Ron Gordon

[ancient hibee]

Thank you, I was aware he had spoken about TV rights when he arrived, but I wasn't really sure what that meant. I can see a scenario when we are playing Spanish or Portuguese teams, and that may be of interested to South Americans, and latinos in the USA.

I think it's 50% of Californian residents have Spanish as their first language-a huge market.So the channel he set up was very popular.

As far as a new stadium name I don't know anyone that calls Murrayfield by its new name of BT Murrayfield but it was worth about £40million to the SRU.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I think it's 50% of Californian residents have Spanish as their first language-a huge market.So the channel he set up was very popular.

As far as a new stadium name I don't know anyone that calls Murrayfield by its new name of BT Murrayfield but it was worth about £40million to the SRU.


Either BBC has relaxed its advertising rules and/or broadcasting rights come with the mandate of referencing stadia by Sponsors names. Commentators will refer to stadia in this way.

[Ozyhibby]

The value of naming rights reflect the fact a lot of fans refuse to use the commercial name.


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[Billy Whizz]

Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

[Cataplana]

Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

Or pharmaceuticals.

The Bayer Eastregen Replacement Ground. (BERG)

[Keith_M]

.........
That's despite Spagettihad being a work of genius.


Whoever came up with that name deserves an award.

As for naming, my preferred option used to be Hibernian Insurance, but they sadly changed their name (to Aviva Ireland, I think).

I think Hibs should consider putting a sponsor's name of the roof of the East Stand, given it's visibility from passing planes.

[Billy Whizz]

Whoever came up with that name deserves an award.

As for naming, my preferred option used to be Hibernian Insurance, but they sadly changed their name (to Aviva Ireland, I think).

I think Hibs should consider putting a sponsor's name of the roof of the East Stand, given it's visibility from passing planes.

That’s a great shout re East stand roof, I’d send that to Hibs if I was you

[Hibs4185]

I think people would soon forget about the name change if it meant we could bring in a better quality of player and saw success on the park because of it.

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest what it’s called.

People went crazy when the SRU sold the naming rights to Murrayfield to BT but it made the SRU £20 million and paid off all their debts.

Now you thinking nothing of saying the BT Murray field

[The 90+2]

Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

Only if we get Crunchie as the half time guest 👍

[Billy Whizz]

Only if we get Crunchie as the half time guest 👍

Much better than Biscuits

[blackpoolhibs]

Why?

Speculating Is all part of the fun of being a supporter.
:agree:

I wonder how big this hotel will actually be?

[bingo70]

:agree:

I wonder how big this hotel will actually be?

Big enough for your helipad I’d assume.

[Itsnoteasy]

Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium😄

Quality Hibs Street

[KingPat4]

Whoever came up with that name deserves an award.

As for naming, my preferred option used to be Hibernian Insurance, but they sadly changed their name (to Aviva Ireland, I think).

I think Hibs should consider putting a sponsor's name of the roof of the East Stand, given it's visibility from passing planes.


Brentford get a few bob for doing that. It's on the flight path into Heathrow.

[Alex Trager]

Could play a we game with various stadium names
Chocolate company’s have 2 peak periods, Xmas and Easter. So for starters
Cadbury’s Easter Rd Stadium[emoji1]

A pal once said he would only accept it if apple took over the naming rights for Ibrox. He’s a hun ofc, iBrox was his suggestion. Genius actually.

But anyway it made me think what company would work with us, without having to change the name.
And for some reason I kept coming back to Cadburys. For the reasons you state above.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

A pal once said he would only accept it if apple took over the naming rights for Ibrox. He’s a hun ofc, iBrox was his suggestion. Genius actually.

But anyway it made me think what company would work with us, without having to change the name.
And for some reason I kept coming back to Cadburys. For the reasons you state above.

Asking is we have nothing to do with Terrys

[CraigHibee]

Only if we get Crunchie as the half time guest 👍

There's a wispa that might happen

[HoboHarry]

There's a wispa that might happen

You are going off Topic.....

[BroxburnHibee]

If the puns are starting it's usually a sign of the thread has run its course.

[Joe6-2]

Not sure about chocolate, Rowntrees used to be called Duncan’s! 😬

[derekduval]

If the puns are starting it's usually a sign of the thread has run its course.

It was bounty happen

[Keith_M]

If the puns are starting it's usually a sign of the thread has run its course.


I expect 'deeply offended, from Burton' will be along to tell us that soon.

[FilipinoHibs]

Given Ron's US business connections:

Reece's Easter Egg Stadium.

[Greenworld]

I will try and put the thread back on track. From everything I've read from people within the club the seem to have been excited with Ron's vision for the club going forward.
I am genuinely looking forward to his announcements this month on what he has decided on the way forward.
Perhaps deals have been getting done behind the scenes on sponsorship etc .
The Hotel comments from some are intriqueing as Hibernian did have plans drawn up looking at the feasibility of this in the FF and a New building in the gap between the FF and the east .
With STF and Rod looking to move out perhaps Ron might look at this again as a way on improving revenue streams.
My gut feeling is this is what Ron and Archie will have been looking at the most how to boost the income stream, how to create a tie in with another club or clubs .
Whatever happens you have to hope for some exciting news and you never no maybe even a couple of good players coming in as well .
Comon the Edinburgh Cowboys


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[I'm Spartacus]

I was totally excited when it all came about, but now I see him as the foreign girl who adds you on Facebook:

Why has she added me?
We've no connection?
She's promised me loads but never replies now?

The silence has been deafening.

[Greencore]

We accepted STF not giving us the finances to compete with hearts and recently Aberdeen, because of everything he done for us. However I can't see some fans accepting it from Ron.

[Speedway]

I was totally excited when it all came about, but now I see him as the foreign girl who adds you on Facebook:

Why has she added me?
We've no connection?
She's promised me loads but never replies now?

The silence has been deafening.

Does she ever end up replying?

Asking for a friend.

[matty_f]

I think I'm far more comfortable with a considered and thorough approach to taking us forward than a rash 'rip it up and start again' approach.

He's had a good look at the club, from the due diligence ahead of purchasing it to understanding how it works and what he's got to work with. It's not an exciting approach but it is a necessary one, and what you hope to see is exciting plans and possibilities arising from it.

Things I'd expect/hope to see:
- improved retail set-up (think pop-up shops in each of the stand concourses on match days) and it will be easier to buy from the club

- change to the existing season ticket model to give more flexibility/options to supporters, possibly even a Netflix style membership option that lets you pay monthly permanently until such a time that you choose not to, so you're automatically renewed each season. More 'value' to be built into the season ticket offering (think things like discounts, Hibs TV subscription included etc)

- training centre upgraded and other 'long term' projects started. If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be insisting on a coach development program, designed in house to make sure that there's a consistency of performance and improvement from the coaching staff (at all levels)

- stadium refresh. General housekeeping and maintenance stuff, plus a few nice to haves (big screens, updated scoreboard) etc.

- Increase spend per seat: If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be looking at ways of getting people into Easter Road earlier, and making it easy for them to spend money while they were there. Would set a 'spend per seat' target for the marketing/finance guys and let them get creative with it. For example, I have a season ticket but I don't generally spend any money at the ground - the food's too expensive for poor quality, I don't always pass a program seller and, depending on where I park, I often won't even see the Shop. I doubt I'm unique in that respect, so finding a way to get supporters like me motivated to spend more time and money at Easter Road on a match day opens up a lot of potential income.

- Change the model for how transfer budget is allocated (assuming it's not done like this already). Allocate a budget to each position based on priority and then task the manager and recruitment team with the job of trading up over a period of time for each position. For example: we identify a striker as a priority, and we give that position a budget of £1m (for argument's sake, I'm not saying we'll have a million to spend on a striker). We spend it and give the new signing a 3-4 year deal. If the manager can develop that striker to the point where we sell him on for a profit, then the manager gets the million pounds plus the profit to replace the striker with.
Given we have most of the squad on longish contracts at the moment, this would allow the manager to target 2 or 3 key positions and add to it over time.

- improved sponsorship/corporate income. Expect this to be a priority and for us to have a 'best ever' deal with our next shirt sponsor next season

- some link with other teams, not necessarily in the US but would expect Hibs to become part of a network of teams that have a mutually beneficial arrangement.

- a nod towards a fairly hefty lift in the player budget short term, to underpin the other work and give the support confidence in the new owner.

[Cataplana]

We accepted STF not giving us the finances to compete with hearts and recently Aberdeen, because of everything he done for us. However I can't see some fans accepting it from Ron.

This is the third season in a row we have put Hearts in they'd box, and it's happening earlier every year. What's not to accept?

[Brightside]

I'm pretty sure there is already a CPD for all the salaried coaches at Hibs Matty. But i agree with the point in general. A consistent approach to coaching at all levels too.

[Pagan Hibernia]

This is the third season in a row we have put Hearts in they'd box, and it's happening earlier every year. What's not to accept?


Finishing above hearts (as enjoyable as it is) should never be the limit of our ambition

[Cataplana]

Finishing above hearts (as enjoyable as it is) should never be the limit of our ambition

Probably.

[Keith_M]

Maybe there's a plan in place to put a giant net in front of the East and South Stands, to stop the bottles landing on the pitch. That could be a quite practical approach to a recurring issue.

Maybe Tasers for the Stewards as well, for when people invade the pitch.

:dunno:

[matty_f]

I'm pretty sure there is already a CPD for all the salaried coaches at Hibs Matty. But i agree with the point in general. A consistent approach to coaching at all levels too.

I presumed there would be, I just wonder if there's scope to take it up a level.

That's no comment on what's currently there, by the way - it may already be the case that it's top class.

[Pretty Boy]

Hopefully looking to review our partnership with Ticketmaster is at the forefront of his thoughts.

[Greencore]

This is the third season in a row we have put Hearts in they'd box, and it's happening earlier every year. What's not to accept?

Okay, Aberdeen then. They're not throwing crazy amount of cash around on transfer fees, however they pay a higher wage and they have around 3000 less season ticket holders then us.

[Cataplana]

Okay, Aberdeen then. They're not throwing crazy amount of cash around on transfer fees, however they pay a higher wage and they have around 3000 less season ticket holders then us.

I don't know how they do it. We should be aiming to finish as high up the league as poss, ImO.

[hibsbollah]

Maybe there's a plan in place to put a giant net in front of the East and South Stands, to stop the bottles landing on the pitch. That could be a quite practical approach to a recurring issue.

Maybe Tasers for the Stewards as well, for when people invade the pitch.

:dunno:

The protective netting is commonplace in France and other countries, cheap and effective.

[GloryGlory]

I don't know how they do it. We should be aiming to finish as high up the league as poss, ImO.

Are they not like the Yams and have a sugar daddy popping them cash?

[overdrive]

The protective netting is commonplace in France and other countries, cheap and effective.

And Hamilton

[hibsbollah]

And Hamilton

Really? I was last there for the relegation playoff first leg and I didn't notice any.

[I'm Spartacus]

Does she ever end up replying?

Asking for a friend.

Once you verify you're a real person by giving her your card details and security code then she replies really quickly, I guess she's still away for the Christmas holidays as it's been 2 weeks since I last heard from her.

[jacomo]

I think I'm far more comfortable with a considered and thorough approach to taking us forward than a rash 'rip it up and start again' approach.

He's had a good look at the club, from the due diligence ahead of purchasing it to understanding how it works and what he's got to work with. It's not an exciting approach but it is a necessary one, and what you hope to see is exciting plans and possibilities arising from it.

Things I'd expect/hope to see:
- improved retail set-up (think pop-up shops in each of the stand concourses on match days) and it will be easier to buy from the club

- change to the existing season ticket model to give more flexibility/options to supporters, possibly even a Netflix style membership option that lets you pay monthly permanently until such a time that you choose not to, so you're automatically renewed each season. More 'value' to be built into the season ticket offering (think things like discounts, Hibs TV subscription included etc)

- training centre upgraded and other 'long term' projects started. If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be insisting on a coach development program, designed in house to make sure that there's a consistency of performance and improvement from the coaching staff (at all levels)

- stadium refresh. General housekeeping and maintenance stuff, plus a few nice to haves (big screens, updated scoreboard) etc.

- Increase spend per seat: If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be looking at ways of getting people into Easter Road earlier, and making it easy for them to spend money while they were there. Would set a 'spend per seat' target for the marketing/finance guys and let them get creative with it. For example, I have a season ticket but I don't generally spend any money at the ground - the food's too expensive for poor quality, I don't always pass a program seller and, depending on where I park, I often won't even see the Shop. I doubt I'm unique in that respect, so finding a way to get supporters like me motivated to spend more time and money at Easter Road on a match day opens up a lot of potential income.

- Change the model for how transfer budget is allocated (assuming it's not done like this already). Allocate a budget to each position based on priority and then task the manager and recruitment team with the job of trading up over a period of time for each position. For example: we identify a striker as a priority, and we give that position a budget of £1m (for argument's sake, I'm not saying we'll have a million to spend on a striker). We spend it and give the new signing a 3-4 year deal. If the manager can develop that striker to the point where we sell him on for a profit, then the manager gets the million pounds plus the profit to replace the striker with.
Given we have most of the squad on longish contracts at the moment, this would allow the manager to target 2 or 3 key positions and add to it over time.

- improved sponsorship/corporate income. Expect this to be a priority and for us to have a 'best ever' deal with our next shirt sponsor next season

- some link with other teams, not necessarily in the US but would expect Hibs to become part of a network of teams that have a mutually beneficial arrangement.

- a nod towards a fairly hefty lift in the player budget short term, to underpin the other work and give the support confidence in the new owner.


Pre-match cheerleaders.

It’s ok Matty, you can admit it.

:wink:

[matty_f]

Pre-match cheerleaders.

It’s ok Matty, you can admit it.

:wink:

From everything in that post, that's the bit I get called out for :faf: :greengrin

[Keith_M]

The protective netting is commonplace in France and other countries, cheap and effective.


I remember going to a game in Vienna where they had guys with large umbrellas to protect players taking corners.

I actually burst out laughing when I saw it.

[Keith_M]

Pre-match cheerleaders.

It’s ok Matty, you can admit it.

:wink:



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TYvlC8IxUPM/TQEKe5VUQtI/AAAAAAAAGlI/v-4nNr6EBMo/s1600/GreenBayPackerCheerleaders.jpg

[jacomo]

^^

There we go. That will get the crowds flocking to ER nice and early.

Presumably the “G” stands for gorgeous?

:wink:

[Stuart93]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TYvlC8IxUPM/TQEKe5VUQtI/AAAAAAAAGlI/v-4nNr6EBMo/s1600/GreenBayPackerCheerleaders.jpg

Still better than the ones that come on at rugby park

[WoreTheGreen]

Gorgie boys

[jacomo]

From everything in that post, that's the bit I get called out for :faf: :greengrin


Ha! Your post had a lot of good sense in it.

But a lot of these changes are things that the club should be getting on with behind the scenes. It’s the big stuff that grabs the headlines and sets the agenda... I am a bit surprised we haven’t heard more on that tbh (although the Hecky debacle may have got in the way of course).

[Hibs4185]

I think I'm far more comfortable with a considered and thorough approach to taking us forward than a rash 'rip it up and start again' approach.

He's had a good look at the club, from the due diligence ahead of purchasing it to understanding how it works and what he's got to work with. It's not an exciting approach but it is a necessary one, and what you hope to see is exciting plans and possibilities arising from it.

Things I'd expect/hope to see:
- improved retail set-up (think pop-up shops in each of the stand concourses on match days) and it will be easier to buy from the club

- change to the existing season ticket model to give more flexibility/options to supporters, possibly even a Netflix style membership option that lets you pay monthly permanently until such a time that you choose not to, so you're automatically renewed each season. More 'value' to be built into the season ticket offering (think things like discounts, Hibs TV subscription included etc)

- training centre upgraded and other 'long term' projects started. If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be insisting on a coach development program, designed in house to make sure that there's a consistency of performance and improvement from the coaching staff (at all levels)

- stadium refresh. General housekeeping and maintenance stuff, plus a few nice to haves (big screens, updated scoreboard) etc.

- Increase spend per seat: If I was Ron Gordon, I'd be looking at ways of getting people into Easter Road earlier, and making it easy for them to spend money while they were there. Would set a 'spend per seat' target for the marketing/finance guys and let them get creative with it. For example, I have a season ticket but I don't generally spend any money at the ground - the food's too expensive for poor quality, I don't always pass a program seller and, depending on where I park, I often won't even see the Shop. I doubt I'm unique in that respect, so finding a way to get supporters like me motivated to spend more time and money at Easter Road on a match day opens up a lot of potential income.

- Change the model for how transfer budget is allocated (assuming it's not done like this already). Allocate a budget to each position based on priority and then task the manager and recruitment team with the job of trading up over a period of time for each position. For example: we identify a striker as a priority, and we give that position a budget of £1m (for argument's sake, I'm not saying we'll have a million to spend on a striker). We spend it and give the new signing a 3-4 year deal. If the manager can develop that striker to the point where we sell him on for a profit, then the manager gets the million pounds plus the profit to replace the striker with.
Given we have most of the squad on longish contracts at the moment, this would allow the manager to target 2 or 3 key positions and add to it over time.

- improved sponsorship/corporate income. Expect this to be a priority and for us to have a 'best ever' deal with our next shirt sponsor next season

- some link with other teams, not necessarily in the US but would expect Hibs to become part of a network of teams that have a mutually beneficial arrangement.

- a nod towards a fairly hefty lift in the player budget short term, to underpin the other work and give the support confidence in the new owner.

I’ll be the first to nominate matty_f for the role of Ron Gordon special adviser!

The carefully considered long term approach is the way forward. Better having £10 million spent over 5-10 years than all at once.

[Sudds_1]

From everything in that post, that's the bit I get called out for :faf: :greengrin

In these times of austerity we'd probably only afford the roly polys 😃

[Viva_Palmeiras]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TYvlC8IxUPM/TQEKe5VUQtI/AAAAAAAAGlI/v-4nNr6EBMo/s1600/GreenBayPackerCheerleaders.jpg

Sure one of these boys was the first and last streaker to do a Klinsmann dive on their newly laid artificial turf at Dunfermlines EEP...

[Viva_Palmeiras]

In the spirit of open-ness or “Gord-nost” I’d like to see..:

Things we tried (took a punt on) and what we learned (within reason) ...

For examples...

Fitness programmes
Catering (in-house/outsource)
Links with other clubs
Increasing revenues
Recruitment

We should always be looking to continuously improve so should be reflecting on the periods past.

[ancient hibee]

Don’t think the club would move away from getting as much of the season ticket money upfront as possible.A running monthly system is good for the fan but not so good if you want to buy a player.

[Ronniekirk]

I am all for the Club being integrated into the Community and innovative services being provided from the Stadium like Health Care if that’s helping people address issues and meeting needs
But the Core Business remains Football and to get bums on Seats we need a product on the Pitch
So am keen to hear Ron Gordon’s Plans to grow income An indoor pitch may be needed but if it doesn’t generate income it’s a big expense within guarantee it improves the quality of player we develop imo
Match Day Experience is best enjoyed when we are winning I can love with crap P A system if we are winning I don’t need a Score Board flashing up other stuff
Food however can always be improved and if that generates more income great
Half time I prefer chatting to mates in the concourse So unless Neil Young or some other singer I liked was doing an impromptu gig there isn’t a lot that would entice me to watch half time entertainment


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[overdrive]

Really? I was last there for the relegation playoff first leg and I didn't notice any.

Was there in the match earlier in the season. It was only at the away end. Not sure if you can make it out, but the poles keeping them up are.

[familyman]

Well we still await the big plan even now, I just hope it is attached to an action plan and not sweeping generalisations ,remember Romanovs big plan anyone?
I really really hope for a detailed point by point action plan funded sufficiently and realistic and AMBITIOUS.
Meantime I return to my earlier remark hot water in the loos would be a start to enhance the match day experience oh and a few coathooks from b&Q would not go amiss!

[BILLYHIBS]

Well we still await the big plan even now, I just hope it is attached to an action plan and not sweeping generalisations ,remember Romanovs big plan anyone?
I really really hope for a detailed point by point action plan funded sufficiently and realistic and AMBITIOUS.
Meantime I return to my earlier remark hot water in the loos would be a start to enhance the match day experience oh and a few coathooks from b&Q would not go amiss!
Chips

[Callum_62]

Nets at livi behind the goals too

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[Since452]

Nets at livi behind the goals too

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No fans to throw the ball back

[PaulSmith]

Is part of the strategy presented to the Board in December now being implemented...?

Ticketmaster costs - pass onto the fans

Player Pathway - get the young guys back on loan, promote them at every opportunity on social media and tell Jack to work with these guys first

Hibs TV Interviews - make the fans pay for the interesting stuff

[CapitalGreen]

Is part of the strategy presented to the Board in December now being implemented...?

Ticketmaster costs - pass onto the fans

Player Pathway - get the young guys back on loan, promote them at every opportunity on social media and tell Jack to work with these guys first

Hibs TV Interviews - make the fans pay for the interesting stuff

😴😴😴

[B.H.F.C]

😴😴😴

Think the other poster makes some valid points.

1 and 3 are about maximising revenue, or not doing something at cost depending on how you look at it. From a business perspective, that is absolutely something Ron could have looked at. And as for youth development, that’s something he spoke about at outset. It’s not something we’ve excelled in and it’s not something that is going to improve if you don’t give them a chance.

[PaulSmith]

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I know. I’m really sorry for boring you but I’m sure that there are some fans with the mental capacity to understand that things that were “free” to them before 1st January now incur a charge.

if you go to c35 away games per calendar year that’s an extra c£50 and if you want to watch the exciting stuff on hibs tv that’s an extra £60 now as well.

So, I’ll indulge you even more and ask if you knew that each dept at Hibs were tasked with reducing costs or increasing income. These were presented to the Board for acceptance in December and it’s not too far a leap to suggest that we are seeing these implemented now.

I’m sure some hibs fans will find these thoughts interesting and worthy of consideration but if it’s bored you then that’s also OK, I’ll keep my thoughts about your online persona to myself. :aok:

[green day]

I know. I’m really sorry for boring you but I’m sure that there are some fans with the mental capacity to understand that things that were “free” to them before 1st January now incur a charge.

if you go to c35 away games per calendar year that’s an extra c£50 and if you want to watch the exciting stuff on hibs tv that’s an extra £60 now as well.

So, I’ll indulge you even more and ask if you knew that each dept at Hibs were tasked with reducing costs or increasing income. These were presented to the Board for acceptance in December and it’s not too far a leap to suggest that we are seeing these implemented now.

I’m sure some hibs fans will find these thoughts interesting and worthy of consideration but if it’s bored you then that’s also OK, I’ll keep my thoughts about your online persona to myself. :aok:

I cant speak for anyone else, but any inside info you may have is welcome :agree:


As for the costs thing, it makes sense to reduce costs and increase revenues - however it is not much fun if all of that means more costs to the fans for an identical service.

I would be delighted to see the commercial side of the club doing (significantly) more in order that us fans dont have to "pony up" for everything - generally, Scottish football is very expensive for the product provided.

Whatever, we will see fairly soon how RG wants to run the club - if his grand plan is neither grand or much of a plan, I expect he might get a kicking at the AGM.

[MWHIBBIES]

We accepted STF not giving us the finances to compete with hearts and recently Aberdeen, because of everything he done for us. However I can't see some fans accepting it from Ron.

I really don't see Hibs getting an investor that will do this, ever. Probably best as well, I personally don't want to be relying on huge owner investment to compete, better to win through consistent ways like producing good players, getting good sponsors, a good scouting network etc.

[PaulSmith]

I cant speak for anyone else, but any inside info you may have is welcome :agree:


As for the costs thing, it makes sense to reduce costs and increase revenues - however it is not much fun if all of that means more costs to the fans for an identical service.

I would be delighted to see the commercial side of the club doing (significantly) more in order that us fans dont have to "pony up" for everything - generally, Scottish football is very expensive for the product provided.

Whatever, we will see fairly soon how RG wants to run the club - if his grand plan is neither grand or much of a plan, I expect he might get a kicking at the AGM.

Thanks.

I don’t have any inside info though, it’s just remembering what was said and putting yourself into the shoes of the people running the various depts. What Hibs have done makes business sense but fitba fans are slightly different as we add emotion into everything.

In regards the player pathway the first team coach is set KPI’s to have academy players in the first team or squad. It makes sense for some to ask..”Why pay £1m over 3 seasons for McNulty when we don’t know if Gullen can do the same job for a fraction and he can also make us £1m in future transfer fees?”

The same with Fraser Murray and perhaps Omeonga.

For me I’m neither here nor there about RG. The things that I’ve mentioned should be well within the remit of Leeann Dempster, if it’s taken Paton or RG to ask then so be it.

I’ve completely resigned myself to Hibs being run the same as it’s always been. It’s basically the same old faces in the Boardroom, they are risk adverse and RG isn’t going to say “here’s £5m, crack on guys”... the fans will be asked to pay a little bit more and they’ll strive to increase commercial income.

It will be a natural increase rather than a revolution.

Do I think it will make a material difference, nope and certainly not within the next couple of years.

[Ozyhibby]

Thanks.

I don’t have any inside info though, it’s just remembering what was said and putting yourself into the shoes of the people running the various depts. What Hibs have done makes business sense but fitba fans are slightly different as we add emotion into everything.

In regards the player pathway the first team coach is set KPI’s to have academy players in the first team or squad. It makes sense for some to ask..”Why pay £1m over 3 seasons for McNulty when we don’t know if Gullen can do the same job for a fraction and he can also make us £1m in future transfer fees?”

The same with Fraser Murray and perhaps Omeonga.

For me I’m neither here nor there about RG. The things that I’ve mentioned should be well within the remit of Leeann Dempster, if it’s taken Paton or RG to ask then so be it.

I’ve completely resigned myself to Hibs being run the same as it’s always been. It’s basically the same old faces in the Boardroom, they are risk adverse and RG isn’t going to say “here’s £5m, crack on guys”... the fans will be asked to pay a little bit more and they’ll strive to increase commercial income.

It will be a natural increase rather than a revolution.

Do I think it will make a material difference, nope and certainly not within the next couple of years.

Youth development definitely needs looked at. Eddie May has been in post for more than 5 years now and we are not seeing players break through in anything like the numbers that the club hoped for.


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[superfurryhibby]

Thanks.

I don’t have any inside info though, it’s just remembering what was said and putting yourself into the shoes of the people running the various depts. What Hibs have done makes business sense but fitba fans are slightly different as we add emotion into everything.

In regards the player pathway the first team coach is set KPI’s to have academy players in the first team or squad. It makes sense for some to ask..”Why pay £1m over 3 seasons for McNulty when we don’t know if Gullen can do the same job for a fraction and he can also make us £1m in future transfer fees?”

The same with Fraser Murray and perhaps Omeonga.

For me I’m neither here nor there about RG. The things that I’ve mentioned should be well within the remit of Leeann Dempster, if it’s taken Paton or RG to ask then so be it.

I’ve completely resigned myself to Hibs being run the same as it’s always been. It’s basically the same old faces in the Boardroom, they are risk adverse and RG isn’t going to say “here’s £5m, crack on guys”... the fans will be asked to pay a little bit more and they’ll strive to increase commercial income.

It will be a natural increase rather than a revolution.

Do I think it will make a material difference, nope and certainly not within the next couple of years.

In most respects I agree with what you say and looking at it from the ownerships perspective, you can see the rationale. However, I thought there had been a significant change in the boardroom, with the obvious counter to that being Dempster?

In terms of risk averse and asking the fans to pay a bit more. That’s all very well when fans can see the team heading in the right direction. However, gambling on youth development like you suggest when the are stacked against you is very high risk approach?

I’m sure Gordon and his advisors understand that Hibs are enjoying a purple patch in terms of crowds, goodwill and that more underwhelming seasons will see that evaporate at the same rate as it accumulated?

Bottom line, fans aren’t daft. We will swallow add on costs and always welcome young players getting a chance but if the team fails to deliver then Gordon will be looking at seriously reduced income through attendances. Losing 4-5 thousand fans at each home game isn’t a clever business move.

Hopefully, our new ownership have a bit more ambition than you speculate. As has been said by others STF had huge goodwill from fans, that softened the response to adversity we faced under the Petrie regime. Gordon has only question marks against his reason for buying Hibs at the moment. Not wise to alienate the fans by screwing more cash, whilst simultaneously downgrading the product on the pitch at the same time.

[bingo70]

Notice the match highlights and post match interviews from today’s game are only going to be available to hibstv subscribers as well so think PS is right about trying to add value to HibsTV for people that pay for it.

It’s not for me though, I pay for season tickets for me and my boy and what feels like about a million quid a month in the shop, if that’s not enough to get to hear what the managers thoughts are then so be it. Anything of interest will end up in here and in the press anyway.

[Peevemor]

Notice the match highlights and post match interviews from today’s game are only going to be available to hibstv subscribers as well so think PS is right about trying to add value to HibsTV for people that pay for it.

It’s not for me though, I pay for season tickets for me and my boy and what feels like about a million quid a month in the shop, if that’s not enough to get to hear what the managers thoughts are then so be it. Anything of interest will end up in here and in the press anyway.

There used to be more subscribers-only content on Hibs TV (often Andrew Sleight interviews at East Mains). When Tom Zanelli started doing Outside the Box, Fontaine of Knowledge, etc. this was sponsored by Maarathon bet who obvously wanted as many people to see it as possible. At this point, apart from match streams & highlights, most Hibs TV content became freely available.

In my opinion some sort of middle ground would be good, eg. interviews & fun stuff for subscribers for the first 5-7 days then public thereafter.

[Unseen work]

I have Hibs TV and use it regularly for watching games, interviews etc but have been noticing the majority of it was going on the Hibs YouTube channel anyway.

I think this will encourage more folk to sign up for £6? A month which is fair. Season ticket holders could/should be given some form of discount imo however the discount offered I’m sure wouldn’t work out as too much of a saving.

[PaulSmith]

In most respects I agree with what you say and looking at it from the ownerships perspective, you can see the rationale. However, I thought there had been a significant change in the boardroom, with the obvious counter to that being Dempster?

In terms of risk averse and asking the fans to pay a bit more. That’s all very well when fans can see the team heading in the right direction. However, gambling on youth development like you suggest when the are stacked against you is very high risk approach?

I’m sure Gordon and his advisors understand that Hibs are enjoying a purple patch in terms of crowds, goodwill and that more underwhelming seasons will see that evaporate at the same rate as it accumulated?

Bottom line, fans aren’t daft. We will swallow add on costs and always welcome young players getting a chance but if the team fails to deliver then Gordon will be looking at seriously reduced income through attendances. Losing 4-5 thousand fans at each home game isn’t a clever business move.

Hopefully, our new ownership have a bit more ambition than you speculate. As has been said by others STF had huge goodwill from fans, that softened the response to adversity we faced under the Petrie regime. Gordon has only question marks against his reason for buying Hibs at the moment. Not wise to alienate the fans by screwing more cash, whilst simultaneously downgrading the product on the pitch at the same time.

re the Board.

Gordon - July 2019

Dempster - June 2014
Houston - December 2011
Jones - January 2007
Langholm - April 2006
Dunn - Reappointed June 2015

Paton - July 2019
Power - fans rep/director - June 2019
Larnach - Finance director Feb 2019

[Ronniekirk]

I really don't see Hibs getting an investor that will do this, ever. Probably best as well, I personally don't want to be relying on huge owner investment to compete, better to win through consistent ways like producing good players, getting good sponsors, a good scouting network etc.

But to get good scouting systems and good coaches you need to invest money and if they are doing their job they will get poached by bigger clubs But agree would rather we did that in place The pleasure from watching a group of talented youngster s come through the system is immeasurable
But it is so difficult to achieve The Golden Generation of Brown Thompson Riorden O Conner etc seems so long ago now .and big clubs now buy young players from clubs if they see potential
But until Ron Unveils his plans we are in the Dark
In the here and now though .This Transfer window is crucial to where we finish up in the League


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[Allant1981]

Youth development definitely needs looked at. Eddie May has been in post for more than 5 years now and we are not seeing players break through in anything like the numbers that the club hoped for.


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How many were the club hoping would break into the 1st team?

[Brightside]

The Ron Plan is really starting to drag on now. They should have least have been trip feeding something. Saying nothing at all doesnt help anyone involved in the club at any level.

[bingo70]

The Ron Plan is really starting to drag on now. They should have least have been trip feeding something. Saying nothing at all doesnt help anyone involved in the club at any level.

Especially when the AGM is overdue.

I think people want to give Ron the benefit of any doubt and I think most people will assume Rod and STF will have done their due diligence on him to make sure there’s nothing untoward going on but it’s really not been a great start for him in terms of communication, transparency and making a real difference to us in terms of the transfer market.

[Iggy Pope]

Was there in the match earlier in the season. It was only at the away end. Not sure if you can make it out, but the poles keeping them up are.

Definitely. At one point in the 2nd half the string along the top had sagged to the extent it was on the halfway line from my vantage point. Troublesome.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Especially when the AGM is overdue.

I think people want to give Ron the benefit of any doubt and I think most people will assume Rod and STF will have done their due diligence on him to make sure there’s nothing untoward going on but it’s really not been a great start for him in terms of communication, transparency and making a real difference to us in terms of the transfer market.
AGM is well overdue 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Surely their strategy and financial planning is in place by now

[greenlex]

How many were the club hoping would break into the 1st team?

This. I think we do ok on that front to be honest. There’s 5 in the squad right now and three of them regular starters.

[theonlywayisup]

AGM is well overdue 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Surely their strategy and financial planning is in place by now

Anyone know when the AGM is going to be.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Anyone know when the AGM is going to be.

Despite asking several times, nobody seems to know, must be in people's diaries, and the accounts iirc were up to 30/6/2019....

[Baldy Foghorn]

Despite asking several times, nobody seems to know, must be in people's diaries, and the accounts iirc were up to 30/6/2019....

My guess is late February early March

[DarlingtonHibee]

My guess is late February early March

Bf, can't understand the delay, surely the main purpose is to review the year performance.

Might as well wait and do next year's at the same time 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[Ozyhibby]

How many were the club hoping would break into the 1st team?

In the last 5 years I think only porteous has become a first team regular. I would have thought they would have wanted a bit more than that for all the investment.


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[Keith_M]

Despite asking several times, nobody seems to know, must be in people's diaries, and the accounts iirc were up to 30/6/2019....


I think the reason people don't know is because the club themselves don't seem to have set a date for it.

I don't think there's anything suspicious about that, but some people seem desperate to know what the plan is ASAP.

[B.H.F.C]

I think the reason people don't know is because the club themselves don't seem to have set a date for it.

I don't think there's anything suspicious about that, but some people seem desperate to know what the plan is ASAP.

It is all very hush hush, to not even have released the accounts, which we were promised at the point of the takeover would make for very good reading. Normally people wouldn’t really care but on the back of a takeover (with many still wondering why the guy who took us over wanted to take us over) I think it’s understandable that folk are getting a wee bit impatient.

[Greenworld]

The Ron Plan is really starting to drag on now. They should have least have been trip feeding something. Saying nothing at all doesnt help anyone involved in the club at any level.The origionanal plan was to present to the board in December 2019 what his vision / plan was. Then to present it to the fans early 2020 I'm sure I recall January being mentioned . So we may not be far away from from announcements.


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[Ronniekirk]

It is all very hush hush, to not even have released the accounts, which we were promised at the point of the takeover would make for very good reading. Normally people wouldn’t really care but on the back of a takeover (with many still wondering why the guy who took us over wanted to take us over) I think it’s understandable that folk are getting a wee bit impatient.

The removal of heck and his entourage will have made a wee dent and the signings that haven’t worked out are still on the books
Maybe they want to try and offload some of them off the wage bill but who knows
Delay just leads to speculation in the absence of facts
But if as someone else suggested they have been implementing savings and income maximisation straggles in all departments recently , maybe they want those completed and that will assist with tuning the finer details of the bigger plan and also assume they want the Transfer window out the way and hopefully we have progressed in the Cup as early exit deprives is of more income
But don’t know why they can’t just name a date for it as surely it needs to happen Feb or March at latest


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[DarlingtonHibee]

I think the reason people don't know is because the club themselves don't seem to have set a date for it.

I don't think there's anything suspicious about that, but some people seem desperate to know what the plan is ASAP.

I'm not suspicious, but we don't all live in Edinburgh.

[GreenPJ]

I'm not suspicious, but we don't all live in Edinburgh.

Including the owner/chairman

[Keith_M]

It is all very hush hush, to not even have released the accounts, which we were promised at the point of the takeover would make for very good reading. Normally people wouldn’t really care but on the back of a takeover (with many still wondering why the guy who took us over wanted to take us over) I think it’s understandable that folk are getting a wee bit impatient.


Fair enough.

[Lago]

I think the reason people don't know is because the club themselves don't seem to have set a date for it.

I don't think there's anything suspicious about that, but some people seem desperate to know what the plan is ASAP.

Not suspicious not desperate, think most are just looking for a little clarity.

[Allant1981]

In the last 5 years I think only porteous has become a first team regular. I would have thought they would have wanted a bit more than that for all the investment.


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So you dont know how many they were expecting to come through? Porteous, murray and shaw are all in and around the 1st team at the moment, they have just recalled gullan to see how he fares with the 1st team also. Even if 1 or 2 made it to regular 1st team football that's not to bad considering how many players dont actually make top level football

[Ozyhibby]

So you dont know how many they were expecting to come through? Porteous, murray and shaw are all in and around the 1st team at the moment, they have just recalled gullan to see how he fares with the 1st team also. Even if 1 or 2 made it to regular 1st team football that's not to bad considering how many players dont actually make top level football

Murray and Shaw are in the squad but have seen very little first team action. Gullan even less.


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[Baldy Foghorn]

Bf, can't understand the delay, surely the main purpose is to review the year performance.

Might as well wait and do next year's at the same time 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Not sure there is a legal requirement to have it quickly, as long as it's within 12 months I think. We are used to them being in November and December, hence the frustration surrounding this one

[blackpoolhibs]

I think the reason people don't know is because the club themselves don't seem to have set a date for it.

I don't think there's anything suspicious about that, but some people seem desperate to know what the plan is ASAP.

I dont think we are desperate to know what the clubs plans are ASAP, they have had months to come up with one, and told us there should be news in January.

Its January now, so people are wondering what the plans are and when we will hear about it?

[04Sauzee]

I dont think we are desperate to know what the clubs plans are ASAP, they have had months to come up with one, and told us there should be news in January.

Its January now, so people are wondering what the plans are and when we will hear about it?
Im guessing January?

[blackpoolhibs]

Im guessing January?

Me too, i hope it does not drag on any longer. :wink:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Me too, i hope it does not drag on any longer. :wink:

You've still not got the hang of this patience thing have you? 😉

[hibbyfraelibby]

Bf, can't understand the delay, surely the main purpose is to review the year performance.

Might as well wait and do next year's at the same time 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

AGMs are so last century. They add nothing to the management of the company when a single shareholder has a sufficient holding to do as he pleases. As for reviewing a years performance god help any company that waits a full year to do that

[DarlingtonHibee]

Including the owner/chairman

Exactly, hence why it must be in people's diaries

[Hibs4185]

Good things come to those who wait

[DarlingtonHibee]

AGMs are so last century. They add nothing to the management of the company when a single shareholder has a sufficient holding to do as he pleases. As for reviewing a years performance god help any company that waits a full year to do that

I don't know if you are a shareholder, but the business element is a maximum of ten minutes.

The rest is an opportunity to ask questions of the board and the manager.

[McKenzie]

Youth development definitely needs looked at. Eddie May has been in post for more than 5 years now and we are not seeing players break through in anything like the numbers that the club hoped for.


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100% this. Seems there’s more stories about players disliking him than players coming through. Academy needs a full review to ensure we are not losing players to hearts which is definitely happening.

[monarch]

Murray and Shaw are in the squad but have seen very little first team action. Gullan even less.


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Shaw and Gullan originally came through Hearts academy

[Alex Trager]

AGMs are so last century. They add nothing to the management of the company when a single shareholder has a sufficient holding to do as he pleases. As for reviewing a years performance god help any company that waits a full year to do that

If you are talking about this century, surely you mean he or she pleases ;-)

[lord bunberry]

Shaw and Gollan originally came through Hearts academy
Gollan hasn’t hit the heights yet.

[greenlex]

Shaw and Gollan originally came through Hearts academy

Stretching it. They’ve both been at Hibs since they were 15. Very much Hibs products.

[monarch]

Gollan hasn’t hit the heights yet.
😂😂
Touché sir

I’ve edited now

[hibbyfraelibby]

I don't know if you are a shareholder, but the business element is a maximum of ten minutes.

The rest is an opportunity to ask questions of the board and the manager.

The business part of the AGM is the element defined by the Companies Act and the company articles (companies being formed now can choose not to have an AGM). The "open" session after the formal business is a courtesy and not technically part of the AGM but a seperated meeting.

[hibbyfraelibby]

If you are talking about this century, surely you mean he or she pleases ;-)

Unless Ron has gender identified as something other that male then "He" is the correct usage, if Ron has then the correct term would be "they" as He/She would be too binary😉😉😉

[Hibbyradge]

It is all very hush hush, to not even have released the accounts, which we were promised at the point of the takeover would make for very good reading. Normally people wouldn’t really care but on the back of a takeover (with many still wondering why the guy who took us over wanted to take us over) I think it’s understandable that folk are getting a wee bit impatient.

I think the accounts will make for good reading and the club don't want to advertise how comfortable we are before the window closes.

Might as well have some positive speculation for a change.

[Keith_M]

I think the accounts will make for good reading and the club don't want to advertise how comfortable we are before the window closes.

...


That's the one.

[DarlingtonHibee]

The business part of the AGM is the element defined by the Companies Act and the company articles (companies being formed now can choose not to have an AGM). The "open" session after the formal business is a courtesy and not technically part of the AGM but a seperated meeting.

Thanks for telling me what I knew.

[FilipinoHibs]

That's the one.

Agreed - don't your hand before the deals are done.

[blackpoolhibs]

You've still not got the hang of this patience thing have you? 😉


You think i would by now matey? :greengrin

[Keith_M]

I heard the reason for the delay is that it's taking longer than expected to get the new Shawfair Stadium design nailed down.

[eastcoasthibby]

They won't release the financial accounts til after the window, cos if there is cash available fans will expect it to be spent in the window ...whereas after it is too late it will get directed to some value based or supposed background idea that doesn't add visible value to the squad ...the delay just adds to suspicious minds thinking ..😮

[Hibbyradge]

They won't release the financial accounts til after the window, cos if there is cash available fans will expect it to be spent in the window ...whereas after it is too late it will get directed to some value based or supposed background idea that doesn't add visible value to the squad ...the delay just adds to suspicious minds thinking ..😮

I posted earlier that if the accounts are good, maybe we're hiding the fact from clubs we want to buy from.

[Chuck Rhoades]

From a match day experience / atmosphere perspective there is an ambitious vision. One that I feel will excite the majority of our support. Expect this to become clearer towards Feb-Mar.

Interested to see plans from a commercial and playing squad perspective.

[PaulSmith]

From a match day experience / atmosphere perspective there is an ambitious vision. One that I feel will excite the majority of our support. Expect this to become clearer towards Feb-Mar.

Interested to see plans from a commercial and playing squad perspective.

Tease!

[Peevemor]

From a match day experience / atmosphere perspective there is an ambitious vision. One that I feel will excite the majority of our support. Expect this to become clearer towards Feb-Mar.

Interested to see plans from a commercial and playing squad perspective.

Chips and a (solo) clapping plaza?

[B.H.F.C]

From a match day experience / atmosphere perspective there is an ambitious vision. One that I feel will excite the majority of our support. Expect this to become clearer towards Feb-Mar.

Interested to see plans from a commercial and playing squad perspective.

Safe standing or something along those lines would be my guess.

[SteveHFC]

Safe standing or something along those lines would be my guess.

:hyper

[The 90+2]

Chips and a (solo) clapping plaza?

😂😂

[jacomo]

Tease!


Wait til you see the cheerleaders!

[SHODAN]

From a match day experience / atmosphere perspective there is an ambitious vision. One that I feel will excite the majority of our support. Expect this to become clearer towards Feb-Mar.

Interested to see plans from a commercial and playing squad perspective.

Turning the FFL into safe standing is my bet.

[BILLYHIBS]

Turning the FFL into safe standing is my bet.

Hope so

:scarf::scarf:

[my left peg]

I wouldn't mind ' ponying up ' if we were thinking about bringing in a safe standing section, something that myself and my sons would enjoy especially in the corner of the famous five and east,dont know how viable it would be though.

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[KingPat4]

All for safe standing in the lower. :agree: I'm in the FF upper and whenever I watch us on TV I'm surprised at how empty the lower section is, Takes away from the atmosphere. Mind you the BBC camera work is the worst there has ever been. Rarely focuses on crowd celebration.At the derby match I don't recall one single BBC shot of fans going nuts in the Wheatfield stand after either goal.

[Keith_M]

From a match day experience / atmosphere perspective there is an ambitious vision. One that I feel will excite the majority of our support. Expect this to become clearer towards Feb-Mar.

Interested to see plans from a commercial and playing squad perspective.


They're going to employ 500 Polish Fans to make some noise?

[Jack Hackett]

From a match day experience / atmosphere perspective there is an ambitious vision. One that I feel will excite the majority of our support. Expect this to become clearer towards Feb-Mar.

Interested to see plans from a commercial and playing squad perspective.

Filling in the corners :hyper

[JimBHibees]

All for safe standing in the lower. :agree: I'm in the FF upper and whenever I watch us on TV I'm surprised at how empty the lower section is, Takes away from the atmosphere. Mind you the BBC camera work is the worst there has ever been. Rarely focuses on crowd celebration.At the derby match I don't recall one single BBC shot of fans going nuts in the Wheatfield stand after either goal.

If they were focused on Wheatfield all they would have seen was greeting jambos.

[007]

Wait til you see the cheerleaders!

Made up of guys from the singing section who are currently undergoing an X Factor style audition process.

[Keith_M]

Made up of guys from the singing section who are currently undergoing an X Factor style audition process.


And some serious plastic surgery....

[KingPat4]

If they were focused on Wheatfield all they would have seen was greeting jambos.

School end. Sorry, what an erse.

[Since452]

Turning the FFL into safe standing is my bet.

That would be effin amazing

[davym7062]

If they were focused on Wheatfield all they would have seen was greeting jambos.

:top marks:top marks:top marks

[Jack Hackett]

If they were focused on Wheatfield all they would have seen was greeting jambos.

Fine by me. The more the merrier :greengrin

[familyman]

As it stands we are I reckon a mid table team, that is not what we anyone wants so exactly when is Mr Invisible going to produce this action plan?
Meantime we need more quality that is just so obvious.

[SquashedFrogg]

As it stands we are I reckon a mid table team, that is not what we anyone wants so exactly when is Mr Invisible going to produce this action plan?
Meantime we need more quality that is just so obvious.

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

[Allant1981]

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual

[DarlingtonHibee]

But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual

Stop taking so much sense.....

[Baldy Foghorn]

But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual

I think people are getting a bit panicky as yet no date for AGM and we haven't signed anyone yet. It's natural to be concerned

[PaulSmith]

But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual

If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?

[Greenworld]

If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?10

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[Jones28]

If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?

7. Realised their mistake appointing heckingbottom and they have got the replacement bang on the money. Justifiably allowed the previous manager to bring his own players in after he steadied the ship when Lennon left. Up to the point JR was appointed it would have been a 3/4.

[Jones28]

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

Using facts to back up a point, it’ll never catch on mate.

[PaulSmith]

7. Realised their mistake appointing heckingbottom and they have got the replacement bang on the money. Justifiably allowed the previous manager to bring his own players in after he steadied the ship when Lennon left. Up to the point JR was appointed it would have been a 3/4.

Wouldn’t disagree with any of that.

[SquashedFrogg]

If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?

Surely performance should be measured over a longer period? Also I'd suggest that many initiatives and plans are possibly still to come to fruition.

If you're looking at purely on the pitch performance then clearly mistakes have been made in the last 12 months. The board followed a similar process when appointing the last manager and subsequently backed him in the transfer market.

It didn't work out. It happens at every club.

Since then, they sacked PH and moved swiftly to replace him.

We should always strive to be better. I've seen nothing to suggest the club don't want to be better at everything we do.

[Steve20]

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.

[The Modfather]

7. Realised their mistake appointing heckingbottom and they have got the replacement bang on the money. Justifiably allowed the previous manager to bring his own players in after he steadied the ship when Lennon left. Up to the point JR was appointed it would have been a 3/4.

Surely it’s too early to judge Ross as the right appointment? I think he will be proved a good appointment, and it’s undeniable he has improved us. However Heckingbottom, despite arguments about performances, also improved us last season before a woeful summer window and it unraveled this season.

[Allant1981]

I think people are getting a bit panicky as yet no date for AGM and we haven't signed anyone yet. It's natural to be concerned

Do folk really get panicky about the AGM? We have loads of time to get folk signed, GM has already said we are working on getting players in

[Allant1981]

If you were rating the Boards performance over the last 12 months, taking everything into consideration, what marks out of 10 would you give?

At this stage probably a 6 or 7

[Cataplana]

And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.

The point would be that as an owner of a Premiership club he would be able to influence matters such as TV rights. All he has to do is keep us in the top division.

Maybe not what we want to hear, but a plausible reason for getting involved.

[we are hibs]

But it's a good reason to have a pop at the board as usual


Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.


A sense of realism is that we are one of the biggest clubs in scotland yet we have rarely ever acted like one. The hibs board/owner cannot change the past but they can change the future. At the moment the whole takeover has been pretty much a damp squib. We were told we should be excited when it was all announced; what have we actually got to be excited about?

[SquashedFrogg]

And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.

If that's you thoughts then fair enough. I think we all want to improve and be better. I was simply pointing out that cheap shots at our new owner are baseless.

FWIW I'm sure he wants us to be much higher than you suggest. But this ambition has to be met with a sense of realism.

He made a financial commitment from day one. There will be more to come.

One things certain. He's not going to dramatically pump millions into us over night.

[SquashedFrogg]

A sense of realism is that we are one of the biggest clubs in scotland yet we have rarely ever acted like one. The hibs board/owner cannot change the past but they can change the future. At the moment the whole takeover has been pretty much a damp squib. We were told we should be excited when it was all announced; what have we actually got to be excited about?

He's owned us for 6 months. What were you expecting at this point?

[we are hibs]

He's owned us for 6 months. What were you expecting at this point?

I wasnt expecting anything. We were told we should be excited and they were looking forward to telling us more in the coming weeks and months. We have currently been told nothing more. We were then told january so we will wait and see what happens in the remaining 2 weeks. I dont see why people being curious and concerned is such a problem though when theres so many more questions than answers still.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Do folk really get panicky about the AGM? We have loads of time to get folk signed, GM has already said we are working on getting players in

I think more so this one as we want to hear the plans

[bingo70]

He's owned us for 6 months. What were you expecting at this point?

I can’t speak for the person you’ve quoted but my answers would be the following:-

For us to be more ambitious in the transfer market. Both the last managers have spoken of having to move players on before bringing other players in. Considering how average a squad we have just now that’s not great to hear

Some plans from him as to how we’re going to challenge the teams above us, it doesn’t sound like it’s going to be by out spending them so how are we going to do it?

What his bigger picture plans are, infrastructure plans etc.....not asking for detailed plans but it’d be nice to know what he’s thinking.

An AGM and accounts that I believe are months overdue. I’m not a numbers man myself however I think the lack of transparency is starting to be a bit of a concern.

I know you say it’s only 6 months but that’s quite a long time in football. Presumably he had some plans before finalising the deal as well so you’d assume plans have been getting made for 6-9 months now?

[Wakeyhibee]

A sense of realism is that we are one of the biggest clubs in scotland yet we have rarely ever acted like one. The hibs board/owner cannot change the past but they can change the future. At the moment the whole takeover has been pretty much a damp squib. We were told we should be excited when it was all announced; what have we actually got to be excited about?

There is also a false expectation of someone pumping in millions as is seen all over England. However this doesn't translate north of the border.

Hibs have the 5th best average finish in the Premier over the last 20 years which is about right on budget terms.

Is it worth millions to get the coveted 3rd force label.?

I think Hibs need to get the footballing side right on the budget they have, other teams can over perform. St Johnstone recently have been a great example. Maybe RG is looking that way and it's not a quick fix and millions wasted.

[FilipinoHibs]

There is also a false expectation of someone pumping in millions as is seen all over England. However this doesn't translate north of the border.

Hibs have the 5th best average finish in the Premier over the last 20 years which is about right on budget terms.

Is it worth millions to get the coveted 3rd force label.?

I think Hibs need to get the footballing side right on the budget they have, other teams can over perform. St Johnstone recently have been a great example. Maybe RG is looking that way and it's not a quick fix and millions wasted.

That is basically what he said when he came in. A bit more revenue and focus on player development and overall better football management should see us best if the rest and occasional challenge to old firm. Well sourced and developed players should see us challenge the old firm more, they are not world beaters.

[Jones28]

Surely it’s too early to judge Ross as the right appointment? I think he will be proved a good appointment, and it’s undeniable he has improved us. However Heckingbottom, despite arguments about performances, also improved us last season before a woeful summer window and it unraveled this season.

Based on the evidence so far I’d say he’s a good appointment, fair enough?

[bingo70]

That is basically what he said when he came in. A bit more revenue and focus on player development and overall better football management should see us best if the rest and occasional challenge to old firm. Well sourced and developed players should see us challenge the old firm more, they are not world beaters.

That’s just what we’ve always tried to do.

If that’s really Rons plan then it’s not great to be honest.

Every team tries to source and develop the best players they can, if we’re spending less than our competitors how are we going to do that? That’s what I want to know.

Charging the punters a few extra quid for booking fees and getting more people buying Hibs tv won’t make a bit difference. Getting a sponsor next year would help so I’m sure he’s working on that but if we’re still shopping in the same market for sponsors as we were last season you’ve got to imagine we’re not going to be inundated with huge offers this season.

[Allant1981]

I think more so this one as we want to hear the plans

I'm intrigued to hear his plans but cant say I'm getting panicky about the agm, by all accounts he is a successful business man so clearly not daft and knows how to run a business, as does LD so cant see any reason to be panicking

[Greencore]

There is also a false expectation of someone pumping in millions as is seen all over England. However this doesn't translate north of the border.

Hibs have the 5th best average finish in the Premier over the last 20 years which is about right on budget terms.

Is it worth millions to get the coveted 3rd force label.?

I think Hibs need to get the footballing side right on the budget they have, other teams can over perform. St Johnstone recently have been a great example. Maybe RG is looking that way and it's not a quick fix and millions wasted.

Have Aberdeen spent millions this season?

Hibs have the highest priced season tickets in the league outside the OF and we are just to accept 5th place.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

Makes you wonder why he got involved in that case.

[The 90+2]

Makes you wonder why he got involved in that case.

That is the big, massive, elephant in the room that we’ve been waiting months to find out about.

[B.H.F.C]

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

We’ve never enjoyed the advantage, we currently have, over competitors that we have now.

If we don’t get the finger out that advantage (number of season ticket holders) will start to reduce.

[Jones28]

That is the big, massive, elephant in the room that we’ve been waiting months to find out about.

Celtic and Rangers are out of his price range.

Aberdeen have wealthy backers.

Hearts are ****s.

Everyone else are diddy teams.

That’s leaves Hibs as the only opportunity to invest in a British side that could realistically qualify for Europe and attract a large enough support to be relatively self sufficient.

[The 90+2]

Celtic and Rangers are out of his price range.

Aberdeen have wealthy backers.

Hearts are ****s.

Everyone else are diddy teams.

That’s leaves Hibs as the only opportunity to invest in a British side that could realistically qualify for Europe and attract a large enough support to be relatively self sufficient.

It still makes little sense for an American based Peruvian to purchase a Scottish football club and model the club he’s bought on the likes of St Johnstone or Killie and punch above our weight while not investing in the playing side of the club at all. What’s happening with the indoor stadia investment at HTC also?

[Hibeesmad]

It still makes little sense for an American based Peruvian to purchase a Scottish football club and model the club he’s bought on the likes of St Johnstone or Killie and punch above our weight while not investing in the playing side of the club at all. What’s happening with the indoor stadia investment at HTC also?

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?

[The 90+2]

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?

It’s a big deal because that’s what RGs money was going to be spent on we got told? I didn’t give an either or in relation to player recruitment.

[ElginHibbie]

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?

Short term, no. Long term, probably.

And sure that chat when Ron came in was he was planning more for the long term

[Barman Stanton]

What is the big deal about the indoor pitch being brought in? Is it going to be more effective than bringing in a couple of players better than we already have?

I might be wrong but I believe its needed for some kind of stadia certificate.

Anyway, its not something we should turn our nose up at. Iceland put a lot of their recent success down to the fact they invested in infrastructure. That being 30 all weather pitches, many of which were indoor. Being able to train on a full size pitch regardless of weather gives us an advantage.

[Jones28]

It still makes little sense for an American based Peruvian to purchase a Scottish football club and model the club he’s bought on the likes of St Johnstone or Killie and punch above our weight while not investing in the playing side of the club at all. What’s happening with the indoor stadia investment at HTC also?

The AGM will reveal these things I’m sure. Why make pessimism the starting point? He’s only been at the helm for 6 months.

[CapitalGreen]

Hibs have the highest priced season tickets in the league outside the OF and we are just to accept 5th place.

This is not true.

[ericd7]

The AGM will reveal these things I’m sure. Why make pessimism the starting point? He’s only been at the helm for 6 months.

A measured sane response? Not in my thread buster!

[Greencore]

This is not true.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp

[Jack Hackett]

Celtic and Rangers are out of his price range.

Aberdeen have wealthy backers.

Hearts are ****s.

Everyone else are diddy teams.

That’s leaves Hibs as the only opportunity to invest in a British side that could realistically qualify for Europe and attract a large enough support to be relatively self sufficient.

Get to the group stage of the Europa regularly and we would be more than relatively self sufficient. We've spent so long being careful about our finances, we seem to have lost the will to compete and are now happy to just survive... at least the board are. Whatever 'improvements' are planned, I sincerely hope they're not just cosmetic. Ron needs to step up to the plate, or what's the point of buying us?

[Danderhall Hibs]

This is not true.

It depends on how you spin it. We don’t have a cheaper option - no matter where you sit it’s the same price, that places us higher in that table than some would like.

[ancient hibee]

I can’t speak for the person you’ve quoted but my answers would be the following:-

For us to be more ambitious in the transfer market. Both the last managers have spoken of having to move players on before bringing other players in. Considering how average a squad we have just now that’s not great to hear

Some plans from him as to how we’re going to challenge the teams above us, it doesn’t sound like it’s going to be by out spending them so how are we going to do it?

What his bigger picture plans are, infrastructure plans etc.....not asking for detailed plans but it’d be nice to know what he’s thinking.

An AGM and accounts that I believe are months overdue. I’m not a numbers man myself however I think the lack of transparency is starting to be a bit of a concern.

I know you say it’s only 6 months but that’s quite a long time in football. Presumably he had some plans before finalising the deal as well so you’d assume plans have been getting made for 6-9 months now?
The accounts cover the period before Ron took over so are the last of the Farmer/Petrie time. Therefore nothing to worry about

[CapitalGreen]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp

Did you read the article or just copy and paste from Google search results? That article is based on the cheapest season tickets available at each club. Because Hibs have flat pricing they appear higher up the list, however other teams in the league have more expensive season tickets. It doesn’t compare apples with apples.

Season ticket beside the dugouts at Easter Road = £405
Season ticket beside the dugouts at Pittodrie = £434
Season ticket beside the dugouts at Tynie = £500

[Hibeesmad]

I might be wrong but I believe its needed for some kind of stadia certificate.

Anyway, its not something we should turn our nose up at. Iceland put a lot of their recent success down to the fact they invested in infrastructure. That being 30 all weather pitches, many of which were indoor. Being able to train on a full size pitch regardless of weather gives us an advantage.

Not against an indoor pitch if it has no effect on the transfer budget. Would personally just rather have good quality players to get us into European football rather than settle for 6th place so the players can train indoors when its raining.

[Brightside]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp

A decent hearts ST is much more than hibs.

[Brightside]

Not against an indoor pitch if it has no effect on the transfer budget. Would personally just rather have good quality players to get us into European football rather than settle for 6th place so the players can train indoors when its raining.

The indoor pitch is a project brave requirement.

[blackpoolhibs]

A decent hearts ST is much more than hibs.

There's no such thing.:confused:

[Brightside]

There's no such thing.:confused:

Well yes. Point. Well. Made. 😂

[Keith_M]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/ranked-the-cheapest-scottish-premiership-season-tickets-for-the-19-20-season-and-there-are-some-surprises-1-4937721/amp


Having the highest minimum price is not the same as having the highest price.

[The 90+2]

The AGM will reveal these things I’m sure. Why make pessimism the starting point? He’s only been at the helm for 6 months.

More than six months and that’s more than long enough to let us know wtf is going to happen.

It’s not realism also. Unless we can get an answer as to why he bought us speculation will continue. It’s not as if anything positive has happened since we got bought over.

[Wakeyhibee]

Have Aberdeen spent millions this season?

Hibs have the highest priced season tickets in the league outside the OF and we are just to accept 5th place.

Definitely not. I just dont see him spending extra millions a season just to come 3rd (which isn't guaranteed). I'm hoping he's looking to grow the club long term so it can attract extra money, that means getting the footballing side doing better with the budget it's got.

[hibeerealist]

I wasnt expecting anything. We were told we should be excited and they were looking forward to telling us more in the coming weeks and months. We have currently been told nothing more. We were then told january so we will wait and see what happens in the remaining 2 weeks. I dont see why people being curious and concerned is such a problem though when theres so many more questions than answers still.

Well put, I am sure there are many like minded Hibbys nodding in agreement as I am! :agree:

[The 90+2]

Definitely not. I just dont see him spending extra millions a season just to come 3rd (which isn't guaranteed). I'm hoping he's looking to grow the club long term so it can attract extra money, that means getting the footballing side doing better with the budget it's got.

Well it’s not really worked so far.

Again, what’s the point in him buying us just to have a ever steady possibly growing football club in Scotland? Seems a complete waste of time.

[Greencore]

Definitely not. I just dont see him spending extra millions a season just to come 3rd (which isn't guaranteed). I'm hoping he's looking to grow the club long term so it can attract extra money, that means getting the footballing side doing better with the budget it's got.

Why wouldn't he spend a few bob to get into Europe and have the fan base grow?

[hibeerealist]

I forgot to add, when in January does Ron intend putting his ideas/plans out there?

It is now half way through the month and no date for any announcement has been made, 14/15 days to go yes however if Ron is organised in what he is doing his diary will have a day/date in it by now I would bet.

[Nicho87]

It’s all about the community and match day experience for the fan.

[Lago]

Makes you wonder why he got involved in that case.

Certainly a bit of a puzzle to me.

[The 90+2]

Why wouldn't he spend a few bob to get into Europe and have the fan base grow?

Because his dream is for us to be the next St Johnstone with a bigger fan base 👍

[Billy Whizz]

The indoor pitch is a project brave requirement.

Are you sure, as no other team in Scotland own one

[bingo70]

Are you sure, as no other team in Scotland own one

Did Aberdeen not just open one?

[Rumble de Thump]

Because his dream is for us to be the next St Johnstone with a bigger fan base 👍

Have you got a link to that interview?

[Wakeyhibee]

Why wouldn't he spend a few bob to get into Europe and have the fan base grow?

That is possible and according to folk on here he did make cash available, maybe not the kind Aberdeem or Hearts get and in this case it didn't work for PH.

My point is he could throw 3-5m a season (if he's got it spare) at us and still come 5th, 6th or worse if the footballing side isn't performing, Jambos are leading the way at this right now.

I'm hoping that's what he's looking at. How to get the best set up so we can regularly challenge for 3rd.

[Scotty Leither]

And that's why we will always stay that way and never show any ambition to be anything more. Because the support just accept that's what we've been for so long, so why should any new owner be expected to do anything better?

We still don't really know what Ron Gordon wants from Hibs. Putting extra money into the squad is obviously not a priority at the moment, which is fair enough as it's his money and he can do as he pleases with it but it would be nice to know his plans for Hibs. He surely hasn't just bought us to sit about 6th-8th every season? What's the point.

Pretty much where I am...my late dad brought me up on tales of the Famous 5 and three league titles in 5 seasons (which should have been 4 out of 5 according to him), and thrilling football played by guys like Smith (his favourite ever player alongside Willie Hamilton) who would be superstars these days.

A club that pioneered European football, and toured the world.

More recent times we set the then record transfer fee between a Scottish and English club with the signing of Harper.

In short, a club that acted and thought "big" (before our maroon chums copyrighted the word).

The Farmer/Petrie era post-Duff and Gray, saw us move to financial stability, for sure, but it also heralded some mediocre performances and seasons on the park, and also a dampening down of expectations amongst the fans, with the constant backdrop of safety-first, risk-averse stewardship under Petrie.

It's not unreasonable to be filled with hope that when a new owner comes along, this will usher in a new era at the club where we finally start punching our weight over a sustained period of 5-6 seasons; and indeed maybe even challenge for the title now and again - as Ron Gordon mentioned himself when he took over - the last time we even came near was in 1973 and we knew what happened after Brownlie broke his leg and Edwards got suspended.

For there have been a nigh-on 50 year gap since our last challenge for the title for a capital city club is pretty poor in all honesty.

The fact that we appear to be muddling along again, especially in the area of player recruitment where we can't ever appear to bring in ONE player to augment the team without one going out the other way appears to be contrary to the grand plan as promised in the brochure when he first spoke publically.

We'll take over 3,000 bodies up to Dundee on Sunday - a turnout that would only be matched by the Ugly Sisters IMO, and is a remarkable turnout by Hibs fans considering the indifferent season we're (once again) experiencing.

Time for Gordon and Paton to give us a steer as to where they want to take the club and how they intend to get us there?

I for one am all ears, Ron...

[Wakeyhibee]

Well it’s not really worked so far.

Again, what’s the point in him buying us just to have a ever steady possibly growing football club in Scotland? Seems a complete waste of time.

It hasn't, whatever money he was said to have put in was given to PH. I cant see him ploughing good after bad until he sees the changes he wants to see.

I'm hoping we'll find out what that is when the AGM comes around.

[CMurdoch]

Did you read the article or just copy and paste from Google search results? That article is based on the cheapest season tickets available at each club. Because Hibs have flat pricing they appear higher up the list, however other teams in the league have more expensive season tickets. It doesn’t compare apples with apples.

Season ticket beside the dugouts at Easter Road = £405
Season ticket beside the dugouts at Pittodrie = £434
Season ticket beside the dugouts at Tynie = £500

Greencore wins the Hibs.net unable to read between the lines award for today.

[Ozyhibby]

Check the stats man.

We've been a mid table team for pretty much as long as I've been alive. We've reached 3rd spot only 4 times in 44 years. We probably average about 5th/6th.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be ambitious and that we shouldn't aim for better. But a sense of realism needs to occur.

So because we have under performed in the past (and I don’t think anybody sensible would say that we haven’t) we should expect to keep under performing? Our attendances are double Motherwell’s and Killie’s yet we should just accept them beating us to the Euro spots because we have always been rubbish?


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[Renfrew_Hibby]

Did Aberdeen not just open one?

Yes they did, part of a very impressive training complex for them.
Not before time to.

[Jones28]

More than six months and that’s more than long enough to let us know wtf is going to happen.

It’s not realism also. Unless we can get an answer as to why he bought us speculation will continue. It’s not as if anything positive has happened since we got bought over.

If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?

[B.H.F.C]

If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?

I think most people realise there’ll be some clarity when we have an AGM.

The issue is that the AGM doesn’t seem to be coming. By the time we have it, we’ll be the best part of a season in to his ownership at this rate.

[The 90+2]

If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?

When’s that again? Isn’t it usually in October or November?

[Joe6-2]

If I keep saying AGM will it sink in that that is when we will find out what happens?

When is the AGM?

[ancient hibee]

I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.

[Alfred E Newman]

When is the AGM?

Good question.

[Joe6-2]

Good question.

I thought that was a daft question, that surely I should know 🙄

[CMurdoch]

I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.

Yeah, I agree, once bitten twice shy.
Hecky has set us back big time with expensive average players signed on long contracts and I believe it will take another 18 months to fully clear up his mess. Fortunately we now have the right guy in as manager and he will gradually get things back on track.
Being in good shape financially means we should have 2 good new signings when this window is concluded. Hopefully Mathie plays a mean game of poker and holds his nerve better than a lot of folk on here.

[Alfred E Newman]

I thought that was a daft question, that surely I should know 🙄

There are a lot of us who would like to know. :I'm waiti:I'm waiti

[BILLYHIBS]

I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.
This !

I also believe GM that they are currently trying to bring people in

Might not be before Sunday but still a wee while before the window slams shut

[Jones28]

When’s that again? Isn’t it usually in October or November?

Yes, I thought it was later this month.

[Jones28]

When is the AGM?

I thought it was the end of this month.

Anyone able to shed light on that?

[007]

I think people may be missing the point here.Ron’s been in the door five minutes and has we believe cleared the mortgage and put in more cash.The main thing that has happened is first the football dept.was given a budget to bring in new players and made a complete horlicks of it.The manager appointed by the previous board was not up to the job and was sacked by the new board.Given that the football people have wasted a good financial position it is highly unlikely that Ron is going,in the short term,to say”well you did so badly last time I’m going to give you a good bit more dosh to spend”.I Suspect his thinking is of the “you messed it up,you sort it “kind and that way he’ll see what they’re made of.

Are you suggesting we might have been lied to about this?

[hibeerealist]

Pretty much where I am...my late dad brought me up on tales of the Famous 5 and three league titles in 5 seasons (which should have been 4 out of 5 according to him), and thrilling football played by guys like Smith (his favourite ever player alongside Willie Hamilton) who would be superstars these days.

A club that pioneered European football, and toured the world.

More recent times we set the then record transfer fee between a Scottish and English club with the signing of Harper.

In short, a club that acted and thought "big" (before our maroon chums copyrighted the word).

The Farmer/Petrie era post-Duff and Gray, saw us move to financial stability, for sure, but it also heralded some mediocre performances and seasons on the park, and also a dampening down of expectations amongst the fans, with the constant backdrop of safety-first, risk-averse stewardship under Petrie.

It's not unreasonable to be filled with hope that when a new owner comes along, this will usher in a new era at the club where we finally start punching our weight over a sustained period of 5-6 seasons; and indeed maybe even challenge for the title now and again - as Ron Gordon mentioned himself when he took over - the last time we even came near was in 1973 and we knew what happened after Brownlie broke his leg and Edwards got suspended.

For there have been a nigh-on 50 year gap since our last challenge for the title for a capital city club is pretty poor in all honesty.

The fact that we appear to be muddling along again, especially in the area of player recruitment where we can't ever appear to bring in ONE player to augment the team without one going out the other way appears to be contrary to the grand plan as promised in the brochure when he first spoke publically.

We'll take over 3,000 bodies up to Dundee on Sunday - a turnout that would only be matched by the Ugly Sisters IMO, and is a remarkable turnout by Hibs fans considering the indifferent season we're (once again) experiencing.

Time for Gordon and Paton to give us a steer as to where they want to take the club and how they intend to get us there?

I for one am all ears, Ron...


As am I and many others Scotty. :aok:

[Baldy Foghorn]

I thought it was the end of this month.

Anyone able to shed light on that?

No date has been given as yet

[ancient hibee]

Are you suggesting we might have been lied to about this?

Of course not.

[superfurryhibby]

Some utter garbage on this thread tonight. I particularly wonder what the support do to deserve been responsible for our traditional mid table.mediocrity and what not accepting this actually means?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Some utter garbage on this thread tonight. I particularly wonder what the support do to deserve been responsible for our traditional mid table.mediocrity and what not accepting this actually means?

In my time of following Hibs, I don't think the fans ambitions have been met (SC Cup win apart)

[Andy74]

More than six months and that’s more than long enough to let us know wtf is going to happen.

It’s not realism also. Unless we can get an answer as to why he bought us speculation will continue. It’s not as if anything positive has happened since we got bought over.

Being debt free is fairly positive.

[BILLYHIBS]

Pretty much where I am...my late dad brought me up on tales of the Famous 5 and three league titles in 5 seasons (which should have been 4 out of 5 according to him), and thrilling football played by guys like Smith (his favourite ever player alongside Willie Hamilton) who would be superstars these days.

A club that pioneered European football, and toured the world.

More recent times we set the then record transfer fee between a Scottish and English club with the signing of Harper.

In short, a club that acted and thought "big" (before our maroon chums copyrighted the word).

The Farmer/Petrie era post-Duff and Gray, saw us move to financial stability, for sure, but it also heralded some mediocre performances and seasons on the park, and also a dampening down of expectations amongst the fans, with the constant backdrop of safety-first, risk-averse stewardship under Petrie.

It's not unreasonable to be filled with hope that when a new owner comes along, this will usher in a new era at the club where we finally start punching our weight over a sustained period of 5-6 seasons; and indeed maybe even challenge for the title now and again - as Ron Gordon mentioned himself when he took over - the last time we even came near was in 1973 and we knew what happened after Brownlie broke his leg and Edwards got suspended.

For there have been a nigh-on 50 year gap since our last challenge for the title for a capital city club is pretty poor in all honesty.

The fact that we appear to be muddling along again, especially in the area of player recruitment where we can't ever appear to bring in ONE player to augment the team without one going out the other way appears to be contrary to the grand plan as promised in the brochure when he first spoke publically.

We'll take over 3,000 bodies up to Dundee on Sunday - a turnout that would only be matched by the Ugly Sisters IMO, and is a remarkable turnout by Hibs fans considering the indifferent season we're (once again) experiencing.

Time for Gordon and Paton to give us a steer as to where they want to take the club and how they intend to get us there?

I for one am all ears, Ron...

:top marks

[007]

Of course not.

Ok. Adding in "we believe" made it sound like you were.

[The 90+2]

Being debt free is fairly positive.

I’m sure Sir Tom would have had us debt free before he left always regardless. Debt free is amazing but is that the ambition we have? The owner has? It makes little sense.

[Real Emerald]

I’m sure Sir Tom would have had us debt free before he left always regardless. Debt free is amazing but is that the ambition we have? The owner has? It makes little sense.

Agree, why buy a Scottish football club to be debt free and remain mid table as your ambition. You would expect at the very least an initial burst of positive signings to get the punters juices going, and a chest banging statement of intent. Otherwise, what’s the point 😳

[CMurdoch]

Agree, why buy a Scottish football club to be debt free and remain mid table as your ambition. You would expect at the very least an initial burst of positive signings to get the punters juices going, and a chest banging statement of intent. Otherwise, what’s the point 😳

Managing expectation

[CMurdoch]

I’m sure Sir Tom would have had us debt free before he left always regardless. Debt free is amazing but is that the ambition we have? The owner has? It makes little sense.

Debt free means you can spend money on the team and facilities rather than on paying the debt. Simples.
That means £500k more for Hibs to spend per season. I suspect that will kick in this window.

[Real Emerald]

Managing expectation

Expecting nothing then? Buy a club and expect nothing but managing expectations, how exciting!!

[CMurdoch]

Expecting nothing then? Buy a club and expect nothing but managing expectations, how exciting!!

2 weeks until the transfer window closes then the AGM in February.
At that point you should have the information you need to make an informed comment.
Being negative without that is just raving.

[Real Emerald]

2 weeks until the transfer window closes then the AGM in February.
At that point you should have the information you need to make an informed comment.
Being negative without that is just raving.

Yes I hope it all pans out well, who knows it may be the best transfer window ever, fingers crossed 🤞

[CMurdoch]

Yes I hope it all pans out well, who knows it may be the best transfer window ever, fingers crossed 🤞

All we can do is hope. Wish we were in the Know but we're no :wink:.
A good defensive mid, a free scoring striker with a Bogdan chaser.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Having the highest minimum price is not the same as having the highest price.

So are you saying we’ve got the most expensive cheap seats?

[Jones28]

So are you saying we’ve got the most expensive cheap seats?

That’s how 90+2 would see it.

[jacomo]

This is from July when he took over from STF... worth reminding ourselves because it’s still the most comprehensive plan we have.

I know it’s the Daily Record but it’s mostly direct quotes from Ron. His investment included £1m or so cash for club to invest as it saw fit, although it was reported that the transfer budget didn’t change.


Ron Gordon unveils his Hibs masterplan and pinpoints the two key areas that need improving

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New Hibs owner Ron Gordon moved from Peru to America and turned $200 into $75million.

The 64-year-old entrepreneur knows a good investment when he sees one and he says that’s why he put his cash in the Premiership side.

But Gordon admits he looked at buying other clubs in Scotland, England, Spain and the United States.

He is proud of his Scottish family connections, and said: “I have been looking for a football opportunity for about three years.

“I really wanted to get into the game, I have loved football since I was a child.

“I looked at clubs in four countries – Scotland, England, Spain and the US. I made expressions of interest in one club in England, not in the Premier League.

“At the end of the day, once the Hibs opportunity became live, that was it.

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“My family is originally from Scotland, a place called Tomintoul in the Highlands.

“I took my family seven years ago on a roots trip so we went to Aberdeen, we went to Huntly Castle where my ancestors are buried.

“Obviously I wouldn’t make an investment in a club like this for that reason but it makes an investment in Scotland that much more special.

“I looked at several clubs but when I looked at Hibs and reached out to Rod Petrie it became clear to me that this was a very special club. Hibs have a lot of positive things – an incredible fan base as well as great infrastructure and great leadership.”

Gordon has always though big and that’s the secret to his fortune.

He started his own media company ZGS Communications for just $200 and sold it to Comcast/NBC Universal in 2017, banking a cool $75m (£60m).

Gordon said: “I was born in Peru. My mother married an American and that’s how I came to leave Peru and became a US citizen when I moved there at 15. I then went to Australia because my stepfather was in the foreign service so I finished my schooling there. I went back to the US and Syracuse University and when I was 29 I started a TV production company with $200 dollars in my pocket.

Ron Gordon is joined by Sir Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie and Leeann Dempster after his takeover of Easter Road club(Image: Twitter)
“The company served the Spanish-speaking community because I spoke Spanish fluently having been born in Peru.

“As they say, in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king so I was the one-eyed man.

“I grew my company organically for 35 years and then I sold it to NBC Universal for way beyond whatever I would have expected.

“That’s what business is about but I was very blessed as a businessman and the people I worked with and ultimately the result.

“I sold the company for significantly more than $200 dollars.

“Money is not always the answer, obviously you need resources. But I think creative thinking and looking at things in a different way and developing ideas and teams that can really flourish is what made my company successful.”

Now Gordon is determined to build Hibs a indoor facility that will be the envy of most clubs in Britain as part of a two-part plan for the club’s success.

He said: “I think I would look to invest in an organisation that can produce results consistently.

“We should not make any bets on any one player or something like that.

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“We need to build an infrastructure that consistently delivers results year in and year out and that we are competing.

“I would look at two pillars that would be great investments for the club.

“An indoor facility so that we can attract the best players and the best youth players and provide the community with a great facility in which to enjoy football.

“Secondly the academy. We would want the academy to be the best in Scotland.

“I don’t know what that would take and those are the two pillars that have long-term repercussions and impact for the club.

“I won’t be switching and living over in Scotland full-time but I will be here a lot.

“I want to be as involved as I can be.

“With an investment like this it is not insignificant and it is not something that you do by remote control.

“Sport is a passion point whereby people live and breathe it and enjoy it every day.

“This is a chance for us to build and do something special.”

Gordon visited Easter Road just once before sealing his deal – the night in March when a Hibs fan attacked Rangers defender James Tavernier.

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He insists the shameful incident didn’t make him think twice about investing in the club.

Having met with manager Paul Heckingbottom he is keen to start attending more matches, starting with the League Cup opener with Arbroath a week on Saturday.

Gordon said: “I’ve been to one Hibs game and of all the things that I read, the one thing, the only thing everybody got right was that it was the Rangers game.

“I was a little disappointed about that incident but I loved the way the club handled it.

“It was right on and forceful.

“Personally I don’t think there’s room for anything like that in football.

“I met the Hibs manager two or three months ago.

“We had a very nice chat and he seems to be doing a great job.

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“I’m very encouraged to give him the support he needs to build a team that can succeed.

“I’m going to the League Cup game against Arbroath.”

Gordon also moved to reassure the Hibs faithful that he only wants what’s best for the club.

He insists the fans should be excited and strap themselves in for the ride.

When asked about the sceptics, Gordon said: “I would be asking the same question.

“I don’t think you can make everybody happy.

“I’m sure it’s the case that some would be wary but we have to do our job and prove that we’re going to do positive things for the club.

“I’m going to give it 1000 per cent. I’m very excited about this and there’s a tremendous amount of opportunity for us to do some wonderful things.

“If we don’t, it’s not going to be for lack of trying.

“We’re committed to the club and the more I learned about Hibs, I loved everything about it.

“The Hibs fans should be excited. We are going to grow the club in a way that’s positive for the club itself and Edinburgh.

“This is a phenomenal club which is in a great position to do some wonderful things.”

[SquashedFrogg]

Expecting nothing then? Buy a club and expect nothing but managing expectations, how exciting!!

Based on what he said when he took over. What should he have already done in his very short time as owner?

[Forza Fred]

2 weeks until the transfer window closes then the AGM in February.
At that point you should have the information you need to make an informed comment.
Being negative without that is just raving.

Agree with most of this.

Ron Gordon has finalised a strategic review of the club, but I can’t see him announcing any changes until the transfer window has closed.

I don’t see a sudden influx of funds coming by any means, and I don’t think there is any magic wand that can be waved that improves us financially.

I don’t think it is his business style to throw money about for short term, probably unsustainable gain..

My expectations are that we will continue to operate with the 5th biggest budget in Scottish football, but that there will be flowery words about developing our own players.

Hope I’m wrong, and there is much for us to get excited about, but I am not confident.

[SquashedFrogg]

Agree with most of this.

Ron Gordon has finalised a strategic review of the club, but I can’t see him announcing any changes until the transfer window has closed.

I don’t see a sudden influx of funds coming by any means, and I don’t think there is any magic wand that can be waved that improves us financially.

I don’t think it is his business style to throw money about for short term, probably unsustainable gain..

My expectations are that we will continue to operate with the 5th biggest budget in Scottish football, but that there will be flowery words about developing our own players.

Hope I’m wrong, and there is much for us to get excited about, but I am not confident.

To be honest mate, I'm really surprised some were expecting a huge change almost over night.

This will be a slow and steady approach I think. It has to be sustainable or it's pointless.

Funnily enough I'd actually be more worried if he'd just came in an started throwing cash about left, right and centre.

Seems we're living in a world where everyone seems to want everything yesterday. Patience is a dying art.

I'm relaxed about this and confident we're in good hands.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Seems we're living in a world where everyone seems to want everything yesterday. Patience is a dying art.

Aye, right enough. How long ago was Petrie's 5 year plan?

[Keith_M]

So are you saying we’ve got the most expensive cheap seats?


And the cheapest expensive seats, yes.


Where are we in a league table of average seat cost?

[Hibbyradge]

It still makes little sense for an American based Peruvian to purchase a Scottish football club and model the club he’s bought on the likes of St Johnstone or Killie and punch above our weight while not investing in the playing side of the club at all. What’s happening with the indoor stadia investment at HTC also?

His reasons for buying the club were explained when it happened.

[SquashedFrogg]

Aye, right enough. How long ago was Petrie's 5 year plan?

I'm not talking about Petrie? He's no longer at the club.

[FilipinoHibs]

To be honest mate, I'm really surprised some were expecting a huge change almost over night.

This will be a slow and steady approach I think. It has to be sustainable or it's pointless.

Funnily enough I'd actually be more worried if he'd just came in an started throwing cash about left, right and centre.

Seems we're living in a world where everyone seems to want everything yesterday. Patience is a dying art.

I'm relaxed about this and confident we're in good hands.

Yes my stepson wants a sports car for graduating. I said you need to build a career and eventually you might be able to waste your own money on one.