'm happy about that. I don't know why it's been so upsetting to you, by no means does it mean we've had it easy in the Scottish Cup, but we absolutely have gotten some decent draws over the last 9 years, particularly in the latter stages of the competition.

I'd much rather play Hearts at Tynie or Aberdeen than I would Celtic or Rangers prior to the final round and we've done that 8 out of the last 9 years.

You would much rather play Aberdeen or Hearts at Tynie than The Rangers in most of those years you’re mentioning.? They were rank for at half those seasons.

I’m really not upset but bewildered as to why a Hibs fan would suggest we get an easy time in the Scottish Cup compared to others.

[Vault Boy]

You would much rather play Aberdeen or Hearts at Tynie than The Rangers in most of those years you’re mentioning.? They were rank for at half those seasons.

I’m really not upset but bewildered as to why a Hibs fan would suggest we get an easy time in the Scottish Cup compared to others.

I said we have had our share of luck. Didn't once say we have it easy. That should be the end of that.

[Seveno]

Before we get too carried away, ICT played well enough to beat Livingston so they could play well enough to beat us.

[Roxyhibee]

I said we have had our share of luck. Didn't once say we have it easy. That should be the end of that.

Ok. End of discussion.

[hibbysam]

I didn't say we get it easy. I said we've been fortunate not to draw Celtic or Rangers most years. Particularly for a team that has gotten to the semi finals stage so often in recent times.

You said ‘more so than hearts or Aberdeen’ which comparing all three is hardly any different.

[Keith_M]

Spot on, I don't know if it stems from (justifiable) anti-Glasgow attitudes, but it really is a very short trip to make.


I live next to Hampden and my preference would be to play Finals at Murrayfield.


I know, wierd

:greengrin

[monktonharp]

At 20ish quid I don’t see us getting over 14k. Think we got close to that against Ayr a couple of years back (with a large away support) but other recent ER quarter finals have been four figure attendances.

I understand why they won’t drop the pricing but we are rarely interested in actually trying to do anything a bit different which frustrates me.does the same for me. no initiative, no real alteration or incentive to get more fans in. how about offering a way of giving attendees first chance at an extra semi-final ticket, if we get there? fill the bloody place!

[monktonharp]

Spot on, I don't know if it stems from (justifiable) anti-Glasgow attitudes, but it really is a very short trip to make.a very short distance nowadays. so easy with the new M74 section too. junction 2a Polmadie, and tour there. junct. 2, pint in Rutherglen and walk doon or use yer over 60's bus pass:greengrin

[DstN75]

Hearts game against Airdrie was the 4th round in the middle of January, at a time that their fans were losing patience with their entire club.

This is a quarter final and I'd expect around 14k depending on when it's played, more if our results running up to the game are decent.

Dropping the price to £12, same as the Duncans' did, won't increase the attendance by a significant number and it certainly won't make financial sense so ICT won't agree anyway.

Hibs have tried lowering prices before, but the bodies haven't turned up.

This is true. The problem, if you want to call it that, is that the numbers who will turn up whatever the price (within reason) outweigh the people who will become interested when prices are lowered. So the marginal increase in attendance is low.

But that doesn't mean you can't try some other schemes for games like this. Low-price kids tickets, for example, or a 'bring a friend' scheme whereby season tickets can get a second ticket for a fiver, say.

[monktonharp]

This is true. The problem, if you want to call it that, is that the numbers who will turn up whatever the price (within reason) outweigh the people who will become interested when prices are lowered. So the marginal increase in attendance is low.

But that doesn't mean you can't try some other schemes for games like this. Low-price kids tickets, for example, or a 'bring a friend' scheme whereby season tickets can get a second ticket for a fiver, say.stuff like that needs tried.:agree:

[Iggy Pope]

stuff like that needs tried.:agree:

Bring a friend was tried years back. Hopeless.
Definitely an advocate for lower kids pricing, limited and monitored. Cannae have 10,000 wee radges turning up unannounced and pished.

[RoxburghHibs]

Bring a friend was tried years back. Hopeless.
Definitely an advocate for lower kids pricing, limited and monitored. Cannae have 10,000 wee radges turning up unannounced and pished.

Agree with this. The problem with Hibs giving out free tickets (such as bring a friend) is that we would need to pay ICT half the ticket price, so makes zero sense.
However agreeing with them to reduce prices to £15 for adults and £5 for senior citizens and kids sounds far more sensible.

[Hibbyradge]

This is true. The problem, if you want to call it that, is that the numbers who will turn up whatever the price (within reason) outweigh the people who will become interested when prices are lowered. So the marginal increase in attendance is low.

But that doesn't mean you can't try some other schemes for games like this. Low-price kids tickets, for example, or a 'bring a friend' scheme whereby season tickets can get a second ticket for a fiver, say.

Loads of us who don't live in Edinburgh and don't have season tickets will travel for the quarter final. Given that it'll cost a fair amount to get to the game, the ticket price isn't going to stop us going.

Introducing a £5 bring a friend sceme would merely lose Hibs £15 for each of us.

I agree, however, it would be great if something could be done to increase attendances, but we've been wrestling with this since the 70s and 80s when crowds were regularly around 4000.

[Gloucester Hibs]

We tried the £10 a ticket thing for a Saturday league game v ICT once (in 2011) and it did add to the attendance IIRC. This is the only time we’ve trialled it as far as I’m aware so is all the evidence we have? So not sure on what basis folk are arguing to the contrary?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_prem/9406146.stm

[Hibbyradge]

Agree with this. The problem with Hibs giving out free tickets (such as bring a friend) is that we would need to pay ICT half the ticket price, so makes zero sense.
However agreeing with them to reduce prices to £15 for adults and £5 for senior citizens and kids sounds far more sensible.

I don't think taking a fiver off the admission would attract an extra 25 people to the game, never mind the 2500 or whatever it would need to make up the financial loss.

[hibee-boys]

I'd imagine Hibs budget with a cup run in mind so that would impact on ticket prices. However, anything more than £20 and £10 for concessions would be extracting the urine if you ask me. Both teams will be benefitting from TV money as well.

[JXM73]

When was the last time hibs featured live on tv for every round?

[Hibbyradge]

We tried the £10 a ticket thing for a Saturday league game v ICT once (in 2011) and it did add to the attendance IIRC. This is the only time we’ve trialled it as far as I’m aware so is all the evidence we have? So not sure on what basis folk are arguing to the contrary?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_prem/9406146.stm

The argument is that it doesn't make financial sense to slash prices.

It's also unfair on season ticket holders and has implications for future pricing should reductions happen on more than a one-off basis.

The previous ICT game at ER that season attracted a crowd of 11300 do by cutting the walk up price in half, the crowd increased by 2500.

It's a judgement call as to whether it was worth it for the extra bodies, but we took a hit financially.

[B.H.F.C]

We’re happy to write off other revenue streams which probably makes it all the more unlikely that costs will be reduced for the paying supporter.

FWIW, £20 for an adult is fine for a cup quarter final. I think it’s kids pricing they need to look at doing something about. Quite often going to away games they have good family deals on. Maybe because I haven’t had to look I’ve just missed them at Easter Road (I know kids can get decent priced season tickets) but not sure about walk up pricing.

[Hibbyradge]

We’re happy to write off other revenue streams which probably makes it all the more unlikely that costs will be reduced for the paying supporter.

FWIW, £20 for an adult is fine for a cup quarter final. I think it’s kids pricing they need to look at doing something about. Quite often going to away games they have good family deals on. Maybe because I haven’t had to look I’ve just missed them at Easter Road (I know kids can get decent priced season tickets).

How much are kids tickets?

I thought the session ticket packages were very good.

[B.H.F.C]

How much are kids tickets?

I thought the session ticket packages were very good.

Think it’s usually £12 for a category B game. Agree on season tickets.

[hibbyfraelibby]

We tried the £10 a ticket thing for a Saturday league game v ICT once (in 2011) and it did add to the attendance IIRC. This is the only time we’ve trialled it as far as I’m aware so is all the evidence we have? So not sure on what basis folk are arguing to the contrary?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_prem/9406146.stm

...and led to a loss of total income as revenue from additional crowd was insufficient to off-set the loss

[Gloucester Hibs]

...and led to a loss of total income as revenue from additional crowd was insufficient to off-set the loss

I was only arguing from the perspective of increased attendance, as others had mentioned reducing prices had no effect which is untrue.

[Carheenlea]

If ticket price was the only reason fans were giving for not going, then you could see why having a think about pricing would be worthwhile. Problem is that even with “cheap” tickets, there will be many other excuses and reasons for not going along. It’s not a mouthwatering tie as such and it’s unlikely to be at 3pm Saturday, and if it’s on TV them there will be many reasons why tickets won’t be flying out of the shop.

[Phil MaGlass]

Wee idea, bring a friend could give 10% off a ticket and £5 off a Hibs strip in the shop?

[RoxburghHibs]

anything more than £20 and £10 for concessions would be extracting the urine if you ask me. Both teams will be benefitting from TV money as well.

The SFA sets the ticket prices for these matches. If Hibs want to reduce the prices they would need ICT to agree, otherwise £22/£10 it will be.
The issue I have is Hibs fans blaming the club/Leeann for ticket prices when they may be powerless to reduce these.

[Steven79]

The SFA sets the ticket prices for these matches. If Hibs want to reduce the prices they would need ICT to agree, otherwise £22/£10 it will be.
The issue I have is Hibs fans blaming the club/Leeann for ticket prices when they may be powerless to reduce these.That's rubbish.



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[jgl07]

How much are kids tickets?

I thought the session ticket packages were very good.

They are so good that people buy season tickets for the South Lower that they only intend to use three or four times a season!

[B.H.F.C]

The SFA sets the ticket prices for these matches. If Hibs want to reduce the prices they would need ICT to agree, otherwise £22/£10 it will be.
The issue I have is Hibs fans blaming the club/Leeann for ticket prices when they may be powerless to reduce these.

For semi final and finals they set them. Never heard of them setting pricing for earlier rounds.

[Hibbyradge]

That's rubbish.



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Is it?

How so?

Hibs can't set a Scottish Cup price without our opponents agreeing.

[CallumLaidlaw]

The sfa rules say Scottish cup games must be a minimum of £8. That’s all. They have nothing to do with whether Hibs and whoever agree £15 or £22.


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[RoxburghHibs]

That's rubbish.



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Your reply is rubbish.

[staunchhibby]

Also thought both clubs have to agree pricing prior to semi and final

[RoxburghHibs]

The sfa rules say Scottish cup games must be a minimum of £8. That’s all. They have nothing to do with whether Hibs and whoever agree £15 or £22.


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Partly true, as the rule also states:

“If the clubs are unable to agree, the charges which are normally made for the regular fixtures of the club at whose ground the match is to be played, will apply.”

[RoxburghHibs]

Also thought both clubs have to agree pricing prior to semi and final They do need to agree the pricing otherwise the normal pricing applies.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Partly true, as the rule also states:

“If the clubs are unable to agree, the charges which are normally made for the regular fixtures of the club at whose ground the match is to be played, will apply.”

So they definitely did agree for the BSC game then.


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[RoxburghHibs]

So they definitely did agree for the BSC game then.


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I wouldn’t say “definitely” but yeah it’s likely they did agree.

[Keith_M]

They are so good that people buy season tickets for the South Lower that they only intend to use three or four times a season!


You can't buy a Season Ticket for the South Lower.

[Hibbyradge]

You can't buy a Season Ticket for the South Lower.

I'm sure he meant FF Lower but good spot.

Deserved point to you. :greengrin

[CallumLaidlaw]

I wouldn’t say “definitely” but yeah it’s likely they did agree.

Well if they didn’t, they would have to have charged BSC’s usual prices, no?


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[Hibbyradge]

Well if they didn’t, they would have to have charged BSC’s usual prices, no?


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That's my understanding.

[RoxburghHibs]

Well if they didn’t, they would have to have charged BSC’s usual prices, no?


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Exactly and as I don’t know their pricing I wouldn’t say “definitely”.

Ultimately the point is both clubs need to agree the price otherwise it will be £22 for the QF

[B.H.F.C]

Well if they didn’t, they would have to have charged BSC’s usual prices, no?


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BSC obviously wanted to maximise the money they made. Hibs obviously happy to go with that. £20 to stand on a wee grass verge. Great value.

[Hibeesmad]

I see that the Motherwell v St Mirren replay has been priced at £12 adults, £6 concessions and £3 under 16's.

[Keith_M]

I'm sure he meant FF Lower but good spot.

Deserved point to you. :greengrin


Well, if they want to criticise then expect some back

:wink:

[Keith_M]

Killie and Aberdeen have agreed prices for their Cup Replay



£15 adults
£10 concession (Over 65s, U21 and students)
£5 U16s






Incoming!

:offski:

[Hibbyradge]

Killie and Aberdeen have agreed prices for their Cup Replay



£15 adults
£10 concession (Over 65s, U21 and students)
£5 U16s






Incoming!

:offski:

I bet the winners charge more when it's the quarter final.

Like the one we're through to.

[Steven79]

It's a joke that just over two weeks before one of the games could potentially kick off we are still awaiting for the times/dates.

[theonlywayisup]

Just realised that there is a possibility of a Hibs v Aberdeen and Celtic v Hearts semi final draw. I think that's happened before in recent years, but have erased that year's competition from my memory banks.

Thoughts on another Hibs v Hearts final?

[green day]

Just realised that there is a possibility of a Hibs v Aberdeen and Celtic v Hearts semi final draw. I think that's happened before in recent years, but have erased that year's competition from my memory banks.

Thoughts on another Hibs v Hearts final?

If Hearts beat Sevco, there is as much chance we would get them in the semi.........which in some ways I would prefer

[Since90+2]

Just realised that there is a possibility of a Hibs v Aberdeen and Celtic v Hearts semi final draw. I think that's happened before in recent years, but have erased that year's competition from my memory banks.

Thoughts on another Hibs v Hearts final?

Hearts won't be beating Sevco.

[shamo9]

Hearts won't be beating Sevco.

Like they didn't beat them last month. :wink:

Main focus is on Hibs being in the semi final. Don't care about the rest.

[RoxburghHibs]

Killie and Aberdeen have agreed prices for their Cup Replay



£15 adults
£10 concession (Over 65s, U21 and students)
£5 U16s






Incoming!

:offski:

Still less than 6000 turned up. So this is the issue with reducing prices from £22 to £15. It doesn't increase the attendance and the clubs lose money so doesn't make any sense sadly.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Given his shocking treatment by the SFA and their contemptable processes should we give cup winning legend James Keatings a rousing reception when he takes to the field next week...and then pelters when ever he gets on the ball?

[erin go bragh]

Given his shocking treatment by the SFA and their contemptable processes should we give cup winning legend James Keatings a rousing reception when he takes to the field next week...and then pelters when ever he gets on the ball?
We should give him the applause he deserves but in the 80th min ,when he is getting subbed off and we’re winning 3-0 😉

[Eyrie]

If we applaud Keatings then he'll run to the wrong bench :wink:

[GreenCastle]

30 mins to get the reduced price for ST holders.

[SquashedFrogg]

30 mins to get the reduced price for ST holders.

Tickets booked for us. Looking forward to it. Not sure why I always leave these things to the last minute. Adds to the excitement I guess!

[The Modfather]

Still less than 6000 turned up. So this is the issue with reducing prices from £22 to £15. It doesn't increase the attendance and the clubs lose money so doesn't make any sense sadly.

There was only 5,250 at the league fixture on Saturday 24th August. If we’re making one game conclusions would it not show that the lower prices actually increased the attendance?

[660]

There was only 5,250 at the league fixture on Saturday 24th August. If we’re making one game conclusions would it not show that the lower prices actually increased the attendance?

Yeah but they would have taken in more money if they had 5250 at 22 quid.

[The Modfather]

Yeah but they would have taken in more money if they had 5250 at 22 quid.

True, I suppose the age old argument is about the short term boost to finances v trying to turn some of those extra fans into season ticket holders/regulars. The poster I quoted said the price had no effect on attendances when, taking that game in isolation, it would appear to have contributed to a small increase.

[660]

True, I suppose the age old argument is about the short term boost to finances v trying to turn some of those extra fans into season ticket holders/regulars. The poster I quoted said the price had no effect on attendances when, taking that game in isolation, it would appear to have contributed to a small increase.

Yeah I agree that it would be nice if they prioritised attendances in terms of numbers but I can’t see clubs like Kilmarnock turning their noses up at 25-30k