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bill_reed
22-01-2020, 06:32 AM
Ross County
are set to conclude a permanent deal for striker Oli Shaw
after having a six-figure bid accepted by Hibernian
for the Scotland Under-21
striker. (Daily Express, print edition)

Jones28
22-01-2020, 06:33 AM
Good luck to him, if I was him I’d have been angling for a move too.

04Sauzee
22-01-2020, 06:33 AM
If true we must be on the verge of btinging 1 in

JohnM1875
22-01-2020, 06:35 AM
Fair play, Oli. Good luck. Always gave 100% in a Hibs shirt.

Hibee Mac
22-01-2020, 06:36 AM
If true we must be on the verge of btinging 1 in

Surely Jamie Gullan fills his spot?

Hibs90
22-01-2020, 06:40 AM
Good move for him, imagine we have a decent sell on for the best young striker in Europe.

Golden Bear
22-01-2020, 06:48 AM
A good move for Oli.

I'm not convinced he got a fair crack of the whip at Hibs, it will be interesting to see how his career maps out from now on.

supermcginn
22-01-2020, 06:49 AM
Great news. Good luck to him

04Sauzee
22-01-2020, 06:50 AM
Surely Jamie Gullan fills his spot?

He didn't on Sunday though?

supermcginn
22-01-2020, 06:51 AM
Surely Jamie Gullan fills his spot?

No chance, this money will be used on McNulty.

Hibee Mac
22-01-2020, 06:52 AM
He didn't on Sunday though?

That's one game though, we're talking on average over the course of the rest of the season. You could argue that a 3rd striker wasn't needed on the bench considering we played 433 with Kamberi as a wide man.

I think if this comes true with Oli then it makes Gullan's recall make a lot more sense now.

jeffers
22-01-2020, 06:53 AM
Good luck to him if it happens, when he first broke into the squad I had high hopes for him, but for whatever reasons he just hasn’t kicked on from there.

I’m encouraged with the players Jack Ross is moving on, although I suppose it’s who he brings in that he will really be judged on.

1van Sprou7e
22-01-2020, 06:57 AM
A good move for Oli.

I'm not convinced he got a fair crack of the whip at Hibs, it will be interesting to see how his career maps out from now on.

I agree, his goal and assist statistics per minute played are fantastic. If he becomes more confident he will be a great striker

hibsbollah
22-01-2020, 06:58 AM
I like Olli, good luck up there.

Nicho87
22-01-2020, 06:59 AM
Good luck. Didn’t improve or take his chances imo. Fluffed too many.

Bangkok Hibby
22-01-2020, 06:59 AM
A bit gutted to hear this to be honest. Was never sure why he didn't get more game minutes but was resigned to him going on loan and coming back a better and more experienced striker. Didn't expect to lose him altogether. Hope
his career kicks on now and he's a success wherever he goes.

Greenbeard
22-01-2020, 07:02 AM
Unfulfilled promise, despite limited game time, so I'd have preferred to see him away on loan, at least initially to better judge if he can do the biz with regular football.

The Spaceman
22-01-2020, 07:03 AM
Think he has to go. Last season was his big shot and unfortunately did not work out.

Think there is a good SPFL striker in there and he needs a lot more senior game time than he is going to get under us.

BILLYHIBS
22-01-2020, 07:03 AM
You just know this is going to come back to haunt us

Not convinced by McNulty either

Lets see what happens?

Good luck Olly

Time stands still for no man

:thumbsup:

Steven79
22-01-2020, 07:05 AM
You just know this is going to come back to haunt us

Not convinced by McNulty either

Lets see what happens?

Good luck Olly

Time stands still for no man

:thumbsup:

Hopefully he is signed in time and can play against that lot tonight...

Stuart93
22-01-2020, 07:05 AM
I’m hoping a striker is brought in permanently now as oppose to a loan if Shaw’s been sold

Bostonhibby
22-01-2020, 07:08 AM
A good move for Oli.

I'm not convinced he got a fair crack of the whip at Hibs, it will be interesting to see how his career maps out from now on.This is where I am. Rated him and sorry to see him go. Good luck to the guy.

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B.H.F.C
22-01-2020, 07:10 AM
A good move for Oli.

I'm not convinced he got a fair crack of the whip at Hibs, it will be interesting to see how his career maps out from now on.

Over 50 appearances and got starts in quite a few big games. It’s more than most will get coming through the academy.

He’d come in, do something good, then not really kick on the next week or two and find himself back on the bench. I’ve always thought he’s lacked a bit of belief and never really looked like he thought he’d become our number nine.

SquashedFrogg
22-01-2020, 07:12 AM
Good luck to him. Hope he does well up there.

Allant1981
22-01-2020, 07:14 AM
Thought he may have stayed until the end of the season as we are a bit light up front but he needed to leave the club for the sake of his own career, 3 managers have now not played him consistently so he obviously isnt good enough for the club, good luck to him at RC though

calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 07:18 AM
You just know this is going to come back to haunt us

Not convinced by McNulty either

Lets see what happens?

Good luck Olly

Time stands still for no man

:thumbsup:

Can’t see it. We worry about that happening all the time but it hardly ever happens.

Good luck to him but he’s not shown enough to justify keeping him here imo.

green with envy
22-01-2020, 07:18 AM
I was talking to his mum only yesterday and asked her if there had been any development with the RC rumour from a few weeks ago. All she said that there had been nothing concrete but there were a few other teams looking to sign him.

I hope he gets the move as i know that he wants to play regular and that's obviously not happening for the laddie at Hibs.

Good luck Oli if and when you get the move that can hopefully further your career.

Onion
22-01-2020, 07:20 AM
Good luck to him.

So that's 2 out, 2 long-term injured and 1 in.

vercol36
22-01-2020, 07:21 AM
I feel we maybe should have kept him, but wish him all the best. Great wee club Ross County, and hopefully should be able to give him the game time he needs

BILLYHIBS
22-01-2020, 07:22 AM
Can’t see it. We worry about that happening all the time but it hardly ever happens.

Good luck to him but he’s not shown enough to justify keeping him here imo.

Yip! We said the same about Brian Graham :greengrin

chrisski33
22-01-2020, 07:23 AM
Good luck oli! Hope he does well but can see him scoring against us!

Pretty Boy
22-01-2020, 07:30 AM
Good luck to him. Knows where the net is but maybe just didn't quite kick on as well all hoped.

Sometimes players show bags of potential and then just reach a plateau. Maybe that is what has happened with Shaw.

HibsGW
22-01-2020, 07:31 AM
Good luck to him.

So that's 2 out, 2 long-term injured and 1 in.

Mallan injured for 2 or 3 months or so as well isn’t he?

calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 07:32 AM
Good luck to him.

So that's 2 out, 2 long-term injured and 1 in.

Gullane is in as well to some extent since he wasn’t available to us so far this season. And presumably he’s in to replace Shaw. So it’s more 2 out, 2 in, 2 long term injured.

DavieRoy
22-01-2020, 07:35 AM
Right decision. He seems a nice lad, maybe too nice. A fresh start will hopefully do him good.

I felt sorry for him when the best prospect in Europe thing came out. He didn’t ask for that and he wouldn’t have been getting paid as one of the best prospects. That showed the nativity and desperation to spin in club media at the time. We knew he wasn’t, so nobody bought it!

There is obviously a player in there. He has the motivation to prove a point. All the best to him.

04Sauzee
22-01-2020, 07:35 AM
Good luck to him.

So that's 2 out, 2 long-term injured and 1 in.

Omeonga and Bogdan are in

Since452
22-01-2020, 07:36 AM
Needed to happen

Diclonius
22-01-2020, 07:36 AM
Best of luck Oli.

Since when did Ross County have a six-figure sum to spend?

MyJo
22-01-2020, 07:39 AM
Good luck to him. He is a decent player but just not quite at the level we need and hasn’t been able to nail down a place despite us being short handed up front for a season and half.

Hope he kicks-on and does well up there

The 90+2
22-01-2020, 07:41 AM
Omeonga and Bogdan are in



Good luck Oli. Hopefully a clause to get him back if all things go well!

Bogdan was here before the window.

Hibs4185
22-01-2020, 07:45 AM
Hope he goes straight into the squad and scores a couple
Tonight to put another nail in the yams coffin

BILLYHIBS
22-01-2020, 07:47 AM
Good luck Oli. Hopefully a clause to get him back if all things go well!

Bogdan was here before the window.

Ha Ha!

Never heard of receiving a six figure sum then a clause to get a player back if things go well :greengrin

J-C
22-01-2020, 07:48 AM
Where is this being reported?

Heisenberg
22-01-2020, 07:52 AM
Where is this being reported?

Daily express print edition. DR and the Sun have picked it up from their report.

GreenCastle
22-01-2020, 07:53 AM
Ha Ha!

Never heard of receiving a six figure sum then a clause to get a player back if things go well :greengrin

Happens all the time - players are sold for millions then previous clubs have 1st chance to resign if they agree the price.

I hope Hibs have a buy back clause as I can see him scoring goals and doing well with a run of games.

BILLYHIBS
22-01-2020, 07:54 AM
Happens all the time - players are sold for millions then previous clubs have 1st chance to resign if they agree the price.

I hope Hibs have a buy back clause as I can see him scoring goals and doing well with a run of games.

Sounds plausible

hibbysam
22-01-2020, 07:56 AM
Good luck to him.

So that's 2 out, 2 long-term injured and 1 in.

If we’re counting boys getting injured, surely Gray is counted with the ‘in’ column for returning from injury. We have also brought Gullan back, I’ve no doubt we will now be signing a striker imminently as Ross always said shaw would only go if we could bring someone in.

If it is McNulty then he is a massive upgrade on Shaw.

I’m comfortable with where we are but we probably need a holding midfielder, a striker (McNulty) and if money allows it a right back, but it’s not a position we are desperate for with 2/3 players that can fit in.

scoopyboy
22-01-2020, 07:56 AM
Good luck Oli. Hopefully a clause to get him back if all things go well!

Bogdan was here before the window.

Yes he was, but his contract ran out in the window.

So ne contract counts as player in, well in my book anyway:greengrin

The 90+2
22-01-2020, 07:59 AM
Happens all the time - players are sold for millions then previous clubs have 1st chance to resign if they agree the price.

I hope Hibs have a buy back clause as I can see him scoring goals and doing well with a run of games.

👍

The 90+2
22-01-2020, 08:00 AM
Yes he was, but his contract ran out in the window.

So ne contract counts as player in, well in my book anyway:greengrin

:😁

The Modfather
22-01-2020, 08:00 AM
Wish him all the best, hopefully starting tonight against Hearts 😀 think he’ll do well there.

Hopefully this is a sign that we’re going to be more ruthless and make the hard decisions needed with this squad rebuild.

Heckys Wheel
22-01-2020, 08:01 AM
6 figure sum? Bite their hand off and good luck to the lad.

Waxy
22-01-2020, 08:05 AM
Best of luck Oli.

Since when did Ross County have a six-figure sum to spend?

Think they do the benefactor thing.

makaveli1875
22-01-2020, 08:08 AM
The Shaw haters will be whacking off at this news, until he comes back to haunt us. Disappointed to see him going tbh

RoxburghHibs
22-01-2020, 08:09 AM
Good luck to him, if true this is a good move for all parties.

Gullan will no doubt step into his squad position and hopefully we have some funds to bring in another striker (McNulty?).

Souter96Mac
22-01-2020, 08:10 AM
Would look to try and put Gullan on loan to a Championship team, and bring in McNulty. With Boyle back, and being used further up the park, I think we'd have plenty of options.

easty
22-01-2020, 08:11 AM
The Shaw haters will be whacking off at this news, until he comes back to haunt us. Disappointed to see him going tbh

Shaw haters?

He doesn’t really get enough stick to warrant a haters fan club.

HUTCHYHIBBY
22-01-2020, 08:12 AM
The Shaw haters will be whacking off at this news, until he comes back to haunt us. Disappointed to see him going tbh

Any names for us? Can't think of seeing any hate towards Shaw on here.

Captain Trips
22-01-2020, 08:15 AM
Some big goals in his time. All the best son.

we are hibs
22-01-2020, 08:16 AM
Was pretty obvious something had to give. Hes at an age where he either needed to play or be moved on as it was doing neither hibs or himself any favours sitting on the bench contributing little. Hibs have obviously decided theres better out there. No harm done, not every player who comes through the academy is going to make it and im glad in a way we arent persisting with him purely on that factor. Good luck to him, apart from against us at easter road in a few weeks.

hibbysam
22-01-2020, 08:17 AM
Would look to try and put Gullan on loan to a Championship team, and bring in McNulty. With Boyle back, and being used further up the park, I think we'd have plenty of options.

If you put Gullan on loan, and sold Shaw, we would have the front three from Sunday plus McNulty and Horgan. That’s nowhere near enough options for me. Gullan needs to stay now and get more exposure in the first team, especially if we have 5/6 meaningless games towards the end of the season.

green with envy
22-01-2020, 08:19 AM
The Shaw haters will be whacking off at this news, until he comes back to haunt us. Disappointed to see him going tbh

Try thinking before spraffing rubbish. I've never seen any post on here to suggest that Oli Shaw was hated.

Shrekko
22-01-2020, 08:19 AM
Any names for us? Can't think of seeing any hate towards Shaw on here.

Hate is probably too strong but he was written off pretty quickly by plenty- but that's the norm these days to be fair. Dempster didn't help him with her ridiculous comment which I see got referred to pretty quickly on this thread.

I thought he had something to offer and it's a real pity it's not quite worked out. Think he'll do well at RC.

California-Hibs
22-01-2020, 08:20 AM
Very surprised a club like Ross County are spending 6 figures - £100,000

Captain Trips
22-01-2020, 08:20 AM
Any names for us? Can't think of seeing any hate towards Shaw on here.

It will likely be if at anytime critical means hate quite often. Like I have been less than happy with our defenders so I hate them all.

Greencore
22-01-2020, 08:21 AM
Would be happy with this IF a sell on fee is included.

Onceinawhile
22-01-2020, 08:21 AM
Very surprised a club like Ross County are spending 6 figures - £100,000

Think they have a relatively well off chairman?

Could be £9,999.99:wink:

Hakim Sar
22-01-2020, 08:22 AM
Ross County/bottom six/top of the Championship is probably about the peak of his level.

I don’t think he was ever going to be good enough for us. Needs some physical development and needs about one and a half seasons worth of regular first team game time to perhaps find some self belief and confidence.

Quite pleased we are moving on. Good luck to him though.

Steven79
22-01-2020, 08:22 AM
How different things have worked out for him if that "goal" against Hearts at Tynecastle a few years ago had stood.

we are hibs
22-01-2020, 08:23 AM
Very surprised a club like Ross County are spending 6 figures - £100,000

Rich chairman/owner and they also recieved a hefty fee for some youth player from aberdeen in the last week

Bostonhibby
22-01-2020, 08:27 AM
How different things have worked out for him if that "goal" against Hearts at Tynecastle a few years ago had stood.Won't be the first Hibs goalscorer to be cheated out of a goal at the wee stadium and sadly I'd be amazed if he was the last.

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madhatter
22-01-2020, 08:29 AM
When given his chance last season how many times did he destroy our counter attacks and fluff reasonably easy chances? He has talent but at 21 he should be further along in his development. A lot like Sam Stanton and Callum Booth. I think Murray will be next to leave. Shaw and Murray have stalled. Hopefully both go to have decent careers but I dont see it at Hibs.

Bobby's Cinema
22-01-2020, 08:31 AM
The Shaw haters will be whacking off at this news, until he comes back to haunt us. Disappointed to see him going tbh
Good luck to him, hasn't quite kicked on and see him being a Briam Graham type bouncing around bottom 6 clubs tbh.

calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 08:31 AM
How different things have worked out for him if that "goal" against Hearts at Tynecastle a few years ago had stood.

Possibly. Although winning goals at Tynie don’t hold as much weight as you’d expect. See Horgan who’s still a bit part player and splits opinion or Ross Caldwell who’s now... well I don’t even know what he’s doing now.

PeeJay
22-01-2020, 08:32 AM
Surprised to hear this, but may well be a good move for him. He has some talent, but his development seemed to stall badly for some reason, not sure why ... have to wish the young guy well though

cam75
22-01-2020, 08:32 AM
Wonder if signs today and scores tonight with a county. Win would be quality🙏

jax67
22-01-2020, 08:35 AM
All the best Oli, hat trick v yams would be good.👍

Carheenlea
22-01-2020, 08:39 AM
Leaves us very short up front so a replacement must be all but secured.

He’s at the age where he needs to play regularly but just hasn’t been able to break through at Hibs. Probably the right time for both parties, and if the fee is as being suggested then it’s a good deal for us. Can only wish him all the best.

Since452
22-01-2020, 08:41 AM
Be brilliant if he scored against the pink bottlers

Since452
22-01-2020, 08:44 AM
It sounds like Ross rates Gullan and wants to keep him as part of the first team group so that would have pushed Shaw even further down the pecking ordee.

calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 08:46 AM
It sounds like Ross rates Gullan and wants to keep him as part of the first team group so that would have pushed Shaw even further down the pecking ordee.

Gullan has been lucky to have the kind of move that Shaw should probably have got at some point.

Hopefully Gullan can show something between now and the end of the season.

Vault Boy
22-01-2020, 08:55 AM
Good luck to him if it all goes through. Gives us scope to bring another striker in too.

jacomo
22-01-2020, 08:56 AM
Sorry to see him go, good player, maybe a bit unlucky in that Hecky clearly didn’t fancy him and that interrupted his promising progress under Lennon.

Even though he is cup tied, I would consider a swap deal with Leigh if Lennon wants to swoop in at this late stage and snap up the best young striker in Europe.

:wink:

Alfred E Newman
22-01-2020, 08:59 AM
Surely Jamie Gullan fills his spot?

Sitting on the bench, getting the last 10 mins, and being the target of the boo boys?

Smartie
22-01-2020, 09:09 AM
This is a good move for all parties.

I’ve never been convinced Shaw is quite at the level we need him to be at, but with games I reckon he might have got there.

At his age he needs to play regularly. Hopefully he’s taking a small step back to take strides forward as he is a likeable lad who clearly has ability.

J-C
22-01-2020, 09:13 AM
Disappointed if this is true, I think he should've been given more of a chance this season instead of spending money on Doidge, that must've been a right kick in the teeth seeing him come in and taking his place. Never really been given a chance but always looked like something was missing, maybe some aggressiveness and ruthlessness.

Hibeewilly
22-01-2020, 09:24 AM
I think Shaw may well come good.... he clearly has ability but as others have said... his development has stalled mainly due to lack of game time. I would prefer to have retained him and sent him out on loan

FilipinoHibs
22-01-2020, 09:26 AM
Good luck Oli. Hopefully a clause to get him back if all things go well!

Bogdan was here before the window.

But not got his 6 months extension.

B.H.F.C
22-01-2020, 09:28 AM
Never really been given a chance but always looked like something was missing, maybe some aggressiveness and ruthlessness.

I disagree with the first part of this sentence but do agree with the second part. In the last year he’s not had much in the way of opportunities but prior to that I think he had a chance to really establish himself and didn’t ever really look like taking it IMO. I just didn’t ever feel like he was going to be our main striker, mainly down to the reasons you mention.

stoneyburn hibs
22-01-2020, 09:29 AM
Good luck to him, probably the right decision for both parties.
Be interesting to see how his career develops.

HH81
22-01-2020, 09:32 AM
Not confirmed by the club?

Andy74
22-01-2020, 09:33 AM
Disappointed if this is true, I think he should've been given more of a chance this season instead of spending money on Doidge, that must've been a right kick in the teeth seeing him come in and taking his place. Never really been given a chance but always looked like something was missing, maybe some aggressiveness and ruthlessness.

Instead of Doidge?

Doidge is better by a considerable distance just now.

I get that it is nice to develop our own players but I don't get it when we are upset that better players come into the club and they aren't good enough to get past them. I want to see Hibs winning. Sure, it would be nice to do that with just players we've developed and it might be more cost effective to do that but the priority is winning games.

There was a spell when Doidge wasn't scoring , then wasn't playing. Shaw didn't manage to get past him then and so saying we would have been better just going with the poorer player this year is madness.

MacGruber
22-01-2020, 09:39 AM
Think this will come back to haunt us. Clearly talented but needing game time. A loan would have been ideal then sell if not doing it. One thing noticable from the few apearances this season was he looked like he had added a bit of pace to his game and put on a bit of muscle.

Oli Shaw to Hibs could be like Martin Boyle to Dundee.

Might rue this.

Waxy
22-01-2020, 09:43 AM
Wish he was staying but all the best Oli.

MrRobot
22-01-2020, 09:49 AM
Would rather it wasn't permanent as I feel he could have offered something if we got regular playing time under his belt, but if he is to leave permanently, I wish him nothing but the best.

Gordy M
22-01-2020, 09:49 AM
Think this will come back to haunt us. Clearly talented but needing game time. A loan would have been ideal then sell if not doing it. One thing noticable from the few apearances this season was he looked like he had added a bit of pace to his game and put on a bit of muscle.

Oli Shaw to Hibs could be like Martin Boyle to Dundee.

Might rue this.

I see this written quite a bit about players coming back to haunt us etc. I know there is chance it could happen but i cant really think of anyone we have let go that has come back to haunt us? A lot of young players we have let go, Hibs end up being the biggest team they played for.

Northernhibee
22-01-2020, 09:50 AM
He has a lot of potential, but he's not had game time and I fear that he'll have regressed as a footballer.

I hope he does well.

Peevemor
22-01-2020, 09:51 AM
I see this written quite a bit about players coming back to haunt us etc. I know there is chance it could happen but i cant really think of anyone we have let go that has come back to haunt us? A lot of young players we have let go, Hibs end up being the biggest team they played for.

Paul Wright then Paul Hartley are the last 2 I can think of.

Other decent players that have left (eg. Brown) we didn't really have much choice.

Captain Trips
22-01-2020, 09:54 AM
The fact he was played in Spain is quite telling. I think JR was going to maybe use him more and then County made offer that JR felt would allow him to get in a player he had wanted? Of course only if actually going to County. I would be surprised if this was not only subject to somebody agreeing to come in.

Not In The Know
22-01-2020, 09:55 AM
He has a lot of potential, but he's not had game time and I fear that he'll have regressed as a footballer.

I hope he does well.

Im certainly not questioning Oli's professionalism and training as i don't thant that's in doubt but i never saw a real desire or hunger in his performances on the pitch. Maybe he's just too easy going and needs a bit ruthlessness in him to kick on. This step down might be the jolt he needs.

Logie
22-01-2020, 09:58 AM
Bit gutted by this as felt he would come good but just hasn’t happened for him... however if it means we can get another striker in who can challenge Doidge for a starting spot that is ideal, he works hard and has scored some goals now but no really the kind of striker I want us starting with week in week out. I reckon we have someone lined up on the back of this deal ready to announce, sure Heckingbottom mentioned shaw would only leave previously if we could bring someone else in. Appreciate new manager but low in numbers up top now so assume it would be the same case

Northernhibee
22-01-2020, 10:00 AM
Im certainly not questioning Oli's professionalism and training as i don't thant that's in doubt but i never saw a real desire or hunger in his performances on the pitch. Maybe he's just too easy going and needs a bit ruthlessness in him to kick on. This step down might be the jolt he needs.

Going by the pre season friendly against Arbroath, he was far quicker than I remembered him being, he'd picked up a couple of yards of pace and his finishing let him down. If we were able to coach him in terms of his finishing and composure he'd have been a real asset this season.

blackpoolhibs
22-01-2020, 10:12 AM
He is a player with decent stats, his goals for game time is pretty good, yet I never saw him come on in any game and thought I hope he starts next week. Good luck to the lad, I hope we use the money well.

mentalhibee
22-01-2020, 10:13 AM
Wonder who we’ll get in on another loan deal to replace him?

HoboHarry
22-01-2020, 10:18 AM
Ross County are able to afford a six figure fee? Really?

supermcginn
22-01-2020, 10:18 AM
Disappointed if this is true, I think he should've been given more of a chance this season instead of spending money on Doidge, that must've been a right kick in the teeth seeing him come in and taking his place. Never really been given a chance but always looked like something was missing, maybe some aggressiveness and ruthlessness.
Shaw has played nearly twice as many games as doidge in their hibs careers yet they have the same amount of goals. Doidge is far better.

Barman Stanton
22-01-2020, 10:23 AM
Shaw has played nearly twice as many games as doidge in their hibs careers yet they have the same amount of goals. Doidge is far better.

I think Doidge must have slept with some on here's partners. Guy can do no right for some.

Agree Doidge is a far better player. And at 27 he is not exactly old either.

jacomo
22-01-2020, 10:50 AM
I think Doidge must have slept with some on here's partners. Guy can do no right for some.

Agree Doidge is a far better player. And at 27 he is not exactly old either.


:agree:

I like Shaw, but if he saw the signing of Doidge as a ‘kick in the teeth’ then his attitude isn’t right.

(I know I am only quoting a poster on here, not the player himself).

Every footballer must expect competition for places, and the higher you go, the harder the fight to get into the team. This is how it should be.

eastmainsmsh
22-01-2020, 10:59 AM
wish Oli was staying been unlucky with lack of game time he has great potential good luck

wookie70
22-01-2020, 11:01 AM
Good luck Oli. Never given a proper chance so a no brainer to leave for another top League club where game time and proper development is more likely. I suspect he will score regularly if given the chance and have a decent top League career like Witherspoon. If he kicks on it could be better than that.

Unseen work
22-01-2020, 11:01 AM
Am I right in saying Shaw hasn’t started or scored for us since Dempster branded him one of the best strikers in Europe for his age?

For me if he goes to county he will do well and score goals, leaving some fans asking the question about why we let him go and maybe rightly so.

But, if you take out the sentiment of him being a product of our youth academy, we’ve had a first team player contributing next to nothing for a year and if was anyone else they would rightly be leaving.

I actually quite like him and I think being a bigger fish I’m a smaller pond so to speak will suit him, Iv no doubt he will do well at county and score a decent amount of goals for them.

Wonder if we would try work a deal so we got the lad Ross Stewart in return?

All the best Oli.

lord bunberry
22-01-2020, 11:01 AM
I think this is a mistake, he should be loaned to a team like Ross County. None of us know how good the boy actually is due to the lack of game time he’s had recently. A loan deal to another premiership team would’ve told us everything we needed to know about him. I hope this story isn’t true.

KingPat4
22-01-2020, 11:08 AM
Sad to see him go.

Hope we pass on Mc Nulty though, two goals all season

Hibiza
22-01-2020, 11:10 AM
All the best Oli.

Hibbyradge
22-01-2020, 11:10 AM
I think this is a mistake, he should be loaned to a team like Ross County. None of us know how good the boy actually is due to the lack of game time he’s had recently. A loan deal to another premiership team would’ve told us everything we needed to know about him. I hope this story isn’t true.

It's not a mistake if we're using the money to bring in a better player.

Peevemor
22-01-2020, 11:11 AM
Am I right in saying Shaw hasn’t started or scored for us since Dempster branded him one of the best strikers in Europe for his age?


In terms of competitive games is last goal was 2 February 2019 in a 2-1 defeat to Aberdeen at ER.

Last match he started was away to Celtic 4 days later.

HendoDelivered
22-01-2020, 11:18 AM
Good signing for County. One of the best young strikers in Europe :greengrin

green with envy
22-01-2020, 11:22 AM
Good signing for County. One of the best young strikers in Europe :greengrin

Done to death!

B.H.F.C
22-01-2020, 11:26 AM
Good luck Oli. Never given a proper chance so a no brainer to leave for another top League club where game time and proper development is more likely. I suspect he will score regularly if given the chance and have a decent top League career like Witherspoon. If he kicks on it could be better than that.

Agree that it’s a bit of a no brainer and good move for him. I’d say it’s also a no brainer for us if we can get a six figure fee for someone who has played 60 minutes of league football all year.

Can’t agree, as I’ve posted elsewhere, that he’s never been given a proper chance though. He’s started big games against the likes of Hearts and Celtic. He’s shown some promise here and there but then never really kicked on. 95% of players that come through our academy will never get the chances he’s had.

matty_f
22-01-2020, 11:30 AM
Right move for all parties, I think. I liked Oli, he's been shy of confidence for a while now so hopefully for his sake he kicks on from here.

Since452
22-01-2020, 11:36 AM
Don't want to sound bad but I'm absolutely delighted to get a six figure sum for Shaw. Best move for his career.

hibbie02
22-01-2020, 11:39 AM
A shame to lose him, as I thought he had great potential. I suspect he will haunt us in future. If only that goal at the Gorgie dump had been given, he would have been a hero. However, if we can use that money to get a Sparky in, then needs must.

WeeRussell
22-01-2020, 11:41 AM
I'd have liked to have kept him on the books, but if it is six figures and we bring in a new (decent) front man I'll get over it.

All the best to the young lad, clearly has a lot of potential.

JohnMcM
22-01-2020, 11:52 AM
Good luck to you Oli. I. always wanted you to come good at ER. You have the potential, we have seen it, now go out there and make a good career for yourself.

allezsauzee
22-01-2020, 11:52 AM
I confidently predict that Oli will become the new Clayton Donaldson with a thread discussing how stupid we were to let him go every time he goes on a run of scoring despite never doing enough at Easter Road to justify a run in the team.I wish him all the best but I don't think he was ever likely to be anything better than being cover for our main strikers. Sparky to replace him hopefully (either one).

Jim44
22-01-2020, 11:53 AM
We have to get another striker in, McNulty or another and we settle for that upfront. I just hope that the slight possibility of Kamberi moving on doesn’t materialise. I think the Polish club is still sniffing around or have they had an ‘on your bike’ refusal after an improved offer?

Waxy
22-01-2020, 11:54 AM
A loan to the championship was the way to go.

Scouse Hibee
22-01-2020, 11:56 AM
The Shaw haters will be whacking off at this news, until he comes back to haunt us. Disappointed to see him going tbh

He doesn’t have enough in his locker to come back and haunt us so no worries on that score. Best of luck to him if this is true, not seen it confirmed anywhere.

MWHIBBIES
22-01-2020, 11:56 AM
Disagree with this but we'll see how it works out. We've had much worse first choice strikers than him never mind third choice. And he was still going to improve. Should've loaned him to another prem side this season, or a decent champ side and got 40 games in him.

calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 11:57 AM
I think this is a mistake, he should be loaned to a team like Ross County. None of us know how good the boy actually is due to the lack of game time he’s had recently. A loan deal to another premiership team would’ve told us everything we needed to know about him. I hope this story isn’t true.

It’s not about us knowing how good he is though, it’s about the club and the manager(s) knowing. Then if he’s good enough he’ll get the chance to show us what he can do. 3 different managers haven’t started him and the more time goes on the less we’re seeing of him. That would suggest that the manager(s) and the club have decided he isn’t good enough.

AgentDaleCooper
22-01-2020, 11:57 AM
I think he might be a late developer and go on to play for scotland.

lord bunberry
22-01-2020, 12:03 PM
It's not a mistake if we're using the money to bring in a better player.
Possibly, but I’m not convinced we’re sure how good Oli is yet.

lord bunberry
22-01-2020, 12:06 PM
It’s not about us knowing how good he is though, it’s about the club and the manager(s) knowing. Then if he’s good enough he’ll get the chance to show us what he can do. 3 different managers haven’t started him and the more time goes on the less we’re seeing of him. That would suggest that the manager(s) and the club have decided he isn’t good enough.
You may well be right, but as I said a loan move to Ross County would’ve told us everything we needed to know.

B.H.F.C
22-01-2020, 12:06 PM
Possibly, but I’m not convinced we’re sure how good Oli is yet.

Whatever the reasons, he’s not contributed anything at all this season. If we can move him on and bring someone in who will, then that’s what we need to do.

Hibeesmad
22-01-2020, 12:06 PM
Sounds very much like we are trying to raise the funds for McNulty. Wouldn't be leaving our third choice striker go if there was nobody to replace them.

CapitalGreen
22-01-2020, 12:08 PM
I’ve always seen parallels between Shaw and Calvert-Lewin at Everton. Both lanky, athletic strikers who were prolific at youth level, representing their countries but seemed to struggle with the physical side of stepping up to the first team. Calvert-Lewin is a year older than Shaw is but has only established himself as first choice in recent months following Ferguson’s brief tenure and the appointment of Ancelotti. Good luck to Oli if he leaves, I think he’ll benefit greatly from a manager putting his faith in him and getting a run of starts.

Gaffer1875
22-01-2020, 12:10 PM
Wish the lad well. For me, McNulty is not the answer.


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calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 12:10 PM
You may well be right, but as I said a loan move to Ross County would’ve told us everything we needed to know.

I would have quite liked to see him go on loan over the last couple of seasons. Wouldn’t have been against him going on loan just now but I reckon he’s passed that stage at us. If the funds can be put to good use then it’s a decent move for all imo.

HoboHarry
22-01-2020, 12:10 PM
Posters discussing what we are using the money for - does anyone actually think Ross County have 100,000 to spend on one player? I'll believe that when Hibs announce it.....

Peevemor
22-01-2020, 12:11 PM
Posters discussing what we are using the money for - does anyone actually think Ross County have 100,000 to spend on one player? I'll believe that when Hibs announce it.....

I can't remember the last time Hibs announced a transfer fee in or out.

easty
22-01-2020, 12:12 PM
Posters discussing what we are using the money for - does anyone actually think Ross County have 100,000 to spend on one player? I'll believe that when Hibs announce it.....

No chance they've spent £100k on anyone.

Maybe £25k with an additional £75k if they reach the champions league group stages.

We'll no doubt have a sell on %, so if he does well and gets a move, we'll make some money

Frazerbob
22-01-2020, 12:12 PM
Posters discussing what we are using the money for - does anyone actually think Ross County have 100,000 to spend on one player? I'll believe that when Hibs announce it.....

I do, they have a scatter cash owner.

J-C
22-01-2020, 12:13 PM
I take it this is all still paper talk with no concrete evidence.

WhileTheChief..
22-01-2020, 12:18 PM
Don't want to sound bad but I'm absolutely delighted to get a six figure sum for Shaw. Best move for his career.

Agreed. Cracking bit of business by Hibs.

Coco Bryce
22-01-2020, 12:19 PM
Oli has the ability but sadly his heart just isn't in it.

Always been a problem for him even as a youngster at Spartans.

Heisenberg
22-01-2020, 12:21 PM
STV reporting talks are going well and could be in their squad to play Hearts tonight.

With regards to the cash aspect, I’m sure their owner had them bring in a tonne of players one January when they were looking like going down. He’s got the cash. They also just sold someone to Aberdeen.

HoboHarry
22-01-2020, 12:21 PM
No chance they've spent £100k on anyone.

Maybe £25k with an additional £75k if they reach the champions league group stages.

We'll no doubt have a sell on %, so if he does well and gets a move, we'll make some money
I could believe 25,000 with a sell on fee % but the notion of 100,000 now seems fanciful at best.

easty
22-01-2020, 12:22 PM
I do, they have a scatter cash owner.

Based on thier record of spending £68k in total in thier history on transfer fees....I'm not sure how scatter-cash the owner actually is.

Hibeesmad
22-01-2020, 12:23 PM
Shaw could be playing against Hearts tonight apparently.

#persevered
22-01-2020, 12:25 PM
Jamie Borthwick on twitter saying it could be done soon enough for him to play against Jambos tonight.

I thought he didn't get a fair chance at Hibs but if he goes for 6 figures and then hours later scores against Hearts, surely that could be the best exit of all time.

Since452
22-01-2020, 12:43 PM
If he plays against Hearts tonight I'll be putting a wee bet on him to score. I hope he does well but ultimately he'll go down as another Handling, Stanton and Harris who failed to cut the mustard. We can't carry passengers whether they come through our academy or not and like Vela I'm glad we're moving players on. If he comes back to haunt us and have a good career then well done him. Ross County is a brilliant move for him and a great bit of business by us.

tonyrougier123
22-01-2020, 12:43 PM
Oli has it needs to unlock and unleash it!
This has a bit of the david wotherspoon feel to it for me,I can't help feel the tynie goal that was disallowed would have given him the confidence to kick on.
Also the aberdeen game where he scored played well and then wasn't seen for a while in the team sticks out for me as pivotal.
I hope the laddie can be a success and maybe find his way in the game.
This proves we need to be producing talent with a bit of steely determination and balls.
Ive seen strikers come through at hibs you just know they have/want it.oli still needs to find it.

I think the youth setup needs looked at,we are sending up laddies that are not ready to hold down a place when given the opportunity.

ancient hibee
22-01-2020, 12:48 PM
The News had an interesting article recently drawing attention to the fact that he had a pretty good goal scoring record for the games he started.I think he’ll do very well if played regularly and Ross will sell him for considerably more that they paid.

NC1875
22-01-2020, 12:48 PM
A loan to the championship was the way to go.

How long do you give the Young’ guys though ? He’s been kicking about the first team squad for a few seasons now and never established himself as a starter. We don’t have the funds for passengers and I’m glad Ross sees it the same way that his wage would be better spent elsewhere.

cabbageandribs1875
22-01-2020, 12:51 PM
first month of the year and already one of our official club calendar boys is away





good luck to the laddie

I'm Spartacus
22-01-2020, 12:58 PM
I'm sad he's away as he could have been outstanding under the right coach, unstable Lennon and hopeless Hecky were never going to help him.
I'm glad he's away for his benefit to develop that potential.

Hibeesmad
22-01-2020, 12:59 PM
I'm sad he's away as he could have been outstanding under the right coach, unstable Lennon and hopeless Hecky were never going to help him.
I'm glad he's away for his benefit to develop that potential.

Thought his best spells under us were for Lennon, who gave him debut.

B.H.F.C
22-01-2020, 01:04 PM
I'm sad he's away as he could have been outstanding under the right coach, unstable Lennon and hopeless Hecky were never going to help him.
I'm glad he's away for his benefit to develop that potential.

Lennon played him much more than anybody else.

Started him in big league games and even brought him on in a semi final when he’d never scored a goal for us at that point. Don’t think Lennon can be blamed for his lack of development.

SquashedFrogg
22-01-2020, 01:06 PM
I'm sad he's away as he could have been outstanding under the right coach, unstable Lennon and hopeless Hecky were never going to help him.
I'm glad he's away for his benefit to develop that potential.

Unstable Lennon?

Waxy
22-01-2020, 01:08 PM
How long do you give the Young’ guys though ? He’s been kicking about the first team squad for a few seasons now and never established himself as a starter. We don’t have the funds for passengers and I’m glad Ross sees it the same way that his wage would be better spent elsewhere.
I’d say Oli was a 50/50 stay or leave. Would have been good to see how he’d fair in the championship as the main man.
We will see anyway. Hope he doesnt end up at Edinburgh city or similar.

Lago
22-01-2020, 01:11 PM
first month of the year and already one of our official club calendar boys is away





good luck to the laddie
Yip one of the best young strikers in Europe according to one well informed Hibs official. 🙄

Begbie79
22-01-2020, 01:13 PM
Good luck to him but he wasn't good enough.

Found it far to easy to switch off whenever he started games.

I'm Spartacus
22-01-2020, 01:14 PM
Unstable Lennon?

I know he gave him his start etc but in the long term I don't think Lennon would be ideal as a mentor for that type of player, IMO of course.
I'd really like to see him do well and have a great career.

Barman Stanton
22-01-2020, 01:18 PM
Yip one of the best young strikers in Europe according to one well informed Hibs official. 🙄

People are not half using this as a stick to beat Dempster with. Way I see it she was just trying to big up one of our young players, likes so many other clubs do all the time. Probably had no idea some Hibs fans would be hanging onto it like this in years later. Lesson learnt for her there.

easty
22-01-2020, 01:22 PM
People are not half using this as a stick to beat Dempster with. Way I see it she was just trying to big up one of our young players, likes so many other clubs do all the time. Probably had no idea some Hibs fans would be hanging onto it like this in years later. Lesson learnt for her there.

She said it less than a year ago.

I think if someone says something a bit stupid, it's always gonna be remembered and brought up. That's life.

SanFranHibs
22-01-2020, 01:22 PM
You just know this is going to come back to haunt us

Not convinced by McNulty either

Lets see what happens?

Good luck Olly

Time stands still for no man

:thumbsup:

Don't know if it will come back to haunt us, but I was hopeful he might progress with us.

Not convinced by McNulty either
Agreed. He's ok, but not exactly a SuperMac

Lets see what happens?
All we can do.

Good luck Olly
:agree:

Time stands still for no man
You had to rub it in. See Supermac reference above. :greengrin


Has it been confirmed?

Kaff
22-01-2020, 01:31 PM
Wish Oli all the best and hope he can build his career and does well enough to play for Scotland eventually.
I've always thought he had enough to do it at Hibs but perhaps if he'd had the game time Jason Cummings got in the Championship he could well have had a better start to his career, his opportunities have been sporadic at best and probably as said above a more 'reliable' manager like Stubbs could have given him that bit of continuity.
The balance to that is perhaps a lack of ruthlessness from Stubbs to get the job done at all costs and get promoted but imo the player development was far better than we've had in recent years and is certainly worth reflection, I'm hoping Jack has the balance of both these things, not an easy achievement

The Harp
22-01-2020, 01:37 PM
Would've preferred him to have gone out on loan to a decent Championship outfit.
Always wanted him to establish himself with us but maybe a fresh start will be what he needs for the good of his career.
Good luck Oli.

Stonewall
22-01-2020, 01:50 PM
I’m sorry to see him go but think it might be for the best.

It is however hard not to see this as another crashing indictment of our youth development system. He seemed to be progressing well under Lennon, who was prepared to show faith in him and give him a chance. When Hecky arrived he was ignored in favour of various journeymen like McNulty and his confidence undermined. He almost looked like he was trying too hard on the odd occasion he was seen and appeared to be going backwards.

We must have the worst record in the SPL in bringing through young players despite having youth teams who perform constantly well and I hope that our new owner is asking why. Not only due to those in charge of youth development but also managers being spineless and not pushing them through imo.

The next time a manager says a player is ‘not quite ready yet’ it may well be translated as ‘I’m scared of losing my job’.

Alfred E Newman
22-01-2020, 01:56 PM
I’m sorry to see him go but think it might be for the best.

It is however hard not to see this as another crashing indictment of our youth development system. He seemed to be progressing well under Lennon, who was prepared to show faith in him and give him a chance. When Hecky arrived he was ignored in favour of various journeymen like McNulty and his confidence undermined. He almost looked like he was trying too hard on the odd occasion he was seen and appeared to be going backwards.

We must have the worst record in the SPL in bringing through young players despite having youth teams who perform constantly well and I hope that our new owner is asking why. Not only due to those in charge of youth development but also managers being spineless and not pushing them through imo.

The next time a manager says a player is ‘not quite ready yet’ it may well be translated as ‘I’m scared of losing my job’.
I think you have nailed it. My views exactly. :agree:

easty
22-01-2020, 01:56 PM
The next time a manager says a player is ‘not quite ready yet’ it may well be translated as ‘I’m scared of losing my job’.

A managers job is to get results. They don't leave out young players cos they're scared, they leave them out cos they think they're picking the best team.

hibbysam
22-01-2020, 01:58 PM
I’m sorry to see him go but think it might be for the best.

It is however hard not to see this as another crashing indictment of our youth development system. He seemed to be progressing well under Lennon, who was prepared to show faith in him and give him a chance. When Hecky arrived he was ignored in favour of various journeymen like McNulty and his confidence undermined. He almost looked like he was trying too hard on the odd occasion he was seen and appeared to be going backwards.

We must have the worst record in the SPL in bringing through young players despite having youth teams who perform constantly well and I hope that our new owner is asking why. Not only due to those in charge of youth development but also managers being spineless and not pushing them through imo.

The next time a manager says a player is ‘not quite ready yet’ it may well be translated as ‘I’m scared of losing my job’.

Shaw had more than enough opportunity but you cannot tell me that you sit here saying ‘I’d be confident of him coming on and turning a game for us’. No club in Scotland consistently bring through players to feature in the first team. A few unearth a couple of gems now and again, or throw them in as they are skint or desperate, but if we want to be 3rd/4th then Oli Shaw is nowhere near good enough, and the fact people say ‘he needs more of a chance’ says it all, he hasn’t taken his chances.

As for McNulty, he came in and scored goals on a weekly basis and got a scotland call up for his performances, a far better player than Shaw, and proved himself time and again.

Ps our starting lineup on Sunday had 4 homegrown players playing, probably more than most other clubs!

easty
22-01-2020, 02:00 PM
As for McNulty, he came in and scored goals on a weekly basis and got a scotland call up for his performances, a far better player than Shaw, and proved himself time and again.

Aye for the first 3 weeks he did. After that he was far from prolific

J-C
22-01-2020, 02:00 PM
If he's playing tonight, the club better announce it quickly as there's not a lot of time left.

Phil MaGlass
22-01-2020, 02:03 PM
Good luck tae the lad, this will come back and bite us on the erchie, guaranteed.

theonlywayisup
22-01-2020, 02:07 PM
Don't know if it's been mentioned before, but rarely have we seen a player released (or sold) as not being deemed good enough to cement a place in the Hibs team kicking on to become a star. Over the years, I can't think of many that we said "look at him now".

I really do hope for Ollie Shaw that we are proved wrong. I do think there is a player in there who could play at a higher level than Hibs, but lack of first team action / lack of confidence / lack of ability would tend to indicate that he's reached his level.

I really do hope that he knocks in the goals at Ross County. Confidence is an amazing thing and can be the difference between a player hitting the top corner of the goals or hitting the corner flag.

Go on Ollie, show Hibs that we were wrong to let you go.

heretoday
22-01-2020, 02:07 PM
That's a shame. He was a good-looking clean-cut lad.
The rest of them are a bit hairy-ersed to be honest.

ABZHFC
22-01-2020, 02:09 PM
I'm certain he'll be considered 'one who got away' in a few seasons time, a good player and I'll be sad if he goes for good

bigwheel
22-01-2020, 02:14 PM
I'm certain he'll be considered 'one who got away' in a few seasons time, a good player and I'll be sad if he goes for good

Hope he is - would Love to see him do well


There are too many decisions we get wrong ...few who’ve played for our first team, get let go and end up having a great career...for most they end up at a lower level ....

Oscar T Grouch
22-01-2020, 02:15 PM
Nowt official about this yet. Might no happen.

supermcginn
22-01-2020, 02:19 PM
Nowt official about this yet. Might no happen.
He's defo away, probably playing for them tonight.

GloryGlory
22-01-2020, 02:23 PM
He's defo away, probably playing for them tonight.

He'll need to get a move on if he is to get to Dingwall for KO. :greengrin

Oscar T Grouch
22-01-2020, 02:28 PM
He's defo away, probably playing for them tonight.

It would be very strange if Oli plays for them when there’s been nothing from Hibs saying he’s left.

Ozyhibby
22-01-2020, 02:28 PM
Paul Wright then Paul Hartley are the last 2 I can think of.

Other decent players that have left (eg. Brown) we didn't really have much choice.

Not yesterday then.[emoji23]


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erin go bragh
22-01-2020, 02:29 PM
Best of luck to the boy . Hope he scores a couple tonight. I blame PH for stalling the laddies career. Never started him once and stopped him from going on loan down south . There’s definitely a player in him .

greenlex
22-01-2020, 02:29 PM
When given his chance last season how many times did he destroy our counter attacks and fluff reasonably easy chances? He has talent but at 21 he should be further along in his development. A lot like Sam Stanton and Callum Booth. I think Murray will be next to leave. Shaw and Murray have stalled. Hopefully both go to have decent careers but I dont see it at Hibs.
You tell me how many times. I’ll bet it’s no more or less than most top strikers.

pacoluna
22-01-2020, 02:32 PM
Will end up like Ross Caldwell.

mentalhibee
22-01-2020, 02:33 PM
Will end up like Ross Caldwell.

He’s a lot better than Caldwell. Hope he has a good career.

hibbyfraelibby
22-01-2020, 02:33 PM
He'll need to get a move on if he is to get to Dingwall for KO. :greengrin

Not if he already up there...

greenlex
22-01-2020, 02:34 PM
Will end up like Ross Caldwell.

Based on what exactly?

hibbysam
22-01-2020, 02:36 PM
Aye for the first 3 weeks he did. After that he was far from prolific

He scored 8 in 17 compared to Shaw’s 7 in 35 last season, or 12 in 65 overall, while bringing far more to our side than Shaw does.

sean04
22-01-2020, 02:36 PM
Always want our young players to come through and do well. Certainly not a bad player but not good enough for where we should be. Good finisher but all round game not great. Good luck to the lad

Shrekko
22-01-2020, 02:40 PM
Will end up like Ross Caldwell.

No chance whatsoever.

supermcginn
22-01-2020, 02:42 PM
Will end up like Ross Caldwell.
agreed.

we are hibs
22-01-2020, 02:44 PM
It would be very strange if Oli plays for them when there’s been nothing from Hibs saying he’s left.

Hes got until 6:30 to be registered to be able to play tonight according to the jambo stv journo.

Centre Hawf
22-01-2020, 02:47 PM
Personally quite gutted to see Shaw go, but he wasn't getting a look in for a while now.

When he first came into the team he looked like he had all the attributes to make it (I don't subscribe to players NEEDING to bulk up etc). He was also a breath of fresh air in the squad back when we first got promoted and the writing was on the wall for Stokes and Simon Murray and we hadn't brought in Flo or Maclaren yet.

Even going back to the start of last season when him and Boyle started up top with each other while Flo and Maclaren were getting fit he worked well with him and chipped in with a few good goals.

Good luck Oli and grab a few goals tonight son :thumbsup:

Greencore
22-01-2020, 02:54 PM
I don't understand why we haven't sent him out on loan, experience in the lower end of the league or championship would do him well. Strange one by hibs, yes he hasn't been getting a look in, however he has done pretty well for the junior hibs side(s) if he leaves good luck to him and hope we have a sell on fee for him.

CMurdoch
22-01-2020, 03:00 PM
I think this is a mistake, he should be loaned to a team like Ross County. None of us know how good the boy actually is due to the lack of game time he’s had recently. A loan deal to another premiership team would’ve told us everything we needed to know about him. I hope this story isn’t true.

I'm with you on all that.
For me a loan to St Johnstone, where there are currently no decent strikers, would have been perfect and told us all we needed to know.

MWHIBBIES
22-01-2020, 03:01 PM
He scored 8 in 17 compared to Shaw’s 7 in 35 last season, or 12 in 65 overall, while bringing far more to our side than Shaw does.

Look at the minutes, not appearances. Very little in it.

HFC93
22-01-2020, 03:01 PM
Good luck to Oli. Definitely a good move for him and an opportunity to progress. Disappointed but not surprised by some of the negative comments aimed at the guy on social media and on here. I think he might go on and surprise a few folk who are slating him.

MWHIBBIES
22-01-2020, 03:01 PM
Will end up like Ross Caldwell.

Already achieved more than Caldwell ever will. Daft thing to say really.

Bangkok Hibby
22-01-2020, 03:04 PM
Best of luck Oli.

Since when did Ross County have a six-figure sum to spend?

I suppose when the millionaire owner says they do :dunno:

easty
22-01-2020, 03:04 PM
He scored 8 in 17 compared to Shaw’s 7 in 35 last season, or 12 in 65 overall, while bringing far more to our side than Shaw does.

I'll not argue with that, but McNulty scored 2 in his final 11 games for us. You said he was prolific, I disagree.

Peevemor
22-01-2020, 03:09 PM
For everyone who's saying that this is a mistake (if it happens).

Maybe JR, Graeme Mathie et al, ie. those that work with Shaw day in day out, have decided that he simply doesn't have what it takes to meet Hibs ambitions.

Maybe they've decided that with a bit of cash from County and the freed-up wage we can do better. They may even have someone in mind.

There's really no room for sentiment when we're speaking about tens of thousands of pounds.

NorthNorfolkHFC
22-01-2020, 03:18 PM
Maybe they’ve looked at Gullan and thought he’s their prospect who has proved at senior level.

Got to be ruthless and Shaw just hasn’t set the heather alight and is no longer a youth.


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Sammy7nil
22-01-2020, 03:19 PM
He’s a lot better than Caldwell. Hope he has a good career.

Seconded good luck Oli I wish you all the best.

Waxy
22-01-2020, 03:20 PM
He’ll probably score tonight.It’s a striker/debut thing.

confused
22-01-2020, 03:27 PM
He has done the correct thing , once you leave Hibs you become a good player according to the fans , it’s only when you actually play for us that the fans think you can’t cut the mustard , only a select few get Humpty Dumpty status,

RoYO!
22-01-2020, 03:31 PM
A lot of people saying he never got a fair crack- in my eyes he had plenty of chances. Never really made the most of it. Good luck to him.

Captain Trips
22-01-2020, 03:33 PM
For everyone who's saying that this is a mistake (if it happens).

Maybe JR, Graeme Mathie et al, ie. those that work with Shaw day in day out, have decided that he simply doesn't have what it takes to meet Hibs ambitions.

Maybe they've decided that with a bit of cash from County and the freed-up wage we can do better. They may even have someone in mind.

There's really no room for sentiment when we're speaking about tens of thousands of pounds.

Indeed

The reason not a loan is JR has I would like to think identified a player to come in and a loan doesnt cover the costs. I will assume after watching him play and assessing everything JR has in his mind a better option. Well I bloody hope he does.

Barman Stanton
22-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Indeed

The reason not a loan is JR has I would like to think identified a player to come in and a loan doesnt cover the costs. I will assume after watching him play and assessing everything JR has in his mind a better option. Well I bloody hope he does.

Im wondering if this is whats holding it up. Perhaps we need to get our target signed before allowing Shaw to leave.

Captain Trips
22-01-2020, 03:36 PM
Im wondering if this is whats holding it up. Perhaps we need to get our target signed before allowing Shaw to leave.

Its got to be but I one for playing Boyle as striker now.

hibbysam
22-01-2020, 03:51 PM
I'll not argue with that, but McNulty scored 2 in his final 11 games for us. You said he was prolific, I disagree.

I never said he was prolific, I said he scored goals on a weekly basis when he came in, which he did, 1 in 2 was his record with us, far higher than Shaw.

Ozyhibby
22-01-2020, 03:52 PM
Already achieved more than Caldwell ever will. Daft thing to say really.

Last minute winner at the PBS? Oli got a bit of work to do yet.[emoji6]


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The Baldmans Comb
22-01-2020, 04:12 PM
I see this written quite a bit about players coming back to haunt us etc. I know there is chance it could happen but i cant really think of anyone we have let go that has come back to haunt us? A lot of young players we have let go, Hibs end up being the biggest team they played for.

As senior players Paul Hartley certainly did and Steven Dobbie didn't but could have though I agree about young players as I can't think of many who get 50 first team games and are then moved on.

Shaw reminds me of Spoony in a player with very good ability but who just can't do it week in week out.

Call it bottle, confidence, determination and that ability to highly focus and turn a bad day into a better day.

Shaw should be able to make a good living from Scottish football over the next 5 years but it could have been better but there is a gene just missing in his make up that will hold him back.

calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 04:15 PM
As senior players Paul Hartley certainly did and Steven Dobbie didn't but could have though I agree about young players as I can't think of many who get 50 first team games and are then moved on.

Shaw reminds me of Spoony in a player with very good ability but who just can't do it week in week out.

Call it bottle, confidence, determination and that ability to highly focus and turn a bad day into a better day.

Shaw should be able to make a good living from Scottish football over the next 5 years but it could have been better but there is a gene just missing in his make up that will hold him back.

If Shaw had Cummings arrogance, self belief and swagger he’d be a much much better player.

easty
22-01-2020, 04:16 PM
I never said he was prolific, I said he scored goals on a weekly basis when he came in, which he did, 1 in 2 was his record with us, far higher than Shaw.

He didn't score on a weekly basis. For the whole of March, April and May, he scored twice. Not even scoring on a monthly basis.

Wilson
22-01-2020, 04:17 PM
He has done the correct thing , once you leave Hibs you become a good player according to the fans , it’s only when you actually play for us that the fans think you can’t cut the mustard , only a select few get Humpty Dumpty status,

Perhaps people's faith in him is somewhat validated by the fact that an SPFL rival is willing to invest a six figure fee on him?

Heisenberg
22-01-2020, 04:22 PM
Brian Graham going to Partick which I’m guessing means this is happening.

hibbysam
22-01-2020, 04:24 PM
He didn't score on a weekly basis. For the whole of March, April and May, he scored twice. Not even scoring on a monthly basis.

He scored 6 in his first 5 games with 2 assists thereafter, which catapulted us into the top 6, hence the ‘when he came in’ comment. There’s a reason he was in the team in front of Shaw. I’m happy to look at the bigger picture as to why he, and the team as a whole, barely scored after the split, as our manager completely wrote those games off and couldn’t give a hoot about them.

Billy Whizz
22-01-2020, 04:24 PM
Brian Graham going to Partick which I’m guessing means this is happening.

Been rumoured for a wee while this. County other striker is out for a bit
Can’t understand why this isn’t a loan, unless Oli has said he wants out

Wilson
22-01-2020, 04:25 PM
As senior players Paul Hartley certainly did and Steven Dobbie didn't but could have though I agree about young players as I can't think of many who get 50 first team games and are then moved on.

Shaw reminds me of Spoony in a player with very good ability but who just can't do it week in week out.

Call it bottle, confidence, determination and that ability to highly focus and turn a bad day into a better day.

Shaw should be able to make a good living from Scottish football over the next 5 years but it could have been better but there is a gene just missing in his make up that will hold him back.

Interesting. What's your thoughts on Lewis Stevenson as a comparison? Humble. Self deprecating. All round nice guy. Nothing about him screams arrogant, gallus, winner yet there he is - club legend and winner of the league cup and the Scottish cup.

I'm guessing that despite his outward manner he secretly has ice running through his veins.

HoboHarry
22-01-2020, 04:25 PM
Perhaps people's faith in him is somewhat validated by the fact that an SPFL rival is willing to invest a six figure fee on him?
I'll bet you a $100 bottle of wine that Ross County aren't shelling out 100,000 for one player........

Billy Whizz
22-01-2020, 04:25 PM
Interesting. What's your thoughts on Lewis Stevenson as a comparison? Humble. Self deprecating. All round nice guy. Nothing about him screams arrogant, gallus, winner yet there he is - club legend and winner of the league cup and the Scottish cup.

I'm guessing that despite his outward manner he secretly has ice running through his veins.

Lewis is a winner, just need to watch him play

easty
22-01-2020, 04:27 PM
I'll bet you a $100 bottle of wine that Ross County aren't shelling out 100,000 for one player........

I'll bet you a £1 bag of haribo that you won't be giving Wilson a $100 bottle of wine...

Wilson
22-01-2020, 04:27 PM
Lewis is a winner, just need to watch him play

Seen him. Benji was my man if the match in the league cup final but other than the I can't fault him.

HoboHarry
22-01-2020, 04:28 PM
I'll bet you a £1 bag of haribo that you won't be giving Wilson a $100 bottle of wine...
:greengrin

J-C
22-01-2020, 04:28 PM
Interesting. What's your thoughts on Lewis Stevenson as a comparison? Humble. Self deprecating. All round nice guy. Nothing about him screams arrogant, gallus, winner yet there he is - club legend and winner of the league cup and the Scottish cup.

I'm guessing that despite his outward manner he secretly has ice running through his veins.

Lewis was one of the young guys who loved Collins and realised what he had to do to get to the top, trained hard, lived well here he us.

calumhibee1
22-01-2020, 04:29 PM
Interesting. What's your thoughts on Lewis Stevenson as a comparison? Humble. Self deprecating. All round nice guy. Nothing about him screams arrogant, gallus, winner yet there he is - club legend and winner of the league cup and the Scottish cup.

I'm guessing that despite his outward manner he secretly has ice running through his veins.

Lewis is an absolute warrior. Shaw, like Stanton, Harris etc just seems to nice for want of a better way to describe it.

Wilson
22-01-2020, 04:30 PM
Lewis was one of the young guys who loved Collins and realised what he had to do to get to the top, trained hard, lived well here he us.

Won't believe it until he shows of his six pack when he's 50 :wink:

Hibeesmad
22-01-2020, 04:31 PM
Won't believe it until he shows of his six pack when he's 50 :wink:

He will still be playing left back for us at 50 so it's a possibility 😁

KingPat4
22-01-2020, 04:35 PM
No mention of Shaw on BBC Scotland footie website in the match preview.

Has the transfer bern confirmed anywhere?

The Baldmans Comb
22-01-2020, 04:39 PM
Interesting. What's your thoughts on Lewis Stevenson as a comparison? Humble. Self deprecating. All round nice guy. Nothing about him screams arrogant, gallus, winner yet there he is - club legend and winner of the league cup and the Scottish cup.

I'm guessing that despite his outward manner he secretly has ice running through his veins.

Lewis is just better in his position than Shaw is at his is obviously the main reason.

However to answer your question if you look at Stevenson very carefully during games he hurts and really hurts if he makes a mistake or feels like he has been treated badly by the referee.

His immediate reaction to any mistake on his part is to become even more focused and determined.

Shaw (Or Spoony) didn't have that in their make up as their confidence would go and their focus was detatched.

It doesn't make them bad players as neither are.

Spoony is an Internationalist of course and they will always play at a very good level but through no fault of their own it could have been better.

EdinMike
22-01-2020, 04:43 PM
Meh... sums it up for me.

MWHIBBIES
22-01-2020, 04:44 PM
Maybe they’ve looked at Gullan and thought he’s their prospect who has proved at senior level.

Got to be ruthless and Shaw just hasn’t set the heather alight and is no longer a youth.


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Shaw has shown much more than Gullan though. I guess training could be the difference but at first team level Shaw has proved much more.

sean04
22-01-2020, 04:46 PM
Ross county confirm transfer

ABZHFC
22-01-2020, 04:47 PM
*Comunicado oficial*

Scooter
22-01-2020, 04:47 PM
Gone

04Sauzee
22-01-2020, 04:47 PM
Offishul

Wilson
22-01-2020, 04:47 PM
Lewis is just better in his position than Shaw is at his is obviously the main reason.

However to answer your question if you look at Stevenson very carefully during games he hurts and really hurts if he makes a mistake or feels like he has been treated badly by the referee.

His immediate reaction to any mistake on his part is to become even more focused and determined.

Shaw (Or Spoony) didn't have that in their make up as their confidence would go and their focus was detatched.

It doesn't make them bad players as neither are.

Spoony is an Internationalist of course and they will always play at a very good level but through no fault of their own it could have been better.

Cool.

I think a move will be the making of Shaw and maybe a loan wouldn't have been enough of a culture shock. Here's hoping.

The 90+2
22-01-2020, 04:47 PM
Good luck Oli. Big move for him.

MyJo
22-01-2020, 04:52 PM
Sell on fee included in the deal which might come in handy if he does well.

Good luck to him, hope it works out for the best.

weecounty hibby
22-01-2020, 04:55 PM
Hayrick tonight if he plays would be a good start. Best of luck to him, especially this evening

Dashing Bob S
22-01-2020, 05:05 PM
Torn here. If he does well we will look silly.

Wilson
22-01-2020, 05:08 PM
Torn here. If he does well we will look silly.

Only if we sign a duff striker as a replacement. Let's hope we don't do that!

Aldo
22-01-2020, 05:20 PM
Only if we sign a duff striker as a replacement. Let's hope we don't do that!

I’m hoping we use the money to get Nisbet from the pars


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Eyrie
22-01-2020, 06:42 PM
Good luck to Shaw. I'd have preferred that this was a loan deal and don't believe for one minute that Ross County have paid us six figures for him.

Greencore
22-01-2020, 06:44 PM
Good luck to Shaw. I'd have preferred that this was a loan deal and don't believe for one minute that Ross County have paid us six figures for him.

It will be 100k 😂

Interesting on transfermarket website he is worth around 400 k...

I believe hearts would be entitled to a piece of the fee.

Edit, he's actually worth 450 k on transfermarket...

Weegreenman
22-01-2020, 06:46 PM
Another one who’ll no doubt come good and probably come back to haunt us.

Surely we must be on the verge of bringing a replacement in you’d have thought ?

Lancs Harp
22-01-2020, 06:52 PM
Wish the lad well but i think its a good move for all involved. He's decent and still young but personally never saw him as our number one or number two striker. I think the move will do him good he'd reached a plateau with us. Scored some good goals for us so thanks for that fella. A hopefully he'll kick on thought he was a bit light weight myself. As I said good luck to the fella.