Michael Stewart suspended from Sportsound

[Diclonius]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18214091.michael-stewart-axed-bbc-morelos-interview-fallout/

Not official, but he wasn't there yesterday.

What a ****ing joke. Back to OF sycophants who tow the party line.

[Vault Boy]

Absolutely grim. Unfortunately you knew it would happen as soon as he'd said it.

I think he'll land on his feet though, speaking out against JT will have won him enough supporters alone, never mind years of being the most methodical and interesting pundit in Scottish media.

Maybe losing the BBC shackles will allow him to vocalise more 'controversial' thoughts more often on a different platform. Could end up being a positive thing.

[Hermit Crab]

BBC defending the very club that banned them from Ibrox....:rolleyes:

[hibby rae]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18214091.michael-stewart-axed-bbc-morelos-interview-fallout/

Not official, but he wasn't there yesterday.

What a ****ing joke. Back to OF sycophants who tow the party line.

I had assumed it was because he would be doing Sportscene tonight.

It's shocking. By far the best pundit they have, precisely because he calls it as he sees it and does it objectively.

[Hibee87]

Would he not have been on BT Sport for the Motherwell Celtic game last night :confused:

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

BBC defending the very club that banned them from Ibrox....:rolleyes:

Hoping to get back in there no doubt!

[RoxburghHibs]

BBC defending the very club that banned them from Ibrox....:rolleyes:

Isn't it the other way round?


BBC have boycotted Ibrox due to treatement of one of their reporters by The Rangers?

[HFC93]

BBC defending the very club that banned them from Ibrox....:rolleyes:

Aye, it’s crazy.

[Last Minute]

He was on BT sports last night doing the Celtic game

[KDY Hibs]

Joke of a decision

[The 90+2]

He’s not been banned. He’s doing sportscene for tonight.

[The 90+2]

He was on BT sports last night doing the Celtic game

That’s why he wasn’t on. He’s not contracted to the bbc on days that BT/Premier will show games unless it’s the highlight show.

[Diclonius]

He’s not been banned. He’s doing sportscene for tonight.

Where's this being reported?

[Frazerbob]

Isn't it the other way round?


BBC have boycotted Ibrox due to treatement of one of their reporters by The Rangers?

Correct. The Rangers banned one reporter so the BBC have refused to send anyone else or report from Ibrox since. Not often I applaud the BBC but I do for this.

[DH1875]

He is self employed and was working for BT Sport at the Motherwell game last night.

[The 90+2]

Where's this being reported?

It’s not been reported as it’s not a story. I know he’s presenting tonight.

[scoopyboy]

Where's this being reported?

More to the point where is it reported he's been suspended?

[Is It On....]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18214091.michael-stewart-axed-bbc-morelos-interview-fallout/

Not official, but he wasn't there yesterday.

What a ****ing joke. Back to OF sycophants who tow the party line.

He was on BT though at the Motherwell game.

[DH1875]

He’s not been banned. He’s doing sportscene for tonight.

Apparently not. Hearing it's a 5 day ban lol. 5 days, cannae make it up.

[Since452]

I'd be telling the BBC to ram it. He's a brilliant pundit, he's too good for that shower

[California-Hibs]

I must admit, I listen to the Sportsound podcast daily and would be gutted if he no longer appears on the show. Brilliant pundit!

[Bishop Hibee]

BBC defending the very club that banned them from Ibrox....:rolleyes:

This is what really hacks me off. They should be pressuring the Huns and the SPFL instead of bending over.

[Cataplana]

Apparently not. Hearing it's a 5 day ban lol. 5 days, cannae make it up.

Pretty humiliating for Jabba, who probably wanted him sacked.

[jacomo]

BBC defending the very club that banned them from Ibrox....:rolleyes:


It’s unbelievable isn’t it?

Yet certain people have realised that the more they lie in public and the more they attack the media, the more the media bends over and takes it.

Jim Traynor is just a fat bully who should have been cancelled years ago.

[Waxy]

Bring back Scotsport on Sundays at 5pm.

[hibsbollah]

Bring back Scotsport on Sundays at 5pm.

Arthur 'Sensational!' Montford.

[Waxy]

Arthur 'Sensational!' Montford.

Stramash.

[Deansy]

Congrats Mikey - it's a badge of honour !

[Steve88]

IF he has been suspended, under what grounds.... Has the BBC said MS broke "XYZ..." hence why he has been suspended...

Incredibly worrying if people can't speak their mind..

[MWHIBBIES]

Never matters if you're right if you just offend the wrong bawbags. Same as referees, Huns don't like being called out when they are clearly in the wrong.

[jonty]

I missed the action and just catching up with the fallout. What did he actually do? bad mouth jim traynor or something along those lines?

[tamig]

I txtd them tonight. Don’t expect it to be read out.

[Hibbyradge]

I missed the action and just catching up with the fallout. What did he actually do? bad mouth jim traynor or something along those lines?

https://youtu.be/KZEZXkr9OiM

[The 90+2]

Apparently not. Hearing it's a 5 day ban lol. 5 days, cannae make it up.

Not what I heard earlier from him. Find out in five though. I can’t see Mikey working back again if true. BBC will know that though.

[Since452]

Sportsound just became decidedly less appealing without Stewart

[overdrive]

He’s not on Sportscene...

[Sammy7nil]

IF he has been suspended, under what grounds.... Has the BBC said MS broke "XYZ..." hence why he has been suspended...

Incredibly worrying if people can't speak their mind..

There is free speech but u can't say what you like without backing of up with facts. He made some claims such as dangerous man etc without adding facts.

[Hibbyradge]

There is free speech but u can't say what you like without backing of up with facts. He made some claims such as dangerous man etc without adding facts.

You can say whatever you like without facts. Pundits, and ironically newspapers, make their living doing so, but not about individuals.

I know that's what you mean. 👍

[SquashedFrogg]

There is free speech but u can't say what you like without backing of up with facts. He made some claims such as dangerous man etc without adding facts.

If he's voicing his opinion and not claiming it be factual, then he's entitled to say what he likes.

[Hibs4185]

There is free speech but u can't say what you like without backing of up with facts. He made some claims such as dangerous man etc without adding facts.

It is an opinion show and pundits are paid to give their opinion. You cannot have hard facts without a criminal investigation but there is enough information out their to form an opinion. It is quite clear who is peddling Rangers PR and stirring up controversy to suit the Rangers agenda.

Mikey Stewart is 100% correct and should be reinstated immediately. Absolutely Disgraceful if he is suspended or sacked for criticising Rangers. This will make every other pundit scared to say a single bad word about them. I’m this instance that is not a free press, which the country is famed for.

[The Count]

Really pisses me off how the Huns seem to be able to control the media in Scotland.Not just talking about Stewart here but think back over the years of all the lies they peddle.We do not have a free press in Scotland when it comes to the Huns.Your threatened if you dare critise them.

[HendoDelivered]

What did he do/say?

[ahibby]

We r talking about the same Mikey Stewart who when talking abkut the vacant managerial pisitions at Hibs and Hearts said Hearts was the more attractive job because they already had good players. He can talk rubbish as well as the rest if us😁

[Radium]

The Nine has just trailed a look at the Morellos story


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[Smartie]

We r talking about the same Mikey Stewart who when talking abkut the vacant managerial pisitions at Hibs and Hearts said Hearts was the more attractive job because they already had good players. He can talk rubbish as well as the rest if us😁

That wasn’t too outrageous a comment to make at the time with the two teams struggling at a similar level, although obviously it has subsequently been proven to be nonsense.

What was the general opinion of Doidge and Newell at that point?

We hadn’t seen anything of Boyle then and couldn’t guarantee he’d recover from his injury.

One of their biggest problems has been their inability to get their better players fit and playing.

[Carheenlea]

Really pisses me off how the Huns seem to be able to control the media in Scotland.Not just talking about Stewart here but think back over the years of all the lies they peddle.We do not have a free press in Scotland when it comes to the Huns.Your threatened if you dare critise them.

The Huns aren’t controlling the media - it’s nonsense to suggest this. It’s the BBC who are responsible for shooting themselves in the foot by needlessly dispensing with one of their prized assets (as far as their Scottish football coverage goes at least). They did the same last year with Danny Baker - completely over reacted.

[The Count]

Both are part of the Establishment.

[ahibby]

That wasn’t too outrageous a comment to make at the time with the two teams struggling at a similar level, although obviously it has subsequently been proven to be nonsense.

What was the general opinion of Doidge and Newell at that point?

We hadn’t seen anything of Boyle then and couldn’t guarantee he’d recover from his injury.

One of their biggest problems has been their inability to get their better players fit and playing.

Disagree mate. With Levine still on the scene cant be an attractive place for a manager to be. There is no way even back then it could have been described as more attractive. Jack Ross knew it then.

[Stokesy's on fire]

The bbc deserve banned from sport over this

[jgl07]

Boycott Sportsound until Mikey is reinstated.

Mind you I have been boycotting it for years!

[Since452]

The support Mikey Stewart is getting on social media from all fans (apart from the new club) is superb. Think he's come out of it pretty well

[The Spaceman]

Imagine pandering to that fat ned of a "PR" man at Ibrox. Well done Michael Stewart. Hope Traynor is one of the mass redundancies at Ibrox once they fail to stop 10-in-a-row.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Part of the Beeb’s charm offensive to work its way back into the Huns knickers.

[CentreLine]

Imagine the crowd funding if the fat myth maker was to try and take MS to court.

[Spike Mandela]

The Huns aren’t controlling the media - it’s nonsense to suggest this. It’s the BBC who are responsible for shooting themselves in the foot by needlessly dispensing with one of their prized assets (as far as their Scottish football coverage goes at least). They did the same last year with Danny Baker - completely over reacted.

Disagree with this. Scottish football media has been hand in hand with Rangers and the authorities for years, spreading agendas, telling mistruths, deflecting from realities and keeping silent when it suits them.

Complicit.

[JimBHibees]

Disagree with this. Scottish football media has been hand in hand with Rangers and the authorities for years, spreading agendas, telling mistruths, deflecting from realities and keeping silent when it suits them.

Complicit.

Totally agree the succulent lamb brigade are still very much part of the MSM.

All you need to know outlined by Alex Thompson of channel 4. Given you would assume he would have had little knowledge of Scottish football it didn't take him long to give an accurate depiction of the lie of the land. The question obviously is then why do the journos up here not do a similar piece, the answer of course was outlined earlier this week. The apparent power that organisation has is completely disproportionate with its role as a Football team. After years of cheating nothing has changed. Can anyone seriously imagine other teams being able to bounce back like they have.

https://www.channel4.com/news/by/alex-thomson/blogs/succulent-lamb-rack

[Squealing pig]

Michael Stewart is a great pundit, if hes not on sportscene itll b 💩 unless big marv gets his place but I'd rather see they 2 together bin ST

[Hibbyradge]

Michael Stewart is a great pundit, if hes not on sportscene itll b 💩 unless big marv gets his place but I'd rather see they 2 together bin ST

Late sesh last night or early start this morning?

[Cataplana]

Totally agree the succulent lamb brigade are still very much part of the MSM.

All you need to know outlined by Alex Thompson of channel 4. Given you would assume he would have had little knowledge of Scottish football it didn't take him long to give an accurate depiction of the lie of the land. The question obviously is then why do the journos up here not do a similar piece, the answer of course was outlined earlier this week. The apparent power that organisation has is completely disproportionate with its role as a Football team. After years of cheating nothing has changed. Can anyone seriously imagine other teams being able to bounce back like they have.

https://www.channel4.com/news/by/alex-thomson/blogs/succulent-lamb-rack

I think Alex Thomson understands the laws of defamation better than Michael Stewart. Either that or Michael genuinely is a bit of a punk, in which case more power to his elbow.

[I'm Spartacus]

I honestly cannot get my head around this.

"He is a bully and a very dangerous man..." MS then dropped for 5 days and the Beeb Kenny McIntyre reads out a cock sucking apology.

Just when I thought I couldn't hate Scottish Media anymore than I do.

(Plus MS can't work for Sky as they received the video and translation from Traynor to air to deflect from the Morelos embarrassment of being a ****ger, MS then rips Traynor, any Sky potential won't be an option).

A boycott from me until they stop bending over for SevCo.

[ekhibee]

You can say whatever you like without facts. Pundits, and ironically newspapers, make their living doing so, but not about individuals.

I know that's what you mean. 👍

Of course you can, as long as your employer doesn't suffer financial consequences. If they do then the individual should at the very least be suspended and very probably sacked. It really does depend on the exact words used and I haven't heard exactly what he said so don't know either way

[Carheenlea]

Disagree with this. Scottish football media has been hand in hand with Rangers and the authorities for years, spreading agendas, telling mistruths, deflecting from realities and keeping silent when it suits them.

Complicit.

I’m maybe being naive, but I’m basing my thoughts by asking myself if the BBC were that afraid of upsetting Rangers, or assisting in spreading their narrative, then why would they themselves refuse to broadcast or send journalists to Ibrox for the last three years after the fallout with Chris McLaughlin?

I just think suggesting Rangers are in control of media outlets like the BBC is probably far from the case and really giving them more credit for influence than they actually do.

[Ozyhibby]

Interesting that Celtic have complained to ofcom and demanded an apology on Morellos’s behalf yet the silence from Sevco is deafening regarding the misrepresentation of their own player?


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[Cataplana]

I honestly cannot get my head around this.

"He is a bully and a very dangerous man..." MS then dropped for 5 days and the Beeb Kenny McIntyre reads out a cock sucking apology.

Just when I thought I couldn't hate Scottish Media anymore than I do.

(Plus MS can't work for Sky as they received the video and translation from Traynor to air to deflect from the Morelos embarrassment of being a ****ger, MS then rips Traynor, any Sky potential won't be an option).

A boycott from me until they stop bending over for SevCo.

If you have listened to the programme, you'll have noticed that Michael said Traynor is dishonest. You can't say that.

[FilipinoHibs]

Interesting that Celtic have complained to ofcom and demanded an apology on Morellos’s behalf yet the silence from Sevco is deafening regarding the misrepresentation of their own player?


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Yes the translation was the narrative that Rangers wanted in the media. Now they are trying to stitch the agent up with the translation when obviously over seen by the Rangers media team.

[Not In The Know]

If you have listened to the programme, you'll have noticed that Michael said Traynor is dishonest. You can't say that.

true, but you could argue Traynor sanctioned that deliberately misleading translation. Oh not to mention the 2016 lies.

So maybe he is ....

[Viva_Palmeiras]

OF sway too strong for Scottish Football.
The closest we came to addressing this in recent years was when a Hibee grabbed the initiative and conducted the first most widely engaged football fans survey. (Worcester Hibee). Most likely unable to shed a full light surrounding the transition over to who took over such surveys next but that initial survey would have sent a rocket to the football establishment. Moment lost now. If no one stormed the gates of Park Gardens/Hampden before now it’ll never happen. Mediocratic bliss. It’s over a generation since we last qualified.

[Hibbyradge]

Of course you can, as long as your employer doesn't suffer financial consequences. If they do then the individual should at the very least be suspended and very probably sacked. It really does depend on the exact words used and I haven't heard exactly what he said so don't know either way

He said that Traynor was "causing division and stoking fires... for his own personal gain", because "he is subcontracted to deal with those types of things".

If he'd just said that Traynor was dangerous and a bully, and even doing The Rangers damage in the long term, nothing would have happened.

But accusing him of dishonestly cheating his employer is much more serious. For that, you do need proof and I don't doubt Traynor's lawyer's will have been all over it.

I can't stand Traynor, most outside of The Rangers feel the same, but the law, and the BBC, doesn't make its decisions based on likeability.

I don't know if what Stewart alleges is true, but given that he masqueraded as a neutral radio journalist for many years before coming out as a Rangers supporter, I suppose duplicity isn't out of the realms of possiblity.

But it needs to be proved if it's going to be alleged in public.

My hope is that those who run the club have heard Stewart's comments and taken note.

[oneone73]

He said that Traynor was "causing division and stoking fires... for his own personal gain", because "he is subcontracted to deal with those types of things".

If he'd just said that Traynor was dangerous and a bully, and even doing The Rangers damage in the long term, nothing would have happened.

But accusing him of dishonestly cheating his employer is much more serious. For that, you do need proof and I don't doubt Traynor's lawyer's will have been all over it.

I can't stand Traynor, most outside of The Rangers feel the same, but the law, and the BBC, doesn't make its decisions based on likeability.

I don't know if what Stewart alleges is true, but given that he masqueraded as a neutral radio journalist for many years before coming out as a Rangers supporter, I suppose duplicity isn't out of the realms of possiblity.

But it needs to be proved if it's going to be alleged in public.

My hope is that those who run the club have heard Stewart's comments and taken note.

Ah, remember the days when Traynor insisted he was an Airdrie supporter?

[Hibbyradge]

Ah, remember the days when Traynor insisted he was an Airdrie supporter?

:agree:

Is Chick Young still a Buddies fan?

[FilipinoHibs]

If you have listened to the programme, you'll have noticed that Michael said Traynor is dishonest. You can't say that.

Technically slander and a potential libel case if Stewart can't prove he is dishonest. BBC apology takes them out the firing line. Stewart would have been better talking about the Rangers media team and talking about trying to get their narrative as the true facts in the media. The translation debacle would have backed that up. Rangers and Traynor probably silenced because of that incident as a little bit of digging would reveal real source of the translation.

[Allant1981]

MS isnt a daft guy, he would have known the backlash this would cause and potential for trouble, he must have proof of some of the allegations he has made against Traynor surely or he wouldnt have went on his rant. If he hasnt then he isnt as bright as he would like to make out

[Cataplana]

true, but you could argue Traynor sanctioned that deliberately misleading translation. Oh not to mention the 2016 lies.

So maybe he is ....

Whataboutery does not justify anything.

[Hibbyradge]

MS isnt a daft guy, he would have known the backlash this would cause and potential for trouble, he must have proof of some of the allegations he has made against Traynor surely or he wouldnt have went on his rant. If he hasnt then he isnt as bright as he would like to make out

He was angry about the grief he had been getting on social media as a result of the brakes tampering story and you can hear him become angrier as the "row" develops.

It wasn't a calculated rant and I think he made a mistake.

He's not repeated the allegations since on Twitter or anywhere else. I doubt he will, but we'll see.

[Allant1981]

He was angry about the grief he had been getting on social media as a result of the brakes tampering story and you can hear him become angrier as the "row" develoos.

It wasn't a calculated rant and I think he made a mistake.

He's not repeated the allegations since on Twitter or anywhere else. I doubt he will, but we'll see.

Fair point and I only listened to a small part of it, would be interesting to hear his thoughts on it now

[scooby]

If you have listened to the programme, you'll have noticed that Michael said Traynor is dishonest. You can't say that.

Of course you can, it's true.

[Cataplana]

Of course you can, it's true.

Ok, you can't say he creates problems so he can be paid to fix them.

[Frazerbob]

Michael Stewart is a great pundit, if hes not on sportscene itll b 💩 unless big marv gets his place but I'd rather see they 2 together bin ST

Big Marv is a dreadful pundit.

[Keith_M]

On the Morelos translation 'error'.


The DR is running a story that it was Morelos' Agent that translated it for Sky.

[Squealing pig]

Big Marv is a dreadful pundit.

I just like him as he detests the jambos , when he was on Scottish football program, name escapes me , he was pretty good

[Hibs4185]

MS is a pretty wealthy guy, has a few properties and lives in a nice street.

Would love for him to challenge his suspension/dismissal and bring the rangers to task

[Hibbyradge]

MS is a pretty wealthy guy, has a few properties and lives in a nice street.

Would love for him to challenge his suspension/dismissal and bring the rangers to task

He might be wealthy but he's not stupid.

[jgl07]

:agree:

Is Chick Young still a Buddies fan?

Only on his days off!

[hibby rae]

Big Marv is a dreadful pundit.

Tbf it's his first season doing it. He's already better than a lot who have been doing it for years.

[Jim44]

:agree:

Is Chick Young still a Buddies fan?

Chick Young is to St Mirren as Jim Traynor is to Airdrie. :rolleyes:

[Hibbyradge]

Chick Young is to St Mirren as Jim Traynor is to Airdrie. :rolleyes:

Yes, that's my point.

[jacomo]

He might be wealthy but he's not stupid.


Don’t think Stewart has anything to fear. Traynor won’t sue because the story is basically true. BBC have been bullied here.

[Hibbyradge]

Don’t think Stewart has anything to fear. Traynor won’t sue because the story is basically true. BBC have been bullied here.

Basically true means nothing.

Stewart said that Traynor manufactures problems for his club so that they subcontract him to fix those problems.

I doubt that would be easy to prove, if at all.

[Biggie]

Whatever mikey Stewart said true or not, he may well be alienating himself from any broadcaster in scotland as they all **** themselves at the thought of calling out either side of the old firm.
Thing is he's a breath of fresh air.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Stewart is a disgrace, riding roughshod over 50 odd years of Scottish football tradition by refusing to bend over and just take it. Even worse, saying what the fans are thinking as well. Shame on him.

[jacomo]

Basically true means nothing.

Stewart said that Traynor manufactures problems for his club so that they subcontract him to fix those problems.

I doubt that would be easy to prove, if at all.


Assuming Traynor did plant the car tampering story, there will be evidence.

[The 90+2]

Assuming Traynor did plant the car tampering story, there will be evidence.

There will be. He is able to bully himself out of it though. BBC **** themselves as do sky who’ve been given a transcript from Traynor for the interview. They are that scared of him and the huns they will always back down. Same as Jackson/Traynor must have had evidence of all the Rangers players being assaulted on the day of the greatest game in history. Do they ever get pulled up? No. They are scared. It’s mental.
Mikey isn’t going to go back there with his tail between his legs either. He’s not that type of person.

[blackpoolhibs]

Can someone put a list up why they think the BBC Scotland and Sky are scared of sevco.

I understand why the BBC act like they do, as i feel that institution is infiltrated by huns, who set the agenda about what they deem ok to say.

But Sky shouldn't be scared about anything they say about either cheeks, unless its to do with viewers, except they have a monopoly on that next season?

[Stonewall]

I’m maybe being naive, but I’m basing my thoughts by asking myself if the BBC were that afraid of upsetting Rangers, or assisting in spreading their narrative, then why would they themselves refuse to broadcast or send journalists to Ibrox for the last three years after the fallout with Chris McLaughlin?

I just think suggesting Rangers are in control of media outlets like the BBC is probably far from the case and really giving them more credit for influence than they actually do.

I don’t think the BBC had any choice but to react as they did after McLaughlin was banned. However, that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t want to normalise their relationship with Rangers. If The BBC wanted to go to war they would have escalated the issue by refusing to cover Rangers at all. Who knows what communication there is between Rangers and the BBC in the background but it’s not a big leap to conclude that Rangers are keeping this going for their own reasons. That is controlling the narrative and flow of stories to the media and keeping the the clan base onside with the ridiculous everyone is against us fantasy.

Control over media outlets is not how I see it, but they certainly control individual journalists within organisations such as the Record. In return for towing the party line they are given access to stories and players. This is what the whole succulent lamb business was about. David Murray took a whole load of so called journalist to his property on Jersey and outlined the terms of their doing business with Rangers. Graham Speirs was there and has regularly spoken of what happened and his regret at having taken part.

The media outlets know that Rangers sells papers, provides audiences, fills column inches and airtime and so to a greater or lesser extent go along with it. Michael Stewart broke ranks and unfortunately did it in a clumsy and ill considered way.

[FilipinoHibs]

I don’t think the BBC had any choice but to react as they did after McLaughlin was banned. However, that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t want to normalise their relationship with Rangers. If The BBC wanted to go to war they would have escalated the issue by refusing to cover Rangers at all. Who knows what communication there is between Rangers and the BBC in the background but it’s not a big leap to conclude that Rangers are keeping this going for their own reasons. That is controlling the narrative and flow of stories to the media and keeping the the clan base onside with the ridiculous everyone is against us fantasy.

Control over media outlets is not how I see it, but they certainly control individual journalists within organisations such as the Record. In return for towing the party line they are given access to stories and players. This is what the whole succulent lamb business was about. David Murray took a whole load of so called journalist to his property on Jersey and outlined the terms of their doing business with Rangers. Graham Speirs was there and has regularly spoken of what happened and his regret at having taken part.

The media outlets know that Rangers sells papers, provides audiences, fills column inches and airtime and so to a greater or lesser extent go along with it. Michael Stewart broke ranks and unfortunately did it in a clumsy and ill considered way.

Let's say Sky said the translation was provided by Rangers Media dept. Rangers would cut off access to Sky apart what they are legally obliged to do in the TV contract. SKY have bought the SPL for the old firm and half their potential audience would find their offering less attractive and some may even boycott the SPL package.

[CentreLine]

Let's say Sky said the translation was provided by Rangers Media dept. Rangers would cut off access to Sky apart what they are legally obliged to do in the TV contract. SKY have bought the SPL for the old firm and half their potential audience would find their offering less attractive and some may even boycott the SPL package.

I can’t help but feel Sky have more clout here than The Rangers. BBC was an easy target as their contribution to the game here is minimal. Sky, on the other hand, have a sufficiently big focus on The Rangers that the new club could not afford to blackball them, especially as BT Sport will no longer be covering Scottish football

[FilipinoHibs]

I can’t help but feel Sky have more clout here than The Rangers. BBC was an easy target as their contribution to the game here is minimal. Sky, on the other hand, have a sufficiently big focus on The Rangers that the new club could not afford to blackball them, especially as BT Sport will no longer be covering Scottish football

Why don't SKY just come out and say who they got the translation from. SKY will be locked into a contract and can't just jump ship. They are protecting their investment.

[Hibbyradge]

Assuming Traynor did plant the car tampering story, there will be evidence.

Assumptions are not proof.

Can you imagine the cost of trying to gather enough evidence to prove that Traynor deliberately "stokes division and fires" do he can be subcontracted to sort them out?

It's not a court of law, no-one can be forced to testify or swear an oath.

Even if Traynor did create the tampering story, he can just say that he was reporting an incident and speculating about it.

Snaring a weasel like Traynor takes planning and tactics, not an angry, spontaneous outburst on live radio.

If proving Stewart right was do easy, why has he not commented since? He's not usually one to keep quiet about controversy.

[blackpoolhibs]

Traynor said as much if not worse than Stewart every week, when he was on the radio on off the ball.

Although we may not have the proof on what Stewart said, when did that ever matter when football fans were discussing football?

How many times do we need to say that some folk need to grow a backbone? Sevco SFA BBC SKY, FFS when are we going to stand up against these bully's and stop accepting they can do what they like when they like.

[Hibbyradge]

Traynor said as much if not worse than Stewart every week, when he was on the radio on off the ball.

Although we may not have the proof on what Stewart said, when did that ever matter when football fans were discussing football?

How many times do we need to say that some folk need to grow a backbone? Sevco SFA BBC SKY, FFS when are we going to stand up against these bully's and stop accepting they can do what they like when they like.

Whatboutery isn't useful.

However, I can't remember anything Traynor said although he did try to stoke controversy. I don't remember him getting close to slandering any individuals though.

The thing is, Stewart is not a BBC employee so they don't have any need to get into a legal battle.

I follow Michael Stewart on Twitter. Your comments about backbone must surely apply to him too because he's not uttered a peep about the incident.

I agree that the bullies should be challenged, but it needs to be done in the right way otherwise they'll just become even more powerful.

[blackpoolhibs]

Whatboutery isn't useful.

I agree, but it's what fuels the bigot brothers.

However, I can't remember anything Traynor said although he did try to stoke controversy. I don't remember him getting close to slandering any individuals though.

Me neither, but i'd bet he did lie and lie through his teeth many times on that show.

The thing is, Stewart is not a BBC employee so they don't have any need to get into a legal battle.

I know he's not an employee, self employed i'd guess, makes no difference to me, it's the way sevco have their mitts into every organization, pulling strings that 99% of us would object to, it shouldnt happen or be allowed.

I follow Michael Stewart on Twitter. Your comments about backbone must surely apply to him too because he's not uttered a peep about the incident.

He's thanked folk for their support, and also posted it in spanish i think so not to let it get what he said, lost in translation. :greengrin

[jacomo]

“On this occasion we did not adhere to our editorial values and standards and we have reminded those concerned of their responsibility to follow our guidelines while working for the BBC.”

Hmm... can’t help but think of the media pile on orchestrated by Jim Traynor that followed the 2016 cup final. We didn’t get much right of reply then.

We all know how it works in Scotland, well played Michael Stewart for calling it out.

[Spike Mandela]

“They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended. No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died. They were closed and a newco must start from scratch.”
Jim Traynor, Daily Record 13th June 2012

[EI255]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18214091.michael-stewart-axed-bbc-morelos-interview-fallout/

Not official, but he wasn't there yesterday.

What a ****ing joke. Back to OF sycophants who tow the party line.If this is true then that is simply outrageous!

Michael Stewart has the full backing of every decent supporter.

BBC have to question THEMSELVES.

*** joke.

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[Brizo]

Traynor finally pressed his self destruct button with the BBC when he defended The Famine Song and its sentiments during his phone in and was totally shown up to be the bigot he is by a particularly articulate caller. He was forced to apologise on air but I don't recall any disciplinary action by the BBC. He left the station shortly after and whether there was any connection to his defence of TFS, the public reaction by the BBC to Traynor and Stewarts comments was night and day.

Unfortunately on this occasion the volatility which marked Stewarts fitba career has followed him into his pundit career. He's previously successfully highlighted the bigotry which surrounds der hun and shown up the BBC RSC of Kenny McIntyre, Doddsy, Boydy and Ferguson as the inarticulate hun loving lapdogs they are. On this occasion his inability to contain his anger at social media abuse he received saw him cross a line which gave the Ibrox PR dept an open goal.

Hopefully he'll be back soon but looking at how the BBC treated Graham Spiers and Jim Spence, previous outspoken critics of the huns, if they do invite him back I doubt it will be with the same high profile role

[gaz1875]

There's a petition on the go, get it signed!!

https://www.change.org/p/bbc-scotland-bbc-scotland-reinstate-michael-stewart?recruiter=21801671&recruited_by_id=c0c618a0-f751-012f-2358-4040496dcccb&share_bandit_exp=message-20197986-en-GB&share_bandit_var=v2

[Diclonius]

Is he on today?

[Keith_M]

It's funny that Craig Whyte has released an autobiography this week which includes the same accusations against Jim Traynor as the ones that got MS the heave-ho.

[Is It On....]

There's a petition on the go, get it signed!!

https://www.change.org/p/bbc-scotland-bbc-scotland-reinstate-michael-stewart?recruiter=21801671&recruited_by_id=c0c618a0-f751-012f-2358-4040496dcccb&share_bandit_exp=message-20197986-en-GB&share_bandit_var=v2



Just signed it

[Keith_M]

“They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended. No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died. They were closed and a newco must start from scratch.”
Jim Traynor, Daily Record 13th June 2012



I thought I should quote this, just so it's repeated as often as possible.


:wink:

[Malthibby]

There's a petition on the go, get it signed!!

https://www.change.org/p/bbc-scotland-bbc-scotland-reinstate-michael-stewart?recruiter=21801671&recruited_by_id=c0c618a0-f751-012f-2358-4040496dcccb&share_bandit_exp=message-20197986-en-GB&share_bandit_var=v2



Signed.:agree:

[green day]

https://twitter.com/GrahamSpiers/status/1226148881932705793?s=20

[Keith_M]

https://twitter.com/GrahamSpiers/status/1226148881932705793?s=20




Spiers knows what he's talking about.

[hibsbollah]

Spiers knows what he's talking about.

But look at the responses he's getting from the online Hun mob on twitter. You aren't allowed to have a view that isn't right up the ringpiece of the Hun without being attacked by the far right trolls and ostracised by the mainstream media.

[Just_Jimmy]

If you have listened to the programme, you'll have noticed that Michael said Traynor is dishonest. You can't say that.You can when it's true.

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[green day]

But look at the responses he's getting from the online Hun mob on twitter. You aren't allowed to have a view that isn't right up the ringpiece of the Hun without being attacked by the far right trolls and ostracised by the mainstream media.

I commented back to GS about how he (Spiers), Jim Spence and MS were punted and us being left with the genius crew of Doddsy, Kenny Mac and Fergie on the Beeb.........it took less than 2 minutes for me to get abuse from Huns, so god knows what its like for these high profile types on twitter:confused:

[hibsbollah]

I commented back to GS about how he (Spiers), Jim Spence and MS were punted and us being left with the genius crew of Doddsy, Kenny Mac and Fergie on the Beeb.........it took less than 2 minutes for me to get abuse from Huns, so god knows what its like for these high profile types on twitter:confused:

If I was a public figure there's no ****ing way I'd be on twitter. Life's too short to deal with sociopaths sitting in dark rooms in their underpants.

[Hibbyradge]

He's thanked folk for their support, and also posted it in spanish i think so not to let it get what he said, lost in translation. :greengrin

I agree with you.

I think we're discussing different things. :greengrin

Anyway, it's run its course now. I'm oot!

[Hibbyradge]

You can when it's true.

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If you have proof that would stand up in court.

[Just_Jimmy]

If you have proof that would stand up in court.Could Jimbo prove in court that what MS said wasn't? That's how it works.

prove it you usually have to show there's been a statement that is all of the following:

published
false
injurious
unprivileged

It was published, but spoken is less of an issue than written in the eye of the court. Can he prove it's false? Is the comments actually injurious? I don't think many people ACTUALLY think that highly on Trainor and those that hire him would, regardless of MS comments.

I doubt Jimbo would take it any further because he will never want to open everything he's ever written since he took that role to be true. We all know it's not.


Regardless, the BBC **** the bed. I'm bowing out as I never really intended to become involved in the debate as it simply doesn't interest me.

Cheers.



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[grunt]

If anyone is into petitions there's one here

https://www.change.org/p/bbc-scotland-bbc-scotland-reinstate-michael-stewart?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_20197986_en-GB%3Av1&recruited_by_id=bbd79170-49d5-11ea-a52f-d79f25083e7f&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial

[The Count]

BBC pundits

Rae ex hun
Derek Ferguson ex Hun
Barry Ferguson ex Hun
Billy Dodds ex Hun
Alan Preston ex Hun supporter
Willie Miller ex Hun supporter
Pat Bonner ex Celtic
Tam Mcmanus ex Hibs
Stephen Thompson good guy but ex Hun

Michael Stewart ex Free Spirit




Seems to me a bit unbalanced.

We need more free spirits in football broadcasting in Scotland

[Diclonius]

Is he back on today?

[7Hero]

BBC pundits

Rae ex hun
Derek Ferguson ex Hun
Barry Ferguson ex Hun
Billy Dodds ex Hun
Alan Preston ex Hun supporter
Willie Miller ex Hun supporter
Pat Bonner ex Celtic
Tam Mcmanus ex Hibs
Stephen Thompson good guy but ex Hun

Michael Stewart ex Free Spirit




Seems to me a bit unbalanced.

We need more free spirits in football broadcasting in Scotland

Prestons a massive Jambo, just five minutes with him proves this. So one less "hun" for you...

[Kato]

Prestons a massive Jambo, just five minutes with him proves this. So one less "hun" for you...

On the Radio he's a jambo but is a Rangers supporter.

[heretoday]

On the Radio he's a jambo but is a Rangers supporter.

I don't mind Preston. He's got natural enthusiasm unlike the rest of the sleazy bunch who add nothing to our understanding or enjoyment of football.

[Betty Boop]

On the Radio he's a jambo but is a Rangers supporter.


Aye that's why he pays into Foundation of Hearts.

[Kato]

Aye that's why he pays into Foundation of Hearts.

Does that make him a staunch Jambo? On of my best pals is Preston's cousin and I've been in his company a few times, AP supported Rangers as a boy and still has a non-media related "soft-spot" for them whatever the public persona he adopts on the radio.

[Weegreenman]

I like Michael Stewart but him and Thommo’s constant bickering “banter” starts to ware after a while. I respect that both talk a lot of sense and hope that the BBC come to their senses. You got to play the game if your mixing in them circles I’m afraid. Strange bunch.

[Dave spart]

Dodds is a complete prat and all Stewart wants to talk about is Hearts. Preston is a slavering eijit

[Kato]

Dodds is a complete prat and all Stewart wants to talk about is a Hearts. Preston is a slavering eijit

That's a great first post. :aok:

[Hibbyradge]

That's a great first post. :aok:

It's unlikely that it's his first post. :hmmm:

[SanFranHibs]

That's a great first post. :aok:

He has a great .Net career ahead of him.

:greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

He has a great .Net career ahead of him.

:greengrin

Short, but awesome.

[Dave spart]

No it’s my first post. Must admit the most annoying characters are the wee knyaff that introduces the program and Preston, who comes over a border lined deranged Jambo.

[Cataplana]

No it’s my first post. Must admit the most annoying characters are the wee knyaff that introduces the program and Preston, who comes over a border lined deranged Jambo.

Great user name. 😁

[Carheenlea]

Listening to Sportsound on way back live from Clyde v Celtic. Pundits were Pat Bonner and Murdo McLeod. Pathetic.

[Frazerbob]

Prestons a massive Jambo, just five minutes with him proves this. So one less "hun" for you...

Preston and Hearts is like a Yogi and Hibs. They grew up supporting the Huns & Celtc respectively but changed to support Hearts & Hibs.

[overdrive]

Preston and Hearts is like a Yogi and Hibs. They grew up supporting the Huns & Celtc respectively but changed to support Hearts & Hibs.

They are cousins as well aren’t they?

[Carheenlea]

Sportscene was hard work to watch. Marvin Bartley is a beginner to be fair, but he was so wooden and didn’t look comfortable, while Neil McCann was passable, but not the most engaging of pundits. You could feel Jonathon Sutherlands pain in attempting to extract some decent television out the pair of them.

[FilipinoHibs]

On the Radio he's a jambo but is a Rangers supporter.

A hun at school but now a Jambo.

[FilipinoHibs]

No it’s my first post. Must admit the most annoying characters are the wee knyaff that introduces the program and Preston, who comes over a border lined deranged Jambo.

😄

[basehibby]

The BBC obviously care more about kissing Jim Traynors despicable arse than maintaining any level of quality in the viewer experience. So no surprises theree then!

Stewart is/was far and away their most watchable pundit - cowardly decision to ditch him.

[Gypsy King]

Its a strange one, I cant really understand how they can justify a suspension for Stewart. It reeks of an old boys club mentality.

IMO Michael Stewart is the best pundit In Scotland and gives a fair evaluation regardless of who he is talking about.

Not really surprising though it wouldn't be unlike the BBC to not want people who offer a balanced and reasonable viewpoint that might differ from popular opinion.

[greenlex]

All the BBC needed to do was have a statement with regard the comments being Stewart’s own opinion and not that of the BBC. Explain to Stewart why he can’t be ranting like that and leaving them open to litigation. That was all. Job done and everyone moves on. Whether Stewart’s opinion is wrong or right is neither here nor there.

[Hibbyradge]

All the BBC needed to do was have a statement with regard the comments being Stewart’s own opinion and not that of the BBC. Explain to Stewart why he can’t be ranting like that and leaving them open to litigation. That was all. Job done and everyone moves on. Whether Stewart’s opinion is wrong or right is neither here nor there.

It don't think it works like that, Lex.

A bookshop could be sued for stocking a publication which was libellous even though they don't necessarily echo the sentiments within.

[KingPat4]

Has Stewart been suspended or dropped completely?

[Billy Whizz]

Has Stewart been suspended or dropped completely?

I’m not sure if he’s an employee of the Beeb or freelance, which means they can’t suspend him, just not ask him to be on air

[malcolm]

It don't think it works like that, Lex.

A bookshop could be sued for stocking a publication which was libellous even though they don't necessarily echo the sentiments within.

Agree in the context of a broadcast and a comment made during it, that the broadcaster or the commenter as a primary publishers could be sued (you’d pick the one with biggest pockets) but don’t believe it applies now to a bookshop as a secondary publisher who would not be pursued unless it is reasonably impractical to pursue a primary publisher. So I expect that a broadcaster will undoubtedly have a damage limitation policy ready in the event of the production team flagging an issue that occurs in a live broadcast, e.g. an apology of some kind to be rolled out.

I suspect though that rather than any need to head off litigation, if MS has been dropped for short or long term it owes more to a need to remind all staff and freelancers of the rules of play or it has a more ‘political’ aspect.

[Betty Boop]

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18224404.boy-12-charged-alleged-racist-incidents-towards-rangers-player-old-firm/

[Hibbyradge]

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18224404.boy-12-charged-alleged-racist-incidents-towards-rangers-player-old-firm/

Convenient that he can't be named.

Just joining in with the tin foil brigade.

[B.H.F.C]

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18224404.boy-12-charged-alleged-racist-incidents-towards-rangers-player-old-firm/

I wonder if Celtic will issue an apology to ‘Mr Morellos’ as they were so keen for Sky to do in their last statement.

Innocent until proven guilty I suppose.

Sevco statement incoming I imagine.

[The 90+2]

Thousands and thousands of the chanting religious hate but one wee laddie gets arrested aye?

[Dinkydoo]

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18224404.boy-12-charged-alleged-racist-incidents-towards-rangers-player-old-firm/This is very ****ing convenient. They manage to find evidence of a 12 year old that can't be named being racist, after an interview naming Celtic in the translation was proved to be quite bogus...

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[Ozyhibby]

This is very ****ing convenient. They manage to find evidence of a 12 year old that can't be named being racist, after an interview naming Celtic in the translation was proved to be quite bogus...

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Very understanding of Sevco.


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[Eyrie]

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Very understanding of Sevco.


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I'm surprised that there's a spare place on their courses when there are 50k home fans already there to learn why "sectarian abuse is unacceptable".

[Torto7]

Stewart was quite right in describing Jabba as a dangerous individual. One thing Murray largely managed to achieve was to keep the real fruit loops in their support at bay.

Jabba's press releases are sounding more and more Trump like.

[green day]

That Sevco statement demonstrates exactly what Stewarr was saying about Traynor.

He is a dangerous and manipulative individual treating racism and sectarianism as a game.

[Ozyhibby]

I'm surprised that there's a spare place on their courses when there are 50k home fans already there to learn why "sectarian abuse is unacceptable".

Also looks like they have pre judged the guilt of the 12 year old. Hope the wee man has good lawyers.


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[The 90+2]

That Sevco statement demonstrates exactly what Stewarr was saying about Traynor.

He is a dangerous and manipulative individual treating racism and sectarianism as a game.

Yep. You would think he would keep it dignified but that’s not Traynors style.

[The 90+2]

Also looks like they have pre judged the guilt of the 12 year old. Hope the wee man has good lawyers.


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Celtic should be hiring one for him.

[Dinkydoo]

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Very understanding of Sevco.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe initial interview didn't even mention Celtic although the translation correlated the abuse to them, there is a subsequent investigation which finds a 12 yr old to be guilty of racism at a Celtic game, the article explains how disturbed Morelos' family life is due to all of this, but only after a dodgy article is posted in the media falsey claiming the 'Rangers Star' to be the centre of an attempted murder - which turned out to be his own wife investigating due to suspicions Morelos was cheating on her, whilst pregnant.

There's a relevant Chewin' the Fat gif somewhere. The whole thing reeks of *****.

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[JimBHibees]

Also looks like they have pre judged the guilt of the 12 year old. Hope the wee man has good lawyers.


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So let's get this right at an old firm game where there must have been thousands of people shouting vile obscenities the police decide to charge a 12 year old, excuse me when I say wtf. Seems quite convenient timing imo.

[Torto7]

Morelos made some throat cut sign at Celtic fans I think? Was it this 12 year old?

Police Scotland are reeking of masons. See the overreaction/harassment dished out to us after the 3-2 game.

[660]

Can’t wait for the contrarians to explain the legality of the latest cretinous statement from the huns.

[Sir David Gray]

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Very understanding of Sevco.


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Everyone Anyone campaign, Ibrox open to all, anti-sectarianism course....

Is this a wind up? :faf:

[spikeymike]

Maybe they could get their own fans to attend the courses so they could refrain from chucking cups filled with urine at hibs supporters

[Tyler Durden]

You have to wonder who is advising Morelos, as he is being used as a pawn in this nonsense. Does he genuinely believe that there is some campaign of hate against him? Bizarre stuff

[Cataplana]

It's almost like Jabba creates a **** storm in the media, then gets on the phone to King, telling him he's going to be busy for a few weeks.

Time somebody called him out on the radio.

:timebomb:

[Pretty Boy]

I almost admire the absolute hypocrisy of Rangers. It's on show in everything they do and otherwise intelligent people either don't notice it or choose not to.

In many ways they are only doing what we all would if we could get away with it.

[660]

I almost admire the absolute hypocrisy of Rangers. It's on show in everything they do and otherwise intelligent people either don't notice it or choose not to.

In many ways they are only doing what we all would if we could get away with it.

It’s literally the trump playbook. Frightening stuff.

[Hibbyradge]

Can’t wait for the contrarians to explain the legality of the latest cretinous statement from the huns.

Is it illegal? :dunno:

[Hibbyradge]

Everyone Anyone campaign, Ibrox open to all, anti-sectarianism course....

Is this a wind up? :faf:

It's unbelievable. Truly incredible.

[JimBHibees]

Everyone Anyone campaign, Ibrox open to all, anti-sectarianism course....

Is this a wind up? :faf:

They could make an absolute fortune out of that course by charging every season ticket holder a fiver to attend. Would soon clear their enormous debt.

[JimBHibees]

I almost admire the absolute hypocrisy of Rangers. It's on show in everything they do and otherwise intelligent people either don't notice it or choose not to.

In many ways they are only doing what we all would if we could get away with it.

Yep the bigger the lie the more likely they are to get away with it. Authorities both football, political and policing should hang their heads in absolute shame that they are able to get away with this in such a public manner.

[Iggy Pope]

Everyone Anyone campaign, Ibrox open to all, anti-sectarianism course....

Is this a wind up? :faf:

Is it maybe Everyone Anyone that got her up the duff? Makes sense.

[DstN75]

Stewart is the only pundit with precisely the right level of naivety to do this, for which I suppose he deserves some credit.

[Ozyhibby]

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[The 90+2]

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Two footed tackle by Spiers.


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Get in there Spiers. Unfortunately we won’t ever hear from him in Scottish broadcast media ever again now.

[Iggy Pope]

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Two footed tackle by Spiers.


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Left his foot in as well.

[CMurdoch]

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Two footed tackle by Spiers.


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A beautiful wee dig from the boy Spiersy there

[JJP]

These Traynor statement are so amateur. Traynor must be the worst PR guy to have ever worked in the profession. He is consistently spoken about rather than being in the shadows and every time he issues one of these statements he makes Sevco look even more like an unprofessional and vindictive outfit to any rational observer. Says it all about that club that they continue to allow him to vent like this in an official capacity.

[Waxy]

Ffs Rangers get rid of Traynor, stop being bigots, join us all in the future.

[jacomo]

Stewart was quite right in describing Jabba as a dangerous individual. One thing Murray largely managed to achieve was to keep the real fruit loops in their support at bay.

Jabba's press releases are sounding more and more Trump like.


From the start, the Sevco business model has been to rev them up with tales of injustice, hatred and punishment.

Traynor has been at the heart of it.

[The Count]

When you read statements like that from the Rangers it just makes me exasperated and sad that in Scotland in the year 2020 we are still have people like Taylor in positions of power.Very sad.

[JimBHibees]

Thousands and thousands of the chanting religious hate but one wee laddie gets arrested aye?

Absolutely beyond belief this.

[Hibbyradge]

These Traynor statement are so amateur. Traynor must be the worst PR guy to have ever worked in the profession. He is consistently spoken about rather than being in the shadows and every time he issues one of these statements he makes Sevco look even more like an unprofessional and vindictive outfit to any rational observer. Says it all about that club that they continue to allow him to vent like this in an official capacity.

It doesn't matter what he looks like to anyone outside of their club. He's not talking to us.

Like Trump, he's merely keeping his own people on board and stoking their resentment.

Whether that's by design or accident is anyone's guess, but it's doing the job.

[JimBHibees]

Get in there Spiers. Unfortunately we won’t ever hear from him in Scottish broadcast media ever again now.

Agree he is one of the very few shining lights in the media that can actually hold their heads up with regard to Rangers. Another person treated abominably and bullied even more courageous given his Rangers upbringing.

[Bostonhibby]

Morelos made some throat cut sign at Celtic fans I think? Was it this 12 year old?

Police Scotland are reeking of masons. See the overreaction/harassment dished out to us after the 3-2 game.We ruined their Lodge party at Ibrox after the 2016 cup final and most of them were caught heading to the venue when they should have been acting like police officers at hampden.

There weren't even enough of them to stop Scottish cup supporters and west of Scotland FC supporters invading the pitch and attacking exuberant Hibs fans.

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[JimBHibees]

When you read statements like that from the Rangers it just makes me exasperated and sad that in Scotland in the year 2020 we are still have people like Traynor in positions of power.Very sad.

Totally agree.

[jacomo]

It doesn't matter what he looks like to anyone outside of their club. He's not talking to us.

Like Trump, he's merely keeping his own people on board and stoking their resentment.

Whether that's by design or accident is anyone's guess, but it's doing the job.


I think Traynor’s motivations are personal: both financial, and to cover his embarrassment at declaring Rangers deid.

He doesn’t care what damage he causes.

As I said above, Michael Stewart should challenge Traynor to sue him if he thinks he has been defamed. It’s all hot air and bluster.

[Jones28]

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Ooft, studs up an all

[Betty Boop]

Graham Spiers more faces than the town hall clock.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_mt4BFXUAArJA5.jpg

[blackpoolhibs]

Graham Spiers more faces than the town hall clock.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_mt4BFXUAArJA5.jpg

Looks like a wind up to me.:confused:

[Rumble de Thump]

Sevco's statements are consistently riddled with lies and inaccuracies, and designed to stoke up more hatred of others from its follow followers. The football authorities should have hammered them for it a long time ago but they chose not to and have allowed them to do it time and time again.

[Peevemor]

Graham Spiers more faces than the town hall clock.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_mt4BFXUAArJA5.jpg

Possiby, but this photo's obviously a stitch-up.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Graham Spiers more faces than the town hall clock.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_mt4BFXUAArJA5.jpg

Spiers is ok, certainly not afraid to criticise the team he supports.

[EI255]

You sometimes have to wonder why successful graduates follow pi5h football teams and make a career out of the sport. Especially in a country like Scotland.

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[Jones28]

Graham Spiers more faces than the town hall clock.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_mt4BFXUAArJA5.jpg

He’s never hidden the fact he’s a Rangers supporter.

All the more respect to him for it.

[EI255]

He’s never hidden the fact he’s a Rangers supporter.

All the more respect to him for it.The words Respect and Rangers do not go.

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[JeMeSouviens]

Graham Spiers more faces than the town hall clock.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_mt4BFXUAArJA5.jpg

You do realise that the point of this hilarious meme is that Spiers is 2 faced because he's supposed to be a Rangers fan but he calls them out for sectarianism etc. ?


And you think that's a bad thing? :confused:

[Jones28]

The words Respect and Rangers do not go.

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If it’s a prominent journalist who calls out the team he supports/supported for their sectarianism and bile then it can.

[delbert]

Ffs Rangers get rid of Traynor, stop being bigots, join us all in the future.

The future ??!! If they ever make it into something even remotely resembling the present, it will be a bloody miracle !!

[Deansy]

Meanwhile, the Hun aren't winning the league - this season or next !. Jabba's gonna have his work cut out to distract the 'Moron Loyal' from that little issue !

[CMurdoch]

From the start, the Sevco business model has been to rev them up with tales of injustice, hatred and punishment.

Traynor has been at the heart of it.

It seems to be the modern model for the powerful.

Rangers do it
Celtic do it
Trump does it
Johnston does it

One word for it is NASTY.

[Cataplana]

Sevco's statements are consistently riddled with lies and inaccuracies, and designed to stoke up more hatred of others from its follow followers. The football authorities should have hammered them for it a long time ago but they chose not to and have allowed them to do it time and time again.

Maybe so, but what is truly unacceptable is their poor syntax and punctuation.

[Sprouleflyer]

The lad has only been charged, yet the huns statement has already found him guilty with their "offer" of accommodating him through one of their courses designed to help people understand why racist and sectarian abuse is unacceptable.

I am surprised that they have free places within these courses!

[hibsbollah]

The lad has only been charged, yet the huns statement has already found him guilty with their "offer" of accommodating him through one of their courses designed to help people understand why racist and sectarian abuse is unacceptable.

I am surprised that they have free places within these courses!

Going to Ibrox to do a anti prejudice course? I have a vision of Jabba Traynor with Princess Leia chained up, putting his captives down the secret dungeon to be eaten by the rankor.

[KingPat4]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IhlZ6aLgTQ&t=245s


A year ago. So unfair. Infamy, infamy!

[Groathillgrump]

Everyone Anyone campaign, Ibrox open to all, anti-sectarianism course....

Is this a wind up? :faf:


It's true. They even produced a video to promote their campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7abtLC7Ac

I didn't know whether to laugh or puke.

[KingPat4]

It's true. They even produced a video to promote their campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7abtLC7Ac

I didn't know whether to laugh or puke.


Jaysus wept.........,

[Peevemor]

It's true. They even produced a video to promote their campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7abtLC7Ac

I didn't know whether to laugh or puke.

They showed that at half time on Sevco TV during our recent match. I thought it was a spoof at first.

[Groathillgrump]

They showed that at half time on Sevco TV during our recent match. I thought it was a spoof at first.

Aye, that's where I saw it too.

The brief must've been to cram as many minorities and assorted stereotypes as possible into a 3 minute video.

The thing is, most organisations would probably be congratulated on making that sort of video to promote inclusivity. But that lot? Nah! :bitchy:

[poolman]

Mind boggling coming from that lot

[JeMeSouviens]

It's true. They even produced a video to promote their campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7abtLC7Ac

I didn't know whether to laugh or puke.

Good god, is that a hostage video?

[Ozyhibby]

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/11/celtic-refusing-to-co-operate-with-sky-sports-after-morelos-mistranslation-interview?__twitter_impression=true

Celtic refusing to work with Sky.


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[Alan62]

It's true. They even produced a video to promote their campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7abtLC7Ac

I didn't know whether to laugh or puke.

I kept thinking somebody would pop out towards the end and say '...except you, ya F3nian b4st4rd!' While we should applaud any club that tries to stamp out racism and bigotry, you have to wonder if this is just a wee smoke screen to suggest that they're trying while business as usual continues in the stands.

[hibsbollah]

I kept thinking somebody would pop out towards the end and say '...except you, ya F3nian b4st4rd!' .

:faf: me too

[Groathillgrump]

I kept thinking somebody would pop out towards the end and say '...except you, ya F3nian b4st4rd!' While we should applaud any club that tries to stamp out racism and bigotry, you have to wonder if this is just a wee smoke screen to suggest that they're trying while business as usual continues in the stands.

That's exactly how I see it, Alan. It's a vehicle to deflect attention away from the rampant sectarianism that exists at Ibrox.

It'll never work as long as there's 50,000 bigots belting out songs about being up to their knees in fenian blood. :rolleyes:

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Smart move - now they can allege it’s just the others that don’t want to work with us...

[KWJ]

Fair play to them on making the video but it's been up for months and barely got 10k views. For everyone, anyone unless you're what they fancy singing and abusing that day.

[Keith_M]

Fair play to them on making the video but it's been up for months and barely got 10k views. For everyone, anyone unless you're what they fancy singing and abusing that day.


You're more generous than me, because all I see is a PR stunt from Sectarian FC.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IhlZ6aLgTQ&t=245s


A year ago. So unfair. Infamy, infamy!

What a complete and utter ****er he is

[Rumble de Thump]

Does Traynor have any journalism or PR qualifications?

[HoboHarry]

What a complete and utter ****er he is
It's just impossible to take him seriously and a fair portion of the blame should be given to Sevco for giving the buffoon the platform to air his nonsense.

[Frogga]

It seems to be the modern model for the powerful.

Rangers do it
Celtic do it
Trump does it
Johnston does it

One word for it is NASTY.You're so right. What Traynor is doing IS basically what Trump is doing - unite the followers in a mass frenzy against the media and create/exaggerate enemies. It's all propaganda and the vast majority of their fans are too stupid to think for themselves. It's all been heading in a ridiculously poisonous direction since Traynor took hold. It's sport, not politics ffs!

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[Carheenlea]

Does Traynor have any journalism or PR qualifications?

He won’t have any PR qualifications or background I’m sure. A long career in newspapers would give him some knowledge on how a big club like Rangers could use the written press to their advantage, but he is a relic from the days of smoke filled offices and long boozy lunches, and the newspaper game, and media in general has moved on. Grizzled old hacks like Traynor should be nowhere near a PR job at a top football club like Rangers, but as we know, Rangers are a club who have little appetite to drag themselves into modern day standards and thinking.

[FilipinoHibs]

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/11/celtic-refusing-to-co-operate-with-sky-sports-after-morelos-mistranslation-interview?__twitter_impression=true

Celtic refusing to work with Sky.


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Hope there is an OFCOM investigation as it will get to the bottom of where the translation came from.

[Smartie]

Hope there us an OFCOM investigation as it will get to the bottom of where the translation came from.

Celtic aren’t daft.

At the very least they’re driving a wedge between Sevco and their most saleable asset. At most they’re about to shine a torchlight on extremely shady media manipulation that their biggest rivals have been able to get away with for decades.

The green bigots sure don’t like being called out as bigots.

[The 90+2]

Celtic aren’t daft.

At the very least they’re driving a wedge between Sevco and their most saleable asset. At most they’re about to shine a torchlight on extremely shady media manipulation that their biggest rivals have been able to get away with for decades.

The green bigots sure don’t like being called out as bigots.

I’m hoping it all doesn’t get swept under the carpet because it could get extremely tasty.

[007]

Has there been an explanation why it took nearly 6 weeks for the story re the 12 year old boy to come out / the police to charge him?

What a coincidence re the timing.

[The 90+2]

Has there been an explanation why it took nearly 6 weeks for the story re the 12 year old boy to come out / the police to charge him?

What a coincidence re the timing.

I don’t think that information would be allowed to be released until after trial/children’s panel.

[Diclonius]

Was Stewart on Sportsound tonight?

[007]

I don’t think that information would be allowed to be released until after trial/children’s panel.

It just strikes me as suspicious as to why the story came out when it did. I want Michael Stewart back on the radio asking why are we only just finding about this incident that took place on 29th December.

[The 90+2]

It just strikes me as suspicious as to why the story came out when it did. I want Michael Stewart back on the radio asking why are we only just finding about this incident that took place on 29th December.

Of course and I’m in complete agreement with you. It’s more than suspicious and the wee lad is being made a patsy. There’s no way information on the case will be released before conviction/acquittal though.

[The 90+2]

Was Stewart on Sportsound tonight?

Nah.

[Kato]

Has there been an explanation why it took nearly 6 weeks for the story re the 12 year old boy to come out / the police to charge him?

What a coincidence re the timing.One scenario..

The mistranslation comes to light leaving the buns looking like diddys

An enraged obese person contracted at Ibrox contacts a sympathetic rozzer and demands that the match footage is forensicly scrutinised and that something resembling racist language is discovered

Rozzers come up with meagre evidence of wee laddie mouthing something

Enraged obese person acts as judge and jury on club website, imagines that job is done (it's not they just look like petty, conspiratorial, Masonic diddies)


Maybe a bit extreme and over-dramatic but we are dealing with extreme drama queens.

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[HoboHarry]

One scenario..

The mistranslation comes to light leaving the buns looking like diddys

An enraged obese person contracted at Ibrox contacts a sympathetic rozzer and demands that the match footage is forensicly scrutinised and that something resembling racist language is discovered

Rozzers come up with meagre evidence of wee laddie mouthing something

Enraged obese person acts as judge and jury on club website, imagines that job is done (it's not they just look like petty, conspiratorial, Masonic diddies)


Maybe a bit extreme and over-dramatic but we are dealing with extreme drama queens.

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Nope, not at all - you are probably fairly close to the mark regarding the spherical Govan based buffoon.

[WestCoastHibby]

James "zzzzzzz" McFadden ...

Great player, snoozefest of a pundit

[JeMeSouviens]

You're more generous than me, because all I see is a PR stunt from Sectarian FC.

Exactly. For it to carry any weight their “campaign” would have to acknowledge and apologise for their longstanding bigotry/racism problem, not pretend they never had one!

[Ozyhibby]

James "zzzzzzz" McFadden ...

Great player, snoozefest of a pundit

Wasn’t even that good a player.


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[Northernhibee]

Tell you what, when they do win the league (which they will do at some point) it'll be ten times worse. Brexit has shown that if you get a lot of people angry about something, they remain angry even when they get what they want but they seem to want to rub it in other peoples faces.

[Cataplana]

Tell you what, when they do win the league (which they will do at some point) it'll be ten times worse. Brexit has shown that if you get a lot of people angry about something, they remain angry even when they get what they want but they seem to want to rub it in other peoples faces.

They have been doing that since 1690 to be fair.

[007]

Of course and I’m in complete agreement with you. It’s more than suspicious and the wee lad is being made a patsy. There’s no way information on the case will be released before conviction/acquittal though.

I expect the case to be dropped due to the evidence being not quite conclusive enough with no details released at all for the boy's protection. Then we'll never know if he ever existed in the first place.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I expect the case to be dropped due to the evidence being not quite conclusive enough with no details released at all for the boy's protection. Then we'll never know if he ever existed in the first place.

I cite the Case of Drylaw Jambo numpty versus Lennon. No case to answer - dismissed due to “lack of evidence” and numpty Jambo V Bartley.

[SquashedFrogg]

Wasn’t even that good a player.


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Seriously? I thought he was a cracking wee player in his prime.

Played over 100 games in the EPL and is joint 7th in leading goalscorers for his Country. Was outstanding for Scotland.

[HoboHarry]

Seriously? I thought he was a cracking wee player in his prime.

Played over 100 games in the EPL and is joint 7th in leading goalscorers for his Country. Was outstanding for Scotland.
He was, it's no wonder some of our players get slated for not being good enough when the likes of McFadden were, errrr, ahem....not very good......

[Smartie]

Seriously? I thought he was a cracking wee player in his prime.

Played over 100 games in the EPL and is joint 7th in leading goalscorers for his Country. Was outstanding for Scotland.

McFadden was outstanding for his country and fans of the national side will always hold him in special regard.

A decent argument could be made that he wasn't all that great a domestic player though.

[SquashedFrogg]

McFadden was outstanding for his country and fans of the national side will always hold him in special regard.

A decent argument could be made that he wasn't all that great a domestic player though.

The comment suggested he wasn't actually that good a player. I'm disagreeing with that statement as I think it's nonsense.

Domestically he's had a career many would love to have had. I'd love to see players who aren't that good at Hibs.

Internationally he'd stroll into the current team.

[Smartie]

The comment suggested he wasn't actually that good a player. I'm disagreeing with that statement as I think it's nonsense.

Domestically he's had a career many would love to have had. I'd love to see players who aren't that good at Hibs.

Internationally he'd stroll into the current team.

I loved McFadden.

One of my all-time favourite non Hibs players.

There's something special about that type of player who can break down a defence or light up a deadlocked match with a moment of genius, and he had it.

So I'm not having it that he's anything other than a very good player indeed.

I would argue though that he probably didn't have the domestic career that I thought his talent merited.