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The 90+2
08-01-2020, 01:12 PM
It depends who else we sign instead, I suppose.

There's a whole world of footballers out there, Dylan's one we know but there are plenty others and dare I say plenty better players that fit closer to what we need at the moment.

I'm a huge fan of Dylan's, I'd have loved to have seen him come back and am gutted to see him sign for Aberdeen, but ultimately Jack Ross will live or die on his signings, and he knows much better than I do exactly what he's getting from Dylan, so if he's considered it and decided against it, then you have to think he's confident that's the right decision.

There's not a manager in football who would purposely pass on a player that could keep them in a job. If Ross thought he was essential,he'd be a Hibs player.

True. Let’s just trust Ross on this then, still sticks in the craw.

Gypsy King
08-01-2020, 01:16 PM
Not good letting a player like that head up north if we could have brought him in, this "best of the rest" stuff means we have to compete for players that will make us so. Dylan and Efe would appease the fans and more importantly - improve us. This stinks of penny pinching to me.

Lago
08-01-2020, 01:18 PM
I dont think he ever bought into Hibs in the way Gray, McGinn etc did, it seems he was just an employee doing his job, I never felt a connection with him.
My thoughts exactly.

Keith_M
08-01-2020, 01:21 PM
Not good letting a player like that head up north if we could have brought him in, this "best of the rest" stuff means we have to compete for players that will make us so. Dylan and Efe would appease the fans and more importantly - improve us. This stinks of penny pinching to me.


Did Dylan speak to Hibs, ask for a certain amount of money and Hibs refused?

If not, I can't see where the penny pinching comes in.

Peevemor
08-01-2020, 01:21 PM
Not good letting a player like that head up north if we could have brought him in, this "best of the rest" stuff means we have to compete for players that will make us so. Dylan and Efe would appease the fans and more importantly - improve us. This stinks of penny pinching to me.

Unless the manager didn't want him (as explained previously).

Cataplana
08-01-2020, 01:25 PM
Did Dylan speak to Hibs, ask for a certain amount of money and Hibs refused?

If not, I can't see where the penny pinching comes in.

More likely that the boss knows that Dylan's injuries require a lot of work. Lennon suggested a lot of the problem was in the boy's head.

Gypsy King
08-01-2020, 01:30 PM
Did Dylan speak to Hibs, ask for a certain amount of money and Hibs refused?

If not, I can't see where the penny pinching comes in.

If we genuinely weren't interested as people have guessed on here we weren't then fair enough.

I'm highly sceptical Ross hasn't identified a player who would certainly improve us, that he has worked with before and said no thanks.

Peevemor
08-01-2020, 01:33 PM
Did Dylan speak to Hibs, ask for a certain amount of money and Hibs refused?

If not, I can't see where the penny pinching comes in.

Unless you just want to moan in every single post you make... (all whilst remaining "loyal of course).

Betty Boop
08-01-2020, 01:34 PM
More likely that the boss knows that Dylan's injuries require a lot of work. Lennon suggested a lot of the problem was in the boy's head.

Since when was Lennon qualified as a psychiatrist ?

superfurryhibby
08-01-2020, 01:37 PM
Since when was Lennon qualified as a psychiatrist ?

Around the same time as all of us here became professional footballers?

Gypsy King
08-01-2020, 01:38 PM
Unless you just want to moan in every single post you make... (all whilst remaining "loyal of course).

Home and away regardless of who we sign. Just disappointed we didn't show the ambition to bring back a cup winning legend who would absolutely improve our squad

Cataplana
08-01-2020, 01:43 PM
Since when was Lennon qualified as a psychiatrist ?

Part of a manager's job is to assess how players attitude is affecting their performance. It's a bit extreme to suggest that only psychiatrists would be able to spot when a good kick up the arse is what a player needs.

I'd suggest that Lennon got reports from physios, and possibly the doctor, that suggested that Dylan was making more of his injuries than the physical tests showed.

J-C
08-01-2020, 01:43 PM
How would it be unbalanced if Dylan has played, successfully as a holding midfielder many times before?

There's two types of holding midfielder, strong tackling ones and clever quarterback style ones, Dylan is the latter. We had McGinn and Bartley previously who were happy to do the dirty stuff which allowed Dylan and Allan to do their bit. At this moment we need and hard tackling DM to allow Allan, Hallberg and Mallan to do their bit.

Salt N Sauzee
08-01-2020, 02:12 PM
look forward to boo-ing his every touch at ER

davhibby
08-01-2020, 02:17 PM
How would it be unbalanced if Dylan has played, successfully as a holding midfielder many times before?

If you think that’s what we need then you’re mental. Hallberg is a very similar player in style and it’s not been working with him there. The only time I can think you can be referring to him playing as a holding mid is when we played 3 at the back and McGinn was alongside him. Very different to now. What we need is someone with the attributes similar to Fyvie when he played at the back of the diamond under Stubbs

bigwheel
08-01-2020, 02:24 PM
If you think that’s what we need then you’re mental. Hallberg is a very similar player in style and it’s not been working with him there. The only time I can think you can be referring to him playing as a holding mid is when we played 3 at the back and McGinn was alongside him. Very different to now. What we need is someone with the attributes similar to Fyvie when he played at the back of the diamond under Stubbs

On a different but related note. Hallberg has been one of our better signings, but imho he is OK..nothing much more...wouldn’t have got a game in the Fyvie, McGinn, Allan and McGeough. Midfield
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Too early to fully judge him, and I believe he is not playing in his natural role - so will be good to see him develop...

BonnieFitbaTeam
08-01-2020, 03:40 PM
Having signed for McInnes' cloggers, chances are he'll be injured in training by one of his team mates so we probably won't see much of him!

FilipinoHibs
08-01-2020, 04:03 PM
How would it be unbalanced if Dylan has played, successfully as a holding midfielder many times before?

Defensive midfielder is different from a holding midfielder.

Alfred E Newman
08-01-2020, 04:12 PM
Too many people are making things up.
Ross has made it quite clear that his priority is a strong defensive midfield player. There is no point blowing a good slice of your budget on more of what you already have.

Just_Jimmy
08-01-2020, 04:14 PM
Too many people are making things up.
Ross has made it quite clear that his priority is a strong defensive midfield player. There is no point blowing a good slice of your budget on more of what you already have.Unless it's significantly better than what you already have, and letting it go to a rival improves them further.

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jacomo
08-01-2020, 04:21 PM
I dont think he ever bought into Hibs in the way Gray, McGinn etc did, it seems he was just an employee doing his job, I never felt a connection with him.


You’re entitled to your opinion of course, but you are just projecting your own feelings onto another individual here.

Max_Shah
08-01-2020, 05:11 PM
Mentioned this on other threads, but we didn't miss out to Aberdeen - Dylan would have signed for Hibs if we'd been interested. Ross told him he wanted a different type of midfielder, and Dylan took Aberdeen's offer after that. He also knocked back Hearts, by the way - they wanted to speak to him but he didn't entertain them.

:top marks

Well said matty_f

We were not interested when his agent was touting him all over Scotland.

This was clearly pointed out many times by others more ITK than I.

"..Teh Budget.." "..Ron Oot.." .."A legend treated poorly.." or my personal favorite: "Hecky and oor budget"

Arguments we shall, no doubt, see rehearsed ad nauseam in varying degrees of lucidity should we dare not sign Sparky or Stokes before the 19th of January. [PETRIE :grr:]

It is really so hard to believe our recruitment team/new gaffer simply said "nah, sorry fam, we require better players/different positional players" - they are the professionals after all.

Let's give Jack a chance to stamp his authority on the team.


This my friend will come back to bite us on the arse I reckon.

Good Lord... :rolleyes:

CockneyRebel
08-01-2020, 05:13 PM
This my friend will come back to bite us on the arse I reckon.


Too much surmising, speculation and downright porkies going on regarding this player so I don't expect too many ***** to get bitten. The flights of imagination that take place on here are truly astounding.

MWHIBBIES
08-01-2020, 05:17 PM
Mentioned this on other threads, but we didn't miss out to Aberdeen - Dylan would have signed for Hibs if we'd been interested. Ross told him he wanted a different type of midfielder, and Dylan took Aberdeen's offer after that. He also knocked back Hearts, by the way - they wanted to speak to him but he didn't entertain them.

He better hope this different type of midfielder is top class because this is a really big error from Ross imo.

Hecky made the same one and then signed Vela.

CockneyRebel
08-01-2020, 05:20 PM
Too much surmising, speculation and downright porkies going on regarding this player so I don't expect too many ***** to get bitten. The flights of imagination that take place on here are truly astounding.


Admin - why blank out the word that you left uncensored in 90+2's post?

Carheenlea
08-01-2020, 05:29 PM
Admin - why blank out the word that you left uncensored in 90+2's post?


Sure the filter is automated. Arse is OK but ***** not.

jeffers
08-01-2020, 05:29 PM
He better hope this different type of midfielder is top class because this is a really big error from Ross imo.

Hecky made the same one and then signed Vela.

He doesn’t have to be top class, though it would be nice, he needs to be good at the role he’s being asked to do and available for selection the majority of the time. I suspect whoever it is tho they won’t be good enough for some because he isn’t their darling Dylan.

I’ll wait and see how McGeouch does for Aberdeen and how many games he misses through niggling injuries.

Weegreenman
08-01-2020, 05:54 PM
McGeough is class........the Aberdeen manager knows it

Astonishing if our manager wasn't interested in signing him :bitchy:

He often outshone John McGinn in our midfield and our current midfielders (Mallan, Vela, Slivka and Hallberg) couldn't lace McGeough's boots

Farrago :grr:


Spot on.

we are hibs
08-01-2020, 06:43 PM
He doesn’t have to be top class, though it would be nice, he needs to be good at the role he’s being asked to do and available for selection the majority of the time. I suspect whoever it is tho they won’t be good enough for some because he isn’t their darling Dylan.

I’ll wait and see how McGeouch does for Aberdeen and how many games he misses through niggling injuries.


Clear from your posts you have a real bizarre dislike of mcgeouch.

SquashedFrogg
08-01-2020, 06:56 PM
He better hope this different type of midfielder is top class because this is a really big error from Ross imo.

Hecky made the same one and then signed Vela.

Wow. Panic alert code red.

IMO.

jeffers
08-01-2020, 07:07 PM
Clear from your posts you have a real bizarre dislike of mcgeouch.

I don’t actually, have posted a number of times I think he is a talented footballer. However I’ve never understood the adulation he gets and felt his actual contribution was overrated by many.

Pretty Boy
08-01-2020, 07:17 PM
I don’t actually, have posted a number of times I think he is a talented footballer. However I’ve never understood the adulation he gets and felt his actual contribution was overrated by many.

Including our players of the time who voted him their player of the year ahead of McGinn, Allan et al.

500miles
08-01-2020, 07:22 PM
When Allan and McGeough were at the heart of our midfield we played some great football some weeks. We were often very soft the next.

Mcgeouch is a teams brain, but we lack spine.

KingPat4
08-01-2020, 07:27 PM
I'll trust JR on this one.

He must know the player well. Probably not what we need right now and injury prone. Never really cut it on Wearside. Besides the guy that went to Aberdeen from S****horpe that we wanted hasn't exactly set the heather on fire either.

I'd rather have Marvin back. Bung Livi £50k. He's more of what we need right now.

jeffers
08-01-2020, 07:28 PM
Including our players of the time who voted him their player of the year ahead of McGinn, Allan et al.

And Stevie Mallan won it last season.....

O'Rourke3
08-01-2020, 08:23 PM
He better hope this different type of midfielder is top class because this is a really big error from Ross imo.

Hecky made the same one and then signed Vela.I may be wrong but I dont think we were out bid. We had an offer accepted and then the club who released him found they hadn't, as his contract ran longer than end May. Ojo then got in a dispute with them. When he was freed, suddenly there was interest from Aberdeen who was then in a position to ask how much Hibs had offered him and then beat it. Having agreed a contract with the player he then chose not to honour it. In my book not a bidding war. I hope his run of poor form and injury continues, that would be karma.

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MWHIBBIES
08-01-2020, 08:33 PM
Wow. Panic alert code red.

IMO.

Not panicking. Hibs have (apparently) turned down a player who would walk into our side and he's joined a rival. Really disappointing, especially because he is (or should be at least) loved among our fan base.

ekhibee
08-01-2020, 09:13 PM
McGeough is class........the Aberdeen manager knows it

Astonishing if our manager wasn't interested in signing him :bitchy:

He often outshone John McGinn in our midfield and our current midfielders (Mallan, Vela, Slivka and Hallberg) couldn't lace McGeough's boots

Farrago :grr:

McGinn was, and is a far better and far more consistent player than McGeoch. McGeouch's better than the ones we've got in just now but he was nowhere near the class of John McGinn and to say other wise is complete nonsense. McGinn was a good player at St Mirren, an excellent player at Hibs and an excellent player at Aston Villa both in the Championship and the EPL. McGeouch doesn't come anywhere close to that.

bigwheel
08-01-2020, 09:20 PM
McGinn was, and is a far better and far more consistent player than McGeoch. McGeouch's better than the ones we've got in just now but he was nowhere near the class of John McGinn and to say other wise is complete nonsense. McGinn was a good player at St Mirren, an excellent player at Hibs and an excellent player at Aston Villa both in the Championship and the EPL. McGeouch doesn't come anywhere close to that.

Think that’s a good summary..I would add though that imo McGeough performed better in their last season together with us...SJM has gone on to a completely different level now.


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hibee-boys
08-01-2020, 09:33 PM
2 threads, hundreds of posts....god help us if Griffiths goes somewhere else on loan!!

FilipinoHibs
09-01-2020, 08:38 AM
Think that’s a good summary..I would add though that imo McGeough performed better in their last season together with us...SJM has gone on to a completely different level now.


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Allan said so much in a recent interview that SJM made him and Dylan look good

matty_f
09-01-2020, 08:43 AM
Admin - why blank out the word that you left uncensored in 90+2's post?


We don't check every post for inappropriate language, the filter picks them up automatically.

Was it really worth the post about it, in bold?

Hibbyradge
09-01-2020, 08:45 AM
Was it really worth the post about it, in bold?

I'm guessing it didn't cost too much either in terms of effort or money. :greengrin