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Keith_M
11-01-2020, 04:25 PM
...for league games so far this season.


Celtc have the highest
The Rangers are in second place.

I wonder who's third, Hearts or Hibs?

:hmmm:


Find out HERE (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-or-hibs-which-team-has-higher-average-attendance-and-how-does-it-compare-ladbrokes-premiership-rivals-1361345?page=3)

Since90+2
11-01-2020, 04:26 PM
...for league games so far this season.


Celtc have the highest
The Rangers are in second place.

I wonder who's third, Hearts or Hibs?

:hmmm:


Find out HERE (https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-or-hibs-which-team-has-higher-average-attendance-and-how-does-it-compare-ladbrokes-premiership-rivals-1361345?page=3)

Must be Hearts. They are absolutely miles bigger than us so there's no way we could have a bigger average attendance.

Keith_M
11-01-2020, 04:33 PM
Must be Hearts. They are absolutely miles bigger than us so there's no way we could have a bigger average attendance.


That's the message I've been getting the last few years.

They're the BIG team and we're the wee team

Iggy Pope
11-01-2020, 04:36 PM
We really, really need the football back.

Keith_M
11-01-2020, 04:39 PM
We really, really need the football back.


We're BORED!



:greengrin

GloryGlory
11-01-2020, 04:41 PM
Isn't the fact that their 2018-19 figure is only slightly higher than Hibs down to playing a few games at Murrayfield whilst their supermega, eighth wonder of the world stand was being built? :greengrin

Weegreenman
11-01-2020, 04:41 PM
HEARTS by miles I’d expect, no point in even opening the link to find out.

Massive club ☺️

Deansy
11-01-2020, 04:48 PM
It is strange how threads about attendances 'us v them' seem to have vanished completely from 'Throw-back' - I wonder why ?

Weegreenman
11-01-2020, 04:55 PM
It is strange how threads about attendances 'us v them' seem to have vanished completely from 'Throw-back' - I wonder why ?

Empty seats were another big debate over on Kick back, oh how the hens have come home to roost. Roasters!

Chuck Rhoades
11-01-2020, 05:12 PM
I’m more interested in our own average being ~900 down season on season so far and the loss of income that’ll lead to than bothering a jot about the irrelevant neighbours..

brianmc
11-01-2020, 05:22 PM
I’m more interested in our own average being ~900 down season on season so far and the loss of income that’ll lead to than bothering a jot about the irrelevant neighbours..

Without going through all the fixtures - isn't this more likely due to the number of home games v the bigger teams?

lord bunberry
11-01-2020, 05:40 PM
It just goes to show that having that big away end at Livingston is helping boost their averages. They benefit from 4 teams bringing big away supports. Without that their averages would be the lowest in the league.

Keith_M
11-01-2020, 05:46 PM
I’m more interested in our own average being ~900 down season on season so far and the loss of income that’ll lead to than bothering a jot about the irrelevant neighbours..


I think that's understandable and down to the last one and a half seasons of mediocrity.

Sometimes you've just got to get your kicks where you can find them, no matter how petty. If that's through reminding your self important neighbours that they're not as massive or great as they've been claiming, then so be it.




Without going through all the fixtures - isn't this more likely due to the number of home games v the bigger teams?

No, we've both played Celtc, The Rangers, Aberdeen and each other at home.

wallpaperman
11-01-2020, 06:05 PM
Isn't the fact that their 2018-19 figure is only slightly higher than Hibs down to playing a few games at Murrayfield whilst their supermega, eighth wonder of the world stand was being built? :greengrin

You’re thinking about the start of the 2017-18 season where they played a few games at Murrayfield including crowds of 24k and 32k against the sheep and hun.

We would comfortably have had a higher average than them that season if those games were at Tynie, and we had a higher average last season in 18/19 as well.

GloryGlory
11-01-2020, 06:12 PM
You’re thinking about the start of the 2017-18 season where they played a few games at Murrayfield including crowds of 24k and 32k against the sheep and hun.

We would comfortably have had a higher average than them that season if those games were at Tynie, and we had a higher average last season in 18/19 as well.

You're right. The build has been going on so long I've lost track of time. :greengrin

CMurdoch
11-01-2020, 08:10 PM
I’m more interested in our own average being ~900 down season on season so far and the loss of income that’ll lead to than bothering a jot about the irrelevant neighbours..

Some interestin' attendance facts which are not from Joe Skeds internet cut and paste in the EEN.

Attendances of both Edinburgh SPFL clubs have dropped by 5% from last season. Interestingly Aberdeen down 7% and the league as a whole down 6%. Ross County replacing Dundee hasn't helped the league figure.

Our numbers have held up pretty well given the last 5 matches from last season and that we knew Hecky would be manager this season. Need a bit of performance improvement in the second half of the season to up the optimism.

Dundee Utd averaging a little under 9,000 this season which will climb to over 10,000 in the SPFL next season. Will give all attendances including our own a wee boost. Will be good for the standing of the Scottish game as well to have 6 well supported teams in the top league again.

Just need to get Dundee, Dunfermline and Falkirk back in the top league after that.
Falkirk playing in the 3rd tier get bigger attendances than 3 clubs currently playing in the top tier.

Livingston St Johnstone and Hamilton to go down a Division.
With average attendances of 3,400 this season, no wonder St Johnstone want old firm fans in their stands.

Is It On....
11-01-2020, 09:15 PM
I’m more interested in our own average being ~900 down season on season so far and the loss of income that’ll lead to than bothering a jot about the irrelevant neighbours..

That's what I was thinking and when you multiply 900 x £29 ticket price, that equals £26k per home game less in gate receipts which will really add up over the season. That said, we stand a much bigger chance of attendances improving with Ross and not Heckingbottom as manager.

CMurdoch
11-01-2020, 11:19 PM
That's what I was thinking and when you multiply 900 x £29 ticket price, that equals £26k per home game less in gate receipts which will really add up over the season. That said, we stand a much bigger chance of attendances improving with Ross and not Heckingbottom as manager.

Maybe cut that to £15k per home game given the missing fans are not all full paying adults

FilipinoHibs
11-01-2020, 11:41 PM
Maybe cut that to £15k per home game given the missing fans are not all full paying adults

But the wages for a year of a couple of good signings.

CMurdoch
12-01-2020, 12:05 AM
But the wages for a year of a couple of good signings.

or just as easily a couple of bad ones.

As I said above our crowds have gone down less this season than our rivals Aberdeen and Hearts.
If only we could get all you Hibees abroad back to Edinburgh we would have our 5% drop replaced.

Springbank
12-01-2020, 05:47 AM
Some interestin' attendance facts which are not from Joe Skeds internet cut and paste in the EEN.

Attendances of both Edinburgh SPFL clubs have dropped by 5% from last season. Interestingly Aberdeen down 7% and the league as a whole down 6%. Ross County replacing Dundee hasn't helped the league figure.

Our numbers have held up pretty well given the last 5 matches from last season and that we knew Hecky would be manager this season. Need a bit of performance improvement in the second half of the season to up the optimism.

Dundee Utd averaging a little under 9,000 this season which will climb to over 10,000 in the SPFL next season. Will give all attendances including our own a wee boost. Will be good for the standing of the Scottish game as well to have 6 well supported teams in the top league again.

Just need to get Dundee, Dunfermline and Falkirk back in the top league after that.
Falkirk playing in the 3rd tier get bigger attendances than 3 clubs currently playing in the top tier.

Livingston St Johnstone and Hamilton to go down a Division.
With average attendances of 3,400 this season, no wonder St Johnstone want old firm fans in their stands.


Scottish football was more fun to watch when Rangers were crap and beatable, is one summary.

The return of the suicidal levels of unsustainable overspend (or "cheating") make the game much less attractive.

Scottish football would improve without them

Keith_M
12-01-2020, 11:17 AM
That's what I was thinking and when you multiply 900 x £29 ticket price, that equals £26k per home game less in gate receipts which will really add up over the season. That said, we stand a much bigger chance of attendances improving with Ross and not Heckingbottom as manager.


I agree with your general point but the average price is probably a bit nearer £15.

Crowds fluctuate and we need to improve our form a bit to encourage higher attendances.

AgentDaleCooper
12-01-2020, 11:50 AM
Will be very amusing if celtic get 10 in a row and the huns' bubble bursts. I loved it when they were crap.

Lendo
12-01-2020, 12:15 PM
Scottish football was more fun to watch when Rangers were crap and beatable, is one summary.

The return of the suicidal levels of unsustainable overspend (or "cheating") make the game much less attractive.

Scottish football would improve without them


Fully confident that the Rangers will bankrupt themselves again doing all they can to stop Celtic. Would probably have happened already had it not been for the two decent European runs.

PatHead
14-01-2020, 08:11 PM
Some interestin' attendance facts which are not from Joe Skeds internet cut and paste in the EEN.

Attendances of both Edinburgh SPFL clubs have dropped by 5% from last season. Interestingly Aberdeen down 7% and the league as a whole down 6%. Ross County replacing Dundee hasn't helped the league figure.

Our numbers have held up pretty well given the last 5 matches from last season and that we knew Hecky would be manager this season. Need a bit of performance improvement in the second half of the season to up the optimism.

Dundee Utd averaging a little under 9,000 this season which will climb to over 10,000 in the SPFL next season. Will give all attendances including our own a wee boost. Will be good for the standing of the Scottish game as well to have 6 well supported teams in the top league again.

Just need to get Dundee, Dunfermline and Falkirk back in the top league after that.
Falkirk playing in the 3rd tier get bigger attendances than 3 clubs currently playing in the top tier.

Livingston St Johnstone and Hamilton to go down a Division.
With average attendances of 3,400 this season, no wonder St Johnstone want old firm fans in their stands.

We will lose a couple of derbies though when Hearts get relegated.

CMurdoch
14-01-2020, 08:25 PM
We will lose a couple of derbies though when Hearts get relegated.

Will definitely miss one this season fortunately it's the one at their place

jacomo
14-01-2020, 09:31 PM
Some interestin' attendance facts which are not from Joe Skeds internet cut and paste in the EEN.

Attendances of both Edinburgh SPFL clubs have dropped by 5% from last season. Interestingly Aberdeen down 7% and the league as a whole down 6%. Ross County replacing Dundee hasn't helped the league figure.

Our numbers have held up pretty well given the last 5 matches from last season and that we knew Hecky would be manager this season. Need a bit of performance improvement in the second half of the season to up the optimism.

Dundee Utd averaging a little under 9,000 this season which will climb to over 10,000 in the SPFL next season. Will give all attendances including our own a wee boost. Will be good for the standing of the Scottish game as well to have 6 well supported teams in the top league again.

Just need to get Dundee, Dunfermline and Falkirk back in the top league after that.
Falkirk playing in the 3rd tier get bigger attendances than 3 clubs currently playing in the top tier.

Livingston St Johnstone and Hamilton to go down a Division.
With average attendances of 3,400 this season, no wonder St Johnstone want old firm fans in their stands.


Average gate at Tannadice was way below 10k last time they were in the top league. Let’s hope they continue their enthusiasm this time.

Not surprising our average is down a little. A significant number were never taken by Hecky, and Ron hasn’t really done anything to enthuse fans and get them to buy into a new vision for the club. JR isn’t long in the door and hasn’t been able to make any signings yet.

2020 should be a big year for us. Let’s hope so!

CMurdoch
14-01-2020, 10:45 PM
Average gate at Tannadice was way below 10k last time they were in the top league. Let’s hope they continue their enthusiasm this time.

Not surprising our average is down a little. A significant number were never taken by Hecky, and Ron hasn’t really done anything to enthuse fans and get them to buy into a new vision for the club. JR isn’t long in the door and hasn’t been able to make any signings yet.

2020 should be a big year for us. Let’s hope so!

Hecky set us back a couple of years and his signing decisions will probably affect us negatively for another season and a half.
Getting the wrong manager is an expensive mistake.
I think Ross has his head screwed on and will improve us year on year. Season 2021/22 will be a good one.

Anthony Soprano
15-01-2020, 09:26 AM
Some interestin' attendance facts which are not from Joe Skeds internet cut and paste in the EEN.

Attendances of both Edinburgh SPFL clubs have dropped by 5% from last season. Interestingly Aberdeen down 7% and the league as a whole down 6%. Ross County replacing Dundee hasn't helped the league figure.

Our numbers have held up pretty well given the last 5 matches from last season and that we knew Hecky would be manager this season. Need a bit of performance improvement in the second half of the season to up the optimism.

Dundee Utd averaging a little under 9,000 this season which will climb to over 10,000 in the SPFL next season. Will give all attendances including our own a wee boost. Will be good for the standing of the Scottish game as well to have 6 well supported teams in the top league again.

Just need to get Dundee, Dunfermline and Falkirk back in the top league after that.
Falkirk playing in the 3rd tier get bigger attendances than 3 clubs currently playing in the top tier.

Livingston St Johnstone and Hamilton to go down a Division.
With average attendances of 3,400 this season, no wonder St Johnstone want old firm fans in their stands.

Nah not for me, let falkirk rot in the lower leagues and fade into obscurity, horrible wee club

Renfrew_Hibby
15-01-2020, 11:38 AM
Nah not for me, let falkirk rot in the lower leagues and fade into obscurity, horrible wee club

Yip, hate Falkirk with a passion. Clubs are in the top flight on merit and sure wouldn't it be great if all the best supported sides were in the top flight but really an extra couple of thousand here and there wont change anything.

DH1875
15-01-2020, 12:45 PM
Will Utd average over 10k next season? I'm not so sure.

Since452
15-01-2020, 12:47 PM
Will Utd average over 10k next season? I'm not so sure.

Not a chance. I don't think they have in my lifetime

Since452
15-01-2020, 01:05 PM
Not a chance. I don't think they have in my lifetime

Actually just checked. Exaggerating a bit. They averaged over 10k in 2014/15 but that's the only time in the last 21 years they've averaged 10k or more. They did it regularly before that

SJNB Hibby
15-01-2020, 03:26 PM
Actually just checked. Exaggerating a bit. They averaged over 10k in 2014/15 but that's the only time in the last 21 years they've averaged 10k or more. They did it regularly before that

Might depend on if Dundee are there as well
2 home games each against them and the OF at 14000 per,
And theyd do it easy i reckon
Us the yams and the dons would bring big travelling support
Course we're now up to 7 in the top 6 but you get my drift

MWHIBBIES
15-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Fully confident that the Rangers will bankrupt themselves again doing all they can to stop Celtic. Would probably have happened already had it not been for the two decent European runs.

You're going to be extremely disappointed. Not happening.