Climate conference Glasgow 2020.

[Moulin Yarns]

So the cost of the policing the conference will be £200million minimum. And police Scotland are being expected to carry the costs, yet the UK is the host 'nation'.

Discuss.

[Cataplana]

So the cost of the policing the conference will be £200million minimum. And police Scotland are being expected to carry the costs, yet the UK is the host 'nation'.

Discuss.

I suppose the first question is, "who carries the cost of events like presidential visits to London?"

[Moulin Yarns]

I suppose the first question is, "who carries the cost of events like presidential visits to London?"

So, who does?

And who carries the cost of HS2? Or Crossrail?

[Cataplana]

So, who does?

I don't know, I thought it might be a good start to the discussion. If other cities have to bear the cost of policing similar events, it seems less of an injustice than if they don't.

[Moulin Yarns]

I don't know, I thought it might be a good start to the discussion. If other cities have to bear the cost of policing similar events, it seems less of an injustice than if they don't.

Cities, or host Nations.

[Just Alf]

So, who does?

And who carries the cost of HS2? Or Crossrail?Hs2 & Crossrail are paid at a UK gov level so from a Scottish perspective we pay 9-10% of the respective totals. (this is why the Scottish 'deficit' argument is a red herring)

Policing for this sort of thing is paid at a regional level so in this case police Scotland foots the bill but can ask for additional Scottish government funding. The Scottish government in turn could ask for financial support from UKGov for UK events. I remember there was a bit of a kerfuffle when Trump was here as police Scotland had increased policing costs with no additional financial support (not sure if it was eventually forthcoming)



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[Cataplana]

Cities, or host Nations.

Whoever is the host, I would think. My opinion would still be based on how other cities, or nations fund the policing.

[lapsedhibee]

So the cost of the policing the conference will be £200million minimum. And police Scotland are being expected to carry the costs, yet the UK is the host 'nation'.

Discuss.

Most of that total will be anti-terrorism policing - confiscating Extinction Rebellion's placards and that.

[Ozyhibby]

The event will bring a lot more than £200m to the Scottish Economy so should still be worthwhile.


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[Cataplana]

The event will bring a lot more than £200m to the Scottish Economy so should still be worthwhile.


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I've always wondered how they calculate these figures. What is the source, Underbelly?

[Colr]

So the cost of the policing the conference will be £200million minimum. And police Scotland are being expected to carry the costs, yet the UK is the host 'nation'.

Discuss.

That’s crazy. When I was involved in building in the Weeg we used to employ the biggest hoodlum in the neighbourhood on the security. He would go round and threaten to kneecap the lesser hoods if anything on the site went missing. Result, no thefts.

They should try that.

I’ve been told things work the same way in Liverpool.

[Colr]

Hs2 & Crossrail are paid at a UK gov level so from a Scottish perspective we pay 9-10% of the respective totals. (this is why the Scottish 'deficit' argument is a red herring)

Policing for this sort of thing is paid at a regional level so in this case police Scotland foots the bill but can ask for additional Scottish government funding. The Scottish government in turn could ask for financial support from UKGov for UK events. I remember there was a bit of a kerfuffle when Trump was here as police Scotland had increased policing costs with no additional financial support (not sure if it was eventually forthcoming)



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Nice try

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/blog.ons.gov.uk/2017/06/12/the-wealth-of-regions-measuring-the-uks-tax-and-spending-imbalance/amp/

[RyeSloan]

So the cost of the policing the conference will be £200million minimum. And police Scotland are being expected to carry the costs, yet the UK is the host 'nation'.

Discuss.

The UK government has already committed to covering the policing costs.

[Just Alf]

Nice try

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/blog.ons.gov.uk/2017/06/12/the-wealth-of-regions-measuring-the-uks-tax-and-spending-imbalance/amp/That's actually a good read, doesn't detract from what I've said as what I've posted reflects the current methodology, that said, it's this sort of information that will really help build a proper dialogue around the finances across the UK.

Oh.. And I'm claiming a draw as it does infer that trident, embassies, the royals etc are "the common good" so are indeed shared and so part of the deficit (assuming we don't have enough tax receipts to pay all 'our' share) :greengrin

PS. The financial argument for HS2 is largely based on "common good" as it will reduce journey times London to/from Edinburgh & Glasgow and other northern cities so maybe that will be included also in the 'common good' costs.



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[brianmc]

Surely if the people attending/speaking at this conference were that concerned about climate change they could all take part via video link rather than flying in from all over the world???

[Just Alf]

Surely if the people attending/speaking at this conference were that concerned about climate change they could all take part via video link rather than flying in from all over the world???Ha ha, that crossed my mind as well!

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[CloudSquall]

Surely if the people attending/speaking at this conference were that concerned about climate change they could all take part via video link rather than flying in from all over the world???

Related to this Ricky Gervais nailed Hollywood for this in his recent speech at the Golden Globes, essentially telling them they had no right to be going on about Climate Change action when they are flying in on private jets and rocking up to the event in a limo each.

[degenerated]

So the cost of the policing the conference will be £200million minimum. And police Scotland are being expected to carry the costs, yet the UK is the host 'nation'.

Discuss.And the elected leader of the country thats picking up the tab has been told she's not welcome

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17935380.boris-johnson-wants-union-flag-not-nicola-sturgeon-climate-summit/

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[Killiehibbie]

And the elected leader of the country thats picking up the tab has been told she's not welcome

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17935380.boris-johnson-wants-union-flag-not-nicola-sturgeon-climate-summit/

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It will take place in Glasgow in December 2020

The Herald might notice it getting busier a bit earlier than that.